Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hi, This came from another doula list I am on. I would love to hear some feedback. I feel this lady is suffering from profound malnutrition, lack of minerals, good fats, proteins, etc. combined with possible liver involvement. And major lifestyle issues... Thanks and Blessings, Adrienne Leeds Certified Clinical Herbalist Holistic Doula Apprentice Midwife www.charlestondoulas.com - wildbeachdoulas Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:50 PM [wildbeachdoulas] Postpartum puzzler - edema + more after pre-eclamsia I need some expert advice. I've been working all kinds of hours with a mom of twins, who has started having some very odd and unreassuring postpartum symptoms. She's been to see both her OB/GYN and her primary care doc, had a liver profile done ( " some of the numbers were a little off " ) and CBC (no results on that yet), etc. She's also scheduled for an echo-cardiogram next week, and they are testing her thyroid levels. However, the docs seem to be doing a lot of this " just in case, " and really believe that she's fine. My intuition says that's not quite accurate. Here's the background: * Mama is a lovely 40-year-old African American woman. This was her first pregnancy. She has a very Type A, driven personality, and is an executive at a home improvement store's corporate headquarters. She intends to return to work at 6 weeks postpartum. * The twins were conceived while she was on fertility medication. Four sacs originally appeared on the u/s, but one embryo apparently never developed. One fetus was miscarried at 12 weeks, leaving the twins-- a fraternal pair, boy and girl. * Mama was put on bedrest at 25 weeks after going into preterm labor twice, the second time dilating to 2 cm and effacing to 100%. * Preterm labor was stopped both times by mag sulf. * Due to the bedrest, her appetite was low and it was always a struggle to eat well. By 35-36 weeks gestation, she had some moderate edema that was constant no matter what she did, and her BP began to go up. I interviewed with her for postpartum doula work during this period, and encouraged her to eat (esp. more protein), drink plenty of fluids and salt her food to perk her appetite. She was too miserable to hear me well, and the Christmas holidays (she was allowed to go off bedrest and got pretty busy-- too busy to eat, sometimes) didn't help matters. * By 37 wks+ 5, the doc was talking induction because her BP continued to rise, swelling was increasing, and they felt she was showing signs of pre-eclamsia. I repeated the encouragement to eat more protein, which she finally began to do-- by this time she was so uncomfortable with the swelling that she was willing to try anything. A day and a half later, the swelling had begun to improve some but her BP was still up. The doc sent her to the hospital for immediate action. * She birthed at exactly 38 weeks, Dec 31, cesarean with an epidural. Baby A, Chloe, was breech at this point so there was no offer of induction and vaginal birth. * Everything seemed fine immediately postpartum. Caleb was just under 5 lbs and Chloe just under 4 lbs. Both nursed well and had no problems related to their birthweight or gestational age. Both went home with mama when she was discharged, though they were re-admitted a day or two afterward due to an inability to regulate their body temps. * Mama was not readmitted w/ babies, so she spent 4 days on a couch in the waiting room. Breastfeeding assistance from staff wasn't adequate. Her milk came in but staff didn't want the babies out of the incubators very long... with predictable results. By the time the twins came home, she was down to nursing each baby once per day. * Lochia and involution seemed to be WNL, but healing of her incision was slow and difficult. The wound drained profusely and had to be packed until the latter part of last week. As of now, 4 weeks+2 pp, it's still not completely healed. * Her edema (primarily lower body) initially seemed to be resolving pretty well, but then hit a plateau and just stopped improving. Her OB gave her a prescription for a moderately strong diuretic on Monday of last week, when she went in to have her incision checked. * She began taking the diuretic that day, and either coincidentally or not coincidentally, that is when things seemed to take a turn for the worse. * As of Wednesday of last week, just two days after starting the diuretic, she had /gained/ weight. In fact, she gained a total of 9 lbs last week. This, despite eating very little-- her appetite is still low. In addition, while her abdomen had gone down a good deal by Monday, I noticed on Weds that it was swollen and distended to the point that she looked 8 months pregnant again. She said it felt uncomfortably hard and tight, especially up high (just below her breasts). * As of today, her edema is definitely worse than it was last week. Her abdomen is slightly less distended, but not by much. Still larger than it was a week ago. She's had headaches, been very queasy and has vomited, and sometimes experiences a great deal of dizziness that is periodic but doesn't seem related to what she's doing. She wants to crunch on ice, and says everything tastes like it has soap in it. The thought of food repulses her, and she's currently subsisting on oranges and protein shakes. She says she has increased her fluid intake but her urine output has /not/ increased. She's also troubled by shortness of breath, moreso now than right after giving birth. Finally, the whites of her eyes are slightly yellow. Her docs told her to exercise (they feel her breathlessness is due to the extra weight she's put on!), to eat bland foods (they think she has a GI virus that's been going around), and to " get some rest. " Yeah, right. Like I said, based on my intuition and observances, exercise and bland food and rest (while it would certainly be good for her) are not going to address the root cause here. She /is/ stressed-- with twins, low endurance from prolonged bedrest, and a poorly healing cesarean wound to complicate her recovery, that's pretty understandable. Although her Type A personality is softening some and she's learning to relax a bit, she's also sometimes very hard on herself. Unfortunately, extended family members are being hard on her too, apparently feeling that she should be " feeling better " by now. This isn't the type of woman who can easily allow herself to be lie around, so her prolonged recovery and worsening physical symptoms say to me that something is wrong. Fortunately, she is no longer taking the diuretic. Her only meds now are an iron supplement (although her hematocrit was WNL today-- in fact, higher than it had been just before she gave birth) and prenatal vitamins. So, dear wise women... that brings us to the present. What do you think? Any and all suggestions, advice and information are VERY welcome. The sooner, the better. I'm concerned. Much love, " The most powerful thing you can do to change the world is to change your own beliefs about the nature of life, people, and reality to something more positive .. and begin to act accordingly. " --Shakti Gawain Sullivan, CBE, CMHD, EFT-CC Childbirth Education, Holistic Doula Services, Reiki, EFT Shekinah Birthing Co. - http://www.shekinahbirthing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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