Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Hi there! Within the recovery movement, there are observations that are fairly consistant, and seem generally true. This is " anecdotal evidence " . It is thought that an individual's emotional and mental maturation process can cease when alcoholism begins. Thus, someone can be mentally and emotionally younger than the real age. When the bottle is set down, and recovery begins, maturation and life skills that might have developed, begin again--usually with the help of a " program " of living as a guide. It does seem to take an awful lot of alcohol over a long period to get the " wet brain " effect, and it's unlikely. Some alcoholics in recovery think they've had some damage of the brain, but how does one really measure that? Denial is part of the disease process of alcoholism. Overcoming this is the first step to recovery, and that's not simple. An individual who drinks only weekends, is unlikely to think he has a problem. A person who drinks every day is unlikely to think he has a problem--but may begin to ask himself questions about his drinking, and wonder from time to time. The process of wondering can go on for years. If you find yourself consistently attracted to drinkers--and some people can find the alcoholic " in a crowded room, in the dark, in the corner, right behind that pillar--and isn't he wonderful? " --that's another issue altogether. There's denial involved there, too. Steve - HAH Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:31 AM Alcoholism Hi All, Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the weekends to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is that just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here? thank you, Hempress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hi: My alcoholism had nothing to do with availability or lack of health care. The root of my problem was I 'chose to take that first drink' and then to seek out other drinkers since the age of 17. Then somewhere over time that 'line of lack of control over alcohol & associated behaviors' was reached and I continued to drink as an alcoholic rather than choosing to be sober. After drinking for 34 years I had victory over alcohol when with God's help I 'chose' to take my last drink of alcohol 18 years ago. Addie > > GaiaHemp > ~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without > Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on > something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~ thank you, Hempress > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hempress, There is plenty to be found on the internet about the numerous horrid things alcohol does to the body. It is a very toxic chemical. I would suggest you doing a search and some reading if you really like this guy. Most anything positive you will find about alcohol was in greatest of liklihood, paid for and promoted by the alcohol industry. Alcohol can cause all the things you are sensing - dementia, psychosis, emotional dysfunction, etc. They use a term called " wet brain " for the last stages where the person literally goes insane. It's very sad to see. Alcohol prohibits the absorption of nutrients which I am sure is a major contributor to that as well as to the childlike emotional states that you will experience. You will also memory loss (black outs) or totally distorted memories. It wipes out the liver it is so toxic, it is a major contributor to many cancers, causes abnormal sleep and sleep disorders, etc. etc. etc. I personally am of the belief it is symptomatic of diabetes as alcohol counters high blood sugar effects which are the result of insulin resistance. The person is actually attempting to self medicate. I also think the best hope and treatment is to get them on a low carb diet of natural nutrient dense foods and vitamin supplements. You may find the following site of help - http://www.healthrecovery.com/Biochemical_Restoration.html Mary - " HAH " <GaiaHemp Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:31 PM Alcoholism > > > Hi All, > > Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so > many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of > reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at > our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the > weekends > to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even > when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is > that > just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here? > > > thank you, > Hempress > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 No, i didn't know people were actually attracted to drunks,~ I'm attracted to free spirited healthy people who may smoke marijuana, that's about it, i just happen to live in a town called Las Vegas that has a lot of alcoholism here, unfortunately~ thanks, Hempress ---- 10/21/04 17:13:01 Re: Alcoholism Hi there! Within the recovery movement, there are observations that are fairly consistant, and seem generally true. This is " anecdotal evidence " . It is thought that an individual's emotional and mental maturation process can cease when alcoholism begins. Thus, someone can be mentally and emotionally younger than the real age. When the bottle is set down, and recovery begins, maturation and life skills that might have developed, begin again--usually with the help of a " program " of living as a guide. It does seem to take an awful lot of alcohol over a long period to get the " wet brain " effect, and it's unlikely. Some alcoholics in recovery think they've had some damage of the brain, but how does one