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Hi there! Within the recovery movement, there are observations that are fairly

consistant, and seem generally true. This is " anecdotal evidence " . It is

thought that an individual's emotional and mental maturation process can cease

when alcoholism begins. Thus, someone can be mentally and emotionally younger

than the real age. When the bottle is set down, and recovery begins, maturation

and life skills that might have developed, begin again--usually with the help of

a " program " of living as a guide. It does seem to take an awful lot of alcohol

over a long period to get the " wet brain " effect, and it's unlikely. Some

alcoholics in recovery think they've had some damage of the brain, but how does

one really measure that? Denial is part of the disease process of alcoholism.

Overcoming this is the first step to recovery, and that's not simple. An

individual who drinks only weekends, is unlikely to think he has a problem. A

person who drinks every day is unlikely to think he has a problem--but may begin

to ask himself questions about his drinking, and wonder from time to time. The

process of wondering can go on for years. If you find yourself consistently

attracted to drinkers--and some people can find the alcoholic " in a crowded

room, in the dark, in the corner, right behind that pillar--and isn't he

wonderful? " --that's another issue altogether. There's denial involved there,

too. Steve

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HAH

Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:31 AM

Alcoholism

 

 

 

Hi All,

 

Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so

many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of

reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at

our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the weekends

to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even

when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is that

just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here?

 

 

thank you,

Hempress

 

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Hi: My alcoholism had nothing to do with availability or lack of health care.

The root of my problem was I 'chose to take that first drink' and then to

seek out other drinkers since the age of 17. Then somewhere over time that 'line

of lack of control over alcohol & associated behaviors' was reached and I

continued to drink as an alcoholic rather than choosing to be sober. After

drinking for 34 years I had victory over alcohol when with God's help I 'chose'

to

take my last drink of alcohol 18 years ago. Addie

>

> GaiaHemp

> ~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without

> Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on

> something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~ thank you, Hempress

>

 

 

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Hempress,

 

There is plenty to be found on the internet about the numerous horrid things

alcohol does to the body. It is a very toxic chemical. I would suggest you

doing a search and some reading if you really like this guy. Most anything

positive you will find about alcohol was in greatest of liklihood, paid for

and promoted by the alcohol industry. Alcohol can cause all the things you

are sensing - dementia, psychosis, emotional dysfunction, etc. They use a

term called " wet brain " for the last stages where the person literally goes

insane. It's very sad to see. Alcohol prohibits the absorption of

nutrients which I am sure is a major contributor to that as well as to the

childlike emotional states that you will experience. You will also memory

loss (black outs) or totally distorted memories. It wipes out the liver it

is so toxic, it is a major contributor to many cancers, causes abnormal

sleep and sleep disorders, etc. etc. etc.

 

I personally am of the belief it is symptomatic of diabetes as alcohol

counters high blood sugar effects which are the result of insulin

resistance. The person is actually attempting to self medicate. I also

think the best hope and treatment is to get them on a low carb diet of

natural nutrient dense foods and vitamin supplements. You may find the

following site of help -

http://www.healthrecovery.com/Biochemical_Restoration.html

 

Mary

 

 

-

" HAH " <GaiaHemp

 

Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:31 PM

Alcoholism

 

 

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so

> many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of

> reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at

> our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the

> weekends

> to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even

> when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is

> that

> just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here?

>

>

> thank you,

> Hempress

>

>

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No, i didn't know people were actually attracted to drunks,~ I'm attracted

to free spirited healthy people who may smoke marijuana, that's about it, i

just happen to live in a town called Las Vegas that has a lot of alcoholism

here, unfortunately~

 

thanks,

Hempress

 

 

----

 

 

10/21/04 17:13:01

 

Re: Alcoholism

 

 

Hi there! Within the recovery movement, there are observations that are

fairly consistant, and seem generally true. This is " anecdotal evidence " .

