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HI,

 

I had chronic fatique syndrome for several years. I'm now better

----thank God---and find I do much better if I do not eat wheat. Does

anyone know much about wheat allergies? Could there be a connection?

 

Celeste

 

On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:36:9 -0700 " Lilla Luoma " <lillabell

writes:

>

>

> Hi Dani, can't help on the web sites, but wondering if

> you've tried any dietary changes to help with these problems? I have

> had some of

> these same things, and by making certain changes they have gone away

> (like

> eliminating wheat and dairy products, getting the right supplements,

> regular

> exercise, etc.)

>

> --Lilla

>

>

>

> ...About a thousand years ago (so it seems) I was very

> involved in all

>

> sorts of yoga, breathing techniques, meditation,

> etc. I became ill

>

> while living in Brazil, returned to

> USA. I have had chronic fatigue

>

> syndrome and have mostly been

> home for years. Ten months ago I got

>

> fibromyalgia and the pain of

> that has kept me virtually bedbound.

>

> --- Lilla

> Luoma

>

> --- lillabell

>

> For great low cost vitamins check out the Generic Co-op (a site

> (sight)

> with heart)

>

> http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/aftrack.asp?AFID=12054

>

> Free supplements to cancer patients and the poor.

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

 

This describes me but I'm not " O " blood type. ??? Interesting theory,

though.

 

Celeste

 

On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:55:56 -0400 Connie Lasorso <tink-im

writes:

> Hi Celeste:

> I'm so glad your feeling better. Many people have allergies to

> wheat, but

> the most recent info aside from allergies that I have heard is in

> the " Eat

> Right 4 Your Type " book, which talks about the type " 0 " blood type

> who

> cannot handle wheat products because it acts nearly like a glu in

> thier

> systems. He talks quite alot about it in this book. You may find it

> interesting. He also stresses that type " 0 " 's are the only type who

> can

> handle eating meat, others don't do as well with meat in thier

> diets.

> I found the book very interesting, especially from an anthrapologic

> point of

> view of how the different blood types evolved thru history. Type

> " 0 " being

> the oldest, and AB the newest.

> As far as specific allergies, I guess you can be allergic to just

> about

> anything, including yourself. Glad you figured out what was true

> for you.

> love,

> connie

>

> (I love everybody, and YOUR NEXT!)

>

>

> www.whateverworkswellness.com

>

> WhateverWorksWellness

>

>

> > celeste m sullivan <csull3

> >

> > Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:16:03 -0500

> >

> > Re: Intro and question

> >

> > HI,

> >

> > I had chronic fatique syndrome for several years. I'm now better

> > ----thank God---and find I do much better if I do not eat wheat.

> Does

> > anyone know much about wheat allergies? Could there be a

> connection?

> >

> > Celeste

> >

> > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:36:9 -0700 " Lilla Luoma "

> <lillabell

> > writes:

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi Dani, can't help on the web sites, but wondering if

> >> you've tried any dietary changes to help with these problems? I

> have

> >> had some of

> >> these same things, and by making certain changes they have gone

> away

> >> (like

> >> eliminating wheat and dairy products, getting the right

> supplements,

> >> regular

> >> exercise, etc.)

> >>

> >> --Lilla

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ...About a thousand years ago (so it seems) I was very

> >> involved in all

> >>

> >> sorts of yoga, breathing techniques, meditation,

> >> etc. I became ill

> >>

> >> while living in Brazil, returned to

> >> USA. I have had chronic fatigue

> >>

> >> syndrome and have mostly been

> >> home for years. Ten months ago I got

> >>

> >> fibromyalgia and the pain of

> >> that has kept me virtually bedbound.

