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Acupuncture question: I've recently had patient requests that I learn

NAET, and have been checking it out a bit. I haven't heard enough about it

from those not selling it, and am interested in any of your

experiences/ideas on it. It makes heavy use of muscle testing, which was

briefly discussed a few weeks ago. Any information or opinions are

welcome--it looks like it would cost at least $1000 (with ongoing

requirements) to be 'certified' in NAET, plus a trip to LA (*yuck* ;-)

 

Welcome Marjorie! I went to ICTCM in Victoria in 1994 (the last year Henry

Lu was teaching there, I believe), then transferred to OCOM. If you see

Lai Na, Henry, or Hor Ming Lee, say hello for me!

 

Kevin O'Neil, L.Ac.

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technicians, teachers, bureaucrats, housewives, seniors, and freaks of

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Well, I'll swallow the bait.

NAET has nothing to do with Chinese medicine. . . .it uses a hybrid of

techniques from acupuncture, clinical ecology, combo homeopathy and

kinesiology, and the philosophy is from chiropractic and touch for health.

It uses the same basic points on every patient, and doesn't utilize pattern

diagnosis, pulse or tongue examination. It trivializes in-depth,

individualized medicine for a highly suggestible kinesiological testing

which is non-reproducible. If your patients respect you, they shouldn't

tell you what you should be learning. It took you several years to be

certified in Chinese medicine, and you are still studying. Any technique

you learn in a short seminar for instant use in the clinic is a sham. It

irritates me constantly to think that 'quick-fix' medicine, that suppresses

symptomatic response rather than healing patients from within, is making

inroads into Chinese medicine. The buck ruleth all?

 

 

 

 

 

> " Kevin O'Neil, L.Ac. " <Kevin

>

>Acupuncture question: I've recently had patient requests that I learn

>NAET, and have been checking it out a bit. I haven't heard enough about it

>from those not selling it, and am interested in any of your

>experiences/ideas on it. It makes heavy use of muscle testing, which was

>briefly discussed a few weeks ago. Any information or opinions are

>welcome--it looks like it would cost at least $1000 (with ongoing

>requirements) to be 'certified' in NAET, plus a trip to LA (*yuck* ;-)

>

>Welcome Marjorie! I went to ICTCM in Victoria in 1994 (the last year Henry

>Lu was teaching there, I believe), then transferred to OCOM. If you see

>Lai Na, Henry, or Hor Ming Lee, say hello for me!

>

>Kevin O'Neil, L.Ac.

>www.AncientWay.com

> " Treating the ranchers, loggers, rednecks, mechanics, sanitary disposal

>technicians, teachers, bureaucrats, housewives, seniors, and freaks of

>Klamath Falls, Oregon. "

>--Hmm... it won't fit on my business card, but it has a nice ring...

>

>

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Hi

 

>Message: 2

> Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:10:08 EST

> obarbmco

>What Am I Doing Wrong?

>

>Any recommendations for stones for menopause?

have checked my lists, stones for menopause include moonstone, rose quartz,

lapis lazuli & garnet.

 

Having not quite reached that stage yet, I can't comment personnally of the

effectiveness

 

>Message: 8

> Sat, 17 Nov 2001 07:57:49 -0600

> ruthavertrees

>I felt a rock!!!

>

>Hi,

>

>When I got home I decided to experiment with my newest additions. I

>didn't get anything from the mangano calcite, but when I picked up the

>Russian crystal and 'asked' it if it had any message for me, I got a

>definite feeling from it. Suddenly I felt very sad. I don't know if the

>rock was homesick for Russia, or if it missed the other rocks in the box

>it had been in, or maybe it was amplifying something from my

>subconscious. The feeling didn't last very long, then it went back to

>just being a pretty crystal. I felt fine before I tried to pick up

>something from the rock, so I think I really did sense something from it.

