Birth control

[Guest guest]

Wild yams are a hormone replacement. As stated below, try to do

something else or know you body well enough for the old time rhythm

method. Condoms have been found in pyramids for another oldie

 

At 06:59 PM 2/21/02 -0800, you wrote:

There's knitting, crocheting,

jogging, weightlifting, grinding corn, mashing

taro roots, men sleeping with hands on the crotch -- all of these

have

worked at some time or place as birth control.

 

Seriously, the human body is designed to reproduce, even under

adverse

conditions, and it takes a lot to divert that activity. There are

some good

books out there which give elaborate instructions on how to observe

various

body reactions in order to time sexual activity. Supposedly these

methods,

when diligently applied, have worked well.

 

I have seen legends of Native Americans who supposedly used various

plants,

but have not seen any reliable studies on these.

 

At 09:20 PM 2/18/02 EST, you wrote:

>I wanted to know if anyone knows of a safe, non-hormonal birth

control. For

>a while i was using the pill but i wasn't feeling the same and the

first

>month i was very emotional. then i started hearing things about

how it works

>the same as a antibiotic, which i have been trying to avoid. i

already heard

>of the wild yams thing and i'm pretty sure that i'm not comfortable

with that

>so i was wondering if there was anything else or if the wild yam

thing is

>actually effective?

>thanx in advance!

>

>Irene

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am going to try this myself. I have more info if you

would like it to.

Peg

 

Neem and Birth Control

 

Perhaps neem?s most amazing property is its function

as a birth control for both women and men. While

skeptical researchers continue to question many of its

healing powers, almost all agree that it is a highly

effective method of birth control. In fact, the Indian

government?s national health plan is expected to

approve a neem-based cream as a contraceptive in 2002.

 

 

In developing countries, where the number of people

with AIDS continues to grow exponentially, using neem

vaginal creams and suppositories provides a dual

benefit because ongoing studies have validated its

traditional use as an antimicrobial agent. Neem is

easily grown in tropical countries and neem oil can be

manufactured with minimum investment and technology.

 

 

In both men and women, enhanced immune systems appear

to play a major role in its effectiveness as a

contraceptive agent.

 

Birth Control for Women:

 

Vaginal creams and suppositories made with neem oil

are non-irritating and easy to use, according to a

series of researchers in Indian. In some cases, they

are even more effective than toxic spermicides, and

they may prevent many sexually transmitted diseases.

Research leading to the creation of the neem-based

cream also shows that the neem oil was effective for

up to five hours, although most spermicide creams must

be reapplied at least every hour. Neem also seems to

boost the antigen-presenting ability of the uterine

tract, activating a local immune cell population that

has a direct spermicidal effect without any apparent

side effects.

 

Neem oil also may be used as a ?morning after?

contraceptive, inhibiting the proliferation of

trophectodermal cells and preventing implantation of

remaining cells, according to research conducted at

the University of Florida. Other researchers note that

neem may even have an abortifacient effect similar to

pennyroyal, juniper berries, wild ginger, myrrh and

angelica.

 

The ?morning after? effect may be seen as long as ten

days after fertilization in rats though it was most

effective at no more than three days. In that study,

neem oil was given orally eight to ten days after

implantation of the fetus on the uterine wall. In all

cases, by day 15, the embryos were all completely

resorbed by the body. The animals regained fertility

on the next cycle showing no physical problems.

Detailed study revealed increased levels of gamma

interferon in the uterus. The neem oil enhanced the

local immune response in the uterus.

 

Post-coital use of neem oil as birth control does not

appear to work by hormonal changes but produces

changes in the organs that make pregnancy no longer

viable, according to the researchers in India and

Florida.

 

Neem oil may even provide long-term contraceptive

protection. A single injection of a small amount of

neem oil in the uterine horns produced a strong

cell-mediated immune reaction that protected against

pregnancy for up to 12 months. There were no changes

in menstrual cycles or ovarian function.

 

JOHN/AUTUMN: ANYTHING ON THE CAPSULES FOR WOMEN? I?VE

BEEN SAYING ABSOLUTELY DON?T TAKE THEM!

