Asthma

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Here is some brief information on asthma and the points one person used to

relieve his asthma. L is the abbreviation for Lung (abbreviated Lu or LU in

some texts), and St is the abbreviation for Stomach.

 

If you have a book such as Maciocia's Foundations book that goes into detail

on the points, you may want to look up these particular points and see what

each does. After doing this, a good learning exercise is to try to figure

out what Root(s) the person's asthma is a manifestation of.

 

Victoria

 

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>After 2 years of occidental medicine treatment with bronchodilators,

>antinflamatories,twice a day therapy and two tablets of singulair.

>Acupuncture treatment was administer and all medication was removed,

>pulmonary function test showed an increase of FV1 by 18 %.. After a year of

>acupuncture treatment twice a week, no atacks have been expirienced and no

>medication taken. For QA, Qc and validation , pulmonary function test have

>been performed every two months and stability of the condition has

>prevailed according to results. This patient has suffered in the past acute

>chemical pneumonia, acute asthma and chronic bronchitis due to exposure

>during his carrer.

>MRI were performed prior to acupuncture were a brochio spasm was diagnosed,

>and no response to albuterol aerosols was obtained.

>Acupunture treatment has been the following: L-7.L1,L2,St.40 twice every

>two days for a month initially and same treatment twice a week for a year

>as maintenance therapy with the reported results.

>Moxa has been applied occasionally as alternate to acupuncture in L1, L2.

>

>Agustin A. Ruiz-Guardiola

>Studied acupuncture in the school of medicine, and has been treating myself

>, I am the patient. By profession ,Chemist speciallized in critical raw

>materials and toxic chemicals. Expert in handling chlorine leaks and other

>chemicals.

>

>Agustin A. Ruiz Guardiola

>chemist

>

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In a message dated 1/17/01 9:27:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

PEARLY2 writes:

 

<< In answer to your question...I believe that eating certain things like

sugar and starches , cheese and most dairy trigger the asthma.>>

 

ive had the same experience. eliminating dairy has made me a thousand times

healthier. i used to take accolate and albuterol and since i stopped with

dairy ive had no asthma symptoms, even though i havent taken either

medications in almost 3 years. Also with allergies, viruses and infections -

I don't get as sick as i used to.

[Guest guest]

I would like the recipe Pearl.....

 

I would like nothing better than to stop using Albuterol and Flovent inhalers.

Did you experience hair loss with them ?

 

Thanks....malinda

 

PEARLY2 wrote:

 

> >>ive had the same experience. eliminating dairy has made me a thousand

> times healthier. i used to take accolate and albuterol and since i

> stopped with dairy ive had no asthma symptoms, even though i havent

> taken either medications in almost 3 years. Also with allergies, viruses

> and infections - I don't get as sick as i used to. >>

>

> This is true ! I also take stinging nettles when I am in season, and I

> take NAC before season. I take citrus bioflavonoids when I am having

> trouble.

> I have a recipe that a Chiropractor gave me many years ago that works

> well to open up the bronchial tubes...it is a cranberry tea. If anyone

> wants it , I will post it. However.... " if " I do not " prepare " myself

> " before " season...( like this year ), then I feel like all of these

> naturals do not work and I am then on chemicals.

> I make a fennel tea that helps...there are all sorts of helps....BUT, I

> just didn't prepare this year. I started a new and a very stressful job

> and so I just didn't think of myself.

>

> Pearl (NY)

>

>

> Country Living at it's finest

> /community/Countrylife

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> ian_shillington

[Guest guest]

Dear Pearl

Please post tea recipe for sinus.

Thanks

Ruth in Western Canada

[Guest guest]

I would like the recipe for the tea please,

 

Jamie

-

<PEARLY2

<herbal remedies >

Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:52 PM

[herbal remedies] Asthma

 

 

> >>ive had the same experience. eliminating dairy has made me a thousand

> times healthier. i used to take accolate and albuterol and since i

> stopped with dairy ive had no asthma symptoms, even though i havent

> taken either medications in almost 3 years. Also with allergies, viruses

> and infections - I don't get as sick as i used to. >>

>

> This is true ! I also take stinging nettles when I am in season, and I

> take NAC before season. I take citrus bioflavonoids when I am having

> trouble.

> I have a recipe that a Chiropractor gave me many years ago that works

> well to open up the bronchial tubes...it is a cranberry tea. If anyone

> wants it , I will post it. However.... " if " I do not " prepare " myself

> " before " season...( like this year ), then I feel like all of these

> naturals do not work and I am then on chemicals.

