Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Vyas said--- One who wears a Rudraksha rosary is supreme among all human beings. The mere sight of such a holy man absolves people of their sin. A Rudraksha bead bears features of a Linga and yoni on it's surface. One should not wear a rudraksha on which above mentioned features are absent. Similarly two joint beads should never be worn.Does this mean Gauri-Shankar are forbidden??? New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Dear All, Here are my answers below in CAPS... Ek (one) Mukhi Rudrakhas of Kaju Shape of crescent shape are not genuine? ---THEY ARE GENUINE SOMETHING BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT.I DO NOT DEAL IN THEM. Are only round One Mukhi Rudrakhas are genuine all the sellers who are selling and one how are wearing(like me) are wearing FAKE Kaju Shape One Mukhi?? ---IT SEEMS ONLY EKA MUKHI GOL DANA IS HELD IN HIGH REGARD AND VALUE. FAKE BEADS ARE ALWAYS FAKE. KAJU SHAPE IS NOT FAKE. IT IS REAL SOMETHING. BUT LOTS OF PEOPLE WEAR THEM AND DON'T GET THE BENEDICTION ATTRIBUTED TO " EKA MUKHI " RUDRAKSHA. Are Gauri Shankar Rudrakhas are all FAKE?? SELF MADE Not natural?? And one should not wear?? ---CERTAINLY NOT. THEY ARE GENUINE IN MOST CASES. SURE PEOPLE SHOULD WEAR. I ONLY MENTIONED THE BELOW QUOTE AS A MATTER OF INTEREST. Are Rudrakhas above 14 Mukhi are FAKE?? ---CERTAINLY NOT. As it is not mention in puranas one should not wear them?? ---I DO NOT KNOW. BUT I THINK ANY RUDRAKSHA, ANY NUMBER OF FACES, IS AUSPICIOUS FOR ANYONE. This is a very serious allegation maid and it concerns all. To be honest hurts my feeling as we spend our hard earn money buying them and then come across some thing like this. I request all of our members to PLEASE respond to the above three questions. Respected Richard Ji your valuable feed back will guide us please respond. ---I HAVE NOT MADE ANY ALLEGATIONS. I HAVE SIMPLY QUOTED A VERSE FROM THE PURANAS, ALONG WITH A QUESTION MARK (?). Y/S, RICHARD > > Thanks > > > > RAHULSHARMA > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > Re: www.astrojyoti.com quotes Padma Purana > sacred-objects > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:51 AM dear richardji > > many rudraksha wholesellers requested me to buy and sell gaurishankar > beads which i refused and till date i have not laid my hands on a > gaurishankar saying that it has no scriptural approval in my limited > knoweldge. if other researchers find any scriptural references, i > would appreciate and compliment them for bringing to public > knoweldge, just like you and me complimented ms. swee chan for the > verse on stones few years ago. > > many rudraksha wholesellers have shown me various gaurishankar (two > rudrakshas joined) where we find 14 to 21 mukhis and beyond easily > and they are very cheap but only the real round single rudraksha is > demanded by my customers. > > i have requested all these wholesellers to give reference of any > verse in any scripture that endorses 15 and higher mukhi rudrakshas > so that i buy them and till date they have not furnished except > suggesting some modern books leading to a unheard medieval book which > further leads to yet another unheard ancient scripture. > > as regards this verse from padmapurana english version from > astrojyoti.com i will comment after i read the original sanskrit > version and shall revert soon on the same. > > however, the endorsement of shivling and yoni symbols on the > rudraksha as a must and to discard all rudraksha that dont have these > shivling and yoni symbols is a braking news to me which means all the > rudraksha sold by me and all others incluidng our friend dasaji do > not contain a shivling and yoni invariably on all the rudrakshas. > the father figure of rudraksha family once wrote clearly that all > those ek mukh rudrakhsa that are having symbols of shivling, yoni, > trident, bull etc. are all fake. > > as reagrds disacrding two rudrakshas joined as mentioned in this > padmapurana from astrojyoti.com, i have no comments since i follow > shivapurana where it clearly narrated six types of rudraksha to be > discarded viz. defiled by worms, cut, broken, cracked, not circular > and not having thornlike protrusions. > > it is because of this verse which FORBIDS non circular rudraksha that > i stopped selling crescent shaped ek mukh rudraksha few years ago and > tendered a public apology and offered to recall those very few beads > of kaju shaped ekmukh but, unfortunately, all those few customers who > bought those refused to return saying that when they find millions of > kaju ek mukhi sold by paper ads, tv ads and all rudraksha sellers > including all the largest and most reputed reatilers in india, why > shall they dont believe in it. but i am not dealing in any NON > CIRCULAR rudrakhsa, for it has no approval of shivapurana. for that > matter, i also have no knoweldge of any other purana endorsing other > shaped rudrakshas like kaju and am all ears to hear such references > if any furnished by other researchers. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Vyas said--- One who wears > > a Rudraksha rosary is supreme among all human beings. The mere > sight of > > such a holy man absolves people of their sin. A Rudraksha bead bears > > features of a Linga and yoni on it's surface. One should not wear a > > rudraksha on which above mentioned features are absent. Similarly > two > > joint beads should never be worn. > > > > Does this mean Gauri-Shankar are forbidden??? > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and > @rocketmail. > > Hurry before someone else does! > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 dear friends here are my answers to the three queries. 1. the crescent shaped ek mukh rudraksha belongs to a rudaksha variant botanically which was confirmed by mr. phadke, a scientis in the previous posts some time ago. shivapurana clearly says that those rudraksha which are NOT CIRUCLAR SHALL BE DISCARDED. 2. gaurishankar rudraksha are two rudrakshas joined naturally together. but i have not seen any mention of it in the scriptures. if other researches have found any reference, i would be happy learn from them and compliment and appreciate them for their research. 3. higher mukhi rudrakshas like 15 and above are genuine and i am am not dealing them only for want of the following information which i am getting only from 1 to 14 in shivapurana and other puranas: a. lord of the rudraksha b. benefit of the rudraksha c. mantra for the rudraksha in view of the above, you can safely assume that higher mukhi rudrakshas are natural and genuine and can be worn if thier benefits, lordships and mantras are known. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Here are my answers below in CAPS... > > Ek (one) Mukhi Rudrakhas of Kaju Shape of crescent shape are not genuine? > ---THEY ARE GENUINE SOMETHING BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT.I DO NOT DEAL IN THEM. > > Are only round One Mukhi Rudrakhas are genuine all the sellers who are > selling and one how are wearing(like me) are wearing FAKE Kaju Shape > One Mukhi?? > ---IT SEEMS ONLY EKA MUKHI GOL DANA IS HELD IN HIGH REGARD AND VALUE. > FAKE BEADS ARE ALWAYS FAKE. KAJU SHAPE IS NOT FAKE. IT IS REAL > SOMETHING. BUT LOTS OF PEOPLE WEAR THEM AND DON'T GET THE BENEDICTION > ATTRIBUTED TO " EKA MUKHI " RUDRAKSHA. > > Are Gauri Shankar Rudrakhas are all FAKE?? SELF MADE Not natural?? And > one should not wear?? > ---CERTAINLY NOT. THEY ARE GENUINE IN MOST CASES. SURE PEOPLE SHOULD > WEAR. I ONLY MENTIONED THE BELOW QUOTE AS A MATTER OF INTEREST. > > Are Rudrakhas above 14 Mukhi are FAKE?? > ---CERTAINLY NOT. > > As it is not mention in puranas one should not wear them?? > ---I DO NOT KNOW. BUT I THINK ANY RUDRAKSHA, ANY NUMBER OF FACES, IS > AUSPICIOUS FOR ANYONE. > > This is a very serious allegation maid and it concerns all. To > be honest hurts my feeling as we spend our hard earn money buying them > and then come across some thing like this. I request all of our > members to PLEASE respond to the above three questions. Respected > Richard Ji your valuable feed back will guide us please respond. > > ---I HAVE NOT MADE ANY ALLEGATIONS. I HAVE SIMPLY QUOTED A VERSE FROM > THE PURANAS, ALONG WITH A QUESTION MARK (?). > > Y/S, > RICHARD > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > RAHULSHARMA > > > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> > > Re: www.astrojyoti.com quotes Padma Purana > > sacred-objects > > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:51 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear richardji > > > > many rudraksha wholesellers requested me to buy and sell gaurishankar > > beads which i refused and till date i have not laid my hands on a > > gaurishankar saying that it has no scriptural approval in my limited > > knoweldge. if other researchers find any scriptural references, i > > would appreciate and compliment them for bringing to public > > knoweldge, just like you and me complimented ms. swee chan for the > > verse on stones few years ago. > > > > many rudraksha wholesellers have shown me various gaurishankar (two > > rudrakshas joined) where we find 14 to 21 mukhis and beyond easily > > and they are very cheap