It is thought that an individual's emotional and mental maturation process

can cease when alcoholism begins. Thus, someone can be mentally and

emotionally younger than the real age. When the bottle is set down, and

recovery begins, maturation and life skills that might have developed, begin

again--usually with the help of a " program " of living as a guide. It does

seem to take an awful lot of alcohol over a long period to get the " wet

brain " effect, and it's unlikely. Some alcoholics in recovery think they've

had some damage of the brain, but how does one really measure that? Denial

is part of the disease process of alcoholism. Overcoming this is the first

step to recovery, and that's not simple. An individual who drinks only

weekends, is unlikely to think he has a problem. A person who drinks every

day is unlikely to think he has a problem--but may begin to ask himself

questions about his drinking, and wonder from time to time. The process of

wondering can go on for years. If you find yourself consistently attracted

to drinkers--and some people can find the alcoholic " in a crowded room, in

the dark, in the corner, right behind that pillar--and isn't he wonderful?

--that's another issue altogether. There's denial involved there, too.

Steve

-

HAH

Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:31 AM

Alcoholism

 

 

 

Hi All,

 

Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so

many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of

reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at

our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the

weekends

to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even

when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is

that

just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here?

 

 

thank you,

Hempress

 

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Hi Mary,

 

I was interested in him until he lost his temper with me while intoxicated

over nothing, i somewhat forgave him until he did the same thing sober, for

i now see he lacks the skills we need to reason with as adults which i feel

causes him to have such outburst and he does have black outs now and also

HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE~ I tried introducing him to herbs and garlic because i

do realize he is self medicating but he doesn't live with me so i cant stop

him from drinking when he is not around me which isn't often anymore, only

when i see him in the gym now, maybe~

 

So the reason i asked here was because i wanted a more personal response on

this issue rather than researching it online~ That way i could respond back

as i am doing now in better detail~ I still care for him as a friend but i

m afraid to get any closer now because he can only help himself and he is in

denial as to how serious this is right now even thou he knows he has a

problem~ It is just really sad to see how horrible Alcohol, something legal,

is on the brain, when i know for a fact Marijuana, something illegal, does

not do this to our brains~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without

Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on

something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~

 

thank you,

Hempress

 

 

----

 

 

10/21/04 18:03:12

 

Re: Alcoholism

 

 

Hempress,

 

There is plenty to be found on the internet about the numerous horrid things

 

alcohol does to the body. It is a very toxic chemical. I would suggest you

doing a search and some reading if you really like this guy. Most anything

positive you will find about alcohol was in greatest of liklihood, paid for

and promoted by the alcohol industry. Alcohol can cause all the things you

are sensing - dementia, psychosis, emotional dysfunction, etc. They use a

term called " wet brain " for the last stages where the person literally goes

insane. It's very sad to see. Alcohol prohibits the absorption of

nutrients which I am sure is a major contributor to that as well as to the

childlike emotional states that you will experience. You will also memory

loss (black outs) or totally distorted memories. It wipes out the liver it

is so toxic, it is a major contributor to many cancers, causes abnormal

sleep and sleep disorders, etc. etc. etc.

 

I personally am of the belief it is symptomatic of diabetes as alcohol

counters high blood sugar effects which are the result of insulin

resistance. The person is actually attempting to self medicate. I also

think the best hope and treatment is to get them on a low carb diet of

natural nutrient dense foods and vitamin supplements. You may find the

following site of help -

http://www.healthrecovery.com/Biochemical_Restoration.html

 

Mary

 

 

-

" HAH " <GaiaHemp

 

Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:31 PM

Alcoholism

 

 

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> Can someone give me an idea of what Alcohol can do to the brain after so

> many years of abusing it? Can a person begin to suffer from a lack of

> reasoning or Dementia? I met a nice 45 year old guy about 3 months ago at

> our gym but i have since found out he abuses Alcohol always on the

> weekends

> to the point of where i think he suffers some form of psychosis and even

> when he is sober he tends to reason like that of a child at times or is

> that

> just his total denial of this disease i'm seeing here?