> I make a fennel tea that helps...there are all sorts of helps....BUT, I

> just didn't prepare this year. I started a new and a very stressful job

> and so I just didn't think of myself.

>

> Pearl (NY)

>

>

> Country Living at it's finest

> /community/Countrylife

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> ian_shillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

So would I....thanks, malinda

 

 

SPARERIBAZ wrote:

 

> I would like the recipe for the tea please,

>

> Jamie

> -

> <PEARLY2

> <herbal remedies >

> Sunday, January 21, 2001 9:52 PM

> [herbal remedies] Asthma

>

> > >>ive had the same experience. eliminating dairy has made me a thousand

> > times healthier. i used to take accolate and albuterol and since i

> > stopped with dairy ive had no asthma symptoms, even though i havent

> > taken either medications in almost 3 years. Also with allergies, viruses

> > and infections - I don't get as sick as i used to. >>

> >

> > This is true ! I also take stinging nettles when I am in season, and I

> > take NAC before season. I take citrus bioflavonoids when I am having

> > trouble.

> > I have a recipe that a Chiropractor gave me many years ago that works

> > well to open up the bronchial tubes...it is a cranberry tea. If anyone

> > wants it , I will post it. However.... " if " I do not " prepare " myself

> > " before " season...( like this year ), then I feel like all of these

> > naturals do not work and I am then on chemicals.

> > I make a fennel tea that helps...there are all sorts of helps....BUT, I

> > just didn't prepare this year. I started a new and a very stressful job

> > and so I just didn't think of myself.

> >

> > Pearl (NY)

> >

> >

> > Country Living at it's finest

> > /community/Countrylife

> >

> >

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

> to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

> as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

> >

> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > ian_shillington

> >

> >

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> ian_shillington

[Guest guest]

with regards to asthma I've heard certain breathing methods

(Alexander technique?) are good in reducing the amount of

medication you need to take.

 

Michael

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I am just wondering what kind of technique was used on those points,

tonifying, reducing, or something else. Anyone has any idea?

 

It always makes me wondering when some points are specified but no

technique is given as different technique produces different results.

Am I missing something?

 

I am not a pro, just curious about TCM and how fascinating it is.

 

Thanks,

Max.

http://www.ALTMAX.com

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Judy Fitzgerald " <victoria_dragon@h...>

wrote:

> Here is some brief information on asthma and the points one person

used to

> relieve his asthma. L is the abbreviation for Lung (abbreviated Lu

or LU in

> some texts), and St is the abbreviation for Stomach.

>

> If you have a book such as Maciocia's Foundations book that goes

into detail

> on the points, you may want to look up these particular points and

see what

> each does. After doing this, a good learning exercise is to try to

figure

> out what Root(s) the person's asthma is a manifestation of.

>

> Victoria

>

> ASTHMA

> > The

> > Journal of

> >

> > Welcome Page

> > Shop online

> > JCM Subscriptions

> > Case Histories

> > Latest issue

> > Index of back issues Related sites

> > NEWS NEWS NEWS

> > Sample articles

> > Book reviews

> > How to

> > A Manual of Acupuncture

> >

>

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> >

> >

> >

> >ASTHMA

> >

> >After 2 years of occidental medicine treatment with

bronchodilators,

> >antinflamatories,twice a day therapy and two tablets of singulair.

> >Acupuncture treatment was administer and all medication was

removed,

> >pulmonary function test showed an increase of FV1 by 18 %.. After

a

year of

> >acupuncture treatment twice a week, no atacks have been

expirienced

and no

> >medication taken. For QA, Qc and validation , pulmonary function

test have

> >been performed every two months and stability of the condition has

> >prevailed according to results. This patient has suffered in the

past acute

> >chemical pneumonia, acute asthma and chronic bronchitis due to

exposure

> >during his carrer.

> >MRI were performed prior to acupuncture were a brochio spasm was

diagnosed,

> >and no response to albuterol aerosols was obtained.

> >Acupunture treatment has been the following: L-7.L1,L2,St.40 twice

every

> >two days for a month initially and same treatment twice a week for

a year

> >as maintenance therapy with the reported results.

> >Moxa has been applied occasionally as alternate to acupuncture in

L1, L2.

> >

> >Agustin A. Ruiz-Guardiola

> >Studied acupuncture in the school of medicine, and has been

treating myself

> >, I am the patient. By profession ,Chemist speciallized in

critical

raw

> >materials and toxic chemicals. Expert in handling chlorine leaks

and other

> >chemicals.

> >

> >Agustin A. Ruiz Guardiola

> >chemist@i...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Top of page

>

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> >

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Dear JC,

Have had some great success in handling asthma, and would love to take you on as a case (never handled a genetic case before), but don't think that it would be much difference in curing a genetic case as a regular case.

 

Oooooooooops, bad doctor, bad Naturopath, shame on me, (not supposed to use the word "CURE" ;o) LOL.

 

I am going to start a thread called, the "DWINDLING SPIRAL OF DISEASE", and will post it shortly after this one. Read it and then give me a call if you get the chance. This should answer all your immediate questions as to why this has occurred in your family and for yourself and why you keep having to have a stronger dosage as time goes by.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Schwillings

herbal remedies

Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:57 AM

[herbal remedies] Asthma

 

Hello,

 

Has anybody had good results with any specific herbal, nutritional, or homeopathic fomulas for asthma (genetic, triggered primarily by allergies)?

 

One of the main reasons I started questioning conventional medicine several years ago was their lack of a treatment for the asthma that runs in our family. All they can do is perscribe inhalers which get progressivily stronger, maiking it seem like either one builds up a tolerance to the steroids in them, or that they make the lungs worse altogether. I've watched woman after woman in our family's health and happiness destroyed by steroids and chemical "potions". I know perscription meds are better than dying from not being able to breath (yes, its that serious), but there has to be a better way. I've been doing quite a bit of research and wanted to hear from you guys too.

 

For now, this is where I'm starting -

1. eliminating any suspect foods and other foods that commonly trigger allergies. Later I'll reintroduce and test.

2. regular (5day a week) aerobic and toning excercise.

3. vitamin C and grapeseed extract in addition to the regular mulit-vitamin

 

So far my asthma is the least serious in the family. I give credit to the natural health alternatives I've been using for a few years and God. But even I have been bumped up on inhaler strength once. Its my mission to find a way to break our dependence on steroids and doctors.

 

BTW - Can the detox formulas and programs help clear steroids out of the body?

 

Thanks, JC

[Guest guest]

I use essential oil of mullein for my asthma and it seems to work great.

 

Marcia

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies, " Schwillings " <ajschwilling@p...> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> Has anybody had good results with any specific herbal, nutritional,

or homeopathic fomulas for asthma (genetic, triggered primarily by

allergies)?

>

Hi,

 

I take care of two boys, the younger one, 10 had asthma. They

prescribed steriods for him, two different types, a years worth at

that.

I knew once on cortisones, the body would only require more and more

until finally they just didn't work anymore and I knew it would make

the problem more severe in the long run.

I put him on some good vitamins, buffered powdered vitamin C, and

essential oils, removed sugar, dairy and wheat completely from his

diet, taught their dad how to cook for them, and in two weeks for the

first time in his life he was cough/gag free. It's been just over two

years now and even though there is a real bad mold problem at his

school, I think he has been ill one time with a cold, which was short

lived and has not had an asthma attack. But he had only a mild case

of asthma.

We never did put him on the steriods.

His brother was ADD and this was the very diet I intended for him

anyway. So now the younger one is asthma free and the older one is

pulling A's. Worked out great for them.

I really think that MSM would greatly help you, if you are not on

blood thinners, but only the right brand, there are only two that are

decent, the rest are either copies ordered in from from China and

bottled here in the US and/or mostly fillers.

1-877-511-THIO (oeiginal manufacterer)You can get the powdered type

which is cheaper or the tablets or capsules. Either way start off

slow and increase either the powder by a half of a teaspoon 3 times a

day every 6 days till you hit the dosage right for you, or increase a

tablet or capsule every 10 days 3 x's a day.

And I believe a buffered powdered vitamin C would also greatly help

you used to bowel tolerance. It is a natural antihystamine and it

works GREAT!

Both are EXCELLENT for coming against allergies, they truly do help

stop them and I speak from not only personal experience, but for all

they have helped, my daughter included.

I sure hope that helps some.

I am looking forward to Doc's paper on asthma, I am sure that will

help.

Blessings,

holyroller

[Guest guest]

Looks like you're on the right track. I know garlic has been pretty good

for a lot of asthma cases, either raw or in pill form.

 

Here's a strange question -- and if you don't want to answer, i'll

understand. Many years ago i saw in one of the Louise Hay books, a mention

of athsma being connected to a lack of affection in a family. So, do

members of your family tend to demonstrate affection physically, or not?

 

At 08:57 AM 11/28/01 -0600, you wrote:

>Hello,

>

>Has anybody had good results with any specific herbal, nutritional, or

homeopathic fomulas for asthma (genetic, triggered primarily by allergies)?

>

> One of the main reasons I started questioning conventional medicine

several years ago was their lack of a treatment for the asthma that runs in

our family. All they can do is perscribe inhalers which get progressivily

stronger, maiking it seem like either one builds up a tolerance to the

steroids in them, or that they make the lungs worse altogether. I've

watched woman after woman in our family's health and happiness destroyed by

steroids and chemical " potions " . I know perscription meds are better than

dying from not being able to breath (yes, its that serious), but there has

to be a better way. I've been doing quite a bit of research and wanted to

hear from you guys too.

>

>For now, this is where I'm starting -

>1. eliminating any suspect foods and other foods that commonly trigger

allergies. Later I'll reintroduce and test.

>2. regular (5day a week) aerobic and toning excercise.

>3. vitamin C and grapeseed extract in addition to the regular mulit-vitamin

>

>So far my asthma is the least serious in the family. I give credit to the

natural health alternatives I've been using for a few years and God. But

even I have been bumped up on inhaler strength once. Its my mission to find

a way to break our dependence on steroids and doctors.

>

>BTW - Can the detox formulas and programs help clear steroids out of the body?

>

>Thanks,

>JC

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Kim,

forgot...try panther piss or got any lobelia tincture"

Suzi

sirona71 <kims83 wrote:

Hi all...I am looking for some kind of emergency asthma relief. I've got a cold and my asthma has been really acting up. I know there are no real quick fixes...but some tried and true remedies would be greatly appreciated.Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

 

Tincture of Lobelia will help quite a lot as will, Are you ready for this,

Valerian decotion with cayenne added to relieve spasms. Asthma is caused by

malnutrition. Time to change that diet and kick the gin and tonic. Although

you may have irritated nerves which can also lead to asthma. You need plenty

of fresh air, outdoor exercise, and good ventilation during sleep. If you

wish more info then I will provide you with more but hopefully this will get

you through the nasties. I hear a liver cleansing calling you along with the

bowel cleansing, kidney cleansing, and total body cleansing. I do hope this

helps ya.

 

Don

 

 

 

 

 

 

> " sirona71 " <kims83

>herbal remedies

>herbal remedies

>[herbal remedies] Asthma

>Fri, 25 Oct 2002 02:19:39 -0000

>

>Hi all...I am looking for some kind of emergency asthma relief. I've

>got a cold and my asthma has been really acting up. I know there are

>no real quick fixes...but some tried and true remedies would be

>greatly appreciated.

>

>Kim

>

 

 

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Suzi & Kim,

 

Yes the total tonic will be of great help once the condition is under

control and the diet gets changed to mostly fruits and vegetables. Then the

total tonic will do amazing wonders for toning the whole body and adding in

the nutrition that is lacking.

 

Don

 

 

 

 

 

 

>Suzanne Nottmeier <suziesgoats

>herbal remedies

>herbal remedies

>Re: [herbal remedies] Asthma

>Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:56:09 -0700 (PDT)

>

>

>Kim,

>would total tonic be of any help????

>Suzi

> sirona71 <kims83 wrote:Hi all...I am looking for some kind

>of emergency asthma relief. I've

>got a cold and my asthma has been really acting up. I know there are

>no real quick fixes...but some tried and true remedies would be

>greatly appreciated.

>

>Kim

>

>

>

>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

>1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

>2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

>remedy.

>3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

>to

>prescribe for your own health.

>We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

>they behave themselves.

>Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

>following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

>It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

>list members, you are agreeing to

>be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

>members free of any liability.

>

>Dr. Ian Shillington

>Doctor of Naturopathy

>Dr.IanShillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kim,

 

Yes, decoct away. Just plug the nose and give her a whirl. LOL

 

Don

 

 

 

 

 

 

> " sirona71 " <kims83

>herbal remedies

>herbal remedies

>[herbal remedies] re: asthma

>Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:22:37 -0000

>

>ok, guys, thanks for the suggestions.

>

>I drink coffee all the time (I kinda use that as my excuse for

>drinking coffee *weg*)

>

>I have Lobelia capsules, but no tincture. And Don, I do have

>valerian root. Did you say to make a decoction out of it? Well, I

>don't really find the taste of valerian to be too disagreeable, just

>the smell. So I'll give that a shot.

>

>And to the poster about the emergency room...I know all too well

>when to go to the er. I've been there more than once over the past

>couple years. Two years ago I was intubated for it, so I don't take

>chances.

>

>Thanks again all

>Kim

>

 

 

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Dear all pranic healers,

 

I have been treating Prakash for acute Asthma regularly for sometime now.

However I have not had much success, he feels relieved after the healing

but he gets affected again after a couple of hours. I have been treating

him for one and a half months now with regular healing of about 3 times

weekly for most weeks.

 

Any inputs that can help improve the results and provide a cure are very

welcome, normally asthma should be easily cured through pranic healing.

 

In case anyone out there requires further information with a view to

assisting, please contact Kumar Sabnani, email : reevee.

 

Thanks Kumar

[Guest guest]

Lobelia Tincture ; Panther Piss; The Total Body Cleanse Program

also check the message archives...type in asthma and do a search...

Suzi

feuer763 <Feuer763 wrote: does anyone know any herbal cures for asthma. thanks.

[Guest guest]

Well...I can tell you that I have had enormous luck with Lobelia. I

take it in capsule form. My asthma is pretty severe. Lobelia has

helped me cut back on alot of the meds that I am on...especially

including them darned steriods. I am happy to say that I have not

taken them in months.

 

Now, I don't take it on a regular basis. I actually don't know how

long one could safely take it...meaning, I don't know if it is

something that could be used long term. So every so often an attack

sneaks up on me. Whenever I have bad weeks where I'm really wheezy,

that's when I start it.

 

Just one word of caution. Start at a lower dose to see how you

tolerate it. They don't call it puke weed for nothing

 

Kim

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/5/2003 8:42:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, vze4dm6p writes:

 

 

I think herbalists and naturopaths are more inclined to look for

parasites as a source of a problem. You may want to start there.

 

Kim

 

And if it is the parasites you fix them and it should eventually clear up the asthma completely. Helda Clark talks a lot about parasites. It is a suggestion worth looking into. Because if it is parasties and theyre not killed off asthma med is just going to soothe the lungs and bronchi temporarily and try to bring inflammation or whatever down from them, but this isnt worth it. It's like going around in a circle and making you sicker in the process

Erin

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to pipe up and give Doc an " amen " on his asthma advice. Thanks

to it I have been medication free *and* asthma free for almost two years -

and the first female on my mom's side of the family to be so. He knows what

he's talking about here!

 

JC

 

--

 

You need to get them on a serious detox before you cut them cold turkey on

their meds.

You also need an herbal tincture like Lobelia to act as a med substitute

when you do start them on the detox.

Love,

Doc

 

Tiffany Schaibley <ericandtiffanys wrote:

I agree...but Im thnking how can I prevent the asthma problems without

keeping them on something? Up to about a month ago they were on Flovent or

Singulair all the time to protect them from havinf asthma attacks. So would

they not have to be on something to prevent them?? I mean if I wait to give

it to them when they are sick, I havent done anything to prevent it...Im

talking in circles so hopefullt it makes sense.

Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

HI Giselle,

I had a very bad time with asthma that I got as an adult. It was very

debilitating and devastating and so I feel compelled to tell you my

story. I went to a specialist and was tested...I was allergic to

everything I was tested for. I finally went to an asthma support

group...the doctor speaking to the group one night was speaking about

recent experiement that was done at at leading research hospital out

in the midwest..a jewish run hospital that deals in asthma. The

results of this test were truly amazing as the children were getting

better results with this natural method...some were doing things

physically that they never did before.

 

The doctor gave out instruction sheets and I followed the

instruction..and what a change in made in my like....just a touch of

asthma now...don't even use an inhaler.

 

Take one cup of warm water....dissolve one-half teaspoon of non-

iodized salt and a pinch of baking soda (for proper ph). Take a baby

nose syringe and tilt your head over the sink (I use the toilet) and

squeeze the water up your nose letting it drain out your mouth. You

do this everyday as it rinses allergens and infection out of your

sinuses...then at night nothing drains down into your lungs either.

