Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dear Ieneke, You are too kind. We live in this physical world. It is filled with spiritual secrets. Inasmuch as we have incarnated into this body, we must employ it to discover the secrets. Many seek to believe it is an illusion. Yet, in truth, it is not. The illusion lies within the consciousness of man. He looks at this world unable to connect himself with who he is and thus sees this world as cut off from its spiritual underpinnings. May I quote from one of my poems, "Only he who can be free in prison can see the Face of God" Those who seek to negate this world are as trapped within it as those who believe it is all there is. The wise accept what life brings to them and seek only to find truth within the mundane. Why, because life is a mirror, perfectly reflecting to us what occurs within. Here, man learns the art of making every hut a castle and every castle the temple within, Much Love in Spirit, Stephen Ieneke van Houten [ien]Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What therapy is best? In an illusion, the only effective therapy is belief and imagination.James Very nice James, from a cosmic point of view. I certainly agree with you that there in NO chance of healing without the agreement of the mind and spirit. In fact, I came up with the "timing theory of healing". At some point, for whatever reason, a person is ready to be healed. Whatever remedy or system or healing art is used at that time will do the trick and get the credit. The healee may then start going around telling people that remedy A, B, and C, which he tried while he was not ready, are totally worthless. But remedy G, wow, what a winner! I believe this accounts for much. As for the "everything is illusion" line, that is all very nice for fully realized masters, but most of us are still pretty Earth bound. I know I am. I am "doing threedee". I am here to "Do Earth." She is gorgeous, I love Her! If you have reached the walking on water stage already, more power to you, but I still need to know where the crossing rocks are. "Every creature is a word of God"~Meister Eckhardt********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 You can add my book to those already mentioned who support this position. www.time-alterations.org Regards, ~August N. Alonzo~ www.time-alterations.org info " Although time appears to be a series of passing moments, in actuality, time is a fixed dimension. By utilizing Time Alterations techniques, it is possible to go back into time -- as it exists in our sub-conscious -- and alter a situation in the past, in order to bring about a change in our current circumstance. " ~AA~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Dear Stephen, I just want to say that I love reading your words, you are so spot on. The secret is, I think, Love yourself and others will do likewise. Realise that the universe loves us all and we are all part of the universe. WOW. Thats a whole lot of LOVE coming our way for us to just sit back and soak it up. Peace, Love, Health and Harmony to you and yours, from an Australian Angel in training, Daisy. - DrSABrown Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:18 PM RE: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What therapy is best? Dear Ieneke, You are too kind. We live in this physical world. It is filled with spiritual secrets. Inasmuch as we have incarnated into this body, we must employ it to discover the secrets. Many seek to believe it is an illusion. Yet, in truth, it is not. The illusion lies within the consciousness of man. He looks at this world unable to connect himself with who he is and thus sees this world as cut off from its spiritual underpinnings. May I quote from one of my poems, "Only he who can be free in prison can see the Face of God" Those who seek to negate this world are as trapped within it as those who believe it is all there is. The wise accept what life brings to them and seek only to find truth within the mundane. Why, because life is a mirror, perfectly reflecting to us what occurs within. Here, man learns the art of making every hut a castle and every castle the temple within, Much Love in Spirit, Stephen Ieneke van Houten [ien]Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What therapy is best? In an illusion, the only effective therapy is belief and imagination.James Very nice James, from a cosmic point of view. I certainly agree with you that there in NO chance of healing without the agreement of the mind and spirit. In fact, I came up with the "timing theory of healing". At some point, for whatever reason, a person is ready to be healed. Whatever remedy or system or healing art is used at that time will do the trick and get the credit. The healee may then start going around telling people that remedy A, B, and C, which he tried while he was not ready, are totally worthless. But remedy G, wow, what a winner! I believe this accounts for much. As for the "everything is illusion" line, that is all very nice for fully realized masters, but most of us are still pretty Earth bound. I know I am. I am "doing threedee". I am here to "Do Earth." She is gorgeous, I love Her! If you have reached the walking on water stage already, more power to you, but I still need to know where the crossing rocks are. "Every creature is a word of God"~Meister Eckhardt********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Dear Daisy, It is said that we love most that which awakens in our heart that which we already know. It is my privilege to be the vehicle for words that awaken love within your heart. I am certain that you as well awaken love within the hearts of those whom you meet. Much Love in Spirit, Stephen Chez [chook17]Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What therapy is best? Dear Stephen, I just want to say that I love reading your words, you are so spot on. The secret is, I think, Love yourself and others will do likewise. Realise that the universe loves us all and we are all part of the universe. WOW. Thats a whole lot of LOVE coming our way for us to just sit back and soak it up. Peace, Love, Health and Harmony to you and yours, from an Australian Angel in training, Daisy. - DrSABrown Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:18 PM RE: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What therapy is best? Dear Ieneke, You are too kind. We live in this physical world. It is filled with spiritual secrets. Inasmuch as we have incarnated into this body, we must employ it to discover the secrets. Many seek to believe it is an illusion. Yet, in truth, it is not. The illusion lies within the consciousness of man. He looks at this world unable to connect himself with who he is and thus sees this world as cut off from its spiritual underpinnings. May I quote from one of my poems, "Only he who can be free in prison can see the Face of God" Those who seek to negate this world are as