>

>

> thank you,

> Hempress

>

>

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Hempess,

 

I think alcoholism is an equal opportunity disaster that can happen to

anyone, anytime, anyplace, directly and indirectly. It has nothing to do

with having medical insurance or not. Caution towards getting hurt yourself

is wise, temper control is an issue, as are accidents, as are messed up

emotions, relationships, and lives. I grew up in an alcoholic home and do

avoid such situations and problems as much as possible. But I have to say I

don't think much of the concepts of " denial " and that only the person can

help himself. Self awareness is a mental process that requires a healthy

body and when a person is trapped drinking too much, those necessary mental

processes do not occur as they should. There is a guy named Vernon Johnson

who founded the top treatment center in the country. He developed the

concepts of intervention. He wrote a few books on the subject, his

observations and perceptions were exceptionally good. He saw that the

person really was not perceiving reality properly and it was more important

in such cases to reflect reality back to them.

 

I don't think herbs and garlic would help much but again, encouraging a low

carb diet would. In fact, the following is Atkins list of symptoms

indicating blood sugar problems - you will see alcohol on the list. I would

bet your friend would relate to many of the other symptoms.

http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/14-753571.html You might just share it

with him. Being that he is avid at the gym, he very likely has been

following a high carb, low fat diet but is aware that low carb diets are

becoming popular with weight lifters/body builders. The thing is, when you

feel good and you then drink, it leaves you not feeling so well. Thus

healthy people tend not to have much desire to drink. Those who are

attracted to drinking are doing so because it is making them feel better.

The secret to the problem is dealing with what is making them feel in such a

way that alcohol would make them feel better which is overconsumption of

carbohydrates that leads to problems with sugar regulation and high blood

sugar.

 

Mary

 

 

-

" HAH " <GaiaHemp

 

Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:37 PM

Re: Alcoholism

 

 

>

>

> Hi Mary,

>

> I was interested in him until he lost his temper with me while intoxicated

> over nothing, i somewhat forgave him until he did the same thing sober,

> for

> i now see he lacks the skills we need to reason with as adults which i

> feel

> causes him to have such outburst and he does have black outs now and also

> HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE~ I tried introducing him to herbs and garlic because i

> do realize he is self medicating but he doesn't live with me so i cant

> stop

> him from drinking when he is not around me which isn't often anymore, only

> when i see him in the gym now, maybe~

>

> So the reason i asked here was because i wanted a more personal response

> on

> this issue rather than researching it online~ That way i could respond

> back

> as i am doing now in better detail~ I still care for him as a friend but

> i

> m afraid to get any closer now because he can only help himself and he is

> in

> denial as to how serious this is right now even thou he knows he has a

> problem~ It is just really sad to see how horrible Alcohol, something

> legal,

> is on the brain, when i know for a fact Marijuana, something illegal, does

> not do this to our brains~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without

> Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on

> something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~

>

> thank you,

> Hempress

>

>

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Hi Mary,

 

My comment about people without Healthcare will be turning to Alcohol wasn't

an absolute, for many more will be turning to other drugs of choice and that

too isn't an absolute, just a statement about what occurs with some of us~

 

The garlic i was giving him was for his high blood pressure and more, not

his drinking, of course not, and the herbs was just to show him how to take

care of himself without using over the counter drugs~ I was slowly

introducing him to natural healing by doing this, not rehab for his drinking

not yet, for i drink wine on the weekends but i dont abuse it~ I can only

pave the road to his recovery, he has to do the rest himself in the long run

for i have encouraged him in many ways with a healthier diet but you cant

lead a horse to water if he doesn't want to drink nor can you ride him to it

either, for like this friend of mine has done in the past, he has lost it

only to throw me off of his back, so to speak~ He was NOT as health

conscious as he appeared in the gym to me in the first few weeks of seeing

him~ It was more of a fisherman's net, you know what i mean?:) He had caught

the mermaid for a while but i am back out to sea again, thank goodness:) Or

the saying is " he looked good from afar but far from good " but he'll always

be my friend~

 