 

Birth Control for Men:

 

Neem may even become the first truly effective birth

control " pill " for men. Neem leaf tablets ingested for

one month produced reversible male antifertility

without affecting sperm production or libido in a

series of tests. Exploratory trials in India and the

US show neem extracts reduced fertility in male

monkeys without inhibiting libido or sperm production.

 

 

In a test of neem's birth control effects with members

of the Indian Army, daily oral doses of several drops

of neem seed oil in gelatin capsules were given to

twenty married soldiers. The effect took six weeks to

become 100 percent effective, it remained effective

during the entire year of the trial and was reversed

six weeks after the subjects stopped taking the

capsules. During this time the men experienced no

adverse side effects and retained their normal

capabilities and desires. There were no pregnancies of

any of the wives during the period of the study.

 

In U.S. studies, male antifertility activity of neem

leaf extract was studied in mice, rats, rabbits and

guinea pigs by daily oral feeding of a cold-water

extract of fresh green neem leaves. The infertility

effect was seen in treated male rats as there was a

66.7% reduction in fertility after 6 weeks, 80% after

9 weeks, and 100% after 11 weeks. There was no

inhibition of spermatogenesis. During this period

there was no decrease in body weight and no other

manifestation of toxicity observed. The infertility in

rats was not associated with loss of libido or with

impotence and the animals maintained normal mating

behavior. The male antifertility activity was

reversible in 4 to 6 weeks.

 

Another option for long-term birth control for men may

be injecting a very small amount of neem oil in the

vas deferens, which provides up to eight months of

birth control. The tests revealed no obstructions, no

change in testosterone production and no anti-sperm

antibodies. The local lymph nodes showed increased

ability to respond to infections indicating an immune

response may be responsible for the birth control

effect in men as it is in women.

 

 

 

 

Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games

http://sports.

[Guest guest]

I find this terribly interesting...

 

My first thought was to use it on female pets during heat instead of

getting them fixed! That would solve my uneasiness about giving my

pet an operation I wouldn't have done on myself but ensuring that I

don't have a thousand kittens running around!

 

herbal remedies, " P.M. " <bogduck> wrote:

> I am going to try this myself. I have more info if you

> would like it to.

> Peg

>

> Neem and Birth Control

>

> Perhaps neem?s most amazing property is its function

> as a birth control for both women and men. While

> skeptical researchers continue to question many of its

> healing powers, almost all agree that it is a highly

> effective method of birth control. In fact, the Indian

> government?s national health plan is expected to

> approve a neem-based cream as a contraceptive in 2002.

>

>

> In developing countries, where the number of people

> with AIDS continues to grow exponentially, using neem

> vaginal creams and suppositories provides a dual

> benefit because ongoing studies have validated its

> traditional use as an antimicrobial agent. Neem is

> easily grown in tropical countries and neem oil can be

> manufactured with minimum investment and technology.

>

>

> In both men and women, enhanced immune systems appear

> to play a major role in its effectiveness as a

> contraceptive agent.

>

> Birth Control for Women:

>

> Vaginal creams and suppositories made with neem oil

> are non-irritating and easy to use, according to a

> series of researchers in Indian. In some cases, they

> are even more effective than toxic spermicides, and

> they may prevent many sexually transmitted diseases.

> Research leading to the creation of the neem-based

> cream also shows that the neem oil was effective for

> up to five hours, although most spermicide creams must

> be reapplied at least every hour. Neem also seems to

> boost the antigen-presenting ability of the uterine

> tract, activating a local immune cell population that

> has a direct spermicidal effect without any apparent

> side effects.

>

> Neem oil also may be used as a ?morning after?

> contraceptive, inhibiting the proliferation of

> trophectodermal cells and preventing implantation of

> remaining cells, according to research conducted at

> the University of Florida. Other researchers note that

> neem may even have an abortifacient effect similar to

> pennyroyal, juniper berries, wild ginger, myrrh and

> angelica.

>

> The ?morning after? effect may be seen as long as ten

> days after fertilization in rats though it was most

> effective at no more than three days. In that study,

> neem oil was given orally eight to ten days after

> implantation of the fetus on the uterine wall. In all

> cases, by day 15, the embryos were all completely

> resorbed by the body. The animals regained fertility

> on the next cycle showing no physical problems.