really measure that? Denial is part of the disease process of alcoholism. Overcoming this is the first step to recovery, and that's not simple. An individual who drinks only weekends, is unlikely to think he has a problem. A person who drinks every day is unlikely to think he has a problem--but may begin to ask himself questions about his drinking, and wonder from time to time. The process of wondering can go on for years. If you find yourself consistently attracted to drinkers--and some people can find the alcoholic " in a crowded room, in the dark, in the corner, right behind that pillar--and isn't he wonderful? --that's another issue altogether. There's denial involved there, too. Steve - HAH Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:31 AM Alcoholism Hi All, Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the weekends to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is that just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here? thank you, Hempress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hi Mary, I was interested in him until he lost his temper with me while intoxicated over nothing, i somewhat forgave him until he did the same thing sober, for i now see he lacks the skills we need to reason with as adults which i feel causes him to have such outburst and he does have black outs now and also HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE~ I tried introducing him to herbs and garlic because i do realize he is self medicating but he doesn't live with me so i cant stop him from drinking when he is not around me which isn't often anymore, only when i see him in the gym now, maybe~ So the reason i asked here was because i wanted a more personal response on this issue rather than researching it online~ That way i could respond back as i am doing now in better detail~ I still care for him as a friend but i m afraid to get any closer now because he can only help himself and he is in denial as to how serious this is right now even thou he knows he has a problem~ It is just really sad to see how horrible Alcohol, something legal, is on the brain, when i know for a fact Marijuana, something illegal, does not do this to our brains~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~ thank you, Hempress ---- 10/21/04 18:03:12 Re: Alcoholism Hempress, There is plenty to be found on the internet about the numerous horrid things alcohol does to the body. It is a very toxic chemical. I would suggest you doing a search and some reading if you really like this guy. Most anything positive you will find about alcohol was in greatest of liklihood, paid for and promoted by the alcohol industry. Alcohol can cause all the things you are sensing - dementia, psychosis, emotional dysfunction, etc. They use a term called " wet brain " for the last stages where the person literally goes insane. It's very sad to see. Alcohol prohibits the absorption of nutrients which I am sure is a major contributor to that as well as to the childlike emotional states that you will experience. You will also memory loss (black outs) or totally distorted memories. It wipes out the liver it is so toxic, it is a major contributor to many cancers, causes abnormal sleep and sleep disorders, etc. etc. etc. I personally am of the belief it is symptomatic of diabetes as alcohol counters high blood sugar effects which are the result of insulin resistance. The person is actually attempting to self medicate. I also think the best hope and treatment is to get them on a low carb diet of natural nutrient dense foods and vitamin supplements. You may find the following site of help - http://www.healthrecovery.com/Biochemical_Restoration.html Mary - " HAH " <GaiaHemp Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:31 PM Alcoholism > > > Hi All, > > Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so > many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of > reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at > our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the > weekends > to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even > when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is > that > just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here? > > > thank you, > Hempress > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hempess, I think alcoholism is an equal opportunity disaster that can happen to anyone, anytime, anyplace, directly and indirectly. It has nothing to do with having medical insurance or not. Caution towards getting hurt yourself is wise, temper control is an issue, as are accidents, as are messed up emotions, relationships, and lives. I grew up in an alcoholic home and do avoid such situations and problems as much as possible. But I have to say I don't think much of the concepts of " denial " and that only the person can help himself. Self awareness is a mental process that requires a healthy body and when a person is trapped drinking too much, those necessary mental processes do not occur as they should. There is a guy named Vernon Johnson who founded the top treatment center in the country. He developed the concepts of intervention. He wrote a few books on the subject, his observations and perceptions were exceptionally good. He saw that the person really was not perceiving reality properly and it was more important in such cases to reflect reality back to them. I don't think herbs and garlic would help much but again, encouraging a low carb diet would. In fact, the following is Atkins list of symptoms indicating blood sugar problems - you will see alcohol on the list. I would