Milk intolerance vs. enzyme deficiency

[Guest guest]

Do I have an intolerance to milk or is that just a symptom of my enzyme

deficiency? You say " toe-may-toe " and I say " toe-mah-toe " but it's probably

6 of one and half a dozen of the other.

 

I am not giving up my milk anymore than I'm giving up my firearms which, as

we say in the NRA, the government can have when they pry my weapon from my

cold dead hand.

 

- Anna

 

 

> Angls4Hope

> Re: Drinking milk

> > ******I would be concerned about masking an allergy and/or intolerance to

> cow's milk. By taking the enzymes are you not doing just that? Many people

find

> that drinking " organic " milk, they have less intolerances. I would be

> concerned that I would be doing damage to my body by masking the milk

problems?

> Take a look at www.notmilk.com and perhaps you might change your mind. Not

> telling you to not drink milk, just givingyou some things to think seriously

about

> before you do harm to your body.

>

> Angel Huggzz

> Linda or Angel

[Guest guest]

Anna wrote:

> Do I have an intolerance to milk or is that just a symptom of my

>enzyme deficiency?

 

If you liked (or hated) www.notmilk.org, you're gonna flip over

www.realmilk.com.

 

Pasteurization kills the enzymes in milk. Milk isn't the enemy, but

cooking the goodness out of it might very be...

 

Blessings,

Ocean

http://www.empoweredchildbirth.com

[Guest guest]

Actually I don't think that it is the same thing. If you have an enzyme

deficiency and take enzymes you will feel better because the problem

will be handled by your taking the correct action. If you are

intolerant or allergic to milk and take enzymes to handle the problem

you may feel better but you will still be allergic to the milk which

can still be causing problems and because you can't feel the initial

symptoms any more whatever the milk is doing to you will get worse and

harder to fix by the time you feel the rest of the damage that it is

doing besides the initial problem. Maybe the enzymes do fix the

problem but then maybe taking them is simply putting a finger in the

hole in the leaking wall holding back the flood and it is just a matter

of time until new cracks form and the wall breaks and falls.

Sarah G

[Guest guest]

A little insight to the pathology of milk intolerance.If you examine

the small intestime microscopically you will note that it is composed

of villi-fingerlike projectons that look very much like sea

aneome.When you examine the villi you will see that their surface is

composed of much smaller villi called microvilli.The very tip of the

villous is called the brush border and it is there that the enzyme

(lactase) used by the body to digest milk is produced.I believe there

are at least three reasons people have an enzyme deficiency or milk

intolerance.First is aging-just like our skin as we age does not

retain the ability to regenerate itself as when we are you young the

same holds true of our intestinal wall and thus we don't produce

enough lactase.Damage to the villi and microvilli can be caused by

several conditions.outside of aging,I think the two main reasons are

antibiotics and celiac disease or a variant of celiac

disease.Antibiotics alter the natural flora of the intestine and an

abnormal flora can start growing and cause damage-both

immunologically and physicaly.Celiac disease is an allergy to gluten

containing products and grains-wheat,rye,barly,and oats.Gluten is a

protein and great numbers of people have an allergy to it.When one

looks at gluten microscopically it looks just like little round

shards of glass.Some people have postulated that the gluten actually

shears off the tips of the villi.That I don't know about that and

tend to think it is more of an allergic reaction to gluten and the

subseguent damage done to the intestinal wall by the bodys immune

reaction to.The bottom line is that digestive enzymes are important

to us and will probably help us all as we age.

, Sarah <seraphimtoo@c...>

wrote:

> Actually I don't think that it is the same thing. If you have an

enzyme

> deficiency and take enzymes you will feel better because the

problem

> will be handled by your taking the correct action. If you are

> intolerant or allergic to milk and take enzymes to handle the

problem

> you may feel better but you will still be allergic to the milk

which

> can still be causing problems and because you can't feel the

initial

> symptoms any more whatever the milk is doing to you will get worse

and

> harder to fix by the time you feel the rest of the damage that it

is

> doing besides the initial problem. Maybe the enzymes do fix the

> problem but then maybe taking them is simply putting a finger in

the

> hole in the leaking wall holding back the flood and it is just a

matter

> of time until new cracks form and the wall breaks and falls.

> Sarah G

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Doc!

I did not know that about lactase.

fascinating. Microvilli are some of my fave

people.

Mine are scrubbed clean daily.

I have noticed I handle cheese better

if I do take my fiber.

 

I also do better if I leave it alone totally,

but that is not really an option.

