Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 IT seems many are suffering so badly! This conversation with a mother on the essential oils forum, who has no idea about Ayurveda but had good success with an oil I didn't know could be used here, frankincense. Shared with her approval. - I had asked if anyone had worked with the first two which are very gentle. - Ysha Hi Ysha, I don't have any specific experience for either chamomile or rosewood in regards to thrush. I fought thrush with my both of my children. My daughter had a terrible diaper rash from it. I used the frankincense neat in her mouth, on my nipples, and on her bottom. It worked. My nipples cracked with my son's thrush – it happened before I knew it and that is THE worst experience possible when breastfeeding. I was so grateful for frankincense and helichrysum (neat on nipples for healing) and lansinoh. I battled a yeast infection for months when I was pregnant with my son. It was horrible. I tried so many different things - yogurt suppositories, vinegar douches, hydrogen peroxide douches, fresh essence mouthwash douches, all laced with oils of course – with no relief. It wasn't until I combined the melaleuca, the claraderm spray, and two Life 5 (probiotic) capsules each evening (vaginal) that I got relief. Katilyn older, other detail - Hi Katilyn - Sounds like horrible experiences and powerful learning ones. I had cracked and bleeding nipples with my first baby about 36 years ago....what worked best was the lanolyn and 5-10 min/day n the sun (I figure Vit D there). An ayurvedic doc, Claudia Welsch whom I've heard speak swears also by meleleuca for vaginal yeast. Strong doses actually, don't have my notes handy on it. We don't see so much of these things as Ayurvedic doulas. Thrush and other yeast infections are related to very poor metabolism of foods - weak or irregular " agni " . and often, high heat creating foods, not just sugars. Yours is the first time I've heard use of Frankincense for thrush, sounds like great choice in terms of being milder tasting. May I post your experience on the perinatalayurveda forum ()? We have a file on the subject also, some in depth analyses by ayurvedic practitioners working with it, and other oily mom's experiences. Warm Regards, Ysha > Hi Amy, > I am a current breastfeeding Mom. I have dealt with Thrush by using Frankincense oil. It is very mild to the taste and gentle to the nipples. Apply it neat AT LEAST every time the baby nurses, both before AND after the nursing to both nipples, regardless of use. If there is major soreness wait until the oil is absorbed and then apply Lansinoh Lanolin, also both before and after the nursing. If possible, give the nipples a lot of air (wait to apply the Lansinoh). Wash clothes, bras, breast pads, teethers, toys, everything that could have touched the nipples or the baby's mouth really well and often. The frankincense oil can be put directly in the baby's mouth if thrush is really bad. There is hardly any flavor. It can also be applied to the baby's bottom neat if there is a rash from the thrush. If the mother also has a yeast infection use capsules of Melaleuca Alternifolia inserted into the vagina followed by ClaraDerm spray. Feel free to email me with more questions. > Katilyn Prickett kp01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I wish I knew what some of these things are on this forum and where to find them and how to use them. It sometimes sounds like the world is being taken over by fungus:) I usually tell moms not to use Lansinoh, It is made from sheep oil and some may be allergic to wool, hence, Lansinoh. It also holds moisture and fungus against the nipple. Moms like it when their nipples are dry. I wonder if coconut oil wouldn't be better for that. Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD Postpartum Care Services Portland, OR www.vickyyorkdoula.com references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork - ayurdoula ayurveda Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:07 PM PerinatalAyurveda forum thrush w/o ayurveda IT seems many are suffering so badly! This conversation with a mother on the essential oils forum, who has no idea about Ayurveda but had good success with an oil I didn't know could be used here, frankincense. Shared with her approval. - I had asked if anyone had worked with the first two which are very gentle. - Ysha Hi Ysha, I don't have any specific experience for either chamomile or rosewood in regards to thrush. I fought thrush with my both of my children. My daughter had a terrible diaper rash from it. I used the frankincense neat in her mouth, on my nipples, and on her bottom. It worked. My nipples cracked with my son's thrush - it happened before I knew it and that is THE worst experience possible when breastfeeding. I was so grateful for frankincense and helichrysum (neat on nipples for healing) and lansinoh. I battled a yeast infection for months when I was pregnant with my son. It was horrible. I tried so many different things - yogurt suppositories, vinegar douches, hydrogen peroxide douches, fresh essence mouthwash douches, all laced with oils of course - with no relief. It wasn't until I combined the melaleuca, the claraderm spray, and two Life 5 (probiotic) capsules each evening (vaginal) that I got relief. Katilyn older, other detail - Hi Katilyn - Sounds like horrible experiences and powerful learning ones. I had cracked and bleeding nipples with my first baby about 36 years ago....what worked best was the lanolyn and 5-10 min/day n the sun (I figure Vit D there). An ayurvedic doc, Claudia Welsch whom I've heard speak swears also by meleleuca for vaginal yeast. Strong doses actually, don't have my notes handy on it. We don't see so much of these things as Ayurvedic doulas. Thrush and other yeast infections are related to very poor metabolism of foods - weak or irregular " agni " . and often, high heat creating foods, not just sugars. Yours is the first time I've heard use of Frankincense for thrush, sounds like great choice in terms of being milder tasting. May I post your experience on the perinatalayurveda forum ()? We have a file on the subject also, some in depth analyses by ayurvedic practitioners working with it, and other oily mom's experiences. Warm Regards, Ysha > Hi Amy, > I am a current breastfeeding Mom. I have dealt with Thrush by using Frankincense oil. It is very mild to the taste and gentle to the nipples. Apply it neat AT LEAST every time the baby nurses, both before AND after the nursing to both nipples, regardless of use. If there is major soreness wait until the oil is absorbed and then apply Lansinoh Lanolin, also both before and after the nursing. If possible, give the nipples a lot of air (wait to apply the Lansinoh). Wash clothes, bras, breast pads, teethers, toys, everything that could have touched the nipples or the baby's mouth really well and often. The frankincense oil can be put directly in the baby's mouth if thrush is really bad. There is hardly any flavor. It can also be applied to the baby's bottom neat if there is a rash from the thrush. If the mother also has a yeast infection use capsules of Melaleuca Alternifolia inserted into the vagina followed by ClaraDerm spray. Feel free to email me with more questions. > Katilyn Prickett kp01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 As a Lactation Consultant I always ask mothers not to use Lansinoh or any barrier type ointment on their nipples and even on babies bottom. I suggest Olive oil or Coconut oil as both has antifungal properties and they work very well for diaper rush too. Timea Szalay, IBCLC www.GentleMothering.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I like that idea:) Thanks. Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD Postpartum Care Services Portland, OR www.vickyyorkdoula.com references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork - Timea Szalay ayurveda Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:36 AM PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: thrush w/o ayurveda As a Lactation Consultant I always ask mothers not to use Lansinoh or any barrier type ointment on their nipples and even on babies bottom. I suggest Olive oil or Coconut oil as both has antifungal properties and they work very well for diaper rush too. Timea Szalay, IBCLC www.GentleMothering.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Vicky and All - Please, always just ask for which you are looking, or for clarification on anything that is unclear to you. We all will do our best, just like you do. Sometimes things posted are mostly from India, but most things someone can share where/how to get them in the US, Australia, Europe, wherever someone is. Vicky, Katilyn mentioned several products available from Young Living. You need to be able to help your clients order these things, we can help you with that bast on a phone call. I don't try to stock any inventory (business advice here) except herbs usually, though I keep enough of favorite postpartum products to give people experience sample so they can decide if they want to work with it. Love, Ysha > I wish I knew what some of these things are on this forum and where to find them and how to use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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