 

 

 

Here's another Herb that is known to help people with withdrawals from

Alcoholism,

http://groups.msn.com/HealingHerbs/herbskr.msnw

" Kudzu: Common name: Ge-gen. Botanical name: Pueraria lobata. Kudzu is a

coarse, high-climbing, twining, trailing, perennial vine. The huge root,

which can grow to the size of a human, is the source of medicinal

preparations used in Traditional and modern herbal products

Kudzu grows in most shaded areas in mountains, fields, along roadsides,

thickets, and thin forests throughout most of China and the southeastern

United States. The root of another Asian species of kudzu, Pueraria

thomsonii, is also used for herbal products.

Kudzu has been used in connection with alcohol withdrawal support and angina

 

 

Historical or traditional use (may or may not be supported by scientific

studies): Kudzu root has been known for centuries in Traditional Chinese

Medicine as ge-gen. The first written mention of the plant as a medicine is

in the ancient herbal text of Shen Nong (circa A.D. 100). In Traditional

, kudzu root is used in prescriptions for the treatment of

wei, or “superficial,” syndrome (a disease that manifests just under the

surface—mild, but with fever), thirst, headache, and stiff neck with pain

due to high blood pressure. It is also recommended for allergies, migraine

headaches, and diarrhea. The historical application for drunkenness has

become a major focal point of modern research on kudzu. It is also used in

modern Chinese medicine as a treatment for angina pectoris.

Active constituents: Kudzu root is high in isoflavones, such as daidzein, as

well as isoflavone glycosides, such as daidzin and puerarin. Depending on

its growing conditions, the total isoflavone content varies from 1.77–12.0%,

with puerarin in the highest concentration, followed by daidzin and daidzein

 

A widely publicized 1993 animal study showed that both daidzin and daidzein

inhibit the desire for alcohol. The authors concluded the root extract may

in fact be useful for reducing the urge for alcohol and as treatment for

alcoholism. However, a small controlled clinical trial with alcoholic adults

taking 1.2 grams of kudzu two times per day failed to show any effect on

decreasing alcohol consumption or cravings.

The 1985 Chinese Pharmacopoeia suggests 9–15 grams of kudzu root per day.5

In China, standardized root extracts (10 mg tablet is equivalent to 1.5

grams of the crude root) are used to treat angina pectoris. Some sources

recommend 30–120 mg of the extract two to three times per day.

At the amounts recommended above, there have been no reports of kudzu

toxicity in humans. At the time of writing, there were no well-known drug

interactions with kudzu. "

 

thank you for your positive advice!,

Hempress

----

 

 

10/21/04 21:59:00

 

Re: Alcoholism

 

 

Hempess,

 

I think alcoholism is an equal opportunity disaster that can happen to

anyone, anytime, anyplace, directly and indirectly. It has nothing to do

with having medical insurance or not. Caution towards getting hurt yourself

 

is wise, temper control is an issue, as are accidents, as are messed up

emotions, relationships, and lives. I grew up in an alcoholic home and do

avoid such situations and problems as much as possible. But I have to say I

don't think much of the concepts of " denial " and that only the person can

help himself. Self awareness is a mental process that requires a healthy

body and when a person is trapped drinking too much, those necessary mental

processes do not occur as they should. There is a guy named Vernon Johnson

who founded the top treatment center in the country. He developed the

concepts of intervention. He wrote a few books on the subject, his

observations and perceptions were exceptionally good. He saw that the

person really was not perceiving reality properly and it was more important

in such cases to reflect reality back to them.

 

I don't think herbs and garlic would help much but again, encouraging a low

carb diet would. In fact, the following is Atkins list of symptoms

indicating blood sugar problems - you will see alcohol on the list. I would

 

bet your friend would relate to many of the other symptoms.

http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/14-753571.html You might just share it

with him. Being that he is avid at the gym, he very likely has been

following a high carb, low fat diet but is aware that low carb diets are

becoming popular with weight lifters/body builders. The thing is, when you

feel good and you then drink, it leaves you not feeling so well. Thus

healthy people tend not to have much desire to drink. Those who are

attracted to drinking are doing so because it is making them feel better.

