Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Kathy, No point in discussing this any further with you. You have been utterly and totally converted to this way of thinking, and if someone has cancer, you will find the depression and the death wish. Whether or not the cancer patient actually had depression is another thing. If it can't be proven, and it can't, then you just reason that they hid it somehow. It almost reeks of primitive religious practices, at least in the amount of unreason present. I didn't mention the book because most " self-help " books help one person, the writer of the book. I can say this because I am 65, and since I was about 13 years old, I have averaged reading two books per week, some fiction, some non-fiction, although now I lean towards non-fiction since good fiction writers have for the most part departed. I have read Chopra, Weil, Ornish, and the list goes on and on. Some good in most of them, but I said some. I would have been better advised to read Harry Potter in most cases. :) Yes, emotional well-being plays a large part in our health. That is a no-brainer, but to make the assertions, and they are only assertions, that everyone who gets cancer is depressed and has a death wish is simply beyond rationality. I wish you the best, and yes, I do mean that. I hope your reading continues, and broadens. Roger - Kathy Miller Friday, August 15, 2003 11:11 PM Re: [s-A] [AltMedForum] Medical Study: Untreated Cancer Patients Live Longer Okay Roger, I'll give you that babies cannot develop cancer of their own accord...but as we get many things from our parents, is it possible that a mother's depression during pregnancy could be the root of a young child's cancer? And as far as well-rounded, young individuals who develop cancer, only they can answer you as to whether they are depressed or not. I know people who have had cancer who there is no way I would have known they had depression - they just absolutely never have shown it to me, and yet when confronting them I get an admission of depression. Many don't admit it is a death wish, but say " they don't care if they live or die " - by my interpretation, that is a death wish - a loss of the will to live. I've talked with a number of people who have had cancer and, interestingly, when I mention that I heard that cancer is a death wish, all whom I have talked with have responded something like, " I can see that. " Also of interest, anyone who has not had cancer will give me a very strong resounding, " No. " As I said, it is my supposition from things that I have seen. I'm not saying I'm absolutely right. You mention nothing about the book I recommended. Will you do me a favor please? Will you read that book and then send me an email and tell me what you think after you finish it? I'd really like to know your opinion. As far as a gunshot versus illness/disease. Very different things. Illnesses and diseases develop when the body gets out of sync. Giving the body alternative options besides the ones it sees on its own when it is clouded by everything put upon it by our environement is part of what the NH and TBM practitioners do. Every human illness and disease is related to some kind of breakdown in communications in the body, fix the communications and allow the body to heal itself, that is what NH and TBM are all about. You can be happy and still be swallowing emotions that are causing illness in your body. My opinion I stated was that deep depression and a death wish are at the center of cancer, not at the center of all illnesses. I believe that all swallowed emotions lie in wait for the opportunity to manifest themselves in symptoms and illness when the environment is ripe and ready for them. Add the emotions swallowed to the environmental stresses and you find disease and illness. Again, please read " Feelings Buried Alive Never Die... " and tell me what you get from that. Until and unless you read that book, you won't be able to tell at all where I am coming from on this issue. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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