> Detailed study revealed increased levels of gamma

> interferon in the uterus. The neem oil enhanced the

> local immune response in the uterus.

>

> Post-coital use of neem oil as birth control does not

> appear to work by hormonal changes but produces

> changes in the organs that make pregnancy no longer

> viable, according to the researchers in India and

> Florida.

>

> Neem oil may even provide long-term contraceptive

> protection. A single injection of a small amount of

> neem oil in the uterine horns produced a strong

> cell-mediated immune reaction that protected against

> pregnancy for up to 12 months. There were no changes

> in menstrual cycles or ovarian function.

>

> JOHN/AUTUMN: ANYTHING ON THE CAPSULES FOR WOMEN? I?VE

> BEEN SAYING ABSOLUTELY DON?T TAKE THEM!

>

> Birth Control for Men:

>

> Neem may even become the first truly effective birth

> control " pill " for men. Neem leaf tablets ingested for

> one month produced reversible male antifertility

> without affecting sperm production or libido in a

> series of tests. Exploratory trials in India and the

> US show neem extracts reduced fertility in male

> monkeys without inhibiting libido or sperm production.

>

>

> In a test of neem's birth control effects with members

> of the Indian Army, daily oral doses of several drops

> of neem seed oil in gelatin capsules were given to

> twenty married soldiers. The effect took six weeks to

> become 100 percent effective, it remained effective

> during the entire year of the trial and was reversed

> six weeks after the subjects stopped taking the

> capsules. During this time the men experienced no

> adverse side effects and retained their normal

> capabilities and desires. There were no pregnancies of

> any of the wives during the period of the study.

>

> In U.S. studies, male antifertility activity of neem

> leaf extract was studied in mice, rats, rabbits and

> guinea pigs by daily oral feeding of a cold-water

> extract of fresh green neem leaves. The infertility

> effect was seen in treated male rats as there was a

> 66.7% reduction in fertility after 6 weeks, 80% after

> 9 weeks, and 100% after 11 weeks. There was no

> inhibition of spermatogenesis. During this period

> there was no decrease in body weight and no other

> manifestation of toxicity observed. The infertility in

> rats was not associated with loss of libido or with

> impotence and the animals maintained normal mating

> behavior. The male antifertility activity was

> reversible in 4 to 6 weeks.

>

> Another option for long-term birth control for men may

> be injecting a very small amount of neem oil in the

> vas deferens, which provides up to eight months of

> birth control. The tests revealed no obstructions, no

> change in testosterone production and no anti-sperm

> antibodies. The local lymph nodes showed increased

> ability to respond to infections indicating an immune

> response may be responsible for the birth control

> effect in men as it is in women.

>

>

>

>

> Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games

> http://sports.

[Guest guest]

It would be hard to give to them I think but as the

post said you can't give the pills to femals the males

have to take it in that form. Oil and tea are for

woman. Like I said there is more info if needed and I

will send if wanted.

Peg

 

 

 

 

Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games

http://sports.

[Guest guest]

I would like the additional information......

 

 

--- " P.M. " <bogduck wrote:

> It would be hard to give to them I think but as the

> post said you can't give the pills to femals the males

> have to take it in that form. Oil and tea are for

> woman. Like I said there is more info if needed and I

> will send if wanted.

 

 

 

 

Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games

http://sports.

[Guest guest]

There's knitting, crocheting, jogging, weightlifting, grinding corn, mashing

taro roots, men sleeping with hands on the crotch -- all of these have

worked at some time or place as birth control.

 

Seriously, the human body is designed to reproduce, even under adverse

conditions, and it takes a lot to divert that activity. There are some good

books out there which give elaborate instructions on how to observe various

body reactions in order to time sexual activity. Supposedly these methods,

when diligently applied, have worked well.

 

I have seen legends of Native Americans who supposedly used various plants,

but have not seen any reliable studies on these.

 

At 09:20 PM 2/18/02 EST, you wrote:

>I wanted to know if anyone knows of a safe, non-hormonal birth control. For

>a while i was using the pill but i wasn't feeling the same and the first

>month i was very emotional. then i started hearing things about how it works

>the same as a antibiotic, which i have been trying to avoid. i already heard

>of the wild yams thing and i'm pretty sure that i'm not comfortable with that

>so i was wondering if there was anything else or if the wild yam thing is

>actually effective?

