Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Respected Richard Ji Please re read Mahabharata in more detail (I have a lot of respect for you please don’t take this disrespectfully), Yudhishthir is (Dharmaraj + Kshatriya) all along you will find Worrier Code for Kshatriyas. Added to that he is also Aagyakari he can never disrespect his elders. And all along he knew why they have invited him for but just to respect his Uncle’s request he came even after warnings from Lord Krishna. If he has not gone imagine what might have happen, we will be discussing him in this form as Dharmaraj then how he can disrespect his elder’s request? DHA! Yudhishthir’s entire life + rest of pandavs + Dhrupati was tested all along every step of the way. I want to ask a question to all in this form Lord Sri Ramachandra do you think he is not capable to handle Ravana alone? If he wanted he might have finish the entire Lanka with Ravan with just his one arrow. Why then he has to take the help of others, because all this is done to set an example that by just being a Manusha everything can be done, plane and simple Period. Thanks RAHULSHARMA Jai Shri Ganesh Gajaananam bhoodha ghanaathi sevithamkabhitha jamboo palasara pakshithamumaasutham sokha vinaasakaranamnamaami vigneswara paadha pankajam--- On Fri, 12/11/09, rsbj66 <rsbj66 wrote: rsbj66 <rsbj66 Re: How dumb can you be??sacred-objects Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:53 AM Thanks. Good points. For that matter, Krishna could have NOT created this Maya at all, or not inpegnated Maya with Jivatmas in the first place. So, basically, It's all Gods creation, it's Gods lila, it's God's fault. God made a very faulty material creation, and it was nasty of Him to create Jivatmas and then inject them into Maya. It's like a bad-boy burning ants with a magnifying glass.But, mainly, God should choose smarter friends. Those dumb Pandavas were outsmarted fair and square. DUH!!Y/s,Richardsacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods wrote:>> If we see in details Pandavas too were culprits in Mahabharata, mostly we find kauravas at fault but that is not true imho.> *Karna's birth when Kunti just gave a try for vardana she got,wanted to test it?> *Draupadi's laugh on Duryodhan with a famous line blind's son are also blind.> *Yudhishthir' s half false half true line on Ashvasthama.> *Bhim's last blow on a wrong place of Duryodhan(this I doubt as his action though as Shri Krishna gave a sign to him to do it but karta was Bhim so he is at fault).> *Again it was ordered by Shri Krishna but as per niti shashtra(Hi Richard ji)it was wrong to use Shikhandi as sarathi again Bhishma.> >>There are many fools who blame God for entire Mahabharat but Shri Krishna clearly told Gandhari that "now stop loving your sons"(I forgot exact shloka unfortunately) when Kaurava denied to gave an inch of land to Pandava,here Shri Krishna gave a clear cut singal of future outcome to Gandhari.<<Richard ji we are too small to understand his lila.> *Last but not the least,when you gamble your kingdom and your wife,you in short sure to be a looser.>  > There can be many more examples like above but right now only above striking my mind.> > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> How dumb can you be??> "Sacred Objects Group" <sacred-objects>, "Planetary Group" <planetary-gemology>> Friday, December 11, 2009, 10:10 AM> > >  > > > > > > > > > Were the Pandava brothers stupid to gamble away their wife and wealth? If God advised them, "No gambling!" then an entire massacre could have been avoided! I don't question Krishna lila, but it does sound kind of absurd. Five brothers, friends with God, who appear as morons to gamble away their wife and kingdom. Dah! > > Just a silly perspective. ..> > Richard Shaw Brown, PG> Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author> www.richardshawbrow n.com> > > Get your new Email address! > Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 If we look all maya with "that"angle God is indeed cruel and playing his game with all jivas,a rought example may be like this, adam and Iva gave birth to 2 children.God knew the fate of them before they born,they did karmas as per God's wish,took birth in all animals later on as per their karmas-birth cycle I mean,they also gave birth to many,presume we are among those,as per God's wish you settled in Thailand and I am in India,we are going on a path prescribed by him,no idea what we shall do now or then only "HE"knows,it is just a game planed by him-he is enjoying it,no idea if we are enjoying or not.Some day he too will feel bored by this game but we have no idea what he will do next!If everything he has decided of his own,honestly any paap we do it should not be counted coz we are not culprit for it as this is his game!Honestly something like this I feel many times!regards-Tpm.--- On Fri, 12/11/09, rsbj66 <rsbj66 wrote:rsbj66 <rsbj66 Re: How dumb can you be??sacred-objects Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 11:53 AM  Thanks. Good points. For that matter, Krishna could have NOT created this Maya at all, or not inpegnated Maya with Jivatmas in the first place. So, basically, It's all Gods creation, it's Gods lila, it's God's fault. God made a very faulty material creation, and it was nasty of Him to create Jivatmas and then inject them into Maya. It's like a bad-boy burning ants with a magnifying glass. But, mainly, God should choose smarter friends. Those dumb Pandavas were outsmarted fair and square. DUH!! Y/s, Richard sacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods wrote: > > If we see in details Pandavas too were culprits in Mahabharata, mostly we find kauravas at fault but that is not true imho. > *Karna's birth when Kunti just gave a try for vardana she got,wanted to test it? > *Draupadi's laugh on Duryodhan with a famous line blind's son are also blind. > *Yudhishthir' s half false half true line on Ashvasthama. > *Bhim's last blow on a wrong place of Duryodhan(this I doubt as his action though as Shri Krishna gave a sign to him to do it but karta was Bhim so he is at fault). > *Again it was ordered by Shri Krishna but as per niti shashtra(Hi Richard ji)it was wrong to use Shikhandi as sarathi again Bhishma. > >>There are many fools who blame God for entire Mahabharat but Shri Krishna clearly told Gandhari that "now stop loving your sons"(I forgot exact shloka unfortunately) when Kaurava denied to gave an inch of land to Pandava,here Shri Krishna gave a clear cut singal of future outcome to Gandhari.<<Richard ji we are too small to understand his lila. > *Last but not the least,when you gamble your kingdom and your wife,you in short sure to be a looser. >  > There can be many more examples like above but right now only above striking my mind. > > > --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > How dumb can you be?? > "Sacred Objects Group" <sacred-objects>, "Planetary Group" <planetary-gemology> > Friday, December 11, 2009, 10:10 AM > > >  > > > > > > > > > Were the Pandava brothers stupid to gamble away their wife and wealth? If God advised them, "No gambling!" then an entire massacre could have been avoided! I don't question Krishna lila, but it does sound kind of absurd. Five brothers, friends with God, who appear as morons to gamble away their wife and kingdom. Dah! > > Just a silly perspective. .. > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author > www.richardshawbrow n.com > > > Get your new Email address! > Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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