The secret to the problem is dealing with what is making them feel in such a

 

way that alcohol would make them feel better which is overconsumption of

carbohydrates that leads to problems with sugar regulation and high blood

sugar.

 

Mary

 

 

-

" HAH " <GaiaHemp

 

Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:37 PM

Re: Alcoholism

 

 

>

>

> Hi Mary,

>

> I was interested in him until he lost his temper with me while intoxicated

> over nothing, i somewhat forgave him until he did the same thing sober,

> for

> i now see he lacks the skills we need to reason with as adults which i

> feel

> causes him to have such outburst and he does have black outs now and also

> HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE~ I tried introducing him to herbs and garlic because i

> do realize he is self medicating but he doesn't live with me so i cant

> stop

> him from drinking when he is not around me which isn't often anymore, only

> when i see him in the gym now, maybe~

>

> So the reason i asked here was because i wanted a more personal response

> on

> this issue rather than researching it online~ That way i could respond

> back

> as i am doing now in better detail~ I still care for him as a friend but

> i

> m afraid to get any closer now because he can only help himself and he is

> in

> denial as to how serious this is right now even thou he knows he has a

> problem~ It is just really sad to see how horrible Alcohol, something

> legal,

> is on the brain, when i know for a fact Marijuana, something illegal, does

> not do this to our brains~ And as long as 45 million Americans are without

> Healthcare then there will certainly be more of us self medicating on

> something as legal and lethal as Alcohol~

>

> thank you,

> Hempress

>

>

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Dear Hempress,

I can so relate to what you are going through from personal

experience. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and then married an

alcoholic, but myself never drank. An alcoholic does tend to think

differently than a normal person. They have the 'i'm invincible'

attitude when there drinking, and when there sober they dont seem to

think theyve done anything wrong and can be very defensive about

their drinking and the things they've done while drinking. They are

also super sensitive about critisism both sober and drunk. I

suffered weekly and sometimes daily beatings from both of them. over

the course of about 25 years, to the extent of needing stitches on

my head and a broken clavical from my mom, and a broken shoulder

blade and misscarrying 6 children from my ex husband. I was a

classic co-dependant. Then one day i discovered a group called Al-

anon ( http://www.alanon.org.za/ ) it was the best thing that ever

could have happened to me, and probably saved my life and that of

the 3 children i did have. There are many facts you should know

about trying to help someone with alcoholism. It is a DISEASE. It is

also the one addiction that you can physically die from when trying

to quit because of the withdrawl symptoms. The first thing you need

to do is make sure your not being a co dependant. You have to stop

supporting his efforts as an alcoholic. If he has been drinking, you

need to stay away from him until he is sober. If he has a hangover

you shouldnt take care of his personal needs as a result from his

drinking, make him do it. (i.e. headache's, cleaning up after him,

etc...) Dont make excuses for his behavior, you didnt do anything

wrong and you shouldnt be made to feel you have. And by doing these

things, an alcoholic will likely never see that they have a problem

and need to get help for themselves. The key to effectively helping

an alcoholic is KNOWLEDGE. The best place to find out the knowledge

you need is to go to a Al-anon meeting. It dosnt cost anything, you

will be able to relate with the people that are there, and if you

truly care about this person its your best chance at helping him see

that he truly has a life or death problem so that he can get the

help he needs to overcome it. To the best of my knowledge, my ex

husband is still an alcoholic, but my mother finally got the help

she needed and dosnt drink anymore, and over the years of her

treatment she has truly become the mother i always wanted. My mother

is now 52 and we have the best relationship weve ever had. And the

one thing i attrbute that to is having the knowledge to help her

help herself.

