Guest guest Posted September 27, 1999 Report Share Posted September 27, 1999 I did have a patient with MS. Acupuncture was very helpful to her in terms of preventing urine retention, back pain and leg spasms as well as with stamina and emotional stability. I also had her on an herbal formula for maintenance between treatments. I don't think changes on MRI's are necessary to measure progress - the patient is more concerned with day-to-day symptom improvement. Christine Giannini, L.Ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 I have a theory about MS being a basic believer in mind over matter after listening to Annette Funicello and speaking with a woman who was in the last stages of it....she said she knew how she got it....she was a compulsive house cleaner. Annette claims to have deep down resentment towards Disney and a psych doctor who told her she was too sweet. My theory is is that it evolves from a headstrong desire to do what one thinks is good and right surpassing the will. A case of Martha and Mary syndrome. Annette was never able to realize her own indoctrinated attitude andbelief which more than likely was the reason Disney selected her was in fact her downfall and instead raged a campaign of abuse andwomens rights. The other woman I met, although she knew she was also so very proud of her clean house for her grandkids and would prpbably do it al over again. I have read in The Course in Miracles that the main reason we do not heal is just that, that we will go back and do thesame thing. My suggesstion therefore is more humility, submission to self and being a little more laid back. Some of us tend to put our foot down in the wrong place for the wrong reason and believe me I am guilty of that as well. I often want to do something for all sorts of socially and emotionally responsible reasons while another voice inside me is saying " no " and it seems as though that voice is an enemy out to defeat me and I want to rail against it feeling resentful. There are other more important issues at hand not even yet conscious or not being taken seriously. It is important to have faith at this time and trust that our values need readjusting. Mary Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Hi Mary, MS has been discussed a bit on medical intuitive Caroline Myss' Discussion Forums: http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum3/HTML/000090.html http://205.253.22.104/board/Noncgi/Forum4/HTML/000052.html Sounds like you have an intuitive hit, Mary Anne. For instance in " The Creation of Health " (p. 230), Caroline Myss says: " Most commonly, MS is created as a result of warehousing of resentment and fear regarding how well an individual feels he or she has been prepared for the demands of living as an adult in the world. Dependency is a major issue; specifically, the individual has not completed the dependency phase of childhood and is overwhelmed at the prospect of taking responsibility for his or her life. " MS can develop at any age, but Caroline sites an emotional situation that puts the disease in motion: " a situation that demands greater responsibility from the person coupled with feelings of inadequacy that are much stronger than ordinary insecurities " The adult resents his/her childlike fears and begins the process of attacking oneself. " The pattern of neglect experienced during the years of childhood is thus now repeated with oneself as the target of neglect and resentment. " Caroline says even in those with MS that had supportive childhoods (the few she has seen), the individual has a pronounced fear of failing in his/her adult responsibilities. Many blessings, MichelleH > > Mary Anne Haas [musical] > I have a theory about MS being a basic believer in mind > over matter after listening to Annette Funicello and > speaking with a woman who was in the last stages of > it....she said she knew how she got it....she was a > compulsive house cleaner. Annette claims to have deep down > resentment towards Disney and a psych doctor who told her > she was too sweet. My theory is is that it evolves from a > headstrong desire to do what one thinks is good and right > surpassing the will. A case of Martha and Mary syndrome. > Annette was never able to realize her own indoctrinated > attitude andbelief which more than likely was the reason > Disney selected her was in fact her downfall and instead > raged a campaign of abuse andwomens rights. The other > woman I met, although she knew she was also so very proud > of her clean house for her grandkids and would prpbably do > it al over again. I have read in The Course in Miracles > that the main reason we do not heal is just that, that we > will go back and do thesame thing. My suggesstion > therefore is more humility, submission to self and being a > little more laid back. Some of us tend to put our foot > down in the wrong place for the wrong reason and believe me > I am guilty of that as well. I often want to do something > for all sorts of socially and emotionally responsible > reasons while another voice inside me is saying " no " and it > seems as though that voice is an enemy out to defeat me and > I want to rail against it feeling resentful. There are > other more important issues at hand not even yet conscious > or not being taken seriously. It is important to have > faith at this time and trust that our values need readjusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Hi Mary Anne - I