Guest guest Posted September 17, 1999 Report Posted September 17, 1999 Crow: would you be willing to share the shamanic journeying web list which you mention? Thanx jillea(:-) wrote: > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Get $10 off Vitamins & Herbs from HealthShop.com! No minimum purchase. > Enter coupon code ONELIST at checkout for instant credit. > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/healthshop3 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > **************************************** > To from , send an email to - > > ------ > > There are 9 messages in this issue. > > Topics in today's digest: > > 1. The Hopping Stone Vision > Caroline Abreu <crow > 2. Re: Neuropathy > RONNICHEEZ > 3. Reply to Jan.... > pamela4848 > 4. reply to Pamela > " Juniper Thyme " <juniper.thyme > 5. Michelle > Fun Birds <funbirds > 6. Re: Digest Number 113 > Rainwmyn > 7. Re: Digest Number 113 > Rainwmyn > 8. Re: reply to Pamela > Mcv1052 > 9. Re: [Freedom_for_Bodywork] Re: Florida Reiki Issue > Manny Abreu <whiteowl > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 1 > Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:51:06 -0400 > Caroline Abreu <crow > The Hopping Stone Vision > > This story came to me by way of a shamanic journeying list I belong > to. > I hope you all enjoy it, especially the stone hoppers amongst you! > > " The Hopping Stone Vision " > By David Sunfellow > > Deep in the southwest deserts, an old medicine man and young brave > stand atop a great plateau. Together, they silently survey all the > earth. > > After what seems like ages of absorbing all that can be seen, the old > man taps his medicine stick on the ground. From twelve different > directions great streaks of lightning strike the earth, and from each > place the lightning strikes, twelve great stones begin to form. As the > stones form, the old man begins to sing an ancient song. > > Drawn, irresistibly, by the old man's song, the twelve great stones > slowly weave their way through the vast obstacles that stand between > them and the plateau. They pass over enormous mountains and vast > stretches of water. They roll through dense forests and jungles. They > cross great deserts and glaciers -- growing stronger, larger, and more > powerful with each passing moment. > > Finally, all twelve stones reach the mesa and silently gather around > the old man and brave. > > " You see these twelve great stones? " > > " Yes, Grandfather. " > > " Build a sacred circle with them. " > > With prayerfulness and great care, the brave gathers the stones and > places them in a sacred circle. " Do you know what you have done, my > son? " > > " I have built a medicine wheel. " > > " Yes. Go now and show me your place. Walk into the Sacred Circle and > sit upon the stone that represents your position in the Great Circle > of Life. " > > As the brave moves towards the Sacred Circle, the old man begins to > chant -- and all twelve stones begin to glow. > > For a few moments, the young brave prayerfully circles the medicine > wheel trying to find the stone that represents his particular place: > His personality and temperament, his strengths and weaknesses; but > none of them feels right to him, so he chooses the one that best seems > to fit: he chooses the Red Man Stone and sits on it. But after a few > moments, his seat begins to smoke and he leaps off the great stone > calling out in pain. > > " The Red Man Stone is red hot! " > > The old man looks at him and smiles mischievously. > > " Perhaps you are not meant to be a Red Man this life. Try another > stone. " > > Worried and confused now, the young brave stares at the glowing circle > of stones. > > For a long time he stares and refuses to move. > > He calms his mind. He concentrates. He carefully studies the texture, > shape, color and size of each great stone, searching for the one that > feels most like him. > > Finally, the young brave takes a deep breath, asks the Great Spirit > for help and walks over to the White Man Stone. But as soon as he sits > upon the great rock, his seat begins to smoke, and he leaps off > screaming again. > > " The White Man Stone is red hot, too! " > > Seemingly, to delight in the young brave's dilemma, the old man > answers, " Then you are not meant to be a White Man this life. Try > again. " > > More perplexed than ever, the young brave tries again, this time > choosing the Oriental Stone -- with the same results: His seat catches > on fire and he leaps up again! > > " ALL OF THESE STONES ARE RED HOT!!! How do you expect me to find my > place in the Great