I hope i have been able to give you a little advice that could

help you to help your friend...Good luck and i wish you the very

best...

 

Tina

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Thank you so much, Tina, for opening up about how this disease has effected

you in the past~ I've only known this man for 3 months, so i haven't really

allowed him into my life or heart where i need to feel obligated in helping

no more than he wants to help himself for now~ And I haven't allowed him to

come around me again intoxicated because it's makes me so angry, i dont

enjoy being angry or seeing a grown man inebriated, for it's HUGE turn off~

Anyway I have my own personal life and chronic asthma i must tend to first

and foremost before i take another lover into my life with issues such as

what i now know he has~

 

thank you again,

Hempress

 

----

 

 

10/23/04 06:11:46

 

Re: Alcoholism

 

 

 

Dear Hempress,

I can so relate to what you are going through from personal

experience. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and then married an

alcoholic, but myself never drank. An alcoholic does tend to think

differently than a normal person. They have the 'i'm invincible'

attitude when there drinking, and when there sober they dont seem to

think theyve done anything wrong and can be very defensive about

their drinking and the things they've done while drinking. They are

also super sensitive about critisism both sober and drunk. I

suffered weekly and sometimes daily beatings from both of them. over

the course of about 25 years, to the extent of needing stitches on

my head and a broken clavical from my mom, and a broken shoulder

blade and misscarrying 6 children from my ex husband. I was a

classic co-dependant. Then one day i discovered a group called Al-

anon ( http://www.alanon.org.za/ ) it was the best thing that ever

could have happened to me, and probably saved my life and that of

the 3 children i did have. There are many facts you should know

about trying to help someone with alcoholism. It is a DISEASE. It is

also the one addiction that you can physically die from when trying

to quit because of the withdrawl symptoms. The first thing you need

to do is make sure your not being a co dependant. You have to stop

supporting his efforts as an alcoholic. If he has been drinking, you

need to stay away from him until he is sober. If he has a hangover

you shouldnt take care of his personal needs as a result from his

drinking, make him do it. (i.e. headache's, cleaning up after him,

etc...) Dont make excuses for his behavior, you didnt do anything

wrong and you shouldnt be made to feel you have. And by doing these

things, an alcoholic will likely never see that they have a problem

and need to get help for themselves. The key to effectively helping

an alcoholic is KNOWLEDGE. The best place to find out the knowledge

you need is to go to a Al-anon meeting. It dosnt cost anything, you

will be able to relate with the people that are there, and if you

truly care about this person its your best chance at helping him see

that he truly has a life or death problem so that he can get the

help he needs to overcome it. To the best of my knowledge, my ex

husband is still an alcoholic, but my mother finally got the help

she needed and dosnt drink anymore, and over the years of her

treatment she has truly become the mother i always wanted. My mother

is now 52 and we have the best relationship weve ever had. And the

one thing i attrbute that to is having the knowledge to help her

help herself.

I hope i have been able to give you a little advice that could

help you to help your friend...Good luck and i wish you the very

best...

 

Tina

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First of all, Good for you. Taking control of your life and going to AA meetings is a big thing. Be proud of yourself for wanting to do it. I worked at a substance abuse treatment center for six years. Detoxing is something you want to do carefully. Do you have someone to stay with you? You can expect to not feel real good for several days. Withdrawal symptoms include severe shakiness, vomiting, thirst, feeling like you are walking around with lead weights on your legs.

A lot of hospitals or treatment centers have detoxing centers. I don't know if it will help you or not, but peppermint works really well for me when I'm nausea or sick.

Best wishes to you.

Jodie HamiltonPassion Parties573.696.2294jhamilton002www.yourpassionguide.com

 

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alcoholism

 

 

I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first time. I am really worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there any natural way at all to help with this? I don't know what to expect, but I'd assume nausea and shakes. -- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - "Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood."We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBible www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden

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hang, in there its worth it you will see the changes

in your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth having

ever comes easy.