am somewhat impolitely jumping in to the conversation but have known several MS patients and noticed something about them, too -- they ARE headstrong, strongwilled people and they all are or were smokers! One woman smoked incessantly, another man, who was an executive was a heavy smoker. They were both also driven, ambitious people -- something like what you suggest. Just thought I'd testify to your observations. John. D. Cross Independent Technology Consultant http://www.handtech.com/cross Mary Anne Haas <musical Monday, September 04, 2000 12:58 PM re:MS > >I have a theory about MS being a basic believer in mind over matter after listening to Annette Funicello and speaking with a woman who was in the last stages of it....she said she knew how she got it....she was a compulsive house cleaner. Annette claims to have deep down resentment towards Disney and a psych doctor who told her she was too sweet. My theory is is that it evolves from a headstrong desire to do what one thinks is good and right surpassing the will. A case of Martha and Mary syndrome. Annette was never able to realize her own indoctrinated attitude andbelief which more than likely was the reason Disney selected her was in fact her downfall and instead raged a campaign of abuse andwomens rights. The other woman I met, although she knew she was also so very proud of her clean house for her grandkids and would prpbably do it al over again. I have read in The Course in Miracles that the main reason we do not heal is just that, that we will go back and do thesame thing. My suggesstion therefor > >Mary Anne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Hi all, Speaking as a person who had MS for over 13 years ... I thought we were moving away from the position of strictly blaming the victim and this would go for all conditions including cancer, aids, tumours, ALS, etc. as they all come from similar places and I could quote similar material but don't see the value. In my spiritual pyschotherapy program they teach that the thinking in this field is shifting that today they see there are more factors involved. As far as John Cross's post I thought it was absolutely idiotic. Karen - John Cross <john Monday, September 04, 2000 8:39 PM Re: re:MS > Hi Mary Anne - I am somewhat impolitely jumping in to the conversation but > have known several MS patients and noticed something about them, too -- they > ARE headstrong, strongwilled people and they all are or were smokers! One > woman smoked incessantly, another man, who was an executive was a heavy > smoker. They were both also driven, ambitious people -- something like what > you suggest. > > Just thought I'd testify to your observations. > > John. D. Cross > Independent Technology Consultant > http://www.handtech.com/cross > > > Mary Anne Haas <musical > > Monday, September 04, 2000 12:58 PM > re:MS > > > > > >I have a theory about MS being a basic believer in mind over matter after > listening to Annette Funicello and speaking with a woman who was in the last > stages of it....she said she knew how she got it....she was a compulsive > house cleaner. Annette claims to have deep down resentment towards Disney > and a psych doctor who told her she was too sweet. My theory is is that it > evolves from a headstrong desire to do what one thinks is good and right > surpassing the will. A case of Martha and Mary syndrome. Annette was never > able to realize her own indoctrinated attitude andbelief which more than > likely was the reason Disney selected her was in fact her downfall and > instead raged a campaign of abuse andwomens rights. The other woman I met, > although she knew she was also so very proud of her clean house for her > grandkids and would prpbably do it al over again. I have read in The Course > in Miracles that the main reason we do not heal is just that, that we will > go back and do thesame thing. My suggesstion therefor > > > >Mary Anne > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Hi Janie and others, As far as MS what worked for me was working on emotions .... my condition was totally driven by my emotions which would then manifest physically ... the diet and supplements were a pretty minor part of my journey. It was working with a specialized kinesiolgist especially the PKP www.icpkp.com, One Brain www.foundus.com/onebrain systems ... I was able to quickly [about a year and a half] move through my stuff to the point that the disease is no longer in my body. These 2 systems are really powerful for moving through emotional issues and its done in a very gentle, affirming, and honouring way. I also have a friend with MS whose condition is similar ... she used Brain Gym www.braingym.org, Touch for Health www.tfh.org, and another key tool for her was Polarity Therapy www.polaritytherapy.org and she has made amazing strides. In looking for a practitioner you can always email the site and ask them to recommend a couple who live in your area ... if you happen to live in Ontario you can always email me and I can suggest a couple who you could connect with. Karen " One can never consent to creep when one feels an impulse to soar " - Helen Keller ======== Hi Karen, Oh, please share the website url and other info about this with the list. I have a friend who has MS and she has tried everything for it and other things that have come up as a result. I feel she just hasn't yet hit on the right modality for her. Karen Johnson wrote: > What helped me, and