Perinatal or Postpartum cookbook, esoterics, role of studies

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Hi Janel;

Of course it is all very important! But the needs of the mother/baby

team after childbirth are more unusual, delicate, and I have the

material closer to ready. I just recently spent an intensive time

doing what you speak of for essential oils, a 75 page outline for a

class I teach (on preconception thru infancy and early childhood with

ayurvedic commentary).

 

The needs of pregnancy are definined somewhat differently by the

maternal and fetal needs at that time, and preconception is wisely

addressed with panchakarma, prakruti and vikruti of the parents, and

rasayana therapies. That is a brief paragraph intro to the angles. I

may include something on this as summary, thanks for the

encouragement, but can't keep expanding, we all need contractive

phases too where we collect, nurture and raise sometimes one baby at a

time ') you know.

 

See replies below interleaved...

> preconception, conception, and gestation periods where the baby's

> system (body, mind, and soul) is actually being developed, might

> your cookbook be for the childbearing years?? Yes, I said years. I

> believe it takes two years to make a baby.

 

Part of the need for in depth focus postpartum is not only the natural

weakened digestive fires after birth, but as you mention the need, re

the overlay influences of cultural and personal poor habits. Hence so

many hours in class on the subject...

 

> serious questions about how ayurvedic can work, in theory, in the US

population of women when the baby was not built with that nutrition.

 

Ayurveda is a great blessing to all with its cleansing therapies which

get at lipid based toxins such as from drugs and petrochemical

pollutants, much better than western natural medicine can, and with

its understanding of the kayakalpa window of opportunity for deep

reset in the 42 days or more after birth, with its other deep

cleansing and rejuvenative therapies. It offers hope to a world which

is yes, very at risk.

>

> All of this is to suggest and (ask for) an " Ayurvedic Cookbook

> for the Child Bearing Years for Dummies " -- a companion to my

> book " Building a Brain. "

 

Very enticing title ... !

>

> YOU know how much I have wanted to jump into this training,

> right? And, I have been resistant. I realize that the information is

> just too much for me. ... I have the sense of being just not able to

> learn so much more different information --- I am not good at >

learning foreign language.

 

Janel, it is not such a different language at all! Do you use the

words warm and cold, do you relate to the words dry and moist, oily,

slimy, light, heavy, rough, and so on? It is on this level that we

really begin with ayurveda, and the rest makes very simple sense. THe

language you sometimes see saves many words for us pracitioners to

communicate with, and gives you those tools also if you so desire.

But a rose by any name...we know how sweet it can smell! Your

enquiring mind is attempting to test and apply the theories, jumping

into advanced material here without studying the basics, my dear! It

is an important goal of all us practitioners to encourage desire for

this study...

 

> I have observed that during pregnancy is not when women open up to

> new things and ways. Their brain can't go there.

Answered in another post, not so at all by our experience! She is

opening up naturally to the creative laws of nature more lively at

this time, and motivated to be the best possible mother in her heart

of hearts. There is where we have to speak to her.

 

> My own challenge is with marketing my practice of supporting the

> baby during labor and birth because the human being is conscious.

The divine spark is there within everyone - learning to address people

where they can hear and feel honored seems to be part of your skill,

and part of our learning curve as well on the marketing end. It is

not so different...

 

> ...People are entrenched in their beliefs and ways of doing,

> being, and eating. ...

yes, they have to be spoken to in terms they can understand. Hence

getting back to the basic ayurvedic principles first, so we percieve

the needs in these simple terms and then can explain them. Clients do

not need to hear a single ayurvedic word to relate to what we say and

be guided by them. It does often help for them to know the wisdom is

not yours personally, but time-tested 5-6000 year old wisdom found in

medical textbooks and verified around the world by wise women

practices that work!

 

I want to be total organic and go mainly raw, and it's very

> hard work. My daughter who gave birth last December never embraced

> my way of eating -- her body type is like her Iowa farmer's wife

> grandmother, and my daughter loves her meat'n taters 'n gravy. She

 

Yes, we can lead a horse to water, as they say, but can't make

herdrink...And your raw diet was possibly as or more inappropriate

than the meat and potatoes for her right after childbirth. It does

help to have the understanding well massaged into our own brain. But

did you read the letter to a grandmother, posted on my articles at

www.sacredwindow.com? Maybe with another client, these things will be

easier. I often wonder how my own daughter will receive my support

when she begins to have children.

 

> You know I have questioned the effectiveness of ayurvedic in the

> general population who eats this way ---

 

Let's take this for another conversation, after you clarify your

questions. Such as to see how the general population is actually

already doing ayurveda best they know how...and how to help them

substitute something better. We all need bitter taste, for instance.

But where do most get it?....

 

> based on my belief that the gestational conditions build the baby

for THAT envirnment and may not be receptive because it can't be.

???

 

> The Primal Research shows that diabetes, stroke, cardiac are rooted

in prental nutrition. A young child, teenager, or during adulthood can

make dietary changes, but it doesn't really change the structural

foundation.

Look at prakruti and vikruti, panchakarma and rasayana therapies then

let us discuss.

 

> really important to me. This whole ayurvedic work throughout the

> lifetime is so important. For the development of your work it seems

> really important to gear your cookbook towards the entire

childbearing experience which will contribute to a cultural change in

many areas.

 

There is the theory of microcosm reflecting macrocosm, and vice versa,

and ability to influence the macrocosm my changing the microcosm.

Without the experience of transcendental conscsiousness, the logic may

end up but how to thange the microcosm? Yes, it is the place we can

have the most influence! Also in terms of the postpartum work, as it

is my little specialty, yet therein many life long changes can be

influenced, it is our experience. Just as in the other times of the

childbearing years, and other times of our lives. We have to move

from where we are, and this author (myself) also has a tendency which

needs some reining in to be effective, ie to easily spread the time

and attention too thin...

 

Janel, we will consider this further, in any case! Thanks.

Ysha