Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 I got this in a response to your e-mail. Thought you should take a look at it! I left all the addresses on here so you could track how it came back to me. Carol Steen - " Tammy Wardas " <ultimatefreedom " Carol Steen " <clsteen Monday, August 11, 2003 9:24 PM Fw: Assistance Sought to Wake Up Jeff Rense.... S.722 is a RED HERRING > here is a follow up on what you sent me the other night > - > " Rod Culp " <rodc7777 > " Tammy Wardas " <ultimatefreedom > Sunday, August 10, 2003 8:47 PM > Fw: Assistance Sought to Wake Up Jeff Rense.... S.722 is a RED > HERRING > > > > THOUGHT THIS MAY BE OF INTEREST............Rod....... > > > > > > - > > " IAHF.COM " <jham > > <rodc7777 > > Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:23 PM > > Assistance Sought to Wake Up Jeff Rense.... S.722 is a RED > HERRING > > > > > > > Why Your Concern re Durbin's Bill (S.722) is Seriously Misplaced: How It > > is Distracting You From a FAR Greater Threat Detailed Assistance to Help > > You See the Global Chessboard As Pharma Attempts to Destroy the Dietary > > Supplement Industry Globally > > > > > > IAHF Webmaster: Post this under breaking news, whats new, what to do. > > Allied webmasters, please post. > > > > > > IAHF list: Please forward this widely, help is needed to offset damage > > done inadvertantly to the cause of health freedom by Jeff Rense who I hope > > will read this carefully because it is not intended to be a personal > attack > > on Jeff who I know was honestly motivated, even if he did recently make a > > serious mistake- but its not too late for Jeff to realize what is going on > > or to put Rob Verkerk and I back on the air for an ongoing discussion of > > this extremely important matter. What follows here is a response to > > Elizabeth Wright, who was responding to something of mine that was > recently > > posted on the Jeff Rense website. I hope this serves to not only educate > > Elizabeth on this issue, but also many others as well who may feel > similarly > > confused or unsure as to what to do. > > > > > > At 12:13 PM 8/8/03 -0500, you wrote re Senator Durbin's Bill S.722 " The > > Dietary Supplement Safety Act of 2003 " and my statement that it is a " red > > herring " : > > > > > > Hello Mr Hammel; > > > > > > I'm sorry sir, I think you're wrong. The very fact that it was > introduced > > is a major factor here. Seems to me like they're testing the waters more > > intensely to see exactly what will be ignored and what will not be > ignored. > > My opinion about the whole affair is this, it's dangerous to ignore > anything > > they're doing on the Hill. You may be willing to take the risk in saying > > it's nothing, and ignoring the bills, but I am not so willing to take the > > same risk. > > > > > > We are not even going to discuss the wonderful way you made it seem as > > though I and every other American are so ignorant we can't tie our shoe > > laces. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Elizabeth Wright ( " Liz " <soulwolf) > > > > > > Elizabeth: > > > > > > My apology if I offended you. It was never my intention to offend you or > > anyone else with what I wrote. I am working an average of over 80 hours > per > > week in an effort to defend consumer access to dietary supplements not > only > > in the USA, but all over the world, and I see a very big picture which is > > frustratingly challenging to explain to people, but I am going to try here > > because I deeply appreciate your concern. Due to the genetic need I have > for > > the supplements I take, my back is to the wall, and I am most assuredly > not > > misleading anyone when I tell them that Durbin's bill is a red herring. > You > > can read my personal story of recovery from a life threatening illness via > a > > suppressed alternative treatment mode involving the use of dietary > > supplements at http://www.iahf.com/on_the_back_wards.html > > > > > > Things are seldom as simple as they first appear on the surface when > > confronting the multinational pharmaceutical industry, the world's #1 > profit > > making industry which has their tentacles as deeply into the dietary > > supplement industry as they do. The PR Campaign to get everyone focused on > > Durbin's bill S.722 was initiated early in the summer by the National > > Nutritional Foods Association (NNFA), as part of an intentional effort on > > the part of pharmaceutical interests that are dominating NNFA to keep > their > > rank and file members (who they're actively deceiving), and the vitamin > > consuming public, (who they're ALSO actively deceiving), from paying any > > attention to a BONAFIDE threat to the dietary supplement industry that is > > FAR more real and IMMEDIATE than any threat posed by Durbin's bill at the > > present time. I will provide complete details herein. > > > > > > By the time you are done reading, you will be STUNNED by the awful truth > > of what I am saying. > > > > > > I sincerely hope Jeff Rense will be too, because I am forwarding this to > > him with the strong urging that he not only