Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Silver made by the method described is NOT true colloidal silver. The best of the home machines, such as the Silver Puppy, produce silver that is 15% colloidal and 85% ionic. The best commercial machines, such as the one Utopia Silver uses, produce silver that is 85% colloidal silver and 15% ionic silver - and do so by an entirely different method. It all comes down to two things: Is it true colloidal silver, and if so what percentage AND what is the silver particle size. The website states: " The lab results were far better that expected. The silver particles ranged from 10.2-25.7 nanometers in size... far better than any others we had analyzed... even the Frankenstein process. " By comparison, the silver particles produced by the Utopia Silver process are as small as 0.64 nanometers with a mean average of 2 nanometers. The smaller the particle the greater the surface area of silver you get per equal PPM of silver. Think of BBs and Basketballs. How many basketballs can you fit into a 50 gallon drum? Then think of how many BBs. The combined surface area of the BBs will be hundreds or even thousands times more than the basketballs. Smaller particles are also better able to reach the cellular level of areas where the silver action is needed. Another analogy would be how many basket balls could you fit into a coffee can? Or a thimble? ANd how many BBs? oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote: > > > On reading the site below I noticed that the first paragraph contains > warnings about the dangers of ingesting too much colloidal silver. If > it is true colloidal silver, there is no such thing as overdosing. > Seems to me anybody truly knowing the value of colloidal silver would > never make these claims. Another thought that came to mind was, when > following their instructions would we truly be making the highest > quality silver? If so, why such a strong warning? > > Myself, I would opt for only three methods, Utopia Silver, Mesosilver. > or I would make it myself with the Silver Puppy. Myself, I use Utopia > Silver. The quality of the colloidal silver that we take is of the > utmost importance to our health. I prefer Utopia Silver as it is of the > finest quality and made with state of the art laser technology. > > My question would be, would using this method give me the highest > quality of colloidal silver or something less? And if it should be true > colloidal silver why the severe warning and why would they say that both > drugs and nature can hurt you in their disclaimer? Something doesn't > sit right here. > > Myself, I would opt for one of the three choices above and nothing else. > > Hugs, > > > > > > oleander soup , " Rhoda Mead " <firefly541@> > wrote: > > > > *I'm extremely impressed by colloidal silver. Never thought about it > until > > you wrote about it, Tony. > > I'm also impressed by the price! Generators are way out of my range. I > came > > across an article by Chet Day, complete with photos, on making your > own > > colloidal silver. At the bottom is a link to a well-researched article > about > > the history and properties of CS.That, I can afford. Any comments will > be > > appreciated. Rhoda > > > > http://chetday.com/colloidalsilvergenerator.htm > > > > > > * > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 You believe the FDA when more than 100,000 people die on prescribed toxic meds! In any case, the EIS is great, and I believe this man did not make it properly. I use it for my animals and myself every day. We make it correctly. The FDA still goes after stevia, I believe. LOL Need to make us sick and big corp. obscenely rich. Too each his own I guess :-D Denise Denise The FDA does not consider colloidal silver safe or effective to treat any disease or condition. In fact, taking it could have serious side effects, such as: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Just met someone who said 2 of the strongest antibiotics almost killed him (he awoke unable to breathe) for treatment of Lyme disease...he searched for an alternative and found colloidal silver. The colloidal silver worked for him and arrested debilitating Lyme! & quot;Be mindful that happiness is not based on possessions, power, or prestige, but on relationships with people you love and respect. & quot; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 I agree with you, I always have my CS on hand, am never without it and use it not only for myself but my animals as well and I " know " it works, I don't need some flawed " scientific study " to prove that. It is the mantra of the pHARMaceutical companies to " keep us sick " so that they can make their $$$$ out of us. Cheers Lyndall - " O' Conchubair " <Newfler " Alternative " Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:55 AM RE: colloidal silver You believe the FDA when more than 100,000 people die on prescribed toxic meds! In any case, the EIS is great, and I believe this man did not make it properly. I use it for my animals and myself every day. We make it correctly. The FDA still goes after stevia, I believe. LOL Need to make us sick and big corp. obscenely rich. Too each his own I guess :-D Denise Denise ---------- AVG says this computer is virus free! Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release 3/07/2008 8:32 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 There is no need to dilute colloidal silver for anything as far as I know. oleander soup , " violet1946 " <sweetviolets01 wrote: > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > >> > > > > > > Hi, could you tell me should colloidal silver be diluted > when using it put in eyes, nose, ears and etc. > > Thank you, > Violet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hi Robyn, Yes it is. You can take colloidal silver with anything. Hugs, oleander soup , robyn howell <robynehowell wrote: > > Does anyone know if colloidal silver is compliant with budwig? > Thanks, Robyn > > --- On Wed, 7/30/08, bbanever bbanever wrote: > > bbanever bbanever > Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Re: Breast cancer and oleander/ > oleander soup > Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 8:02 PM > Bonnie, > > IP6 can be given at any time... it is a natural substance made from rice bran. It is part of the recommended protocol of IP6 and oleander. CS can be used also at any time. > > - > evian793 (AT) aol (DOT) com > oleander soup > Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:00 PM > [!! SPAM] Re: Re: Breast cancer and oleander/ > > > Ok just gave Cody his dose of oleander today. Will wait an hour or so to give him the antibiotic now. > > I just hope it doesn't make him nauseous is all. I can't afford for him to get sicker during this time right now as it will be two weeks this Friday that he hasn't eaten on his own. > > Can I ask what the IP6 would do for him now? Tony has stated it's a good one for dogs but how will this work in conjunction with oleander and CS? > > Thanks and hugs, > > Bonnie & Cody > > > > > > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Hi Nicole,Let me give you the explanation found in the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol. Colloidal Silver is another must in my opinion - it has been shown to be deadly to single cell organisms and