my condition was totally > connected to my emotions, was seeing a specialized kinesiologist ... -- Janie Walk softly, Live gently ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Usui Reiki and Seichem Classes In person - New Jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 I am sorry to have troubled you. While it struck you as idiotic my post is true though. i only mentioned two of the patients. Still from a scientific point of view - it would have to be considered how many thousands of people with MS are not like that. Karen - you have raised a good point and deserve an apology. It's kind of like the uncertainty principle - when you start experimenting you start influencing the results of the experiment. I guess I fell victim to seeing a pattern that I wanted to see. I apologize. It is certainly no fun to have MS and then, in addition, have to feel to blame for it. Still - while treatment may be moving away from the concept - we all do have within us powerful healing forces. If we don't call upon them, we eclipse an important part of the process of recovery or remission. In other words - to acknowledge other factors is valid. To do the best you can to heal yourself is also valid. john cross Karen Johnson <kjohn Monday, September 04, 2000 9:02 PM Re: re:MS > >Hi all, >Speaking as a person who had MS for over 13 years ... I thought we were >moving away from the position of strictly blaming the victim and this would >go for all conditions including cancer, aids, tumours, ALS, etc. as they all >come from similar places and I could quote similar material but don't see >the value. In my spiritual pyschotherapy program they teach that the >thinking in this field is shifting that today they see there are more >factors involved. > >As far as John Cross's post I thought it was absolutely idiotic. > >Karen > > >- >John Cross <john > >Monday, September 04, 2000 8:39 PM >Re: re:MS > >> Hi Mary Anne - I am somewhat impolitely jumping in to the conversation but >> have known several MS patients and noticed something about them, too -- >they > ARE headstrong, strongwilled people and they all are or were smokers! >One >> woman smoked incessantly, another man, who was an executive was a heavy >> smoker. They were both also driven, ambitious people -- something like >what > you suggest. >> >> Just thought I'd testify to your observations. >> >> John. D. Cross >> Independent Technology Consultant >> http://www.handtech.com/cross > >> >> >> Mary Anne Haas <musical >> >> Monday, September 04, 2000 12:58 PM >> re:MS >> >> >> > >> >I have a theory about MS being a basic believer in mind over matter after >> listening to Annette Funicello and speaking with a woman who was in the >last >> stages of it....she said she knew how she got it....she was a compulsive >> house cleaner. Annette claims to have deep down resentment towards Disney >> and a psych doctor who told her she was too sweet. My theory is is that >it >> evolves from a headstrong desire to do what one thinks is good and right >> surpassing the will. A case of Martha and Mary syndrome. Annette was >never >> able to realize her own indoctrinated attitude andbelief which more than >> likely was the reason Disney selected her was in fact her downfall and >> instead raged a campaign of abuse andwomens rights. The other woman I >met, >> although she knew she was also so very proud of her clean house for her >> grandkids and would prpbably do it al over again. I have read in The >Course >> in Miracles that the main reason we do not heal is just that, that we will >> go back and do thesame thing. My suggesstion therefor >> > >> >Mary Anne >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Mary Anne, your theory about resentment or some repressed emotion relates to every disease not just MS and this theory - Mary Anne Haas <musical Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:48 AM MS > Karen, I think you proved my point. It was your emotions and you successfully found a comfprtable way to release them. You have healed because you have made an internal decision to see things differently being that you and your body are now cleared. > > Mary Anne -- I have a theory about MS being a basic believer in mind over matter after listening to Annette Funicello and speaking with a woman who was in the last stages of it....she said she knew how she got it....she was a compulsive house cleaner. Annette claims to have deep down resentment towards Disney and a psych doctor who told her she was too sweet. My theory is is that it evolves from a headstrong desire to do what one thinks is good and right surpassing the will. A case of Martha and Mary syndrome. Annette was never able to realize her own indoctrinated attitude andbelief which more than likely was the reason Disney selected her was in fact her downfall and instead raged a campaign of abuse andwomens rights. The other woman I met, although she knew she was also so very proud of her clean house for her grandkids and would prpbably do it al over again. I have read in The Course in Miracles that the main reason we do not heal is just that, that we will go back and do thesame thing. My suggesstion therefore is more humility, submission to self and being a little more laid back. Some of us tend to put our foot down in the wrong place for the wrong reason and believe me I am guilty of that as well. I often want to do something for all sorts of socially and emotionally responsible