> >>

> >> --- Lilla

> >> Luoma

> >>

> >> --- lillabell

> >>

> >> For great low cost vitamins check out the Generic Co-op (a site

> >> (sight)

> >> with heart)

> >>

> >> http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/aftrack.asp?AFID=12054

> >>

> >> Free supplements to cancer patients and the poor.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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Dani:

 

Have you done a Google search for the keywords you mentioned, to see

if anyone has audiovisual samples for Feldenkreis or Alexander? I

don't know of any audiovisual materials for Reiki, but I do know of

several sites that give distant attunements, and that would be a good

beginning for you if you don't have a Reiki Master near you to do the

attunements in person (which I always prefer).

 

Where is the site you mentioned, with the mini videos of meditations

and aromatherapy, etc? You did not send a link.

 

(Offside to Karyn... this looks like a call for more audio offerings

from your instructors at Seekers Circle, eh? I am sure there are other

folks here who might consider doing something similar with their

meditations or techniques for introduction purposes... how about your

husband's Tai Chi, Connie?)

 

Blessings,

Crow

 

, ah-ha@m... wrote:

>

> This great group got my juices flowing and I found these mini videos

>

> on-line. They are about Qi Gong, aromatherapy, meditations, etc.

>

> This has really helped as I am not in a position to be buying this

>

> stuff! By the way, you need to download realplayer, then go to the

>

> health section and select your subject.

>

> My question is does anyone know of any other sites on-line where one

>

> can see videos like these? They are just samples, so they can get

>

> you to buy the actual video. I would love to find sites where I can

>

> practice Feldenkrais, the Alexander technique, learn Reiki, etc. Any

>

> suggestions would be appreciated! By the way the reason I'm looking

>

> for video or audios is because I have vertigo, too, and get dizzy

>

> when I am reading from the monitor.

>

> Warmly,

>

> Dani

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Hi Dani, can't help on the web sites, but wondering if

you've tried any dietary changes to help with these problems? I have had some of

these same things, and by making certain changes they have gone away (like

eliminating wheat and dairy products, getting the right supplements, regular

exercise, etc.)

 

--Lilla

 

 

 

....About a thousand years ago (so it seems) I was very

involved in all

 

sorts of yoga, breathing techniques, meditation,

etc. I became ill

 

while living in Brazil, returned to

USA. I have had chronic fatigue

 

syndrome and have mostly been

home for years. Ten months ago I got

 

fibromyalgia and the pain of

that has kept me virtually bedbound.

 

--- Lilla

Luoma

 

--- lillabell

 

For great low cost vitamins check out the Generic Co-op (a site (sight)

with heart)

 

http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/aftrack.asp?AFID=12054

 

Free supplements to cancer patients and the poor.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Celeste:

I'm so glad your feeling better. Many people have allergies to wheat, but

the most recent info aside from allergies that I have heard is in the " Eat

Right 4 Your Type " book, which talks about the type " 0 " blood type who

cannot handle wheat products because it acts nearly like a glu in thier

systems. He talks quite alot about it in this book. You may find it

interesting. He also stresses that type " 0 " 's are the only type who can

handle eating meat, others don't do as well with meat in thier diets.

I found the book very interesting, especially from an anthrapologic point of

view of how the different blood types evolved thru history. Type " 0 " being

the oldest, and AB the newest.

As far as specific allergies, I guess you can be allergic to just about

anything, including yourself. Glad you figured out what was true for you.

love,

connie

 

(I love everybody, and YOUR NEXT!)

 

 

www.whateverworkswellness.com

 

WhateverWorksWellness

 

 

> celeste m sullivan <csull3

>

> Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:16:03 -0500

>

> Re: Intro and question

>

> HI,

>

> I had chronic fatique syndrome for several years. I'm now better

> ----thank God---and find I do much better if I do not eat wheat. Does

> anyone know much about wheat allergies? Could there be a connection?

>

> Celeste

>

> On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:36:9 -0700 " Lilla Luoma " <lillabell

> writes:

>>

>>

>> Hi Dani, can't help on the web sites, but wondering if

>> you've tried any dietary changes to help with these problems? I have

>> had some of

>> these same things, and by making certain changes they have gone away

>> (like

>> eliminating wheat and dairy products, getting the right supplements,

>> regular

>> exercise, etc.)