post this, but that he put Rob > > Verkerk and I back on the air to do a follow up to the show he did with us > > on July 10th, because a follow up is badly needed. If you did not hear the > > show I did with Jeff on July 10th its in his archived shows as an audio > file > > at http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/ > > > > > > This deplorable situation exists because NNFA is not enforcing Article > > 14.3 in their Bylaws: Conflicts of Interest Disclosure. Against their own > > bylaws they are allowing multinational pharmaceutical companies, including > > Pfizer, the world's largest, to join, and play an integral role in running > > their trade association and determining its policies on legislative > matters- > > to the supreme DETRIMENT of their rank and file membership and the vitamin > > consuming public at large, which is being artfully kept in the DARK as to > > how to fight back. What they ARE being told SOUNDS plausable on the > surface > > to busy people who don't have time to examine the issues as I do, but it > > remains nothing more than very slick spin control, and it sickens and > > frustrates me when people fall for it. > > > > > > Ralph Fucetola, JD http://www.vitaminlawyer.com can attest to the truth > of > > the things I'm saying here, and I am ccing this to him. You can reach > Ralph > > at <ralph.fucetola for independent verification of what I am > > telling you. Gayle Eversole <leaflady > http://www.leaflady.org/ > > can also attest to these truths, and I am also forwarding this to her. > > Robert Verkerk, PhD, Executive Director of the UKs Alliance for Natural > > Health http://www.alliance-natural-health.org robert.verkerk > can > > also attest to the truths expressed herein. > > > > > > As you can see from the cc line above, I have sent this to all of these > > people, along with Jeff Rense. > > > > > > I would have explained all of this to Jeff by phone if he had merely > > called me as I invited him to recently. It would have taken far less time > > and energy for me to explain all of this to him by phone, but he did not > > call me. I feel very uncomfortable by the censorship he is engaging in by > > not allowing me to respond to " Sparrowdancer " (see > > http://www.rense.com/general39/diver.htm ) where I could have cleared up > any > > confusion about this had I been afforded a chance. (I am sending this to > > " Sparrowdancer " and invite a dialogue with her and with Jeff about what I > > am saying here. > > > > > > Since Jeff chose to engage in censorship with me, given the seriousness > of > > this situation, I will be posting this on my website and sending it to my > > distribution list. I will also be posting it on Rumormillnews where more > > people can see it, and I'll be asking a number of allied websites to also > > post it, because if theres one thing I don't respect, its censorship, from > > Jeff Rense, or anyone else on the planet. > > > > > > The only honest thing to do here Jeff is to not engage in censorship and > > to put me back on the air for a followup show to the one he did with me on > > July 10th. Jeff- If you truly care about defending consumer access to > > dietary supplements, as I fully believe you do, you will not take offense > at > > what I am saying to you here because you will realize my intent here is > not > > to put you down in any way, but to educate you, along with Liz and > > Sparrowdancer. Because you did not call me, you leave me with no choice > but > > to respond to you publicly. Jeff- I sincerely hope you take this email in > > the spirit with which it was intended and don't misconstrue this to be a > > personal attack, because it is not intended to be one. > > > > > > > > > RENSE UNWITTINGLY ASSISTS PHARMA CARTEL - AN HONEST MISTAKE- BUT A > MISTAKE > > NONE THE LESS > > > > > > By posting an alert about S.722 on the front page of his website > > http://www.rense.com/general39/stops.htm, Jeff Rense is unwittingly > playing > > directly into the hands of the pharmaceutical interests which dominate the > > National Nutritional Foods Association and who STARTED the massive PR > > campaign regarding Durbin's bill as an intentional DISTRACTION so that > > people will IGNORE a FAR GREATER THREAT than S.722- which in fact, poses > > very little threat at the present time as I will fully prove to you and to > > Jeff. (Lets hope Jeff has the integrity necessary to properly address what > I > > am saying given the extreme gravity of the situation before us which > > threatens the lives of millions of people globally. Jeff would not allow > me > > to respond to Mary Sparrowdancer's comments at > > http://www.rense.com/general39/diver.htm > > > where I could have explained all of this, had I not been wrongly denied > a > > chance to. I am sending this to Jeff and to Mary for the sake of a > > dialogue.) > > > > > > I have been a lobbyist on the front lines in the battle to defend > consumer > > access to dietary supplements since 1989. I don't only work on Capital > Hill > > in Washington DC, but I do my health freedom lobbying all over