bet your friend would relate to many of the other symptoms. http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/14-753571.html You might just share it with him. Being that he is avid at the gym, he very likely has been following a high carb, low fat diet but is aware that low carb diets are becoming popular with weight lifters/body builders. The thing is, when you feel good and you then drink, it leaves you not feeling so well. Thus healthy people tend not to have much desire to drink. Those who are attracted to drinking are doing so because it is making them feel better. The secret to the problem is dealing with what is making them feel in such a way that alcohol would make them feel better which is overconsumption of carbohydrates that leads to problems with sugar regulation and high blood sugar. Mary - " HAH " <GaiaHemp Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:37 PM Re: Alcoholism > > > Hi Mary, > > I was interested in him until he lost his temper with me while intoxicated > over nothing, i somewhat forgave him until he did the same thing sober, > for > i now see he lacks the skills we need to reason with as adults which i > feel > causes him to have such outburst and he does have black outs now and also > HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE~ I tried introducing him to herbs and garlic because i > do realize he is self medicating but he doesn't live with me so i cant > stop > him from drinking when he is not around me which isn't often anymore, only > when i see him in the gym now, maybe~ > > So the reason i asked here was because i wanted a more personal response > on > this issue rather than researching it online~ That way i could respond > back > as i am doing now in better detail~ I still care for him as a friend but > i > m afraid to get any closer now because he can only help himself and he is > in > denial as to how serious this is right now even thou he knows he has a > problem~ It is just really sad to see how horrible Alcohol, something > legal, > is on the brain, when i know for a fact Marijuana, something illegal, does > not do this to our brains~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without > Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on > something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~ > > thank you, > Hempress > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hi Mary, My comment about people without Healthcare will be turning to Alcohol wasn't an absolute, for many more will be turning to other drugs of choice and that too isn't an absolute, just a statement about what occurs with some of us~ The garlic i was giving him was for his high blood pressure and more, not his drinking, of course not, and the herbs was just to show him how to take care of himself without using over the counter drugs~ I was slowly introducing him to natural healing by doing this, not rehab for his drinking not yet, for i drink wine on the weekends but i dont abuse it~ I can only pave the road to his recovery, he has to do the rest himself in the long run for i have encouraged him in many ways with a healthier diet but you cant lead a horse to water if he doesn't want to drink nor can you ride him to it either, for like this friend of mine has done in the past, he has lost it only to throw me off of his back, so to speak~ He was NOT as health conscious as he appeared in the gym to me in the first few weeks of seeing him~ It was more of a fisherman's net, you know what i mean? He had caught the mermaid for a while but i am back out to sea again, thank goodness:) Or the saying is " he looked good from afar but far from good " but he'll always be my friend~ Here's another Herb that is known to help people with withdrawals from Alcoholism, http://groups.msn.com/HealingHerbs/herbskr.msnw " Kudzu: Common name: Ge-gen. Botanical name: Pueraria lobata. Kudzu is a coarse, high-climbing, twining, trailing, perennial vine. The huge root, which can grow to the size of a human, is the source of medicinal preparations used in Traditional and modern herbal products Kudzu grows in most shaded areas in mountains, fields, along roadsides, thickets, and thin forests throughout most of China and the southeastern United States. The root of another Asian species of kudzu, Pueraria thomsonii, is also used for herbal products. Kudzu has been used in connection with alcohol withdrawal support and angina Historical or traditional use (may or may not be supported by scientific studies): Kudzu root has been known for centuries in Traditional Chinese Medicine as ge-gen. The first written mention of the plant as a medicine is in the ancient herbal text of Shen Nong (circa A.D. 100). In Traditional , kudzu root is used in prescriptions for the treatment of wei, or “superficial,” syndrome (a disease that manifests just under the surface—mild, but with fever), thirst, headache, and stiff neck with pain due to high blood pressure. It is also recommended for allergies, migraine headaches, and diarrhea. The historical application for drunkenness has become a major focal point of modern research on kudzu. It is also used in modern Chinese medicine as a treatment for angina pectoris. Active constituents: Kudzu root is high in isoflavones, such as daidzein, as well as isoflavone glycosides, such as daidzin and puerarin. Depending on its growing conditions, the total isoflavone content varies from 1.77–12.0%, with puerarin in the highest concentration, followed by daidzin and daidzein A widely publicized 1993 animal study showed that both daidzin and daidzein inhibit the desire for alcohol. The authors