>thanx in advance!

>

>Irene

[Guest guest]

The native american indians used Wild Yam root.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Michael Riversong

herbal remedies

Thursday, February 21, 2002 7:59 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Birth Control

There's knitting, crocheting, jogging, weightlifting, grinding corn, mashingtaro roots, men sleeping with hands on the crotch -- all of these haveworked at some time or place as birth control.Seriously, the human body is designed to reproduce, even under adverseconditions, and it takes a lot to divert that activity. There are some goodbooks out there which give elaborate instructions on how to observe variousbody reactions in order to time sexual activity. Supposedly these methods,when diligently applied, have worked well.I have seen legends of Native Americans who supposedly used various plants,but have not seen any reliable studies on these.At 09:20 PM 2/18/02 EST, you wrote:>I wanted to know if anyone knows of a safe, non-hormonal birth control. For >a while i was using the pill but i wasn't feeling the same and the first >month i was very emotional. then i started hearing things about how it works >the same as a antibiotic, which i have been trying to avoid. i already heard >of the wild yams thing and i'm pretty sure that i'm not comfortable with that >so i was wondering if there was anything else or if the wild yam thing is >actually effective?>thanx in advance!

[Guest guest]

Actually, Wild Yams stimulate hormone production rather than replace. It is a direct bio-chemical stimulation on the pituitary and other glands to get the female body to do what it is supposed to do. It can also be used in natural birth control, but I haven't found any takers on my free offer yet. )

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Chris Busby

herbal remedies

Monday, February 11, 2002 8:12 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Birth Control

Wild yams are a hormone replacement.

[Guest guest]

I rmember a healt program some time ago talking about the air potato as a

natural birth control--now, with this migraine, I'm not able to go do a

search, but the plant has huge, chartruse, heart-shaped leaves, and produces

small, roundish, potato like fruits in the fall. It's a native to south

america, I think, and the studies showed that women who worked/gardened

around this plant rarely got pregnant.

 

I was advised long ago when my pms got really bad to use wild yam root--not

to prevent pregnancy, but to stablize my hormones. I found a deodorant at

the health food store with wy in it and used it for awhile.

 

Robin

[Guest guest]

If my Wife and mother of our three boys came to me and said she was switching to a Natural Bith control i can gaurantee it would work 100%. I wouldnt be going near her. Thats gotta work. Threre's no such thing as a little bit pregnant.

 

Tom.

 

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Ian Shillington N.D.

herbal remedies

Saturday, February 23, 2002 3:34 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Birth Control

 

Actually, Wild Yams stimulate hormone production rather than replace. It is a direct bio-chemical stimulation on the pituitary and other glands to get the female body to do what it is supposed to do. It can also be used in natural birth control, but I haven't found any takers on my free offer yet. )

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Chris Busby

herbal remedies

Monday, February 11, 2002 8:12 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Birth Control

Wild yams are a hormone replacement.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Dear friends,

Greetings.

I am new to this list. I will like to suggest a simple method which

works about 70 times out of 100. The method is useful only after

menses start and not for the period between delivery and start of new

menses/prignancy.

 

From day one of monthly cycle till day 8, eat 1/2 tsp of turmeric

powder witha tsp of honey empty stomach, afternoon and at bedtime.

That's all.

 

Shirishbhate

 

herbal remedies , " Lauren Bastow "

<lbastow@s...> wrote:

> Greetings all,

> I have been off list for awhile but I'm back now. I have moved into

my

> new house and had our new baby. Her name is Callia June Bastow and

she

> was born on June 6th.

>

> My question is this, are there any herbal solutions to birth

control? I

> haven't heard of anything that is reliable so I would appreciate it

if

> anybody has any experience in this area. Thank you so much and my

hubby

> also thanks you:)

[Guest guest]

Wild Yam can be used as a form of bc.