the world > and > > I am able to examine the relative threat posed by Durbin and Sweeny's > bills > > in a global context. Frankly, they are not the biggest threat we're facing > > right now, not even close, but they are serving to DISTRACT people from > > paying any attention to this much larger threat, and unfortunately, Jeff > is > > helping them do that. > > > > > > What you fail to grasp is that all threats are relative. Could you get > > killed by lightening if you walk outdoors during a thunderstorm, or could > > you get killed by a bee sting if you go on a picnic? Yes, you could, and > > some people have died this way, but Is it statistically probable? No, its > > not. This is the way you must learn to think as you assess this situation > > because right now we've got a hemmorhaging dike situation on our hands, > > we've got more damn leaks in the dike than we have fingers, so we have to > be > > STRATEGIC about how we channel our energies or we WILL get our butts > kicked. > > If you will please bear with me, I will fully explain why I have called > > Durbin's bill a " red herring. " > > > > > > THE BIGGEST THREAT TO CONSUMER ACCESS TO DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS IS NOT > DURBIN > > OR SWEENEY'S BILLS > > > > > > The biggest threat currently posed to consumer access to dietary > > supplements, not only in America, but globally, will be if the Alliance > for > > Natural Health http://www.alliance-natural-health.org in the UK fails to > > get the necessary financial support from vitamin companies and consumers > to > > overturn the European Union Food Supplement Directive via a lawsuit that > > they MUST file no later than the middle of September, to give us the > optimum > > chance of saving the dietary supplement industry from total global > > annihilation. > > > > > > As the person who first alerted dietary supplement consumers to the UN > > Codex International Threat to Health Freedom in my article in Life > Extension > > Magazine http://www.lef.org in 1996, I am able to weigh and assess threats > > posed by bills such as S.722 in a much broader context than the average > > person- I am one of the few people in the world who clearly sees the > global > > chessboard on which the multinational pharmaceutical industry is plotting > to > > destroy the dietary supplement industry. This knowledge did not come > easily > > or quickly to me, it has been very hard won, and I have the battle scars > to > > prove it. I have had DEATH THREATS and constant threats of legal action > due > > to my effort to expose this agenda. Call me at 800-333-2553 if you'd like > to > > discuss any aspect of what I am telling you here. > > > > > > > > > VERKERK AND I WERE ON RENSE'S RADIO SHOW ON JULY 10th - JEFF SHOULD > LISTEN > > TO THE ARCHIVE OF HIS OWN SHOW > > > > > > Although Robert Verkerk, PhD, Executive Director of the UK's Alliance > for > > Natural Health and I each spent an hour (2 total) being interviewed by > Jeff > > Rense on his July 10th show (listen to the audio archive at > > http://www.rense.com if you missed it), it is apparent to me that Jeff > fails > > to grasp what is currently going on, even though he spent two hours > > interviewing Rob and I on the air. > > > > > > If Jeff had called me to ask if he should post an alert regarding S.722 > > (or Sweeney's HR 1075) on his website, I would have said no- its a red > > herring, its not necessary at the current time, Congress is not even in > > session til September 2nd and the far GREATER THREAT lies in ANH not > getting > > the donations they need by mid September to file and sustain the lawsuit > to > > overturn the EU Food Supplement Directive, which has enormous > international > > ramifications. (details below). If Jeff had called me, I could have told > > him that NNFA's internal communication on this issue was recently leaked > to > > me, and that it reflects a pattern of deception and subterfuge thats been > > going on inside the trade association for YEARS because they are not > > enforcing their conflict of interest disclosure bylaw and are allowing > > pharmaceutical interests in to their trade association, which they are > > dominating from the top-down. > > > > > > > > > THE CURRENT SITUATION WE FACE WITH DURBIN AND SWEENEY'S BILLS WHICH I AM > > ACTIVELY TRACKING AND NOT IGNORING > > > > > > The current situation we face with regards to Durbin's S.722 and > Sweeneys > > HR 1075 (Ephedra Public Protection Act) > > > http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:2:./temp/~c108Huw6RI:: is > that > > both bills are being very solidly contained via a massive lobbying > campaign > > by Metabolife http://www.metabolife.com/index_flash.htm, of which I have > > inside knowledge that most people don't have because it is my business to > > monitor these bills- I have earned a living as a professional lobbyist in > > the dietary supplement industry for the past 15 years. > > > > > > Metabolife is a multimillion dollar dietary supplement company that has > > lobbying resources which eclipse the average dietary supplement