concluded the root extract may in fact be useful for reducing the urge for alcohol and as treatment for alcoholism. However, a small controlled clinical trial with alcoholic adults taking 1.2 grams of kudzu two times per day failed to show any effect on decreasing alcohol consumption or cravings. The 1985 Chinese Pharmacopoeia suggests 9–15 grams of kudzu root per day.5 In China, standardized root extracts (10 mg tablet is equivalent to 1.5 grams of the crude root) are used to treat angina pectoris. Some sources recommend 30–120 mg of the extract two to three times per day. At the amounts recommended above, there have been no reports of kudzu toxicity in humans. At the time of writing, there were no well-known drug interactions with kudzu. " thank you for your positive advice!, Hempress ---- 10/21/04 21:59:00 Re: Alcoholism Hempess, I think alcoholism is an equal opportunity disaster that can happen to anyone, anytime, anyplace, directly and indirectly. It has nothing to do with having medical insurance or not. Caution towards getting hurt yourself is wise, temper control is an issue, as are accidents, as are messed up emotions, relationships, and lives. I grew up in an alcoholic home and do avoid such situations and problems as much as possible. But I have to say I don't think much of the concepts of " denial " and that only the person can help himself. Self awareness is a mental process that requires a healthy body and when a person is trapped drinking too much, those necessary mental processes do not occur as they should. There is a guy named Vernon Johnson who founded the top treatment center in the country. He developed the concepts of intervention. He wrote a few books on the subject, his observations and perceptions were exceptionally good. He saw that the person really was not perceiving reality properly and it was more important in such cases to reflect reality back to them. I don't think herbs and garlic would help much but again, encouraging a low carb diet would. In fact, the following is Atkins list of symptoms indicating blood sugar problems - you will see alcohol on the list. I would bet your friend would relate to many of the other symptoms. http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/14-753571.html You might just share it with him. Being that he is avid at the gym, he very likely has been following a high carb, low fat diet but is aware that low carb diets are becoming popular with weight lifters/body builders. The thing is, when you feel good and you then drink, it leaves you not feeling so well. Thus healthy people tend not to have much desire to drink. Those who are attracted to drinking are doing so because it is making them feel better. The secret to the problem is dealing with what is making them feel in such a way that alcohol would make them feel better which is overconsumption of carbohydrates that leads to problems with sugar regulation and high blood sugar. Mary - " HAH " <GaiaHemp Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:37 PM Re: Alcoholism > > > Hi Mary, > > I was interested in him until he lost his temper with me while intoxicated > over nothing, i somewhat forgave him until he did the same thing sober, > for > i now see he lacks the skills we need to reason with as adults which i > feel > causes him to have such outburst and he does have black outs now and also > HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE~ I tried introducing him to herbs and garlic because i > do realize he is self medicating but he doesn't live with me so i cant > stop > him from drinking when he is not around me which isn't often anymore, only > when i see him in the gym now, maybe~ > > So the reason i asked here was because i wanted a more personal response > on > this issue rather than researching it online~ That way i could respond > back > as i am doing now in better detail~ I still care for him as a friend but > i > m afraid to get any closer now because he can only help himself and he is > in > denial as to how serious this is right now even thou he knows he has a > problem~ It is just really sad to see how horrible Alcohol, something > legal, > is on the brain, when i know for a fact Marijuana, something illegal, does > not do this to our brains~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without > Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on > something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~ > > thank you, > Hempress > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Dear Hempress, I can so relate to what you are going through from personal experience. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and then married an alcoholic, but myself never drank. An alcoholic does tend to think differently than a normal person. They have the 'i'm invincible' attitude when there drinking, and when there sober they dont seem to think theyve done anything wrong and can be very defensive about their drinking and the things they've done while drinking. They are also super sensitive about critisism both sober and drunk. I suffered weekly and sometimes daily beatings from both of them. over the course of about 25 years, to the extent of needing stitches on my head and a broken clavical from my mom, and a broken shoulder blade and misscarrying 6 children from my ex husband. I was a classic co-dependant. Then one day i discovered a group called Al- anon ( http://www.alanon.org.za/ ) it was the best thing that ever could have happened to me, and probably saved my life and that of the 3 children i did have. There are many facts you should know about trying to help someone