>>

>> --Lilla

>>

>>

>>

>> ...About a thousand years ago (so it seems) I was very

>> involved in all

>>

>> sorts of yoga, breathing techniques, meditation,

>> etc. I became ill

>>

>> while living in Brazil, returned to

>> USA. I have had chronic fatigue

>>

>> syndrome and have mostly been

>> home for years. Ten months ago I got

>>

>> fibromyalgia and the pain of

>> that has kept me virtually bedbound.

>>

>> --- Lilla

>> Luoma

>>

>> --- lillabell

>>

>> For great low cost vitamins check out the Generic Co-op (a site

>> (sight)

>> with heart)

>>

>> http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/aftrack.asp?AFID=12054

>>

>> Free supplements to cancer patients and the poor.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Celeste,

<<and find I do much better if I do not eat wheat. Does

anyone know much about wheat allergies? >>

Just musing....

Bread, the staple of life. A faith that every day we will be given our every

need.

Do we dare to accept it?

Love and Light, Ninox

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Hi Celeste/Lilli:

I think yo'll find this story interesting:

http://www.celiac.com/celiac_story.html

rusty

 

celeste m sullivan <csull3

Monday, June 18, 2001 8:51 PM

Re: Intro and question

 

 

>HI,

>

>I had chronic fatique syndrome for several years. I'm now better

>----thank God---and find I do much better if I do not eat wheat.

Does

>anyone know much about wheat allergies? Could there be a connection?

>

>Celeste

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  • 5 months later...

When you mention CFS, you open a can of worms. I'm constantly investigating

this phenomenon, both on the Internet and in person with various associates

and clients. There is an excellent one-way research list, which is

international and has provided a great deal of useful information. A lot of

that information is highly technical -- i've often had to grab the medical

dictionary when reading posts.

 

In general, no herbs have consistently proven to be effective against CFS.

That's probably because CFS does not appear to be a single condition with a

single point of origin. Also, many of us, myself included, believe that a

large number of these cases had an environmental origin. It is probable

that many of these cases involve complex interactions between chemicals and

individual metabolic reactions. Therefore, any help or cure would have to

be highly individualized.

 

At 08:39 PM 11/21/01 -0500, you wrote:

>Greetings everyone. My name is Clove and I am so happy to have found the

>list. From what I have seen come thru my inbox today, you all are awesome.

>I hope to learn much and contribute when I can. One of my working goals is

>studying to become a Master Herbalist, then onto my N.D. Keeping my fingers

>crossed that is not going to be the extreme future, but just around the

>corner.

>I do have a question that so far I have found very little info on...

>Does anyone know of any specific herbal help for chronic fatigue syndrome?

>Any info provided will be most appreciated.

>

>Happy Thanksgiving,

>Clove

>

>~We search our entire lifetimes for just a glimpse of happiness. Only a few

>dare to look within their own mirrors to find it.~ Clovism

>

-- Michael Riversong **

Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer **

RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399

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>Michael Riversong <rivedu

 

>There is an excellent one-way research list, which is

>international and has provided a great deal of useful information. A lot

>of

>that information is highly technical -- i've often had to grab the medical

>dictionary when reading posts.

~*~*~

I would love to have the info for this list, if you wouldn't mind sending it

to me.

 

>

>In general, no herbs have consistently proven to be effective against CFS.

>That's probably because CFS does not appear to be a single condition with a

>single point of origin.

~*~*~

I would tend to agree with this. So far, I have seen it associated with

depression, hypothyroidism, and severe allergies. But my info on it has

been limited, to say the least.

 

Also, many of us, myself included, believe that a

>large number of these cases had an environmental origin. It is probable

>that many of these cases involve complex interactions between chemicals and

>individual metabolic reactions. Therefore, any help or cure would have to

>be highly individualized.