company by > a > > very wide margin. They have the level of lobbying firepower that is > normally > > only found in a pharmaceutical company. S.722 only has 3 cosponsors, while > > HR 1075 only has 4. Neither has a head of steam behind them, and neither > > will EVER GET a head of steam behind them because of what FDA Commissioner > > McLellan said in the Ephedra hearing on July 23-24 (details below > including > > the url where you can watch the archived videofile of the hearing so you > can > > see what he said with your own two eyes.) > > > > > > Metabolife's political power can be readily seen via a perusal of the > > Federal Election Commission website http://www.fec.gov where you can see > the > > campaign donations that they have made to numerous members of Congress as > a > > way of bottling up any legislation that threatens their business > interests. > > They are able to get ushered directly in to the inner sanctum of Senators > > and Congressmen's offices with the level of campaign donations they are > > making, but most people don't realize any of this. > > > > > > With what just happened in the ephedra hearing held on July 23rd and > 24th, > > these bills have been all but killed- and by a surprising means too: > believe > > it or not, FDA Commissioner McLellan is a man of uncommon integrity, I > have > > never seen an FDA Commissioner as honest as he is- and believe it or not, > he > > made a statement that you can watch on the archived videocast of the > > hearing, that is going to contribute very heavily to the killing of these > > bills, which at the present rate, won't even make it out of committee and > > onto the floor of either the house or senate. Due to how they're currently > > being contained, they will be among the 96% of all bills that are > introduced > > which " die on the vine. " > > > > > > The first thing you should do in order to have an objective basis to > > assess the degree to which S.722 or Sweeny's house bill poses a threat is > to > > go to > > > http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/07232003hearing1021/hearing.htm > > and watch the archived videocast of both days of the ephedra hearing which > > just took place on July 23 and 24th in the House Energy and Commerce > > Committee Subcommittee on Investigations, chaired by Congressman Greenwood > > from Pennsylvania. > > > > > > At this hearing, when grilled by Congress, surprisingly, McLellan did > NOT > > give them what they wanted him to say. They tried to get him to say that > the > > Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 " ties FDA's hands " and > > " blocks FDA from properly protecting the public from unsafe dietary > > supplements. " They tried to get him to say " FDA needs help from congress > to > > repeal or amend DSHEA " but surprisingly, McLellan would not give them any > of > > that. > > > > > > What he did say was something like this: " FDA has been able to move > > successfully on numerous occassions under DSHEA to remove adulterated and > > misbranded products from the shelves, including ephedra that has been > > illegally spiked with pseudoephedrine, and including ephedra which was > > illegally sold as a substitute for street drugs. FDA has had no problem > > moving under DSHEA to confront manufacturers who had illegal labelling or > > who were making illegal health claims. The only untested part of DSHEA is > > the safety clause which has never been thoroughly tested in court. The > last > > time we went to court to try to ban ephedra, the Judge threw us out > telling > > us that we had to have something a lot more substantial to prove that the > > risks of taking ephedra outweigh the benefits than just some anecdotal > > Adverse Event Reports- he told us we had to have solid clinical data. We > > have to do this right. We will be going back to court armed with clinical > > data that we did not have the first time. In the mean time we aree still > > sorting through thosands of comments received from the public in response > to > > an Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking pertaining to a proposed rule we > > will be coming out with on Ephedra. It would be premature for me to > comment > > on exactly what that final rule will be, but we are leaning toward coming > > out with strict warning labels on ephedra as well as imposing potency > > restrictions. " > > > > > > You may not realize it, but McLellan did more with that statement to > pour > > cold water on this bill than any other single factor, and you can be sure > > Metabolife's lobbyists will be using this in their efforts to kill the > bill. > > While it is ironic that the FDA Commissioner has just done us all a huge > > favor by saying this, it is none the less true. It will be very difficult > > for these bills to move appreciably after this, and I am much less > concerned > > about it as a result. That doesn't mean I won't continue to track the > bills, > > but I predict that my suspicions will be confirmed that these bills are > not > > moving after Congress reconvenes on September 2nd just as