pathogens, and various cancers have been shown to have viral and/or fungal qualities, at least after they have become established. The caution with Colloidal Silver is that it may also eliminate beneficial bacteria when taken in amounts large enough to fight cancer and so it is a good idea when taking colloidal silver to also supplement with probiotics (yet another good thing to do anyway - especially after cleanses). Many recommend that colloidal silver be taken with Colloidal Gold because gold appears to enhance the silver's actions when cancer is present. Take one to two ounces or more daily while actively fighting cancer.Black cumin oil, also known as black caraway seed oil and blackseed oil, has been shown to be a potent cancer fighter and, along with oleander, it is one of the very few natural cancer fighters that have had good success against pancreatic cancer.Black cumin oil which by the way should be Nigela Sativa, builds a healthy immune system that will detect and destroy cancer cells before the cancer endangers the individual. I believe it is recommended that you take at least two to three ounces of colloidal silver daily, although, keep in mind, you cannot overdose with colloidal silver and there are no side effects.And I believe that the recommended dosage for black cumin seed oil is one teaspoon daily with meals. Keep in mind, for best results, this should be used in conjunction with Sutherlandia OPC. Sutherlandia OPC is over 90% effective against all cancers and should be included first and foremost. oleander soup , Nicole Gilbert <ngilbert4787 wrote:>> Hi.> I was just hoping I could get some information on colloidal silver and black cumin seed oil? What are they used for with regards to cancer? What is the optimal dosage and what can I expect in terms of results? Thank you in advance,> -Nicole-> > > > > ________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks Melly, I know about that. I am working on slowly building a supply of vitamins, supplements and other items to do scientific research on myself. First, though I have to see about filing for bankruptcy. I remember getting a post from someone in this group that went into detail about a " cure " for argyria. I tried to do a search, but couldn't find what I was looking for. Not all selenium is the same. I think it is difficult to get the right one. I just did a search for selenium on the group and the most recent is March 16, 2009. I just got a post a week or so ago that mention selenium. Something is wrong with . All the best to you and everyone, Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Hi Does anyone have any current thoughts about the use of colloidal silver? There seems to be great debate as to its efficacy, parts per million and type. Can anyone recommend a brand? I would like to start giving it to my family in anticopation of more swine flu passing around. What do you think? Thanks Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Hi Caroline Please be careful with this product as it is known to cause argyria. Some will say it is not possible but I have seen it happen and yes I know all about the various ppms and the size of the particles, but I have seen it happen with some of the most "reliable" brands as wellDonna-"allysonmoore2007" <ashjes1holistic-health Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 7:31:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Colloidal Silver Hi Does anyone have any current thoughts about the use of colloidal silver? There seems to be great debate as to its efficacy, parts per million and type. Can anyone recommend a brand? I would like to start giving it to my family in anticopation of more swine flu passing around. What do you think? Thanks Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Joan, Yes CS is effective against gram negative bacteria. The silver must contact the germs in some way. Bob - " Joan " <jecgsd <oleander soup > Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:55 PM colloidal silver > HI --I was just reading an article in the New York Times about the > rise of gram-negative bacteria & germs and the fact that they're even > harder to control than MERSA. Is colloidal silver effective against > them? How would you use it? Thanks = Joan > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 The article indicated gram negative bacteria named: Acinetobacter baumannii which " is a species of pathogenic bacteria which forms opportunistic infections. The germs are evolving and becoming ever more immune to existing antibiotics. " In many respects it's far worse than MRSA, " said Dr. Louis B. Rice, an infectious-disease specialist at the Louis Stokes Cleveland V.A. Medical Center and at Case Western Reserve University. " There are strains out there, and they are becoming more and more common, that are resistant to virtually every antibiotic we have. " The bacteria, classified as Gram-negative because of their reaction to the so-called Gram stain test, can cause severe pneumonia and infections of the urinary tract, bloodstream and other parts of the body. Their cell structure makes them more difficult to attack with antibiotics than Gram-positive organisms like MRSA. There have been many reports of drug-resistant A. baumannii infections among American soldiers wounded in Iraq. These 'multi-drug resistant Acinetobacter baumannii' are often referred to as MDRAB " . oleander soup , " Bob Banever " <bbanever wrote: > > Joan, > > Yes CS is effective against gram negative bacteria. The silver must > contact the germs in some way. > > Bob > - > " Joan " <jecgsd > <oleander soup > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:55 PM > colloidal silver > > > > HI --I was just reading an article in the New York Times about the > > rise of gram-negative bacteria & germs and the fact that they're even > > harder to control than MERSA. Is colloidal silver effective against > > them? How would you use it? Thanks = Joan > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Yes, MRSA is subject to colodial silver. I helped to CURE.. (yes erradicate the MRSA completely from the blood and body tissue even when the doctors told the man that " it might go into a remission state but that it would be present for the rest of his life), MRSA with bentonite clay mixed with colodial silver solution and taken by mouth, as well as being applied to the leisons... and colodial silver solution added to the water bottle so that some amount was ingested every time he took a drink of water. I used silver solution I made at home.. which when made correctly is (as far as I am able to research) as effective as anything that can be bought commercially. N oleander soup , " Bob Banever " <bbanever wrote: > > Joan, > > Yes CS is effective against gram negative bacteria. The silver must > contact the germs in some way. > > Bob > - > " Joan " <jecgsd > <oleander soup > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:55 PM > colloidal silver > > > > HI --I was just reading an article in the New York Times about the > > rise of gram-negative bacteria & germs and the fact that they're even > > harder to control than MERSA. Is colloidal silver effective against > > them? How would you use it? Thanks = Joan > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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