 

--- Sea Sprite <seasprites wrote:

 

> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first

> time. I am really

> worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there

> any natural way at all to

> help with this? I don't know what to expect, but

> I'd assume nausea and

> shakes.

>

> --

> SeaSprite

> Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It

> is only to be

> understood. "

> We'd love for you to join:

> MyMothersBible

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Thank you, everyone, for such wonderful supporting comments. No, I am all alone. I'm a " closet case " and live in another city than my friends and family, so tis real easy to cover up. I expect nothing but misery. At least Peppermint and Ginger will help some. The shaking, I dunno. I do know they give you a sponsor.

 

On 8/20/06, Golden Phoenix <golden_phoenix42 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

hang, in there its worth it you will see the changesin your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth havingever comes easy.

--- Sea Sprite <seasprites wrote:> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first

> time. I am really> worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there> any natural way at all to> help with this? I don't know what to expect, but> I'd assume nausea and> shakes.

> > -- > SeaSprite> Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It> is only to be> understood. " > We'd love for you to join:>

MyMothersBible> www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden>

ghost-cpr/

houstonpi-2/http://www.myspace.com/ghost_hunter50

http://groups.myspace.com/CenterforParanormalResearchDo You ?

 

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When you start going to the AA meetings, you will meet other alcoholics. When you start sharing with others, you will usually find someone who you can relate to and connect with. You then ask this person to be your sponsor. If you go to a meeting anytime soon, I would ask for advice on how to do this by yourself (detox). Someone might know more about it or be willing to help you. I know it would seem odd to be going through all this with someone you don't know, but they have done the very same thing and there if no one better to help you. You can always email me privately if you would like.

Jodie HamiltonPassion Parties573.696.2294jhamilton002www.yourpassionguide.com

 

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Thank you, everyone, for such wonderful supporting comments. No, I am all alone. I'm a "closet case" and live in another city than my friends and family, so tis real easy to cover up. I expect nothing but misery. At least Peppermint and Ginger will help some. The shaking, I dunno. I do know they give you a sponsor.

On 8/20/06, Golden Phoenix <golden_phoenix42 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hang, in there its worth it you will see the changesin your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth havingever comes easy.

--- Sea Sprite <seasprites > wrote:> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first > time. I am really> worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there> any natural way at all to> help with this? I don't know what to expect, but> I'd assume nausea and> shakes.> > -- > SeaSprite> Marie Curie - "Nothing in life is to be feared. It> is only to be> understood."> We'd love for you to join:> MyMothersBible> www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden>

ghost-cpr/ houstonpi-2/http://www.myspace.com/ghost_hunter50 http://groups.myspace.com/CenterforParanormalResearchDo You ?

-- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - "Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood."We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBiblewww.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden

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You have no idea how much that means to me. Many, many hugs!!!

On 8/21/06, Jodie Hamilton <jhamilton002 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you start going to the AA meetings, you will meet other alcoholics. When you start sharing with others, you will usually find someone who you can relate to and connect with. You then ask this person to be your sponsor. If you go to a meeting anytime soon, I would ask for advice on how to do this by yourself (detox). Someone might know more about it or be willing to help you. I know it would seem odd to be going through all this with someone you don't know, but they have done the very same thing and there if no one better to help you. You can always email me privately if you would like.

 

 

Jodie HamiltonPassion Parties573.696.2294jhamilton002

www.yourpassionguide.com

 

 

 

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Sea Sprite

 

 

 

Monday, August 21, 2006 6:41 AM

Re: alcoholism

 

 

Thank you, everyone, for such wonderful supporting comments. No, I am all alone. I'm a " closet case " and live in another city than my friends and family, so tis real easy to cover up. I expect nothing but misery. At least Peppermint and Ginger will help some. The shaking, I dunno. I do know they give you a sponsor.

On 8/20/06, Golden Phoenix <golden_phoenix42

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hang, in there its worth it you will see the changesin your life and mind and spirit. nothing worth havingever comes easy.