 

Telling a Dutch woman to forget

the cheese is like telling a Hopi to lay

off the cornmeal.

 

I don't believe in abstemiousness

as a way of life.

 

Ien in the Kootenays*********************************************************Moderation in everything, including moderation!

http://businesshelpingpeople.comSee my face, browse my inspiring library!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your input Ien,I appreciate you and your posts too.Let me

tell you some more fascinating facts about your intestines.These

thoughts are substaniated in the literature but putting them together

is fairly much out of my own head.I have never really been

appreciated for my contributions and sacrifices so I appreciate your

positiveness.

Absorption in the intestines is not random.Specific nutrients are

absorbed in specific areas of the intestine.That means if for some

reason your intestine is damaged in a specific area it will reflect

that damage by not absorbing a specific nutrient,ie amino

acid,vitamins,fatty acids,carbohydrate etc.

To me a very interesting way of looking at it is to compare your

intestine to DNA.Just exactly as specific areas of the DNA strands

are responsible for specific actions,the same holds true for specific

areas of your intestines in regard to absorbtion and elimination.Thus

damage to a specific area will reflect in a specific disease as

related to both DNA and your intestine.

There is no doubt that Peyer's Patches contain stem cells that

migrate throuhout our body to regenerate our organ systems.

So much could be accomplished if we had a health care system that

did not depend upon establishing personal wealth and social

power.Think of how many lives could be saved or extended if at the

birth of every citizen stem cells had been collected from their

placenta.

Thans for your input on this board.I appreciate your posts and

encourage you to continue your positive works.

Sincerely.Dr John D. Son

, " Ieneke van Houten "

<ien@w...> wrote:

> Thanks, Doc!

> I did not know that about lactase.

> fascinating. Microvilli are some of my fave

> people.

> Mine are scrubbed clean daily.

> I have noticed I handle cheese better

> if I do take my fiber.

>

> I also do better if I leave it alone totally,

> but that is not really an option.

>

> Telling a Dutch woman to forget

> the cheese is like telling a Hopi to lay

> off the cornmeal.

>

> I don't believe in abstemiousness

> as a way of life.

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> *********************************************************

> Moderation in everything, including moderation!

>

> http://businesshelpingpeople.com

> See my face, browse my inspiring library!

[Guest guest]

Dr John Son wrote:

 

<Thanks for your input Ien,I appreciate you

and your posts too>

 

I am full of warm fuzzies now!

 

 

Ien in the Kootenays*********************************************************You ought to be thankful, a whole heaping lot,For the places and people you're lucky you're not!Dr. Seusshttp://businesshelpingpeople.comPersonal and business introduction page*********************************************************

 

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johndson2600

Friday, January 16, 2004 8:01 AM

Re: Milk intolerance vs. enzyme deficiency

Thanks for your input Ien,I appreciate you and your posts too.Let me tell you some more fascinating facts about your intestines.These thoughts are substaniated in the literature but putting them together is fairly much out of my own head.I have never really been appreciated for my contributions and sacrifices so I appreciate your positiveness.Absorption in the intestines is not random.Specific nutrients are absorbed in specific areas of the intestine.That means if for some reason your intestine is damaged in a specific area it will reflect that damage by not absorbing a specific nutrient,ie amino acid,vitamins,fatty acids,carbohydrate etc.To me a very interesting way of looking at it is to compare your intestine to DNA.Just exactly as specific areas of the DNA strands are responsible for specific actions,the same holds true for specific areas of your intestines in regard to absorbtion and elimination.Thus damage to a specific area will reflect in a specific disease as related to both DNA and your intestine.There is no doubt that Peyer's Patches contain stem cells that migrate throuhout our body to regenerate our organ systems.So much could be accomplished if we had a health care system that did not depend upon establishing personal wealth and social power.Think of how many lives could be saved or extended if at the birth of every citizen stem cells had been collected from their placenta.Thans for your input on this board.I appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue your positive works.Sincerely.Dr John D. Son , "Ieneke van Houten" <ien@w...> wrote:> Thanks, Doc!> I did not know that about lactase.> fascinating. Microvilli are some of my fave > people.> Mine are scrubbed clean daily.> I have noticed I handle cheese better> if I do take my fiber.> > I also do better if I leave it alone totally,> but that is not really an option.> > Telling a Dutch woman to forget> the cheese is like telling a Hopi to lay> off the cornmeal.> > I don't believe in abstemiousness > as a way of life.> > Ien in the Kootenays> *********************************************************> Moderation in everything, including moderation!> > http://businesshelpingpeople.com> See my face, browse my inspiring library!********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.