reasons while another voice inside me is saying " no " and it seems as though that voice is an enemy out to defeat me and I want to rail against it feeling resentful. There are other more important issues at hand not even yet conscious or not being taken seriously. It is important to have faith at this time and trust that our values need readjusting. Mary Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2001 Report Share Posted March 2, 2001 This is from Dr. Weil's website: Multiple Sclerosis This is one of the most baffling of all diseases because we understand so little of its causes and the factors that influence its course and outcome. The immediate problem is localized inflammatory damage to the sheaths surrounding nerve fibers, resulting in interference with the conduction of nerve impulses and disturbance of body functions. Typical symptoms are loss of vision, motor strength, coordination, and bowel and bladder control. Although the immune system is certainly the agent of the nerve damage, multiple sclerosis does not look like a simple matter of autoimmunity. Researchers have long suspected viral involvement, suggesting, for example, that the measles virus may somehow trigger the immune reaction. That does not explain why multiple sclerosis is most common in northern latitudes and rare near the equator. Medical science also cannot explain why the disease takes so many different forms. Some people have transient symptoms at the onset and are never bothered again for the rest of their lives. Others experience alternating cycles of intense disturbance and remission. Still others go rapidly downhill to disability and death. Conventional medicine now has a specific treatment for one form of MS, beta-interferon, but this drug is scarce and expensive, produces side effects, and is far from a sure thing. In most cases, medicine has little or nothing to offer victims of this disease once the diagnosis is made. It may even do harm by giving patients a sense of hopelessness and incurability. I consider multiple sclerosis a fascinating and challenging condition to work with because it is so variable, because it has significant potential to stabilize or go into remission, and because lifestyle modification and stress reduction can strongly affect its course. When I see new patients with this diagnosis, I give them long lists of suggestions to experiment with. Do not stay in treatment with doctors who make you feel you cannot get better. That kind of negative suggestion can have disastrous effects on your health. Stay away from caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco. All of them can complicate your problems by their effects on the nervous system and on the gastrointestinal and urinary tracts. Eat very little protein. Avoid milk and all milk products. If constipation is a problem, take acidophilus culture; and psyllium. See constipation. Avoid all polyunsaturated oils. Use only extra virgin olive oil and cold-pressed canola oil. Take black currant oil, 500 milligrams twice a day. Eat sardines at least three times a week; or take supplemental linseed oil as sources of omega-3 fatty acids. Take the antioxidant vitamin formula; and a B-100 B-complex vitamin supplement daily. Take a multimineral supplement once a day. Take soy lecithin granules, 5 grams a day. Keep this product in the refrigerator. Take coenzyme Q (Co-Q-10), 30 milligrams two or three times a day. Be sure to exercise regularly. Pick aerobic activities that you can manage, and do not push yourself to the point of exhaustion. Use visualization, meditation, and hypnotherapy to redirect your mental energies in positive directions. Find out about possible benefits of apitherapy beesting treatment. Honeybee venom contains a number of powerful anti-inflammatory compounds that may help induce remission in auto-immunity. One of them, apamin, is under investigation in France as a possible new treatment for MS. Purified bee venom is avail-able for injection, but many apitherapists prefer to apply living bees to the body. In experienced hands the procedure is quite safe. The best way to find out about this therapy is to consult a local bee-keeper. Try a variety of healing methods to see if they improve your condition: acupuncture, physical therapy, manipulation, yoga, and so on, but beware of questionable practitioners selling " cures. " Get to know some people who have multiple sclerosis and are doing well with it. They can inspire you to take more responsibility for your own health. Take good care and have a great day. Love, Renee and Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2001 Report Share Posted March 2, 2001 Something very important to keep in mind is that Aspartame poisoning mimics MS symptoms, but is reversible. If you drink lots of diet soda and use other products with nutrasweet in them, you probably need to eliminate them from your diet. Most people don't realize how dangerous a product this is. Use this step in part of your recovery therapy too. Lisa herbal remedies, rja86@w... wrote: > This is from Dr. Weil's website: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2001 Report Share Posted March 2, 2001 herbal remedies, lisa.coleman@p... wrote: > Something very important to keep in mind is that Aspartame poisoning > mimics MS symptoms, but is reversible. > > If you drink lots of diet soda and use other products with nutrasweet > in them, you probably need to eliminate them from your diet. Most > people don't realize how dangerous a product this is. > > Use this step in part of your recovery therapy too. > > Lisa > > > herbal remedies, rja86@w... wrote: > > This is from Dr. Weil's website: > > Lisa, I usually dont drink sodas or use artificial sweatners. I stay away from them. I wish it were true. They have been testing me for a year now. And after the spinal tap proved it they started the treatments. I feel better and not much pain just need to get throught the next 3 days. The stuff they have me doing is forcing me into remission. During the past year I have tried very hard to keep taking all my herbs and vitamins. It helped a lot but I need to use the a treatment to keep me in remission since I am so young (32). My mother has the same MS and didnt get diagnosed for 6 yrs and she is in the progressive stages now. It was to late to do the treatment I am on but she is on the shots and I will start those in a few months. My doctor also recommended to me to take herbal treatments and do my research. That is why I asked all you wonderful knowledgable people here. Sorry if my grammer is out of wack im not myself these days. Thanks again for the information that is good to know for future reference. Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 Gina, ALso very important is to not have any chemicals or cleaners in the house, including personal care items. Buy organic toxic & carcinagen free products. Jamie - <snglybugster <herbal remedies > Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:13 PM [herbal remedies] Re: MS herbal remedies, lisa.coleman@p... wrote: > Something very important to keep in mind is that Aspartame poisoning > mimics MS symptoms, but is reversible. > > If you drink lots of diet soda and use other products with nutrasweet > in them, you probably need to eliminate them from your diet. Most > people don't realize how dangerous a product this is. > > Use this step in part of your recovery therapy too. > > Lisa > > > herbal remedies, rja86@w... wrote: > > This is from Dr. Weil's website: > > Lisa, I usually dont drink sodas or use artificial sweatners. I stay away from them. I wish it were true. They have been testing me for a year now. And after the spinal tap proved it they started the treatments. I feel better and not much pain just need to get throught the next 3 days. The stuff they have me doing is forcing me into remission. During the past year I have tried very hard to keep taking all my herbs and vitamins. It helped a lot but I need to use the a treatment to keep me in remission since I am so young (32). My mother has the same MS and didnt get diagnosed for 6 yrs and she is in the progressive stages now. It was to late to do the treatment I am on but she is on the shots and I will start those in a few months. My doctor also recommended to me to take herbal treatments and do my research. That is why I asked all you wonderful knowledgable people here. Sorry if my grammer is out of wack im not myself these days. Thanks again for the information that is good to know for future reference. Gina Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy ian_shillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2001 Report Share Posted March 7, 2001 herbal remedies, " SPARERIBAZ " <spareribaz@M...> wrote: > Gina, > > ALso very important is to not have any chemicals or cleaners in the house, > including personal care items. > > Buy organic toxic & carcinagen free products. > > Jamie Jamie, I'm sorry it has taken me so long to write back. I started IV treatments and they have made me sick. I am on a metal detox right now. I try to make my own cleaners. My business I own is a soap business so I make most of my own cleaners. I use Orange EO for a lot of things and vinegar to clean a lot of my stuff. It works great and smells great. I am trying to learn all that I can about this disease and how I can treat it naturally. I know to keep in remission I need to keep up my treatments but that I can avoid taking all the medications by taking natural treatments. I am researching daily on ways to do this. I find asking lots of questions really help as well. Thanks for the advice. I aprreciate it. Gina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Greetings! I would like to hear about a cure or prevention for MS as both myself and my husband have family members with it. Thanks! Jen --- " Dee Bire " <moyanor wrote: Just a little note: in case if anyone was wondering if there is a cure or prevention for MS, there is. I'll be glad to share the information. Deb. ___________ <p align= " center " >________________________<br> Get your own iPaganMail @ <a href= " http://mailbox.ipagan.net " >mailbox.ipagan.net</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Dear Jen, I would like to share an insight on MS and then offer you what could be a significant solution. Here is the insight. Viruses From The MS Information Sourcebook, produced by the National MS Society. Many people with MS ask if their disease was caused by a virus or other infectious agent. Much research has focused on trying to answer to this question. It is tempting to speculate on a viral cause for MS because viruses are known to cause demyelinating disease in animals and humans. Demyelination, destruction of myelin—the fatty sheath the surrounds and insulates nerve fibers in the central nervous system, causes nerve impulses to be slowed or halted and produces the symptoms