--- Sea Sprite <seasprites wrote:> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first > time. I am really> worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there> any natural way at all to> help with this? I don't know what to expect, but> I'd assume nausea and> shakes.

> > -- > SeaSprite> Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It> is only to be> understood. " > We'd love for you to join:>

MyMothersBible> www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden>

ghost-cpr/

houstonpi-2/http://www.myspace.com/ghost_hunter50

http://groups.myspace.com/CenterforParanormalResearchDo You ?

 

-- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. "

We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBible

www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden

 

 

 

-- SeaSpriteMarie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood. "

We'd love for you to join: MyMothersBiblewww.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden

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, " Jodie Hamilton "

<jhamilton002 wrote:

>

> First of all, Good for you. Taking control of your life and going

to AA meetings is a big thing. Be proud of yourself for wanting to

do it. I worked at a substance abuse treatment center for six

years. Detoxing is something you want to do carefully. Do you have

someone to stay with you? You can expect to not feel real good for

several days. Withdrawal symptoms include severe shakiness,

vomiting, thirst, feeling like you are walking around with lead

weights on your legs.

> A lot of hospitals or treatment centers have detoxing centers. I

don't know if it will help you or not, but peppermint works really

well for me when I'm nausea or sick.

> Best wishes to you.

> Jodie Hamilton

> Passion Parties

> 573.696.2294

> jhamilton002

> www.yourpassionguide.com

> -

> Sea Sprite

>

> Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:56 PM

> alcoholism

>

>

> I am an alcoholic. I am starting AA for the first time. I am

really worried about the physical withdrawals. Is there any natural

way at all to help with this? I don't know what to expect, but I'd

assume nausea and shakes.

>

> --

> SeaSprite

> Marie Curie - " Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be

understood. "

> We'd love for you to join:

MyMothersBible

> www.angelfire.com/la2/wildlifeden

>

 

 

 

Congratulations for admitting this. I think you should be really

proud of yourself.

 

I don't know if this will help at all, but I've heard that coming

off of any drugs, or alcohol can be helped by eating oats. It is

supposed to ease the transition of getting off substances, and will

nourish the nervous system, and support all your important organs.

You could also drink oatstraw infusion, which you could make by the

quart (1 oz. oatstraw in a quart-jar, covered overnight with

boiling water, strained, and consumed a cup at a time).

 

Good luck.

 

Earthkitten

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Sea Sprite,

I have an idea of what it means to you. :)I have been involved with

AA since my dad got sober when I was 17. Sadly he is gone now but we

had nearly 20 years with him sober and AA had everything to do with

it. Recovering alcoholics share a bond that is stronger than

anything you can imagine. Everyone in the groups my dad attended are

still a part of our family. Much luck to you and brightest

blessings. If you EVER need some extra support, a shoulder, anything

at all please feel free to email me.

Heather

 

, " Sea Sprite "

<seasprites wrote:

>

> You have no idea how much that means to me. Many, many hugs!!!

>

> On 8/21/06, Jodie Hamilton <jhamilton002 wrote:

> >

> > When you start going to the AA meetings, you will meet other

> > alcoholics. When you start sharing with others, you will

usually find

> > someone who you can relate to and connect with. You then ask

this person to

> > be your sponsor. If you go to a meeting anytime soon, I would

ask for

> > advice on how to do this by yourself (detox). Someone might

know more about

> > it or be willing to help you. I know it would seem odd to be

going through

> > all this with someone you don't know, but they have done the

very same thing

> > and there if no one better to help you. You can always email me

privately

> > if you would like.

> > Jodie Hamilton

> > Passion Parties

> > 573.696.2294

> > jhamilton002

> > www.yourpassionguide.com

> >

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Is there an Ayurvedic cure for Alcohol addiction? This is for someone that has

been on and off alcohol for some time. Can someone please assist with something.

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I have heard acharya Balakrishna say that when you feel the urge to drink take a

cardamom and slowly you will stop getting the urges.

 

 

 

 

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