Guest guest Report post Posted July 14, 2001 Hello: I am new to the list. I have searched the archives, but did not find anything to help me. After losing a son and father 3 years ago, i went into quite a rage and depression. Although i hate taking chemicals, nothing was helping except the Zoloft. I have tried herbs - Melissa, St. JW, etc etc. they do nothing but give me an allergic reaction. <weak smile> I want - very badly - to get off Zoloft. Please can anyone help me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 15, 2001 There could be a few different reasons for your illness.... Do you have mercury fillings? Sometimes they cause these symptoms. God Bless, Jamie - <dr.ann <herbal remedies > Saturday, July 14, 2001 11:23 AM Re: [herbal remedies]Zoloft > Hello: I am new to the list. I have searched the archives, but did not > find anything to help me. > After losing a son and father 3 years ago, i went into quite a rage > and depression. Although i hate taking chemicals, nothing was helping > except the Zoloft. > I have tried herbs - Melissa, St. JW, etc etc. they do nothing but > give me an allergic reaction. <weak smile> > I want - very badly - to get off Zoloft. Please can anyone help me? > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 19, 2001 - <dr.ann <herbal remedies > Sunday, July 15, 2001 3:53 AM Re: [herbal remedies]Zoloft > Hello: I am new to the list. I have searched the archives, but did not > find anything to help me. > After losing a son and father 3 years ago, i went into quite a rage > and depression. Although i hate taking chemicals, nothing was helping > except the Zoloft. > I have tried herbs - Melissa, St. JW, etc etc. they do nothing but > give me an allergic reaction. <weak smile> > I want - very badly - to get off Zoloft. Please can anyone help me? Hi Dr. Ann, You are probably low in SamE or low in Serotonin or high in Homocystine, any of which are involved in depression. To boost SamE & drop Homocystine you need to eat protein foods with Methionine (a precursor) then take at least 1,000 ug of Folate, 1,000 ug of B12, 200 mg of B6 and 500 mg of TMG. This provides ample precursors and conversion factors to reduce Homocystine & boost SamE production. For Serotonin you need Thyptopan rich proteins (soy protein isolates, eggs, etc.), a small amount of 5TTP & 200 mg of B6 as the liver will convert Thyptopan into B6 if it is low. Hyperium at lower doses than you have been taking may also help as it reduces the reuptake in the nerve synapse. If I had your problem I would take the following in the morning: 30 g of protein powder (in a low GI smoothie), 1,000 ug of B12, 1,000 ug of Folate 200 mg of B6 Mild dose of Hyperium Mild dose of 5TTP Hope this helps, sorry I missed your original message, Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 19, 2001 Dear Greg, Thanks for the effort but she unsub'd right after her tirade. Psych drugs can create this kind of "attack" phenomenon, so please don't worry about. It's not you. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington > Hello: I am new to the list. I have searched the archives, but did not> find anything to help me.> After losing a son and father 3 years ago, i went into quite a rage> and depression. Although i hate taking chemicals, nothing was helping> except the Zoloft.> I have tried herbs - Melissa, St. JW, etc etc. they do nothing but> give me an allergic reaction. <weak smile>> I want - very badly - to get off Zoloft. Please can anyone help me?Hi Dr. Ann,You are probably low in SamE or low in Serotonin or high in Homocystine, any of which are involved in depression.To boost SamE & drop Homocystine you need to eat protein foods with Methionine (a precursor) then take at least 1,000 ugof Folate, 1,000 ug of B12, 200 mg of B6 and 500 mg of TMG. This provides ample precursors and conversion factors toreduce Homocystine & boost SamE production.For Serotonin you need Thyptopan rich proteins (soy protein isolates, eggs, etc.), a small amount of 5TTP & 200 mg of B6as the liver will convert Thyptopan into B6 if it is low. Hyperium at lower doses than you have been taking may alsohelp as it reduces the reuptake in the nerve synapse.If I had your problem I would take the following in the morning:30 g of protein powder (in a low GI smoothie),1,000 ug of B12,1,000 ug of Folate200 mg of B6Mild dose of HyperiumMild dose of 5TTPHope this helps, sorry I missed your original message,Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 19, 2001 - Ian Shillington N.D. herbal remedies Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:50 AM Re: [herbal remedies]Zoloft Dear Greg, Thanks for the effort but she unsub'd right after her tirade. Psych drugs can create this kind of " attack " phenomenon, so please don't worry about. It's not you. Hi Doc, Yes, I know. That's why I searched for her original message and tried to help her. The combo I mentioned does work VERY well. Too bad I can't patent it and make a $$ Billion $$ bucks.......... Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2002 Just a thought. Maybe she isn't digesting protein? Taking digestive enzymes that digest protein may help. And since we get certain amino acids from protien if she is not digesting this then couldn't it produce a craving to eat more? Just talked about amino acids helping depression. I wish I had some kind of study in this area. My mother had bad migrains and they used antidepressants to remedy this. Seems that migrains and tension headaches shows up with an imbalance in the body. I hope she didn't stop her medicine suddenly because that will cause many serious symptoms, especially if she was on a high dose. Drop one tablet a month or every two weeks. Ask me about sewing and I can spill all! Liz D. Gettingwell, " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > I have a friend who has gotten herself off Zoloft and is > experiencing protein cravings. Anyone have any thoughts on this? > She is also prone to migraines & is getting some now which she feels > may be due to her withdrawal from Zoloft. Any thoughts on that? > She is very poor & can't afford to do anything expensive. > > Alobar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2002 http://www.mts.net/~baumel/News & Views.html <tt> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; I have a friend who has gotten herself off Zoloft and is<BR> experiencing protein cravings. & nbsp; Anyone have any thoughts on this?<BR> She is also prone to migraines & amp; is getting some now which she feels<BR> may be due to her withdrawal from Zoloft. & nbsp; Any thoughts on that?<BR> She is very poor & amp; can't afford to do anything expensive.<BR> <BR> Alobar<BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2002 Just thought of this. I was on antidepressant for about 5 or 6 years straight and I knew it wasn't mental. I have been having problems with my hormones and no doctor would even test me. Found a natralpathic doctor that tested my estrogen and progesterone levels. My progesterone levels were very low. So he did two things. One, he gave me natural progesterone cream untill we found the right dose. (you can buy it at the health food store.) Then he supplemented me with low thyroid medication. Both problems presented depression and fatigue. Also to note that my thyroid test tested normal. So a new doctor I saw suggested me to stop the thyroid medication and to take alfalfa capsules. Alfalfa contains many minerals to support the thyroid and the body. When female homones are out of balance it can cause migrains, I wonder now if that was my mothers problem at the time or not? Anyway I just thought of this and couldn't miss mentioning this information because it saved my sanity. Liz D. Gettingwell, " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > I have a friend who has gotten herself off Zoloft and is > experiencing protein cravings. Anyone have any thoughts on this? > She is also prone to migraines & is getting some now which she feels > may be due to her withdrawal from Zoloft. Any thoughts on that? > She is very poor & can't afford to do anything expensive. > > Alobar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2002 Hi Alobar, Yes, the craving for protein is quite common when coming off these medications. There are so many symptoms involved and this drug affects almost all systems of the body it is hard to know what is causing what. These type of drugs are very dangerous even though they are widely prescribed. There are 4 or 5 links on our link page that cover psychotropic medications. She should read them all even the ones not specifically for antidepressants. These drugs can cause huge changes in the body and mind that may take years to recover from. I do hope that she came off this medication with a gradual taper. They common prescribing info is that they are not habit forming. This is not true. They are very habit forming but different from craving an opiate or something. One Pharma company is being sued for this falsehood. Please s and take a good look at some of what these drugs can do to you. Frank Gettingwell, " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > I have a friend who has gotten herself off Zoloft and is > experiencing protein cravings. Anyone have any thoughts on this? > She is also prone to migraines & is getting some now which she feels > may be due to her withdrawal from Zoloft. Any thoughts on that? > She is very poor & can't afford to do anything expensive. > > Alobar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2002 To Alobar and Others, Here is a clickable link to go to our links page to find the psychotropic drug resources or many other things also: Gettingwell/links You may have to sign in with your ID. (upper right hand corner) Frank Gettingwell, " califpacific " <califpacific> wrote: > > Hi Alobar, > > Yes, the craving for protein is quite common when coming off these > medications. There are so many symptoms involved and this drug > affects almost all systems of the body it is hard to know what is > causing what. > > These type of drugs are very dangerous even though they are widely > prescribed. > > There are 4 or 5 links on our link page that cover psychotropic > medications. She should read them all even the ones not specifically > for antidepressants. > > These drugs can cause huge changes in the body and mind that may take > years to recover from. > > I do hope that she came off this medication with a gradual taper. > > They common prescribing info is that they are not habit forming. This > is not true. They are very habit forming but different from craving > an opiate or something. One Pharma company is being sued for this > falsehood. > > Please s and take a good look at some of what these > drugs can do to you. > > Frank > > > Gettingwell, " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > > I have a friend who has gotten herself off Zoloft and is > > experiencing protein cravings. Anyone have any thoughts on this? > > She is also prone to migraines & is getting some now which she feels > > may be due to her withdrawal from Zoloft. Any thoughts on that? > > She is very poor & can't afford to do anything expensive. > > > > Alobar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
