Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Hello, I have a 5 week old daughter with a white tongue. I understand that this is a sign of poor digestion and would like to find some resources that can help her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 look and see if she has little white patches on her inner cheeks. She might have thrush, and you may also get nipple yeast. Follow protocol for yeast. Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD Postpartum Care Services Portland/Eugene http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/ http://vmyork.ikarma.com - vivoshops ayurveda Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:58 PM PerinatalAyurveda forum Infant with white tongue Hello, I have a 5 week old daughter with a white tongue. I understand that this is a sign of poor digestion and would like to find some resources that can help her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Hi Mama; As Vicky suggested, if yeast seams indicated, we have had extensive discussions which are archived in the files section (see buttons to your left at www.perinatalayurveda). It is also very common for babies to be accumulating what we call ama, or incomplete products of digestion, most commonly from nursing too often and not having time to properly digest the previous meal. At least 2 hours from end of one feeding to beginning of another is good guidepost, although some babies at the growth spurts (like 5 weeks!) for 2-3 days will be really needing to up your milk supply. Then they may push that window, but it is otherwise at this age not a good habit to breastfeed according to the contemporary natural childbirth books' advice of " on demand " . Please search our archives also for more discussion on this. (You are nursing? Forgive me, I didn't ask, and if not, we will look more deeply once you tell Baby's eating habits and what formula, but it is the same principle - increase digestive fire and support body to burn and eliminate the toxins.) Assuming you are breastfeeding, or even if not, the quality of the food can make a difference also. If you are eating lots of heavy foods like cheeses, sour cream, ice cream etc at night especially, lots of leftovers, cold foods, or your food combining is hampering your already naturally (from birth process) weak digestion, breast milk can create some difficulty for baby to digest in this case also. Can you help us figure out the cause, with this information? THere are other suggestions which depend on this and perhaps your access to optional resources for support. Where are you and what is your exposure to Ayurveda? Blessings; Ysha > > Hello, I have a 5 week old daughter with a white tongue. I understand > that this is a sign of poor digestion and would like to find some > resources that can help her? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Yes, Ysha, I agree with all that you say about the too frequent feeding, that is, after the first week, when frequent nursing builds prolactin receptor sites and helps to avoid too much engorgement. But I think by about 1 and a half weeks babies can easily be on a 3 hour schedule. Besides, most moms nowadays need that time between feedings to care for themselves. And the growth spurts only last a couple or three days. Vicky - Ysha Oakes ayurveda Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:51 PM PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: Infant with white tongue Hi Mama; As Vicky suggested, if yeast seams indicated, we have had extensive discussions which are archived in the files section (see buttons to your left at www.perinatalayurveda). It is also very common for babies to be accumulating what we call ama, or incomplete products of digestion, most commonly from nursing too often and not having time to properly digest the previous meal. At least 2 hours from end of one feeding to beginning of another is good guidepost, although some babies at the growth spurts (like 5 weeks!) for 2-3 days will be really needing to up your milk supply. Then they may push that window, but it is otherwise at this age not a good habit to breastfeed according to the contemporary natural childbirth books' advice of " on demand " . Please search our archives also for more discussion on this. (You are nursing? Forgive me, I didn't ask, and if not, we will look more deeply once you tell Baby's eating habits and what formula, but it is the same principle - increase digestive fire and support body to burn and eliminate the toxins.) Assuming you are breastfeeding, or even if not, the quality of the food can make a difference also. If you are eating lots of heavy foods like cheeses, sour cream, ice cream etc at night especially, lots of leftovers, cold foods, or your food combining is hampering your already naturally (from birth process) weak digestion, breast milk can create some difficulty for baby to digest in this case also. Can you help us figure out the cause, with this information? THere are other suggestions which depend on this and perhaps your access to optional resources for support. Where are you and what is your exposure to Ayurveda? Blessings; Ysha > > Hello, I have a 5 week old daughter with a white tongue. I understand > that this is a sign of poor digestion and would like to find some > resources that can help her? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Ysha, how do I access the archived files at this site. I only found a few, 6 or 7 and none mentioned yeast. Vicky - Ysha Oakes ayurveda Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:51 PM PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: Infant with white tongue Hi Mama; As Vicky suggested, if yeast seams indicated, we have had extensive discussions which are archived in the files section (see buttons to your left at www.perinatalayurveda). It is also very common for babies to be accumulating what we call ama, or incomplete products of digestion, most commonly from nursing too often and not having time to properly digest the previous meal. At least 2 hours from end of one feeding to beginning of another is good guidepost, although some babies at the growth spurts (like 5 weeks!) for 2-3 days will be really needing to up your milk supply. Then they may push that window, but it is otherwise at this age not a good habit to breastfeed according to the contemporary natural childbirth books' advice of " on demand " . Please search our archives also for more discussion on this. (You are nursing? Forgive me, I didn't ask, and if not, we will look more deeply once you tell Baby's eating habits and what formula, but it is the same principle - increase digestive fire and support body to burn and eliminate the toxins.) Assuming you are breastfeeding, or even if not, the quality of the food can make a difference also. If you are eating lots of heavy foods like cheeses, sour cream, ice cream etc at night especially, lots of leftovers, cold foods, or your food combining is hampering your already naturally (from birth process) weak digestion, breast milk can create some difficulty for baby to digest in this case also. Can you help us figure out the cause, with this information? THere are other suggestions which depend on this and perhaps your access to optional resources for support. Where are you and what is your exposure to Ayurveda? Blessings; Ysha > > Hello, I have a 5 week old daughter with a white tongue. I understand > that this is a sign of poor digestion and would like to find some > resources that can help her? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Hi Vicky; My experience is that many more vata mothers and many vegetarian breastfeeding mothers' babies do need to nurse more often just 2 hours apart, with a few longer stretches in the night and perhaps during the day once or twice. Perhaps the slower digesting heavy foods like meats and heavy cheeses, quick pizzas and pasta dishes, etc favored by many American women make the milk slower (as well as more difficult and colic promoting) to digest. I hesitated to say this, as we don't want early ppartum mothers favoring those foods to get Baby to sleep longer! Sufficient balanced postpartum ayurvedic nutrition as discussed also in the files and archives is best for feeling at ease, calm, and nursing at good intervals, even though as we know, breast milk in general digests faster than formula. Nice point about time to breathe/care for themselves too. Kindly accept my admin request to delete most of previous message text *0). Love, Ysha > > Yes, Ysha, I agree with all that you say about the too frequent feeding, that is, after the first week, when frequent nursing builds prolactin receptor sites and helps to avoid too much engorgement. But I think by about 1 and a half weeks babies can easily be on a 3 hour schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Say, Ysha, Jill Fransen, the lady who is opening her home to a few women to stay there asks that you contact her, she thinks it might be best to communicate with her directly. I very likely may not be able to go to the conference after all. But don't let that stop you, you will like her a lot, very down to earth. Vicky - Ysha Oakes ayurveda Monday, July 16, 2007 10:56 AM PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: Infant with white tongue Hi Vicky; My experience is that many more vata mothers and many vegetarian breastfeeding mothers' babies do need to nurse more often just 2 hours apart, with a few longer stretches in the night and perhaps during the day once or twice. Perhaps the slower digesting heavy foods like meats and heavy cheeses, quick pizzas and pasta dishes, etc favored by many American women make the milk slower (as well as more difficult and colic promoting) to digest. I hesitated to say this, as we don't want early ppartum mothers favoring those foods to get Baby to sleep longer! Sufficient balanced postpartum ayurvedic nutrition as discussed also in the files and archives is best for feeling at ease, calm, and nursing at good intervals, even though as we know, breast milk in general digests faster than formula. Nice point about time to breathe/care for themselves too. Kindly accept my admin request to delete most of previous message text *0). Love, Ysha > > Yes, Ysha, I agree with all that you say about the too frequent feeding, that is, after the first week, when frequent nursing builds prolactin receptor sites and helps to avoid too much engorgement. But I think by about 1 and a half weeks babies can easily be on a 3 hour schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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