~*~*~

I would say the case I am speaking of would be a combination between

environment, depression and metabolism. She has already done a full fledge

cleanse concentrating on liver and kidneys. Just recently started taking a

B-complex along with flax seed oil for the omega-3's. I am wishing for some

improvement for her. She sees an M.D. that specializes in holistic

medicine, but so far his response to CFS is " if you need sleep, then sleep " .

And we all know that just is not fully feasible in the working world.

 

I thank you for your help

Clove

 

~We search our entire lifetimes for just a glimpse of happiness. Only a few

dare to look within their own mirrors to find it.~ Clovism

 

 

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I would say the case I am speaking of would be a combination between environment, depression and metabolism.  She has already done a full fledge cleanse concentrating on liver and kidneys.  Just recently started taking a B-complex along with flax seed oil for the omega-3's.  I am wishing for some improvement for her.  She sees an M.D. that specializes in holistic medicine, but so far his response to CFS is "if you need sleep, then sleep".   And we all know that just is not fully feasible in the working world.

 

Right ... and also after having been down this road.. not acceptable. When the first diagnosis I was given was "Chronic Mono" waaaaaaaaaaay in the beginning.... I was told.. to rest.. why? they didn't know what else to say.. When I am very toxic my CFS symptoms meaning extreme fatigue ... viral episodes and inflammation all flare-up. When I find the cause of what is poisoning my system and eliminate it.. I in turn eliminate the symptoms...and work on repair through natural healing. It is a process. I hope you read my post on CFS...and it is helpful.

Best Wishes.. Beth

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Stephanie,

 

I can't tolerate flax seed oil in any form. I've tried the oil (from three

different companies, all guaranteed re: refrigeration) and also the seeds ground

up. I know of other people as well who for some reason have bad reactions

(usually digestive). There are other sources of Omega 3, though, so you might

consider a search for those sources that might work for you.

 

Good luck,

 

Claire

 

 

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Stephanie-

 

I rarely post on the lists, but couldn't resist responding to your message. I

just want to suggest that you consider Lyme disease and be very thorough in your

investigations. Many people who do have lyme spend years misdiagnosed with all

sorts of autoimmune diseases, arthritic conditions, etc. In addition, the

testing for lyme is extremely tricky with many false negatives. I would suggest

you try to find a lyme literate physician to see, especially if your other docs

aren't giving you good answers. Rheumatologists are usually not the best

doctors to talk to about a possible lyme infection, but many patients land up

there for years. The confusion about the Parvo B19 virus, Lupus, and an

undiagnosed arthritic condition is what led me to write you regarding possible

Lyme. If you need help finding a doctor, I'm sure some of the people on the

lyme lists can help you if I can't. Just contact me off list if necessary..

 

BTW, quark and cottage cheese are not exactly the same things. Quark can be

hard to find in parts of the US, but most people taking Dr. Budwig's protocol

use low-fat cottage mixed well with their flax seed oil.

 

Good luck.

 

Lainie

 

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clownofgod

Gettingwell

Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:24 AM

Intro and Question

 

 

Hello.

 

A friend of mine suggested that I look into GettingWell, so I joined this list

about a week ago and have been reading. Figured it was time to introduce myself

and to ask for help in finding good, and hopefully positive information on

auto-immune disorders in particular.

.

 

I decided to come into the conversation at the mention of the Flax oil, which

I was taking for a week, but in a smoothie. I stopped it because of the horrible

stomach aches it caused, which lasted for hours afterward each time. Will taking

it in the cottage cheese (This is called Quark, right?) help?

Also, all helpful info on lupus type disorders would be appreciated greatly.

 

Thanks,

Stephanie

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

 

I am also new to this list, but not to the use of Flaxseed Oil and Cottage

cheese. I have now used it for eleven and a half years in combatting

cancer.

 

I have never heard of stomach trouble from the use of FO/CC but it could

happen.