soon as bill > > status updates the information on the number of cosponsors. (Anyone can > > learn the current number of cosponsors on any bill at > http://thomas.loc.gov > > and by going to the bill summary and status file for the bill, such as for > > S.722, see http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:s.00722: where you > > will see the bill has just 3 cosponsors. > > > > > > (For the record, FDA isn't going to get ephedra banned in court for the > > simple reason that even if they were to succeed in a lower court, which is > > far from certain, they'd be overturned on appeal because Metabolife would > > appeal under the Administrative Procedures Act, wherein they'd argue > > successfully that pseudoephedrine found in OTC cold products poses a far > > greater threat than ephedra and its not justified for FDA to ban ephedra > > unless they're ALSO prepared to ban pseudoephedrine- (which aint' gonna > > happen due to the Pharma lobby, but this would be an air tight argument in > > court.) > > > > > > THE THREAT THAT IS FAR MORE IMMEDIATE THAN DURBIN OR SWEENEYS BILLS- > > > ANH NOT GETTING THE DONATIONS THEY NEED BY MID SEPTEMBER------- > > > IF ANYTHING INTERFERES WITH THEIR GETTING THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO FILE > AND > > SUSTAIN THEIR ALL IMPORTANT LAWSUIT TO OVERTURN THE EU FOOD SUPPLEMENTS > > DIRECTIVE- GIVEN ITS GLOBAL IMPLICATIONS- WE'RE SCREWED!!! > > > > > > See my article at http://www.iahf.com/anh_lawsuit.html or the editted > > version as published in the July issue of Life Extension Magazine at > > > > > > http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2003/2003_preprint_eu_02.html?SUBMIT2=Search > > > > > > That much larger and far more REAL threat stems from the fact that the > FDA > > has set the USA up to lose in a WTO Trade Dispute via which our domestic > > vitamin laws can be forcibly harmonized to a very restrictive, rapidly > > emerging international vitamin standard. We CAN protect ourselves from > what > > is going to unfold, but ONLY if we act VERY QUICKLY and make timely > > donations (prior to mid September when they must file their lawsuit) to > the > > UKs Alliance for Natural Health via their website at > > http://www.alliance-natural-health.org where you can donate via a credit > or > > debit card via a secure server, or via an international money order send > to > > the > > > > > > Alliance for Natural Health > > > Mount Manor House > > > 16 The Mount > > > Guildford > > > Surrey GU2 4HS > > > United Kingdom > > > > > > It is only from being able to see the global chess board on this issue > as > > clearly as I do that I have made the statement that it is premature of > NNFA > > to sound the huge alarm that they have sounded regarding S.722- but > because > > I am privvy to their internal communications, which have been leaked to me > > by disgruntled NNFA members who are tired of being lied to and misled on > > issues such as this, I am fully aware of aspects of this situation that > you > > and the vast majority of other Americans are not aware of. > > > > > > I realize that at first glance it would seem perfectly reasonable to get > > behind NNFA's bandwagon in opposition to S.722, it seems perfectly > > reasonable to adopt this position......... until you are able to see the > > global picture which I have just tried to explain to you here. It is my > hope > > that this explanation will help you to more clearly see how a lobbyist > > thinks, and that it will help you to properly assess the relative degree > of > > threat posed by Durbin's and Sweeney's bills. Also note that no one ever > > told you about Sweeney's house bill before I did, you only knew about > > Durbin's bill. Trust me, I am tracking these bills, and if at a future > time > > I feel that the threat posed by them overshadows other threats in our > midst, > > I will be the first to sound an alarm. > > > > > > Right now, as of August 9th, they do not, our most immediate concern > > should be to alert everyone we know to the dire need to get donations in > to > > the Alliance for Natural Health for their lawsuit which has huge > > international ramfications. Remember, 96% of all bills that are introduced > > are never passed into law, but the threat posed by the EU Food Supplement > > Directive if it is not overturned in court is INDISPUTABLE. > > > > > > For Health Freedom, > > > John C. Hammell, President > > > International Advocates for Health Freedom > > > POB 10632 Blacksburg VA 24062 USA > > > http://www.iahf.com > > > http://iadsa-exposed.tripod.com > > > 800-333-2553 N.America > > > 540-961-0476 World > > > International Advocates for Health Freedom > > > POB 10632 Blacksburg VA 24062 USA > > > http://www.iahf.com; http://iadsa-exposed.tripod.com > > > 800-333-2553 N.America > > > 540-961-0476 World > > > > > > ______________________ > > > To : > > http://www.ymlp.com/.php?jham+rodc7777 (AT) attbi (DOT) com > > > This mailinglist is hosted by http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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