Make sure the water is warm or it will hurt. It takes a little

getting used to but now I could probably put hose up my nose and turn

it on...lol. It truly works! I think at the natural alternative

stores they have something similar called a pot....someone else on

this forum can tell you more about that. It also suggested on the

handout that a tooth syringe?? you know those battery operated things

that flush out between teeth..said you could use one of them.

Hope you try this...let me know how it works out if you do.

Lettie

 

 

, " doctorhawk "

<doctorhawk@s...> wrote:

> Has anyone ever used a product called ClearLungs? I have Asthma

and some suggested this product could be helpful. If someone has

other suggestions this would also be greatly appreciated.

>

> Gisele

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

I am just following the different mails and topics, which are very interesting. Sorry could you tell me what MSM is?

Thanks

Morgan

 

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musicgirl1993

Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:15 PM

Re: Asthma

MSM will cure it..it did for me ) Kim

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[Guest guest]

Dear Gisele,

 

Asthma is an inflammatory condition which responds very favorably to

natural herbals containing NDGA. In my 30 some years in the

nutritional industry, I have seen many interesting botanicals and am

continually humbled by the simple principle that: If a condition

exists, its resolution is preexistent in the natural environ we call

our planet.

 

 

What is most intriguing is that allopathic medicine often ignores the

simple fact that all healing elements contain both energetic and

nutraceutical implications. The pharmaceutical approach is that of

synthesizing a natural herbal molecule and thereby gaining exclusing

rights. However, medicine most often normalizes the vibration of the

individual to that of its own generic vibration. Thus, although

apparent symptom relief results, the individual causative factors are

suppressed or subordinated to the controlling impact of the medicine.

 

 

Here is the major difference between the allopathic and the

integrative approach to medicine and the natural botanical and

synthetic pharmaceutical approach. Herbals act to seamlessly

integrate their inherent vibration with that of the individual who is

physically or physiologically challenged. Their application takes

into consideration both the range of vibration within the botanical

and that within the individual. Hence, the individual remains

actively involved with the healing process as the botanicals call

forth through magnetic resonance the proper vibration of healing from

the individuals natural immune mechanisms.

 

 

 

With this in mind, I would like to suggest that you and others who

suffer from inflammatory restrictions, visit these web sites and

download the book " Treating Herpes Naturally through Larrea

tridentata " by W. Dennis Clark, Ph.D. There are many viral and

inflammatory conditions that haved their roots in the variety of

Herpes strains endemic throughout this planet. Surprisingly enough,

asthma has a viral component. A virus seeks the weakest physiological

confluence within the body. The lignins and flavonoids within the

resin from this plant, known in its wildcrafted form as chapparal or

creosote bush are configured in a process that removes all toxicity

and standardizes and stabilizes the botanical.

 

 

 

You will be simply amazed at the immediacy with which one can become

free of an asthmatic seizure and the degree to which one can wean

from regular inhaler use. Please visit this web site, downloand the

book and if you want, contact me at DrSABrown. The web site

is http://www.freeherpesbook.com/default.jsp?sourceID=N2uk3zW6x34cYB8

 

Much Love in Spirit,

 

Stephen

 

 

 

 

, " doctorhawk "

<doctorhawk@s...> wrote:

> Has anyone ever used a product called ClearLungs? I have Asthma

and some suggested this product could be helpful. If someone has

other suggestions this would also be greatly appreciated.

>

> Gisele

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am very New to this interesting group.I am a post graduate

Ayurveda Consultant from Mumbai.Well I can say from my little

experience of my last 12 years of practise in Ayurvedic Medicine,

Ayurveda can be of a great help to asthama patients.What I mean is

not just Ayurvedic drugs but entire change in a lifestyle based on

Ayurvedic principles, ayurvedic philosophy !!Please vist my site in

detail to know a little more about Ayurveda www.ayurvision.com

Wishing you all a very Happy Healthy Peaceful & Prosperous New Year !

With warm regards,

Prof.Dr.Aashish Phadke,Mumbai,India

 

- In , " MorganTintagel "

<morgantintagel@b...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I am just following the different mails and topics, which are very

interesting. Sorry could you tell me what MSM is?

> Thanks

> Morgan

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> musicgirl1993@a...

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:15 PM

> Re: Asthma

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>

> MSM will cure it..it did for me ) Kim

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>

>

> Have you tried Chiropractic? I have seen some people with

asthma get great results.

> Dawn

>

>

>

>

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