Circle if I cannot sit on any stone? " > > The old man smiles and looks deeply into the young brave's eyes. > " Perhaps you are not meant to sit on any single stone this life. > Perhaps you are meant to hop from stone to stone. " > > " Then I shall have no place to sit in the Sacred Circle! " > > " Perhaps your place is the Hopping Place -- which is no place, and all > places; the last place we must master before we can leave this world > and join the Great Spirit Who lives in the center of the Great > Circle. " > > Stunned by the old man's revelation, the young brave is silent. As if > struck by some great bolt of lightning, he cannot move or speak. He > can only tremble as new thoughts and feelings rush into his mind and > heart. > > For a few moments, the old man leaves the brave to his thoughts. Then > he speaks again. > > " Listen. " > > The young brave listens and begins to hear the twelve stones arguing. > > " Do you hear the stones arguing with one another? " > > " Yes, Grandfather. " > > " And do you know why they argue so, day and night, age upon age, > without ceasing? " > > " Because they do not understand one another? " > > " Yes. And do you know why they do not understand one another? " > > " No. " > > " Because they sit in one place all the time and can not yet hop as you > do. " > > The old man looks deep into the eyes of the brave and then continues. > " Since you are a hopper, your job is to hop from stone to stone and > help them understand one another. If you do this, my son, you shall > find peace in your heart and help bring peace and happiness to the > Great Medicine Wheel of Life. This is the task the Great Spirit has > given you. " > > Another long silence descends upon the old man and brave. They both > stare at the glowing red stones for a long time. At last, the old man > turns to the brave and speaks again. > > " Remember this vision, my son, and share it with those whom the Great > Spirit sends to you. For this vision is not only given to you. It is > also given to the other stone hoppers who have come to the earth to > unite the Great Medicine Wheel of Life. " > > -- > Blessings, > Crow > " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " > -- > Rev. Caroline Abreu, BS, RN, CHTP/I, CRMT > ICQ# 4458763 > AIM= CaroCrow > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 2 > Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:42:12 EDT > RONNICHEEZ > Re: Neuropathy > > Thanks Cathy! > ~Ronni > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 3 > Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:56:20 -0600 > pamela4848 > Reply to Jan.... > > Jan wrote: > have you ever come across a > > book > > called 'The Inner Child' or know anyone who uses this type of > > therapy? it is > > a powerful way to reconnect with loving yourself, gaining self > > esteem,and > > confidence and rebalancing body ,mind and spirit. > > > > Take time for you, make time for you, -a little each day (when the > > children > > aren't too demanding!(: )> > > Thank you so much for your concern, Jan. I will certainly get this book. > I am doing *a lot* of reading right now....practically anything I can > get my hands on about changing and improving. I am also keeping a daily > 'feelings' journal, I keep soft music on and a scented candle lit through > out my day while with my two little ones. I repeat my mantra *hundreds* > of times throughout the day, which helps me to stay calm and rids me of > my negative self-talk. I don't have this 'craving' to seek out a > substance that might give me peace.....for the first time in well over a > year, I have found it inside, these last two days. It's small and shines > like a pin dot, but it's there and I can see it's potential. I have > given it plenty of room to grow and my trust that I will protect it > rather then abuse it. It is priceless to me now. Thank you again, Jan. > > Love and Compassion, > ~Pamela > > _________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 4 > Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:00:23 +0100 > " Juniper Thyme " <juniper.thyme > reply to Pamela > > Hi Pamela, > It's great to hear you sound more positive.Your idea of writing a daily > journal is excellent, do you get to read it to anyone I wonder? > > you wrote: > <<for the first time in well over a > year, I have found it inside, these last two days. It's small and shines > like a pin dot, but it's there and I can see it's potential. >> > This is so good, nurture it well and with love and it will grow step by > step. May make you want to cry but that is good too,a sign