with alcoholism. It is a DISEASE. It is also the one addiction that you can physically die from when trying to quit because of the withdrawl symptoms. The first thing you need to do is make sure your not being a co dependant. You have to stop supporting his efforts as an alcoholic. If he has been drinking, you need to stay away from him until he is sober. If he has a hangover you shouldnt take care of his personal needs as a result from his drinking, make him do it. (i.e. headache's, cleaning up after him, etc...) Dont make excuses for his behavior, you didnt do anything wrong and you shouldnt be made to feel you have. And by doing these things, an alcoholic will likely never see that they have a problem and need to get help for themselves. The key to effectively helping an alcoholic is KNOWLEDGE. The best place to find out the knowledge you need is to go to a Al-anon meeting. It dosnt cost anything, you will be able to relate with the people that are there, and if you truly care about this person its your best chance at helping him see that he truly has a life or death problem so that he can get the help he needs to overcome it. To the best of my knowledge, my ex husband is still an alcoholic, but my mother finally got the help she needed and dosnt drink anymore, and over the years of her treatment she has truly become the mother i always wanted. My mother is now 52 and we have the best relationship weve ever had. And the one thing i attrbute that to is having the knowledge to help her help herself. I hope i have been able to give you a little advice that could help you to help your friend...Good luck and i wish you the very best... Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Thank you so much, Tina, for opening up about how this disease has effected you in the past~ I've only known this man for 3 months, so i haven't really allowed him into my life or heart where i need to feel obligated in helping no more than he wants to help himself for now~ And I haven't allowed him to come around me again intoxicated because it's makes me so angry, i dont enjoy being angry or seeing a grown man inebriated, for it's HUGE turn off~ Anyway I have my own personal life and chronic asthma i must tend to first and foremost before i take another lover into my life with issues such as what i now know he has~ thank you again, Hempress ---- 10/23/04 06:11:46 Re: Alcoholism Dear Hempress, I can so relate to what you are going through from personal experience. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and then married an alcoholic, but myself never drank. An alcoholic does tend to think differently than a normal person. They have the 'i'm invincible' attitude when there drinking, and when there sober they dont seem to think theyve done anything wrong and can be very defensive about their drinking and the things they've done while drinking. They are also super sensitive about critisism both sober and drunk. I suffered weekly and sometimes daily beatings from both of them. over the course of about 25 years, to the extent of needing stitches on my head and a broken clavical from my mom, and a broken shoulder blade and misscarrying 6 children from my ex husband. I was a classic co-dependant. Then one day i discovered a group called Al- anon ( http://www.alanon.org.za/ ) it was the best thing that ever could have happened to me, and probably saved my life and that of the 3 children i did have. There are many facts you should know about trying to help someone with alcoholism. It is a DISEASE. It is also the one addiction that you can physically die from when trying to quit because of the withdrawl symptoms. The first thing you need to do is make sure your not being a co dependant. You have to stop supporting his efforts as an alcoholic. If he has been drinking, you need to stay away from him until he is sober. If he has a hangover you shouldnt take care of his personal needs as a result from his drinking, make him do it. (i.e. headache's, cleaning up after him, etc...) Dont make excuses for his behavior, you didnt do anything wrong and you shouldnt be made to feel you have. And by doing these things, an alcoholic will likely never see that they have a problem and need to get help for themselves. The key to effectively helping an alcoholic is KNOWLEDGE. The best place to find out the knowledge you need is to go to a Al-anon meeting. It dosnt cost anything, you will be able to relate with the people that are there, and if you truly care about this person its your best chance at helping him see that he truly has a life or death problem so that he can get the help he needs to overcome it. To the best of my knowledge, my ex husband is still an alcoholic, but my mother finally got the help she needed and dosnt drink anymore, and over the years of her treatment she has truly become the mother i always wanted. My mother is now 52 and we have the best relationship weve ever had. And the one thing i attrbute that to is having the knowledge to help her help herself. I hope i have been able to give you a little advice that could help you to help your friend...Good luck and i wish you the very best... Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 It says here Alcoholism depletes The B-Vitamins Folate + Thiamine. Folate is found in fresh produce and Thiamine is in Whole Grains etc. , " JoAnn Guest " <angelprincessjo wrote: > > http://adam.about.com/reports/000056_3.htm?terms=alcoholism > > Alcoholism > JoAnn Guest > Aug 15, 2006 16:50 PDT > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 First of all, Good for you. Taking control of your life and going to AA meetings is a big thing. Be proud of yourself for wanting to do it. I worked at a substance abuse treatment center for six years. Detoxing is something you want to do carefully. Do you have someone to stay with you? You can expect to not feel real good for several days. Withdrawal symptoms include severe shakiness, vomiting, thirst, feeling like you are walking around with lead weights on your legs. A lot of hospitals or treatment centers have detoxing centers. I don't know if it will help you or not, but peppermint works really well for me when I'm nausea or sick. Best wishes to you. Jodie HamiltonPassion Parties573.696.2294jhamilton002www.yourpassionguide.com - Sea Sprite Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:56 PM alcoholism I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first time. I am really worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there any natural way at all to help with this? I don't know what to expect, but I'd assume nausea and shakes. -- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - "Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood."We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBible www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 hang, in there its worth it you will see the changes in your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth having ever comes easy. --- Sea Sprite <seasprites wrote: > I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first > time. I am really > worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there > any natural way at all to > help with this? I don't know what to expect, but > I'd assume nausea and > shakes. > > -- > SeaSprite > Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It > is only to be > understood. " > We'd love for you to join: > MyMothersBible > www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden > ghost-cpr/ houstonpi-2/ http://www.myspace.com/ghost_hunter50 http://groups.myspace.com/CenterforParanormalResearch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Thank you, everyone, for such wonderful supporting comments. No, I am all alone. I'm a " closet case " and live in another city than my friends and family, so tis real easy to cover up. I expect nothing but misery. At least Peppermint and Ginger will help some. The shaking, I dunno. I do know they give you a sponsor. On 8/20/06, Golden Phoenix <golden_phoenix42 wrote: hang, in there its worth it you will see the changesin your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth havingever comes easy. --- Sea Sprite <seasprites wrote:> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first > time. I am really> worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there> any natural way at all to> help with this? I don't know what to expect, but> I'd assume nausea and> shakes. > > -- > SeaSprite> Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It> is only to be> understood. " > We'd love for you to join:> MyMothersBible> www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden> ghost-cpr/ houstonpi-2/http://www.myspace.com/ghost_hunter50 http://groups.myspace.com/CenterforParanormalResearchDo You ? -- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. " We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBiblewww.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 When you start going to the AA meetings, you will meet other alcoholics. When you start sharing with others, you will usually find someone who you can relate to and connect with. You then ask this person to be your sponsor. If you go to a meeting anytime soon, I would ask for advice on how to do this by yourself (detox). Someone might know more about it or be willing to help you. I know it would seem odd to be going through all this with someone you don't know, but they have done the very same thing and there if no one better to help you. You can always email me privately if you would like. Jodie HamiltonPassion Parties573.696.2294jhamilton002www.yourpassionguide.com - Sea Sprite Monday, August 21, 2006 6:41 AM Re: alcoholism Thank you, everyone, for such wonderful supporting comments. No, I am all alone. I'm a "closet case" and live in another city than my friends and family, so tis real easy to cover up. I expect nothing but misery. At least Peppermint and Ginger will help some. The shaking, I dunno. I do know they give you a sponsor. On 8/20/06, Golden Phoenix <golden_phoenix42 > wrote: hang, in there its worth it you will see the changesin your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth havingever comes easy. --- Sea Sprite <seasprites > wrote:> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first > time. I am really> worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there> any natural way at all to> help with this? I don't know what to expect, but> I'd assume nausea and> shakes.> > -- > SeaSprite> Marie Curie - "Nothing in life is to be feared. It> is only to be> understood."> We'd love for you to join:> MyMothersBible> www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden> ghost-cpr/ houstonpi-2/http://www.myspace.com/ghost_hunter50 http://groups.myspace.com/CenterforParanormalResearchDo You ? -- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - "Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood."We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBiblewww.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 You have no idea how much that means to me. Many, many hugs!!! On 8/21/06, Jodie Hamilton <jhamilton002 wrote: When you start going to the AA meetings, you will meet other alcoholics. When you start sharing with others, you will usually find someone who you can relate to and connect with. You then ask this person to be your sponsor. If you go to a meeting anytime soon, I would ask for advice on how to do this by yourself (detox). Someone might know more about it or be willing to help you. I know it would seem odd to be going through all this with someone you don't know, but they have done the very same thing and there if no one better to help you. You can always email me privately if you would like. Jodie HamiltonPassion Parties573.696.2294jhamilton002 www.yourpassionguide.com - Sea Sprite Monday, August 21, 2006 6:41 AM Re: alcoholism Thank you, everyone, for such wonderful supporting comments. No, I am all alone. I'm a " closet case " and live in another city than my friends and family, so tis real easy to cover up. I expect nothing but misery. At least Peppermint and Ginger will help some. The shaking, I dunno. I do know they give you a sponsor. On 8/20/06, Golden Phoenix <golden_phoenix42 > wrote: hang, in there its worth it you will see the changesin your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth havingever comes easy. --- Sea Sprite <seasprites wrote:> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first > time. I am really> worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there> any natural way at all to> help with this? I don't know what to expect, but> I'd assume nausea and> shakes. > > -- > SeaSprite> Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It> is only to be> understood. " > We'd love for you to join:> MyMothersBible> www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden> ghost-cpr/ houstonpi-2/http://www.myspace.com/ghost_hunter50 http://groups.myspace.com/CenterforParanormalResearchDo You ? -- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. " We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBible www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden -- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. " We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBiblewww.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 , " Jodie Hamilton " <jhamilton002 wrote: > > First of all, Good for you. Taking control of your life and going to AA meetings is a big thing. Be proud of yourself for wanting to do it. I worked at a substance abuse treatment center for six years. Detoxing is something you want to do carefully. Do you have someone to stay with you? You can expect to not feel real good for several days. Withdrawal symptoms include severe shakiness, vomiting, thirst, feeling like you are walking around with lead weights on your legs. > A lot of hospitals or treatment centers have detoxing centers. I don't know if it will help you or not, but peppermint works really well for me when I'm nausea or sick. > Best wishes to you. > Jodie Hamilton > Passion Parties > 573.696.2294 > jhamilton002 > www.yourpassionguide.com > - > Sea Sprite > > Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:56 PM > alcoholism > > > I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first time. I am really worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there any natural way at all to help with this? I don't know what to expect, but I'd assume nausea and shakes. > > -- > SeaSprite > Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. " > We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBible > www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden > Congratulations for admitting this. I think you should be really proud of yourself. I don't know if this will help at all, but I've heard that coming off of any drugs, or alcohol can be helped by eating oats. It is supposed to ease the transition of getting off substances, and will nourish the nervous system, and support all your important organs. You could also drink oatstraw infusion, which you could make by the quart (1 oz. oatstraw in a quart-jar, covered overnight with boiling water, strained, and consumed a cup at a time). Good luck. Earthkitten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Sea Sprite, I have an idea of what it means to you. :)I have been involved with AA since my dad got sober when I was 17. Sadly he is gone now but we had nearly 20 years with him sober and AA had everything to do with it. Recovering alcoholics share a bond that is stronger than anything you can imagine. Everyone in the groups my dad attended are still a part of our family. Much luck to you and brightest blessings. If you EVER need some extra support, a shoulder, anything at all please feel free to email me. Heather , " Sea Sprite " <seasprites wrote: > > You have no idea how much that means to me. Many, many hugs!!! > > On 8/21/06, Jodie Hamilton <jhamilton002 wrote: > > > > When you start going to the AA meetings, you will meet other > > alcoholics. When you start sharing with others, you will usually find > > someone who you can relate to and connect with. You then ask this person to > > be your sponsor. If you go to a meeting anytime soon, I would ask for > > advice on how to do this by yourself (detox). Someone might know more about > > it or be willing to help you. I know it would seem odd to be going through > > all this with someone you don't know, but they have done the very same thing > > and there if no one better to help you. You can always email me privately > > if you would like. > > Jodie Hamilton > > Passion Parties > > 573.696.2294 > > jhamilton002 > > www.yourpassionguide.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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