trapped within it as those who believe it is all there is. The wise accept what life brings to them and seek only to find truth within the mundane. Why, because life is a mirror, perfectly reflecting to us what occurs within. Here, man learns the art of making every hut a castle and every castle the temple within, Much Love in Spirit, Stephen Ieneke van Houten [ien]Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What therapy is best? In an illusion, the only effective therapy is belief and imagination.James Very nice James, from a cosmic point of view. I certainly agree with you that there in NO chance of healing without the agreement of the mind and spirit. In fact, I came up with the "timing theory of healing". At some point, for whatever reason, a person is ready to be healed. Whatever remedy or system or healing art is used at that time will do the trick and get the credit. The healee may then start going around telling people that remedy A, B, and C, which he tried while he was not ready, are totally worthless. But remedy G, wow, what a winner! I believe this accounts for much. As for the "everything is illusion" line, that is all very nice for fully realized masters, but most of us are still pretty Earth bound. I know I am. I am "doing threedee". I am here to "Do Earth." She is gorgeous, I love Her! If you have reached the walking on water stage already, more power to you, but I still need to know where the crossing rocks are. "Every creature is a word of God"~Meister Eckhardt********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Stephen wrote; <Those who seek to negate this world are as trapped within it as those who believe it is all there is. > Exactly. very elegantly put. Ien in the Kootenays*********************************************************"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given you"~Gandalfhttp://businesshelpingpeople.comSee my face, browse my inspiring library!******************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Well thank you. He bows his head in gratitude. Ieneke van Houten [ien]Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: Re: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What therapy is best? Stephen wrote; <Those who seek to negate this world are as trapped within it as those who believe it is all there is. > Exactly. very elegantly put. Ien in the Kootenays*********************************************************"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given you"~Gandalfhttp://businesshelpingpeople.comSee my face, browse my inspiring library!******************************************************** ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 And this response by Dr Brown my friends is the very reason that Christ was able to create fish and bread for the masses from very little.The people gathered around him saw the quality of love and compassion in Christ and of which he preached.They gave of their own abundance.They were the source of the extra food.It did not appear magically out of the air. From one who was there. Old pond,new frog;old frog new pond.SPLASH! , " DrSABrown " <DrSABrown@a...> wrote: > Dear Daisy, > > It is said that we love most that which awakens in our heart that which we > already know. It is my privilege to be the vehicle for words that awaken > love within your heart. I am certain that you as well awaken love within the > hearts of those whom you meet. > > > Much Love in Spirit, > > > Stephen > > > > Chez [chook17@o...] > Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:01 PM > > Re: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? What > therapy is best? > > > Dear Stephen, > I just want to say that I love reading your words, you are so > spot on. The secret is, I think, Love yourself and others will do likewise. > Realise that the universe loves us all and we are all part of the universe. > WOW. Thats a whole lot of LOVE coming our way for us to just sit back and > soak it up. > Peace, Love, Health and Harmony to you and yours, > from an Australian Angel in training, > Daisy. > - > DrSABrown > > Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:18 PM > RE: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? > What therapy is best? > > > Dear Ieneke, > > You are too kind. We live in this physical world. It is filled with > spiritual secrets. Inasmuch as we have incarnated into this body, we must > employ it to discover the secrets. Many seek to believe it is an illusion. > Yet, in truth, it is not. The illusion lies within the consciousness of man. > He looks at this world unable to connect himself with who he is and thus > sees this world as cut off from its spiritual underpinnings. May I quote > from one of my poems, " Only he who can be free in prison can see the Face of > God " Those who seek to negate this world are as trapped within it as those > who believe it is all there is. The wise accept what life brings to them and > seek only to find truth within the mundane. Why, because life is a mirror, > perfectly reflecting to us what occurs within. Here, man learns the art of > making every hut a castle and every castle the temple within, > > Much Love in Spirit, > > Stephen > > Ieneke van Houten [ien@w...] > Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:09 AM > > Re: Is the earth flat, round or hollow? > What therapy is best? > > > > In an illusion, the only effective therapy is belief and imagination. > > James > > Very nice James, from a cosmic point of view. > > I certainly agree with you that there in NO > chance of healing without the agreement of the mind > and spirit. > > In fact, I came up with the " timing theory of healing " . > At some point, for whatever reason, a person is ready > to be healed. > Whatever remedy or system or healing art is used at > that time will do the trick and get the credit. > > The healee may then start going around telling people > that remedy A, B, and C, which he tried while he > was not ready, are totally worthless. > But remedy G, wow, what a winner! > > I believe this accounts for much. > > As for the " everything is illusion " line, that > is all very nice for fully realized masters, but > most of us are still pretty Earth bound. > > I know I am. I am " doing threedee " . > > I am here to " Do Earth. " > She is gorgeous, I love Her! > > If you have reached the walking on water stage > already, more power to you, but I still need to > know where the crossing rocks are. > > " Every creature is a word of God " > ~Meister Eckhardt > > > ********************************************* > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this > address in an email to them: > http://www./members_add > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go > to: > > http://www./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > > > > -- ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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