the healing has > begun. > I've enclosed details of the book as there are so many about-it has lots of > little practical exercises (not physical) to help to find that inner peace. > > Recovery of Your Inner Child: by Lucia Capacchione > > Publisher: Simon & Schuster > ISBN: 0671701355 > Retail Price: US $13.00 > > in light and love > Jan > > " Healing is making ourselves whole. Healing our Inner Child is a major part > of our recovery. Lucia Capacchione is a master at gently guiding you through > this process, Love yourself enough to recover from the past. " > -- Louise Hay author of YOU CAN HEAL YOUR LIFE > > The Inner Child lives within all of us. It's the part of us that feels > emotions and is playful, intuitive, and creative. Usually hidden under our > grown-up personas, the Inner Child holds the key to intimacy in > relationships, physical and emotional well-being, recovery from addictions, > and the creativity and wisdom of our inner selves. > > Recovery of Your Inner Child is the only book that shows you how to have a > firsthand experience of your Inner Child -- actually feeling its emotions > and recapturing its sense of wonder -- by writing and drawing with your > non-dominant hand. Expanding on the highly acclaimed technique introduced in > The Power of Your Other Hand, here Dr. Capacchione shares scores of hands-on > activities that will help you to embrace your Vulnerable Child and your > Angry Child, find the Nurturing Parent within, and finally discover the > Creative and Magical Child that can heal your life. > > Known for her discovery of the healing power of writing and drawing with the > non-dominant hand, Lucia Capacchione is an art therapist with a Ph.D. in > psychology, serves as a consultant to Walt Disney Imagineering. and is > nationally recognized for her workshops in recovery and co-dependence. Her > work has been highly praised by such leaders in the health-care field as Dr. > Bernie Siegel, Norman Cousins, Joan Borysenko, and Dr. Gerald Jampolsky. She > has written six other books, including The Power of Your Other Hand, The > Picture of Health,and The Creative Journal. > > ---------- > ---- > Other books by Capacchione, Lucia > ---------- > ---- > > Related Subjects: > > Recovery: General & Miscellaneous > > Self Help: Inner Work/Feelings > > Reincarnation & Karma > > ---------- > ---- > Insight Metaphysical Bookstore > 505 South First Street, Champaign, Illinois 61820, USA > 1-888-326-5683 (Toll Free) or 1-217-352-5683 > Fax: 1-217-352-1233 > ---------- > ---- > Please write your comments and suggestions to: dreamtime > © Copyright 1997, 1998, 1999 Insight Metaphysical Bookstore > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 5 > 15 Sep 99 20:02:47 EDT > Fun Birds <funbirds > Michelle > > Hi Chrisy/Raven, > > I sent you an e-mail last week. You probably did not receive it. > > Why don't you try the MS websites below for information. There are several > foundations as well as chat and support groups and even an e-mail list similar > to this but for people with MS. I do not belong to it but it is available. > Also, a good book to read is Dr. Roy Swank's book, " The Multiple Sclerosis > Diet Book " which provides a lot of great information as well as a diet geared > to slow down the progression of the disease. It can be picked up at many of > the larger bookstores as well as ordered through the internet. Dr. Swank's > clinic's website is: http://www.swank.org > > http://www.medsupport.org/njindex.html > http://www.nmss.org > http://www.infosci.org > http://www.msaa.com/front.html > http://www.klinksNco.com/ms > > MS is a very frightening disease, but it does not have to mean the end of > hope. Many live with this and other diseases and continue to function. You > need to balance the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual parts of your > life. I know, easier said then done, but it CAN be done. I do it every day > and hold a full-time and demanding job and have had MS for at least 20 or more > years. I raised a baby totally on my own after my divorce 12 years ago. None > of my coworkers are even aware that I have the disease. Maybe in the future > it will get worse, and maybe not. However, I choose to believe that it will > not and focus on living and being well. I meditate, go to a wonderful energy > healer, take supplements but no medications, etc. Some days I feel okay and > other days I feel horrible, but then again who doesn't have days like this > <smile>. I have been interested in a holistic/spiritual lifestyle since I was > young so that has made it easier. However, when first diagnosed I was > terrified as well but then decided that I had the disease but it did not have > me. I educated myself about it and took steps that I thought would help me > have a better quality of living. Interestingly enough, I have a better > lifestyle now than I did prior to being diagnosed and am thankful and grateful > for each and every day that I can get up, go to work and live my life. Life > has a different meaning now. > > Feel free to contact me directly if at any time you would like further > information or if I can be of help in any way. Do check out the websites > below which are helpful. > > Blessings to you and keep the faith which is important. We are all tested > along the road of life, only in different ways. > > Signed, > > FB/Funbirds. Raven, huh? Birds of a feather flock together? LOL! > > __________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 6 > Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:07:24 EDT > Rainwmyn > Re: Digest Number 113 > > In a message dated 9/14/99 11:22:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > writes: > > << > > Raven, I don't know anything about MS or what the symptoms are or any of > that, but I do recognise a sister in distress. All I can do is send you > energy and pray. Sometimes it is a comfort to know you are not alone. > Blessings.....Song > > > ______________________________ >> > Thank you song....blessings,love n light, Raven > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 7 > Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:11:32 EDT > Rainwmyn > Re: Digest Number 113 > > thank you crow you made me smile..love n light, Raven > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 8 > Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:29:16 EDT > Mcv1052 > Re: reply to Pamela > > Hi Jan > Journaling has helped me on my journey very much. Writing down all my > thoughts has helped me learn more about myself every day. I have realesed > anger, have saidhow beautiful the day was. It has helped me when negative > thoughts come > and I am having a hard time. I have kept my journals and looked back and > sometimes they have shown me how much I have healed. They have also shown > me things that I have forgotten. Journalling has been a tool that has > hellped me in many ways. > Love Cathy > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ > > Message: 9 > Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:07:09 -0400 > Manny Abreu <whiteowl > Re: [Freedom_for_Bodywork] Re: Florida Reiki Issue > > A question was asked: > > > Who would benefit most from making it mandatory anyone practicing Reiki, > > Polarity, etc have to be trained in massage? It is so simple... It breaks > > my heart to see so many people with blinders on or wool over their eyes... > > What bothers me, personally, is that I went to school with Reiki practitioners > who were spending upwards of $5000 to become LMT's only so they could practice > Reiki; and not a single one of those Reiki practitioners opted to challenge the > local legislation dictating they must be LMT's in order to practice Reiki. That > was the bothersome part. > BTW, not one of those Reiki practitioners expressed any interest in actually > practicing as massage therapists. > > Manny > > _____________________________ > _____________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted September 17, 1999 Report Posted September 17, 1999 The list I belong to is based in the UK, and is on ONElist. You can read the description of the list by visiting /community/AJourneyToYou-Shaman The owner of the list is a very special person, Ross Heaven, who offers an online course in shamanism as well (I'll forward that information to the list also). Jillea Dickinson-Fry wrote: > > Jillea Dickinson-Fry <jilea > > Crow: would you be willing to share the shamanic journeying web list which > you mention? > Thanx jillea(:-) > -- Blessings, Crow " Look for Rainbows in the Darkness " -- Quote
Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Posted September 21, 1999 Michelle, I didnot get your email, Thanks for those websites on ms they have helped me and my doctor. love n light Raven Quote
Guest guest Posted September 21, 1999 Report Posted September 21, 1999 In a message dated 9/17/99 7:32:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: << FB/Funbirds. Raven, huh? Birds of a feather flock together? LOL! >> LOL...your right.....your letter inspired me,i found it very comferting..blessings to you and all who fly this way Raven Quote
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