unsolicited weight loss

[Guest guest]

What does Ayurveda say about unintended weight loss? I have lost 50

lbs in 4 months, which is 15% of my body weight. My doctor makes it

very plain that she thinks I am malingering whenever I talk to her,

since she has done a cbc, gliadin antibody test, and tested for

parasites and fecal occult blood and all negative. I am not sure about

the value of the tests since I am pretty certain that I contaminated

the fecal occult test with menstrual blood by accident, but it came

back negative.

 

Whenever I go see this doc, she congratulates me on my weight loss to

the point where I get the feeling that she doesn't even see me as a

person just that I am fat.I would be happy about it too if I didn't

feel so sick and tired all the time and have to throw up or have very

bad diarrhea on an unpredictable basis. I can't plan to go anywhere. I

try to fast first so there is nothing to throw up, but that seems to

be worse. I have had to run out of the room to the restroom when I am

teaching, get sick, and come back to teach more and my classes are

only an hour and 15 minutes long. This is really messing with my life.

 

I have been anemic for almost a year but it is not bad and she claims

it is from my medications. She is overjoyed that I am losing weight to

the point where she is blind to anything bad that could be causing it.

 

My stomach feels like a rat is inside trying to gnaw its way out and I

get really bloated and throw up everything I eat almost. My diet has

gotten really awful; I was on track with keeping the blood sugar down,

but my doc told me just to eat what I can and what I can hold down is

not really great for a diabetic. The doctor says I am losing weight

because I am throwing up all my food--well, duh. She will prescribe

all the promethazine I ask for for the vomiting, but I vomit it up too

and it really just impairs me. I know people on chemo who don't throw

up as often as I do. I have started smoking pot again, so I am not

losing weight so fast or puking so much but I had rather stay legal if

at all possible.

 

My prakriti tends to be vata-pitta when in balance, but I don't feel

at all in balance and feel like maybe pitta is high since I am very

very hot all the time and with the stomach stuff. Any ideas would help.

 

Darla

[Guest guest]

Your symptoms:

* lost 50 lbs in 4 months, which is 15% body weight

* feel so sick and tired all the time and have to throw up or have

very bad diarrhea on an unpredictable basis

* anemic for almost a year, controlling diabetes somehow

* stomach feels like a rat is inside trying to gnaw its way out and I

get really bloated and throw up everything I eat almost

* but I vomit promethazine too and it impairs me

* feel like maybe pitta is high since very

very hot all the time

Together with your postings to the group in past which describe

your past medication,

 

Please get following things checked from a vaidya.

 

1. Displacement of Nabhi chakra

2. Any hardness, soreness in liver area

3. Hardness, soreness in spleen area

4. Check tongue early morning for whitish, brownish deposits

5. Do stools have foul smell, maroon/black/dark colors? any presence

of mucous in the stools? any pains while passing stools?

6. Did you have any " low fever " feeling in past few weeks? Severe pre-menstrual

cramps, pains, scanty flow?

 

Please act fast, unintended weight loss predicts a long term

treatment in ayurveda. You have come to the ded end of modern

science. Poisoning of the intestinal flora by long term synthetic

medication, worsening pH of the blood, the loss of capability to

absorb nutrients as in " Grahani " disease defined by ayurveda, leaky

gut as a result of systemic candidiasis...many reasons could be

there. Despite scientific definitions, a vaidya can cure by using

pulse and tests described in ancient tests (termed ashta-vidh

pariksha) as a guide. Ayurvedic treatments in such cases are

inexpensive but take a long time to heal both body and mind.

 

Dr Bhate

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What does Ayurveda say about unintended weight loss? I have lost 50

lbs in 4 months, which is 15% of my body weight.

[Guest guest]

This is just a support suggestion. take pomegranate juice

and bark of the fruit ground a paste say ten grams with buttermilk  will improve

your digestion to some extent.

i believe you wont loose much weight further I suspect some unwanted organism in

the gut which doctors may not track out. If you are with in India under the

supervision of ayurvedic physician take zinc, silver,iron Bhasma along with

jeeragthi lehiyam

 

R.Vidhyasagar.

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What does Ayurveda say about unintended weight loss? I have lost 50

lbs in 4 months, which is 15% of my body weight.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I am not in India, but in Louisiana. I thought it could have been c.

dificile since I had just finished taking huge doses of antibiotics for

about a month then got sick a couple of weeks later. The doc claims she

tested me for that and I don't have it. I will try the pomegranate; it

sounds good. I have had all this for a year now but just started the

vomiting and losing weight about 4 months ago. I have to find someone close

by; I can get herbs and some good advice from garrynsun.com but they are

across the country and this seems to be serious.

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> This is just a support suggestion. take pomegranate juice

> and bark of the fruit ground a paste say ten grams with buttermilk will

> improve your digestion to some extent.

[Guest guest]

Darla:

I am not interferring with the doctor's advice here but I would also

recommend another fecal test. I was plagued with problems for years

here in USA and 12 years later after a round of antimalaria medicine

while travelling was better while on it. Testing finally showed that I

had Humanis blastocystis which is normally thrown off easily but I had

gotten overrun. A three week treatment cured that and also most of my

food sensitivities esp milk ones. It is my belief that many USA labs

are unused to parasitic testing and you might want to get a second

opinion at a differet lab.

 

Hope you are feeling better soon!