 

You can also use the saliva testing daily to track fertile days and

avoid baby-dancing on your fertile days. )

 

~A

 

WILD YAM:

Wild yam (Dioscorea villosa) is another anti-fertility herb that has

been tested by small groups of modern women. Since birth-control

pills were originally made from this plant, it is not at all

surprising that it has the effect of blocking conception when taken

daily in rather large doses: either a cup of tea or two capsules

taken three times a day. Does it have detrimental effects? Current

studies are too small to show any, but there is a possibility that

there could be.

 

Wild yam contains diosigenin, used as a source material for

pharmaceutical cortisone and progesterone, including that used in so-

called " natural " pregesterone creams. There isn't any progesterone or

cortisone in the plant; a long laboratory process creates them, and

they are far from natural.

 

When consumed orally, three capsules three times a day or a cup of

tea twice a day, the diosigenin may be converted into progesterone in

a woman's body, thus decreasing the possibility of conception. There

is no scientific validation of the idea that creams made from wild

yam have any beneficial effect on health. In fact, it is impossible

for plant hormones to be absorded by human skin.

 

Interestingly enough, if wild yam is taken is small doses (a cup of

tea or 10-20 drops of the tincture) for two weks only -- from onset

of menses until mid-period or ovulation --*it increases fertility*!!!

The diosigenin seems to be converted into LH and FSH, hormones which

are needed to make the egg ready to be fertilized.

[Guest guest]

Here is an interesting article:

 

Friday, 11 October, 2002, 00:17 GMT 01:17 UK -BBC NEWS The common lemon - a cure for the HIV virus? Australian scientists believe lemon juice could act as a cheap and effective birth control and help stop the spread of the deadly Aids disease. Reproductive scientist Roger Short, from the University of Melbourne, said laboratory tests have shown that lemon juice killed sperm and the HIV virus, which often develops into Aids. Speaking on the Australian television programme Catalyst, Mr Short said lemons could be an alternative to costly HIV-drugs and traditional forms of contraceptives in developing countries. According to Mr Short, lemons could be used as a contraceptive by soaking a piece of cotton wool in the juice and inserting it into the vagina before sex. "We can show in the lab that lemon juice is very effective in immobilising human sperm and also very effective in killing HIV," he said. Medieval roots The practice of using lemon juice to prevent pregnancy was commonly used in medieval times, including by the legendary lothario Casanova, but has been forgotten by modern medicine. "About 300 years ago, Mediterranean women used lemon juice as their main method of contraception," said Mr Short. His findings have been challenged by other scientists, who warned of the potential of damaging side-effects. "It's possible that he's [Mr Short] onto something but it clearly needs to be followed up in clinical trials in humans," said Andrew Grulich, from the Australian Society for HIV Medicine. "The acidity is something that may well help inactivate and kill HIV, but we also need to be concerned that the level of acidity might also damage the vaginal lining and allow an entry point for HIV," said Mr Grulich.

 

Don Quai

 

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stamper_fool

herbal remedies

Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:59 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: birth control

Too much copper is toxic. Do some research on the net. Check out Anne Louis Gittleman. She has a book about too much copper.> > Hey, what is the opinion on IUD (intrauterine device) for birth control. I know that the ancient Egyptians used copper for birth control and I haven't heard any toxic effects from that. I am looking for a natural method of birth control (I.e. without hormone interference) and my midwife suggested this. Comments?Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/17/2003 11:02:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, stamper_fool writes:

 

 

Too much copper is toxic. Do some research on the net. Check out

Anne Louis Gittleman. She has a book about too much copper.

 

 

>

> Hey, what is the opinion on IUD (intrauterine device) for birth

control. I know that the ancient Egyptians used copper for birth

control and I haven't heard any toxic effects from that. I am looking

 

Not all IUDs are copper thankfully - that is what I am planning on getting. They are made of other things as well---but I am so tired right now I cant think of it lol. If you want I can send you some websites (whoever is asking about the IUDs)

 

Erin

[Guest guest]

Wild carrot seeds is also effective to prevent conception. You use it fresh

or in tincture. There are also ginger and spearmint that are effective to

starts menstruation. If you want to know more information, the book : " the

childbearing years " from Susun Weed have a list of plants that can be used

with consideration notes for some. It is verry interesting.