 

My information on FO/CC and Lupus is that it will not cure Lupus but will

prevent damage to the kidneys or other organs.

 

I have acquired a couple of books written by Bob Barefoot, copyrighted 2002,

that give compelling evidence to me of the value of high quality Coral

Calcium in the treatment of any debilitating disease including Lupus.

 

There may be many on this list who know more about this than I do, but I am

going to learn.

 

He says that it will reverse MS if used along with other dietary

modifications.

 

With a Gettingwell list encompassing a number of approaches to health I

would love to hear of the experiences of any who are using Coral Calcium

rather heavily.

 

I can get enthusiastic about something and go off the deep end before I

really have all the facts and expereiences.

 

Cliff

 

 

 

 

-

" clownofgod " <clownofgod

 

Thursday, December 12, 2002 8:24 AM

Intro and Question

 

 

> Hello.

>

> A friend of mine suggested that I look into GettingWell, so I joined this

list about a week ago and have been reading. Figured it was time to

introduce myself and to ask for help in finding good, and hopefully positive

information on auto-immune disorders in particular.

>

> This past year, my life plans were sidetracked by what the doctors first

called a Parvo B19 virus, the Lupus, then an undiagnosed arthritic

condition. I'm awaiting more tests, and have for the time being chosen not

to take the Plaquenil (SP?) that my rheumatologist suggests for Lupus

patients, although my shins and feet are in pain continually.

> I am taking Condroitin Complex with MSM, Fish Oil caplets, SAMe, B12, and

Selenium at night. I have been taking Naproxin twice daily, but this only

deals with the symptoms so that I can function at all as a mom of three

every day.

>

> I decided to come into the conversation at the mention of the Flax oil,

which I was taking for a week, but in a smoothie. I stopped it because of

the horrible stomach aches it caused, which lasted for hours afterward each

time. Will taking it in the cottage cheese (This is called Quark, right?)

help?

> Also, all helpful info on lupus type disorders would be appreciated

greatly.

>

> Thanks,

> Stephanie

> >

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>>I can get enthusiastic about something and go off the deep end before I

really have all the facts and expereiences.

 

Cliff>>

 

I'm finding that I do that also. There is so much advice. I'm waiting to find

overlaps in information I'm reading, along with others' experience.

I'm definately looking into the calcium/cottage cheese, and also to the ground

flax instead of the oil if the stomach upset persists.

 

Thanks to all,

Stephanie

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Michelle,

Hello and welcome to the group. You might try a search under the topic of

" Arkansas Crystal Points " or something similar. I am sure you will find many

places where you can obtain them. Alos you might try typing in the names of a

few of the mines, Coleman, Sweet Surrender, etc. Good luck.

Blessings and Light,

Marilyn

 

 

 

 

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Hello Michele,

Here are some sites that i use for ordering and finding meanings behind the

stones you use. They have alot of information and some sites have a lot to

offer in ways of purchusing. Good luck and i hope that helps you out.

 

And for anyone else that is new these are very good sites to use to learn

meanings and such. Hope this helps some peoples out.

 

 

http://www.wehug.com/heart-shape-pendants-full.html

http://www.gems4friendscom/therapy.html

http://crystal-healing-necklace.com/

http://www.kacha-stones.com/

http://www.solarraven.com/crystal-entry.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/crystal_healing.html

http://www.psychic-readings.us.com/crystal-healing.htm

http://mysticalsoup.com/crystals.html

http://destined.to/pixie Reiki

http://www.majestic-quartz.com/~healing/

http://www.psychics.co.uk/crystals/

 

http://www.metastones.com/finalweb/metaphysical_uses%20of%20_stones.htm

http://www.wiccacom/celtic/stones/stonea-e.htm

http://www.journey-to-self.com/Gem%20Stones%20Glossary.htm

http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/g/gem_healing.html

http://www.massagewarehouse.com/GEM+STONE+CHAKRA+HEALING/ITEM_NO=281+0028/SHIP_T\

O_FLAG=Y/catalog.jhtml

http://www.journey-to-self.com/gem_stone%20meanings.htm

http://www.crystal-cure.com/gemstones.html

http://www.mandarava.com/Retail/Crystals.htm

http://www.gems4friendscom/therapy.html

 

Blessed be

 

Liz

 

Michele Worstell <michelew wrote:

 

Hello everyone!

 

My name is Michele Worstell and I joined the group a week or so ago. I

am a stay at home mom with 2 boys ages 6 1/2 and 3 1/2 and I have my own

home business making jewelry and I am currently reformulating my

bodycare line. I make my jewelry with gemstones and have since or even

before I started making my jewelry always had a love for crystals. I

have also started making pendulums.

 

My question is can anyone tell me where I can order the pendulum points

to make pendulums? I have found rose quartz and amethyst points but can

not locate the clear quartz crystal points, except one place in canada

and one place in Denmark. I see so many pendulums for sale but where

are they getting their points? I am stuck on this one. I tried a

couple of the links in the files section but it kept taking me to

Netscape for some reason.

 

Any advice or help will be greatly appreciated!!

Blessings

Michele Worstell

 

 

 

 

files are online at Http://www.solarraven.com/crystal-entry.html

files, photos, and message archives can be found At:

 

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Hello,

 

My name is Josie and I'm a new mommy. I developed anemia after

delivery and have been fainting periodically. I prefer not to have a

transfusion if I can figure out another solution. I've been eating

protein and iron rich foods which is helping. However, I know my body

will readjust better if it is not processing anything while trying to

heal.

 

Does anyone know where I can find more information on juice fasting

while nursing? (I have done several successful fasts in the past,

prior to becoming pregnant).

 

Thank you,

Josie

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Please DO NOT...... DO NOT fast while nursing.... your body is in a different state now it doesnt want to detox. do you want poisons in your breastmilk ?. Your metobolism is at a fast pace now and it needs alot of nurishment to make milk. its doing a job now and I suggest you eat whole grains it will help with milk production. Stay away from junk. I too was a little anemic after delivery. i was also losing alot of weight because your body burns alot of calories while you breast feed I went all the way down to 114 pounds very quickly. I also didnt have much of an appetite so when I did eat it was only healthy food. I am curious how much do you weigh... and congradulations on your precious angel........ Jennie

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Hi Jennie,

 

Thanks for responding. I'm burning a ton of calories just like you

did and have lost all my pregnancy weight. Actually, I didn't gain

that much anyway. The main problem is I bled so much during

delivery. My hemoglobin dropped to 7.1 so I am SEVERELY anemic. It

is slowly climbing, but I am passing out a few times a week. I do

eat healthy when I eat. I am in that small percentage of women who

get nauseated while nursing. I try to force myself to eat in spite

of it. I am trying to find a safe option that will help without

causing any risk to the BM supply. I also have a problem with

constipation so I have to keep a fine balance with taking the iron.

 

Thanks for the congratulations and the helpful comments. I will wait

until she is done nursing and hope I won't need a transfusion before

then.

 

Take care,

Josie

 

 

 

, jennie spooner

<jhspooner2003> wrote:

>

> Please DO NOT...... DO NOT fast while nursing.... your body is in

a different state now it doesnt want to detox. do you want poisons

in your breastmilk ?. Your metobolism is at a fast pace now and it

needs alot of nurishment to make milk. its doing a job now and I

suggest you eat whole grains it will help with milk production. Stay

away from junk. I too was a little anemic after delivery. i was also

losing alot of weight because your body burns alot of calories while

you breast feed I went all the way down to 114 pounds very quickly.

I also didnt have much of an appetite so when I did eat it was only

healthy food. I am curious how much do you weigh... and

congradulations on your precious angel........ Jennie

>

>

>

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