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dr. Bhate,

The #4, 5, 6 are true, especially the tongue is white and very red tip and

sides have a lot of canyons in the sides. The fever feeling is bad and I

think that is a lot of hot flashes. The only soreness is around the center

of my belly between the sternum and the navel. Funny you should mention the

menstrual stuff--I had 3 periods last year and none this one so far.Any time

in the past I have skipped, I have been seriously ill. Now I am 50 though

and expecting menopause so I am not sure whether to connect the skips to the

illness or the menopause. I will look up information on the Nabhi chakra.

Grahani--is that like the Chinese triple burner, or where the Agni lives? I

have been reading about amlapitta. Is this that kind of condition?

 

I am hunting for a vaidya close by here in Louisiana and haven't found one

yet but will look more diligently. I am thankful this list is here and am

learning a lot from you all--just thought I would say so while I was

thinking about it.

Darla

 

 

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PLease get checked

1. Displacement of Nabhi chakra

2. Any hardness, soreness in liver area

3. Hardness, soreness in spleen area

4. Check tongue early morning for whitish, brownish deposits

5. Do stools have foul smell, maroon/black/dark colors? any presence

of mucous in the stools? any pains while passing stools?

6. Did you have any " low fever " feeling in past few weeks? Severe

pre-menstrual cramps, pains, scanty flow?

[Guest guest]

First go through the following post to know what is grahani

ayurveda/message/6964

 

Long term usage of immuno-suppresants and antacids such as prevacid

causes the loss of control on stomach acid secretion and causes

throwing up everything except may be fruits juices. The only food

that may not throw up will be perhaps soaked raisins/dates and juice

of bottle gourd. Try coriander (cilantro) juice before taking anyother

juice first, for few days. The case of a such patient has been

described at:

 

ayurveda/message/7272

 

Fruis such as apple, guava, papaya, pineapple (sweetened with crystal sugar in

case it is sour) will also help natural detoxification.

 

Based on the location of pain, tongue report, menstrual history,

medication history it is clear to this author that you have residues

of long term allopathy in liver, left lobe and also suffering from

candidiasis, which gives rise to a variety of auto-immune conditions.

You need to undergo liver detox under supervision. In case it is not

possible, try

eight day liver detox programme mentioned in archives, at your own

responsibility. In that case you may carry out some recommendations in

message 7272, for quick relief, you may order some herbal

formulations from aayurherb.com

 

It is important to note that the present state is the culmination of long term

stress from the worries about the daughter. Recommendations of message 7272 will

benifit her too, if taken properly. Tulsi, dates, Godanti bhasma has given

miracle result, which is posted by the wife of the patient at ayurvedaonlie.

 

Dr Bhate

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The #4, 5, 6 are true, especially the tongue is white and very red

tip and

sides have a lot of canyons in the sides. The fever feeling is bad

and I

think that is a lot of hot flashes. The only soreness is around the

center

of my belly between the sternum and the navel.

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I will look up all the links. My daughter just gave me a 2 kilo bag

of dates from Saudi Arabia and they are delicious. Most juices work well for

me. Tomato juice is good right now. The appetite is a funny thing. I still

get hungry. I had a theory that the prevacid was killing off my stomach acid

and was taking it because the cardiologist prescribed it to keep the plavix

from eating a hole in my stomach. I quit taking the plavix and that helped

some. Quit taking the prevacid and not sure if that helped or not, so

continued to take it.

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First go through the following post to know what is grahani

ayurveda/message/6964

ayurveda/message/7272

[Guest guest]

I don't know why they seem to teach a lot of the doctors here that Americans

don't get parasites. I had an Indian gi specialist once, who when I told him

I had seen pieces of tapeworm in my stool just treated me and no more

problems (years ago). I would dearly love to see him again; he was a great

doctor. I live in the south in a semi tropical area and we used to have all

kinds of parasites in the area till the health people got everyone to wear

shoes when I was very small. The environment has gotten hotter and steamier,

so I don't think the parasites really went anywhere...

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I am not interferring with the doctor's advice here but I would also

recommend another fecal test. I was plagued with problems for years

here in USA and 12 years later after a round of antimalaria medicine

while travelling was better while on it.

[Guest guest]

Darla, I recently moved to NC after living in Baton Rouge, LA for 5 years.? I

don't think anyone even knows what Ayurveda is in LA.? I would search Houston.?

I have run across some info a while back that led me to believe that there is

good Ayurveda there.? Good luck.? Katy

[Guest guest]

Houston is probably the closest. I didn't think we had any people here from

the Sanatana Dharma, either, but there is a local Gita study group, so I may

be pleasantly surprised. I haven't been lately, not feeling too good. Many

of them are professors at the local University and I am not sure how they

feel about ayurveda, but it should be interesting to find out.

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I don't think anyone even knows what Ayurveda is in LA.? I would

search Houston.? I have run across some info a while back that led me to

believe that there is good Ayurveda there.? Good luck.? Katy

[Guest guest]

You were right about the grahani. I just had an EGD test that showed gastritis

and the doctor bet my daughter $10 that I have h. pylori. The biopsies aren't in

yet. I feel like there is a mass in my abdomen, but haven't really mentioned it

to the doctor, because I felt like she didn't believe me about all the other

until I threw up 3 times during my last office visit. After 15 months of my

constant complaints, she finally scheduled the test and it does show that

something is wrong. Basically, she is a good doctor, just very very cautious.

She is in a teaching hospital and is just finishing up her residency.

 

My stomach is burning like crazy and I am still throwing up and losing weight in

spite of doubling my calories, so we will see what happens. I just posted this

because I am finding the correspondences between Ayurveda and the more Western

medicine very interesting. Before I had the test, I told the doctor about

grahani and it should be very interesting to see her face when she gets the

results.

Darla