>

isn't is just wonderful when you first feel that energy ... it gives you

such a buzz - and with time, as you attune more to your stones you will feel

different types of energy. The first stone I felt energy from was an

amethyst cluster, I still have it - tho my hubby borrowed it for his reiki

station, and as I had only kept it for sentimental reasons , well I didn't

mind loaning it out for a bit :)

 

At that point I knew nothing about crystals - other than they were pretty -

but that piece of amethyst has since led me to learn more, and buy more ,

and now do my Crystal healing.

 

llb

Hazel

 

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>Swanson's has a selection of Q10 (all potencies) that seem to run about

..007-.008 cents per mg.

I don't remember how that compares to previous posts.>

 

That is the average price.

 

Lorenzo

 

 

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Wondering if there was a option to create a mini directory of everyone in

this group and their specialities. I'm a techno nerd so don't know if that

is feasible or not in this chat group.

 

Sandra

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Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:25 PM

Digest Number 133

 

 

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Yes it is possible. In another group I am, there is a option to pick

database at the side menu and you can make tables of

information for various things. I don't own a group, so I don't

know how they do it. I just know its possible. :) And by the way I

am new to this group, invited by Misty. HI!! I will probably be

posting a test case for aspiring Homeopaths... :) I really could

use some help.

 

Lisa

 

 

, " Sandra Kay

Pratt " <bodysoulconnect@e...> wrote:

> Wondering if there was a option to create a mini directory of

everyone in

> this group and their specialities. I'm a techno nerd so don't

know if that

> is feasible or not in this chat group.

>

> Sandra

> -

>

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> Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:25 PM

> Digest Number 133

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Hi Lisa, Sandy, & All...

 

Sandy, the mini-directory sounds like a wonderful idea! And Lisa, a

database sounds like the way to go... By the way, I am glad you

joined us... How is your daughter doing?

 

So everyone, I am open to ideas on how we should do this... Is the

idea to create a general directory that everyone on the group can

join? Do we want a directory of just the practitioners? And maybe

a separate one for the laypeople? Is that distinction going to

offend anyone? I want every member of our group to know they are

highly valued and appreciated....

 

Everyones comments on what exactly we want to create, and how to do

it are very much welcomed!

 

Be Well, Misty

http://www..com

 

, " Lisa Fisher "

<malica98@p...> wrote:

> Yes it is possible. In another group I am, there is a option to

pick

> database at the side menu and you can make tables of

> information for various things. I don't own a group, so I don't

> know how they do it. I just know its possible. :) And by the way

I

> am new to this group, invited by Misty. HI!! I will probably be

> posting a test case for aspiring Homeopaths... :) I really could

> use some help.

>

> Lisa

>

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Re acupuncture points and what they are

I have been noticing that insects usually bite or sting me at acupuncture points. Has anyone else been noticing that?

 

Enrico Viselli, LAc

Manhattan and Westchester, NY offices

212-316-6476 / 914-632-1896

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hi sypho

 

it seems to me that if you could get some of those companies who make lots of money using the initials TCM to fund some of the research that you speak of so that western medicine (WM) can be studied from a TCM herbal viewpoint so that a real blending of the concepts of TCM into WM vocabulary. i think that is the real problem. there is no common language between TCM & WM from the TCM point of view.

it seems that I spend a lot of time talking in the WM vocabulary when I speak to PT's RN's and MD's. Unfortunately I just realized that I only speak in a TCM vocabulary when I speak to my patients or TCM colleagues. how does one introduce TCM in a positive way without alienating or worse totally confusing WM practitioners?

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In a message dated 8/16/2003 11:30:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rizinrico writes:

 

Re acupuncture points and what they are

I have been noticing that insects usually bite or sting me at acupuncture points. Has anyone else been noticing that?

 

I had a teacher that said insects seek the points. The other day, I noticed a big sucker pulling juice from P-6.

I was a little stressed at the time. Even before I saw it there.

 

Chris

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