of MS. Data from epidemiological studies—those that analyze variations in geographical, socioeconomic, genetic, and other factors—suggest that exposure to an infectious agent may be involved in causing MS. Some viruses are known to have a long latency period between time of infection and appearance of clinical symptoms, as is thought to be the case in multiple sclerosis. No Definitive to Link Any One Virus to MS Although many different viruses have been implicated in causing MS, there has not yet been definitive proof to link any one virus to the autoimmune reaction that is believed to be the process responsible for the demyelination seen in MS. At one time or another, canine distemper virus, measles virus, herpes virus (HHV-6), rubella (or German measles) virus, HTLV-1 virus, and others have been reported to be associated with MS. With the exception of HHV-6, later studies have not substantiated these reports, and there is no proof that any of them causes MS. Looking at the Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) In 2003, a study suggested that increased levels of immune antibodies that fight Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV)—the very common virus that causes infectious mononucleosis and other disorders—may be associated with an increased risk of developing MS (Ascherio A et al., Journal of the American Medical Association, March 26, 2003). Although no causal relationship was established between EBV and multiple sclerosis, the researchers found that in spite of the fact that virtually all of the study participants, with and with out MS, had early exposure to this virus, the antibodies to EBV were consistently higher in those individuals who subsequently developed MS than in the control group that did not develop MS. Furthermore, the risk of developing MS increased with increasing levels of antibodies. Increased antibodies to many different viruses have been found in the sera and cerebrospinal fluid of people with MS. This may not necessarily represent disease-causing infection by these viruses. It is more is likely to be the result of non-specific immune activation. The role of a virus as a causative or triggering agent of MS remains speculative. MS Is Not Contagious Currently, there is no evidence at all to suggest that MS is infectious or contagious. The role of a virus or viruses, if there is one, affects only people with a genetic predisposition to develop MS. Now here is the possible solution. Please know that it is not simply that I am selling something, because though I am, what I offer to you is a blessing in the disguise of a product. Please visit this web site and download the book. http://www.freeherpesbook.com/default.jsp?sourceID=N2uk3zW6x34cYB8 HHV-6 is simply one strain of the Herpes virus. If anyone has either had chicken pox or been given the chicken pox vaccination, they have Herpes viruses of one strain or another within their body. I am personally aware of individuals whose lives have been significantly transformed when challenged by that about which you have inquired. Please understand that that which the American Indians call the mother of all plants and has been carbon dated at 18,000 years, has a range of efficacy that spans all known viruses from HIV to Herpes. I am available at DrSABrown or at 860-295-1072 Much Love in Spirit, Stephen Avalon Seeker [NightRain]Monday, January 12, 2004 10:37 PM Subject: Re: MSGreetings!I would like to hear about a cure or prevention for MS as both myself and my husband have family members with it.Thanks!Jen--- "Dee Bire" <moyanor wrote:Just a little note: in case if anyone was wondering if there is a cure or prevention for MS, there is. I'll be glad to share the information. Deb. ___________<p align="center">________________________<br>Get your own iPaganMail @ <a href="http://mailbox.ipagan.net">mailbox.ipagan.net</a></p>********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Try http://health.edgarcaycestreatments/ , Avalon Seeker <NightRain@e...> wrote: > Greetings! > > I would like to hear about a cure or prevention for MS as both myself and my husband have family members with it. > > Thanks! > > Jen > > > --- " Dee Bire " <moyanor> wrote: > Just a little note: in case if anyone > was wondering if there is a cure or prevention for MS, there is. I'll > be glad to share the information. Deb. > > > > > ___________ > <p align= " center " >________________________<br> > Get your own iPaganMail @ <a href= " http://mailbox.ipagan.net " >mailbox.ipagan.net</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Thank you to everyone who responded my question in regards to MS. ~ Jen --- " Dinesh " <dinesh5015 wrote: Try http://health.edgarcaycestreatments/ , Avalon Seeker <NightRain@e...> wrote: > Greetings! > > I would like to hear about a cure or prevention for MS as both myself and my husband have family members with it. > > Thanks! > > Jen > > > --- " Dee Bire " <moyanor> wrote: > Just a little note: in case if anyone > was wondering if there is a cure or prevention for MS, there is. I'll > be glad to share the information. Deb. > > > > > ___________ > <p align= " center " >________________________<br> > Get your own iPaganMail @ <a href= " http://mailbox.ipagan.net " >mailbox.ipagan.net</a></p> ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://www./members_add _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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