Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Hi I haven't posted much but have been lurking. I need help I found out Wednesday , that they want to do a quadruple bypass on me. I am only 58 and I have very blocked arteries. 95%, 90%, I don't remember the others. I don't want to do the surgery. I want to do things like the dean ornish heart blockage reversal diet. If you know of any others I would appreciate it. I also want vitamins and minerals you might know of. I also would like any info as how to get through the surgery in the best shape I can . So here too vitamins etc. Please help. I am a crying mess about now. They want to do surgery on the 12th. Sent with peace and love Laughingbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Begin with the Dean Ornish diet and be sure to add lots of anti oxidents to your daily regimin. Ornish mentions some vitamins and minerals but make sure the following is included. The low HDL cholesterol that has blocked the arteries is oxidized cholesterol. To keep the HDL-LDL ratio up you need anti oxidents with all meals. Here's the basic protocol. ALA Alph lipoic acid. The mother of all antioxidents because it is not only anti oxident on it's own but recyles the effect from your Vitamins E and C. and is both fat soluble and water soluble so it works both side of the cell walls. Co Enzyme Q -10 [120mg.] This is the most expesnsive of the supplememts but worth it. .. Next a good Vitamin E. [400 ius of gamma and alpha]. Next 3000. mg of non acidic vitamin C named Calcium Ascorbate. AND while you take your Vitamin C also take 3000 mg. of MSM [Methyl Sulfonyl Methane] for it's anti inflammatory effect. And with the Vitamin E, take 1 Tablespoonful of flax oil for your omega 3 EFA. So before breakfast and before dinner: = 100mg ALA. 120mg. CoQ10. 3 gr. Calcium Ascorbate. 3 gr. MSM. 400iu. Vit E. I Tbsp. flax oil. and one baby asprin once a day to hold back any clotting effects in the blood. - This protocol added to your diet will induce the body to produce HDL instead of LDL and will prevent cholesterol build up. However, the present blockages in the vessels are a result of calcium deposits clinging to the LDL cholesterol that has been deposited over the years and may be too far gome to remove by diet alone. Listenm carefully to you aalopath and perhaps get a second opinion from a naturopath. rusty - " Laughing Bear " <laughingbear Sunday, February 02, 2003 6:59 PM Re: Bypass surgery > Hi I haven't posted much but have been lurking. I need help I found out Wednesday , that > they want to do a quadruple bypass on me. I am only 58 and I have very blocked arteries. > 95%, 90%, I don't remember the others. I don't want to do the surgery. I want to do > things like the dean ornish heart blockage reversal diet. If you know of any others I > would appreciate it. I also want vitamins and minerals you might know of. I also would > like any info as how to get through the surgery in the best shape I can . So here too > vitamins etc. > Please help. I am a crying mess about now. They want to do surgery on the 12th. > Sent with peace and love > Laughingbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Call 1-800-532-3699 (ACAM) American College of Advancement in Medicine, for a referral for a 2nd opinion. These physicians specialize in your problem. Chelation may be the answer. I'm 79, had chelation, and walk up 44 flights of stairs every other day for exercise - with no symptoms. Good luck to you! Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM ++++ Don't miss out - get your free sample copy of The Holistic Dental Digest PLUS - in its 24th year of helping people = information you're not likely to get elsewhere -- by replying to jmittelman with your PO Box or street address. - " Laughing Bear " <laughingbear Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:59 PM Re: Bypass surgery > Hi I haven't posted much but have been lurking. I need help I found out Wednesday , that > they want to do a quadruple bypass on me. I am only 58 and I have very blocked arteries. > 95%, 90%, I don't remember the others. I don't want to do the surgery. I want to do > things like the dean ornish heart blockage reversal diet. If you know of any others I > would appreciate it. I also want vitamins and minerals you might know of. I also would > like any info as how to get through the surgery in the best shape I can . So here too > vitamins etc. > Please help. I am a crying mess about now. They want to do surgery on the 12th. > Sent with peace and love > Laughingbear > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health and well being. > > list or archives: Gettingwell > > ........ Gettingwell- > post............. Gettingwell > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest > individual emails Gettingwell-normal > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner > ...... Gettingwell- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Rusty thanks much for all the good information. I have started the diet change and am ready to head for the health food store with my money in hand. Jerry thanks for the phone number will call it this afternoon. Thanks to both of you. If you think of anything else please pass it along. Sent with peace and love Laughingbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Dear Laughing on the outside crying on the inside Bear, Do not dispair... there are alot of things that you can do!! here's one site.. http://www.dr-rath-research.org/home/index.php " http://www.healthfree.com/christopher/cayenne.htm " http://www.heartsupport.com/ " http://www.gordonresearch.com/Future_of_Chelation_Nov02.html " http://www.health-heart.org/acceuil.htm " http://westonaprice.org/vitamins/supplements.html " http://www.doctoryourself.com/ " http://www.watercure2.com/ " http://www.oralchelation.com/ .. I have used this formula myself! " http://www.healthfree.com/health/healing/phguide.htm I had 2 stents almost three years ago and asked the dr. about chelation and he said it didn't work of course he had to pay for the new open heart surgery wing at the hospital! I had minor symptoms with exertion in the stress test, but they involved the whole family scareing the the daylights out of them. Terms like " the widowmaker " when referring to veins that have some plaque. I should have walked out like I wanted to do and checked out " chelation " like I wanted to do! If its an emergency of course thats a different matter! If I had it to do over again I would have started IV chelation and then continued with oral chelation.... Hope this helped... Charles >Laughing Bear <laughingbear Bypass surgery >Hi I haven't posted much but have been lurking. I need help I found out >Wednesday , that >they want to do a quadruple bypass on me. I am only 58 and I have very >blocked arteries. >95%, 90%, I don't remember the others. I don't want to do the surgery. I >want to do >things like the dean ornish heart blockage reversal diet. If you know of >any others I >would appreciate it. I also want vitamins and minerals you might know of. >I also would >like any info as how to get through the surgery in the best shape I can . >So here too >vitamins etc. >Please help. I am a crying mess about now. They want to do surgery on the >12th. >Sent with peace and love >Laughingbear > > _______________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Here's my opinion Get Armour thyroid and have other hormones checked, like DHEA. Find a smart ACAM doc or www.armourthyroid.com Use high quality fish oil and don't skimp on good fats! www.westonaprice.org Gracia > Hi I haven't posted much but have been lurking. I need help I found out Wednesday , that > they want to do a quadruple bypass on me. I am only 58 and I have very blocked arteries. > 95%, 90%, I don't remember the others. I don't want to do the surgery. I want to do > things like the dean ornish heart blockage reversal diet. If you know of any others I > would appreciate it. I also want vitamins and minerals you might know of. I also would > like any info as how to get through the surgery in the best shape I can . So here too > vitamins etc. > Please help. I am a crying mess about now. They want to do surgery on the 12th. > Sent with peace and love > Laughingbear > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health and well being. > > list or archives: Gettingwell > > ........ Gettingwell- > post............. Gettingwell > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest > individual emails Gettingwell-normal > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner > ...... Gettingwell- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Charles thank you so much for all the sites. You must have put lots of effort into this for me. So double thanks to you. I am just at the first two and i like very much what I am reading. Sent with peace and love Laughingbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 >Charles thank you so much for all the sites. You must have put lots of >effort into this >for me. So double thanks to you. I am just at the first two and i like very >much what I >am reading. >Sent with peace and love >Laughingbear > Dear Laughingbear, You are more than welcome. I wish that I was connected to the web when I needed to make critical decisions. There is a wealth of information available. Regardless of your decision you are more informed now than you were this morning :<) One of the first things I did after I realized that I had CVD was to join a raw food group live-food originally it was " RAF " raw animal foods and since have morphed into " RVAF " raw animal and vegetable foods the group split and now theres another group at paleodiet . I ate nearly 100% raw for 9 months, mostly fish,beef,lamb, raw milk, kefir Kefir_making/ (fermented goats milk) and alot of fatty vegetables as well as fresh juced vegetables, mostly green vegs. Now nearly three yrs later I am still nearly 75% raw and sometimes more. The other 25% vegs are lightly steamed and meats are very rare. I don't think this is necessary only I prefer to eat this way. I also have added digestive enzymes on a daily basis even though I eat mostly raw. I did this after I read the book The Enzyme cure By Dr. Lita Lee shes not a physician but a Phd. I had some private emails and phone conversations with her before she got her web site up and running a couple years ago and I found her to be very friendly, informative and her site is at http://www.litalee.com . Another couple sites of interest may be http://www.fimdefelice.org/libbooks.html ..Th carnitine defence by Dr. Stephen Defelice as well as http://www.metabolictyping.com/index2.html I prefer this over Dean Ornish.. william wolcott really adresses who you are and what makes up you. Dr. Mercola jm has recently recommended the metabolic typing diet recently, I have been eating right for my type for over a couple yrs even before reading the book. Anytime I go to any sites that I like I always check out their links list and usually find other sites of interest. best wishes to you Charles > _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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