 

 

 

Neige

 

 

~*~§~*~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> " stamper_fool " <stamper_fool

>herbal remedies

>herbal remedies

>[herbal remedies] Re: birth control

>Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:59:00 -0000

>

>

>Too much copper is toxic. Do some research on the net. Check out

>Anne Louis Gittleman. She has a book about too much copper.

>

>

> >

> > Hey, what is the opinion on IUD (intrauterine device) for birth

>control. I know that the ancient Egyptians used copper for birth

>control and I haven't heard any toxic effects from that. I am looking

>for a natural method of birth control (I.e. without hormone

>interference) and my midwife suggested this. Comments?

>

 

_______________

MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous !

http://fr.ca.search.msn.com/

[Guest guest]

I second the recommendation on the book " Herbs in the

childbearing years " by Susun Weed! It has tons of good info in it as

well as a list of herbs to provide birth control.

 

Here is her website as well:

http://www.susanweed.com/

 

~A

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/27/2004 8:33:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Rasberry4000 writes:

 

What is good to use for a healthy form of birth control?

 

Sammy

That is a tough question.. The reason is because if your wrong you have a baby that you were not yet prepared for. Abstaining from sex is 100% LOL

 

Condoms are not 100%, neither is any prescription form of birth control. There are herbs and methods but they are not 100% either...

 

If I could tell you one thing it would be Watch who you breed with,,,some people have 1 night stands and then get linked to a loser the rest of their life and then the child is left to deal with the mess. Waiting until marriage seems old-fashioned but is the best way to prevent an unwanted parent more than an unwanted pregnancy. At least if you are married and you get pregnant at the wrong time you are with someone you love and that is best for the child...

 

I will get grief for this I am sure, you do what you want just know what could happen and with whoever your having sex with. This is NOT a religious topic just common sense!

 

God Bless,

Jamie in Az

[Guest guest]

the withdrawal method is what we use. there is something else, i can't rememb3r what it is called but it seem slike a lot of work; it has to do with one figuring out when they are ovulating and not having sex then.

Peace and happiness,

 

Elizabeth Elliott, Birth Doula and Childbirth Educator

@GilaNet.com

[Guest guest]

Sorry but the only one I know of is a condom.

 

Zeb

 

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Rasberry4000

herbal remedies

Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:47 AM

Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

What is good to use for a healthy form of birth control?

 

SammyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

or orange juice...

love.. granny lee

 

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zeb

herbal remedies

Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:49 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

Sorry but the only one I know of is a condom.

 

Zeb

[Guest guest]

????????????????

Candace

 

Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end.

 

-

leo

herbal remedies

Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:47 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

or orange juice...

love.. granny lee

 

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zeb

herbal remedies

Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:49 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

Sorry but the only one I know of is a condom.

 

Zeb

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The reason that we don't have a natural thing for birth control is the whole idea of using nature to obstruct nature. Now don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people that are pro-birth control, I'm one of them but trying to find something that god put on this earth for us to use to stop a natural process is well, contradictory.

 

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:57 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

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leo

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:47 PM

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or orange juice...

love.. granny lee

 

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zeb

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:49 PM

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Sorry but the only one I know of is a condom.

 

Zeb

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Okay, gotcha!

I was thinking of all these weird ways one could possibly use orange juice for birth control. : D

 

Candace

 

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Lauren Bastow

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Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:27 AM

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The reason that we don't have a natural thing for birth control is the whole idea of using nature to obstruct nature. Now don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people that are pro-birth control, I'm one of them but trying to find something that god put on this earth for us to use to stop a natural process is well, contradictory.

 

 

Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:57 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

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leo

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:47 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

or orange juice...

love.. granny lee

 

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zeb

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:49 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

Sorry but the only one I know of is a condom.

 

Zeb

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Sounds like what they called "the rythm method" when I was younger.

 

JohnELIZABETH ELLIOTT <eliz3378 wrote:

 

the withdrawal method is what we use. there is something else, i can't rememb3r what it is called but it seem slike a lot of work; it has to do with one figuring out when they are ovulating and not having sex then.

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Orange Juice??? What?? OK Granny spill the beans on this remedy.

 

Zebbers

 

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leo

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:47 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

or orange juice...

love.. granny lee

 

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zeb

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:49 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Birth Control

 

Sorry but the only one I know of is a condom.

 

Zeb

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington