Dreamtime

October 18, 2005

Are you going to be at the seminar starting Friday night in Oregon? There's a

lot to answer here, and not enough space for a post like this.

What is the location in your friend's energy field for anger, pain, and hurt /

betrayal / whatever?

RV for that answer if you do not know already.

Remember the subjective mind believes whatever gets suggested to it and that

when two suggestions are in conflict, the stronger suggestion wins. Remember

that you do not have to directly contact your friend. You can pretend to be

somebody else or send pictures / words / feelings of somebody else.

Take that person who lied about you and have " them " (ie an " imposter " , not the

real them) appear to your friend in their dream. Program the best time to

influence them.

I personally would prefer right before they wake up so they are aware of it so

that their conscious mind goes " oh shit! " and starts to add in internal dialogue

and paranoid " chatter " . But you energy test it for yourself and program the

best time to influence that person.

Remember you do NOT want them to know the dream came from you. There are

exceptions, but there's just not room in this post for all that.

Have that person who lied appear to them in their dream with a forked tongue

(symbol for snakey, lying, telling untruths, cunning, trying to outsmart

everyone and take advantage of them and deceive them, blab, blab, blab).

Have that person with the forked tongue IN THE LOCATION of betrayal, hurt, etc,

with their forked tongue flapping rapidly as their lips move and they spout out

lies about you to your friend, with a wild look on their face as they tell lie

after lie after lie about you.

Then your friend wakes up and has recollection of the dream of that person LYING

to them about you, deceiving them and taking advantage of their trust.

This is assuming you program to communicate with them in a dream right before

they wake up instead of programming for them to have amnesia for the dream.

Then, of course, later, you want to have the dream of you and them communicating

and being good friends again, even better friends than before.

Repeat dreams however many times needed.

That's a basic " battle plan " that can be adapted to fit your needs. Or you

could use something else instead. That's just a real good starter, and it does

happen to work really, really well, as long as the person does not know they are

being influenced by you in the dream. Someone tried to do that crap with me,

and I noticed the locations for my friend were different than before, so I fixed

things back and hated that other person even more than before. Another time

someone influenced me in my dreams, I knew it was them, I knew they were

influencing me, and I also knew they were correct, so I mentally thanked them

for helping me out and saving me from making a huge mistake.

Like I said, there's just not enough room to cover the entire topic in a post.

Hopefully you've got something to work with here, though. If you've got more

questions or if anyone else has some additional good ideas, go ahead and post.

Jim

Psychic Close Encounters Dream Invaders...

stuydaze <stuydaze

Oct 17, 2005 3:41 PM

Dreamtime

I've been enjoying the RI/RV thing, and getting some strange

experiences from it all. I decided to scope out some old friends & see

if I could reconnect. I was reaching out just before bed. In a few

cases I felt contact, usually a warm, clear feeling. In the case of

someone whom I havent spoken to in about a year I sensed they were

bound up in so much daily stuff they no longer saw it relevant to keep

up with old friends. In another I sensed real anger towards me based

on something someone else had told them. felt it through a red & black

wall of pain & hurt & cold repession. And hopelessness. One morning I

woke up dreaming that someone was whispering messages to me, but

couldn't make out the words. Weird.

So--Any way to reconnect with old friends besides just beaming love?

Anyway to heal an old hurt in someone I care for who believes ill of

me? Any way to make dream voices speak more clearly?

Please understand, I'm not just passing the buck--I'd like to exchange

experiences & techniques. I'm having fun experimenting with all of

this, and I'm actively practicing & developing my skills. I'm actually

hoping for a little discussion & comparison, and I plan to post my

experiences when I've got something solid.

Cheers,

j.

www.mindcontrolcentral.com AMAZING " GPS Of The Mind " Secrets That Give YOU

Remote-Control Access To What Others Think And Do!

" The techniques that Jim showed me how to do helped me quit my job and become my

own boss! " --Ron T., Shawnee, OK

October 18, 2005

Jim,

Wish I could make it to the seminar. I'm out in the east coast & my

modest finances are tied up right now. One of these days, though!

You gave me a lot to think about!

I've avoided using negative imagery--I've had bad lick with it. I try

to include sending emotion with my RI (warmth, unconditional love,

etc.). I'd experimented once with sending negatives to someone who'd

cheated me. the next day I attracted all sorts of hostility from

strangers, including having a cab drive throw me out of a cab, without

charging me for the ride, just because I gave him a $20 and he didn't

have change. That was one angry cab driver...

The anger I've sensed is complicated. I'm not percieving it as a

thing, but rather as concepts. I sort of get it as a lump-download &

it plays in my subconscious throughout the day as my mind decodes it

onto usable data. Oddly, I'd had this happen once before with someone

else. Seems there are irreconcilable changes in her life and she

associates them with me. Interestingly, last night, she'd dropped

completely off my mental screen. couldn't hardly get the ghost of an

image. No feeling, nothing. That happened with another friend but they

reappeard a few days later. Me or them, I wonder?

For the friend who has just become disinterested, I'm thinking it

would be a lot of fun & a great reinforcement if I sould RI her to

call me, but I'm not sure it's worth the investment of the time. She

so focussed on the events of the moment that calling me would be a

significant stretch, and feel too artificial to her. I get the feeling

that these things have to be aproached in tiny steps to feel natural.

Thanks again, & have a great time in Oregon!

--J.

, " James R.

Knippenberg " <erommel@e...> wrote:

>

> Are you going to be at the seminar starting Friday night in Oregon?

There's a lot to answer here, and not enough space for a post like this.

>

> What is the location in your friend's energy field for anger, pain,

and hurt / betrayal / whatever?

>

> RV for that answer if you do not know already.

>

> Remember the subjective mind believes whatever gets suggested to it

and that when two suggestions are in conflict, the stronger suggestion

wins. Remember that you do not have to directly contact your friend.

You can pretend to be somebody else or send pictures / words /

feelings of somebody else.

>

> Take that person who lied about you and have " them " (ie an

" imposter " , not the real them) appear to your friend in their dream.

Program the best time to influence them.

>

> I personally would prefer right before they wake up so they are

aware of it so that their conscious mind goes " oh shit! " and starts to

add in internal dialogue and paranoid " chatter " . But you energy test

it for yourself and program the best time to influence that person.

>

> Remember you do NOT want them to know the dream came from you.

There are exceptions, but there's just not room in this post for all that.

>

> Have that person who lied appear to them in their dream with a

forked tongue (symbol for snakey, lying, telling untruths, cunning,

trying to outsmart everyone and take advantage of them and deceive

them, blab, blab, blab).

>

> Have that person with the forked tongue IN THE LOCATION of betrayal,

hurt, etc, with their forked tongue flapping rapidly as their lips

move and they spout out lies about you to your friend, with a wild

look on their face as they tell lie after lie after lie about you.

>

> Then your friend wakes up and has recollection of the dream of that

person LYING to them about you, deceiving them and taking advantage of

their trust.

>

> This is assuming you program to communicate with them in a dream

right before they wake up instead of programming for them to have

amnesia for the dream.

>

> Then, of course, later, you want to have the dream of you and them

communicating and being good friends again, even better friends than

before.

>

> Repeat dreams however many times needed.

>

> That's a basic " battle plan " that can be adapted to fit your needs.

Or you could use something else instead. That's just a real good

starter, and it does happen to work really, really well, as long as

the person does not know they are being influenced by you in the

dream. Someone tried to do that crap with me, and I noticed the

locations for my friend were different than before, so I fixed things

back and hated that other person even more than before. Another time

someone influenced me in my dreams, I knew it was them, I knew they

were influencing me, and I also knew they were correct, so I mentally

thanked them for helping me out and saving me from making a huge mistake.

>

> Like I said, there's just not enough room to cover the entire topic

in a post.

>

> Hopefully you've got something to work with here, though. If you've

got more questions or if anyone else has some additional good ideas,

go ahead and post.

>

> Jim

> Psychic Close Encounters Dream Invaders...

>

> stuydaze <stuydaze>

> Oct 17, 2005 3:41 PM

>

> Dreamtime

>

> I've been enjoying the RI/RV thing, and getting some strange

> experiences from it all. I decided to scope out some old friends & see

> if I could reconnect. I was reaching out just before bed. In a few

> cases I felt contact, usually a warm, clear feeling. In the case of

> someone whom I havent spoken to in about a year I sensed they were

> bound up in so much daily stuff they no longer saw it relevant to keep

> up with old friends. In another I sensed real anger towards me based

> on something someone else had told them. felt it through a red & black

> wall of pain & hurt & cold repession. And hopelessness. One morning I

> woke up dreaming that someone was whispering messages to me, but

> couldn't make out the words. Weird.

>

> So--Any way to reconnect with old friends besides just beaming love?

> Anyway to heal an old hurt in someone I care for who believes ill of

> me? Any way to make dream voices speak more clearly?

>

> Please understand, I'm not just passing the buck--I'd like to exchange

> experiences & techniques. I'm having fun experimenting with all of

> this, and I'm actively practicing & developing my skills. I'm actually

> hoping for a little discussion & comparison, and I plan to post my

> experiences when I've got something solid.

>

> Cheers,

> j.

>

> www.mindcontrolcentral.com AMAZING " GPS Of The Mind " Secrets That

Give YOU Remote-Control Access To What Others Think And Do!

> " The techniques that Jim showed me how to do helped me quit my job

and become my own boss! " --Ron T., Shawnee, OK

>

October 20, 2005

If what you said about the person lying to her is true, then you would NOT be

using negative imagery -- you would be doing a huge favor to your friend.

Although if you feel guilty about it, the feelings of guilt will get in the way.

There are other ways -- go talk to her at level and tell her what REALLY

happened -- and if the guy was telling " part " of the truth in with the lies,

level with her and tell her whatever the truth is.

When you get the feeling that your communication was successful and you've

resolved the problem, program to know when is the best time for YOU to contact

her.

You don't solve problems by trying to get the other person to make the first

move to make things right. You go first. Do the mental programming, then take

CONGRUENT action on what you programmed. Of course, include in your mental

programming to know whether to wait until she's ready to talk to you or to go

talk with her. I'd recommend that when there's a problem between you and

someone else that if you want to have a relationship of whatever type with that

person, you take the lead to go fix things, because if they're pissed off at

you, they probably won't.

Program the result, and you might also get answers that are important about what

their criteria is that they need fulfilled or that they feel was violated, and

you will get an opportunity to find out what kinds of responses you need to have

in order to get the outcome you programmed for.

I posted about how I used mental programming with a supervisor to influence a

meeting ahead of time. I've done that multiple times. Heck, when you want an

outcome, program for it an make sure you " stack the deck " in your favor before

you go do it. I don't recall if it's on this list or the mindmastery list. It

might be on both lists.

Now if you're attempting to get an ex girlfriend back, I have mixed feelings on

that, although we've all been there before, too.

I had some interesting answers in dreams that caused me to wake up CRAVING to be

with someone. I couldn't stop thinking about them all day.

I wrote down the dream and how to do the technique. If we have time, I might go

over the steps in Oregon.

Have fun! See some of you real soon!

Jim

stuydaze <stuydaze

Oct 18, 2005 3:54 PM

Re: Dreamtime