Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 Hello everyone, Are any of you vegetarian? Those that are, do you use meat substitutes? What are your thoughts on them? I'm a bit dubious about them - is tofu okay to eat? Is it genetically modified? What about quorn? Can you eat uncooked tofu? Someone did try to tell me once that soya products were actually very bad for you, because they don't contain the essential amino acids that meat contains. I can imagine that this is the case, but surely you could make this up elsewhere in your diet? I hope this is relevant for the list - I'm sure a lot of us realise how much what we eat affects our health. Thanks Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2004 Report Share Posted August 3, 2004 you might want to read soy is a ploy www.westonaprice.org Peggy - " ian " <hobart Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:06 AM Tofu > Hello everyone, > > Are any of you vegetarian? Those that are, do you use meat > substitutes? What are your thoughts on them? I'm a bit dubious > about them - is tofu okay to eat? Is it genetically modified? What > about quorn? Can you eat uncooked tofu? > > Someone did try to tell me once that soya products were actually very > bad for you, because they don't contain the essential amino acids > that meat contains. I can imagine that this is the case, but surely > you could make this up elsewhere in your diet? > > I hope this is relevant for the list - I'm sure a lot of us realise > how much what we eat affects our health. > > Thanks > Ian > > > > > > ********************************************* > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: > http://www./members_add > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > http://www./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 , " Peggy Sue " <peggysue6@c...> wrote: > you might want to read soy is a ploy > www.westonaprice.org > > Peggy Thanks Peggy, I couldn't find that particular article, but I found a few other things relating to soy. I'm of very mixed opinions about this. I know tofu is very artificial, but then so are most animal products, once you look at the amount of rubbish that has been pumped into them (unless you're buying free-range organic). I know that this isn't the place for a debate about the rights, or wrongs, of vegetarianism, so I'll stay away from that but I wish there was some sort of consensus on this - on what is okay and what isn't.. there isn't even a consensus in 'alternative' circles. The studies that suggest soy causes cancer - how much of it would you have to eat? Is it any worse, for example, than the saturated fat found in so many other products? And how many types of food contain soy? I looked for this information of Westonaprice but couldn't find it. It might be that I didn't look in the right places, though! I'd be interested in knowing what the rest of you think, on or off list. Thanks for the link, Peggy. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Peggy, These are folks that recommend you drink milk... What does that say? Peggy Sue [peggysue6]Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Tofuyou might want to read soy is a ploywww.westonaprice.orgPeggy-"ian" <hobartTuesday, August 03, 2004 3:06 AM Tofu> Hello everyone,>> Are any of you vegetarian? Those that are, do you use meat> substitutes? What are your thoughts on them? I'm a bit dubious> about them - is tofu okay to eat? Is it genetically modified? What> about quorn? Can you eat uncooked tofu?>> Someone did try to tell me once that soya products were actually very> bad for you, because they don't contain the essential amino acids> that meat contains. I can imagine that this is the case, but surely> you could make this up elsewhere in your diet?>> I hope this is relevant for the list - I'm sure a lot of us realise> how much what we eat affects our health.>> Thanks> Ian>>>>>> *********************************************> WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers->> HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventativeand Curative measure to take for many ailments at:> http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm> __________>> -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this addressin an email to them:> http://www./members_add>> _________> To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to:>> http://www./links>> ___________> > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______> Shortcut URL to this page:> http://www.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Sean wrote: Peggy, These are folks that recommend you drink milk... What does that say? They only recommend WHOLE, RAW, LIVE milk, which is a totally different substance from the adulterated cr*p we find in the store. And they acknowledge that people of different ethnic background have a different relationship to milk. If you are Asian, or native American, just don't. I have not been able to drink milk for years. Recently we have had a a chance to get fresh milk, from a grass-fed cow. It is simply a different substance. Most of it gets turned into yoghurt, but I actually drank a glass one day, and experienced NO discomfort, no gassiness, bloating etc whatsoever. Anti milk people, like Robert Cohen, get carried away into dogmatism. In cultures where soy is traditionally used, it is used mainly fermented, in products like tempeh, miso, and soy sauce. Look for the words: "naturally brewed" on soy sauce. Tofu is very cooling in energy, and is traditionally combined with warming spices like pepper, ginger and garlic. It is also used in small quantities, as part of a soup, or a stirfry for instance. Raw soy slows down the"'inner fire", and was popular for that reason among monks. In Western speak we say soy tends to depress the thyroid gland. In typical Western fashion we have taken it out of context, and decided that if a little is good, a lot must be better. In my modest opinion, tofu cheesecake for example is an insult to two great foods. Your instincts are sound Ian! Actualy, Tofu is not very processed. It precipitates easily out of soy milk. However, we cannot say the same about the gazillion so-called health foods, which are soy based and pretend to be meat. More about your questions in another post. I can feel a lecture coming on, grin. Ien in the Kootenays***********************************"What is the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on?"~Thoreau Saving the Rainforest, a cup of tea at the timehttp://wildhealing.net*********************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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