but only the real round single rudraksha is > > demanded by my customers. > > > > i have requested all these wholesellers to give reference of any > > verse in any scripture that endorses 15 and higher mukhi rudrakshas > > so that i buy them and till date they have not furnished except > > suggesting some modern books leading to a unheard medieval book which > > further leads to yet another unheard ancient scripture. > > > > as regards this verse from padmapurana english version from > > astrojyoti.com i will comment after i read the original sanskrit > > version and shall revert soon on the same. > > > > however, the endorsement of shivling and yoni symbols on the > > rudraksha as a must and to discard all rudraksha that dont have these > > shivling and yoni symbols is a braking news to me which means all the > > rudraksha sold by me and all others incluidng our friend dasaji do > > not contain a shivling and yoni invariably on all the rudrakshas. > > the father figure of rudraksha family once wrote clearly that all > > those ek mukh rudrakhsa that are having symbols of shivling, yoni, > > trident, bull etc. are all fake. > > > > as reagrds disacrding two rudrakshas joined as mentioned in this > > padmapurana from astrojyoti.com, i have no comments since i follow > > shivapurana where it clearly narrated six types of rudraksha to be > > discarded viz. defiled by worms, cut, broken, cracked, not circular > > and not having thornlike protrusions. > > > > it is because of this verse which FORBIDS non circular rudraksha that > > i stopped selling crescent shaped ek mukh rudraksha few years ago and > > tendered a public apology and offered to recall those very few beads > > of kaju shaped ekmukh but, unfortunately, all those few customers who > > bought those refused to return saying that when they find millions of > > kaju ek mukhi sold by paper ads, tv ads and all rudraksha sellers > > including all the largest and most reputed reatilers in india, why > > shall they dont believe in it. but i am not dealing in any NON > > CIRCULAR rudrakhsa, for it has no approval of shivapurana. for that > > matter, i also have no knoweldge of any other purana endorsing other > > shaped rudrakshas like kaju and am all ears to hear such references > > if any furnished by other researchers. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown > > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Vyas said--- One who wears > > > a Rudraksha rosary is supreme among all human beings. The mere > > sight of > > > such a holy man absolves people of their sin. A Rudraksha bead bears > > > features of a Linga and yoni on it's surface. One should not wear a > > > rudraksha on which above mentioned features are absent. Similarly > > two > > > joint beads should never be worn. > > > > > > Does this mean Gauri-Shankar are forbidden??? > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and > > @rocketmail. > > > Hurry before someone else does! > > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Dear Richardji & all learned members of this holy forum. Namaskar !! Wish all of u a Happy & Prosporeous new year-2009. The questions asked by Mr.Sharma are genuine & its really hurt my sentiment ( though a silent member,but reading all the posting sincererly) to know that apart from 1 to 14 mukhi ( of course all round ) other beads are fake & not have any effect.It is a question of the existence of all the holy & natural beads given for mankind by lord Shiva..In my limited experience i have got benifit from the Gaurishankar bead & other beads apart from the so called 1 to 14 mukhi gol dana.We are buying rudrakasha beads from our hard earned money & kept strong belive & faith to get benifited from it.I am little bit confused to read the discussions.Pl have a healthy comment. Om Namah Shivaya With Regards Manoj Kar --- On Mon, 5/1/09, Rahul Sharma <toneyrahulsharma wrote: Rahul Sharma <toneyrahulsharmaRe: Re: www.astrojyoti.com quotes Padma Puranasacred-objects Cc: panditarjun2004, shaligram8, rsbj66, alstrup, tpmodsDate: Monday, 5 January, 2009, 2:59 PM Hello All Group Members Please do give your feed back as this concern everyone sellers as well as buyers like me Ek (one) Mukhi Rudrakhas of Kaju Shape of crescent shape are not genuine? Are only round One Mukhi Rudrakhas are genuine all the sellers who are selling and one how are wearing(like me) are wearing FAKE Kaju Shape One Mukhi?? Are Gauri Shankar Rudrakhas are all FAKE?? SELF MADE Not natural?? And one should not wear?? Are Rudrakhas above 14 Mukhi are FAKE?? As it is not mention in puranas one should not wear them?? This is a very serious allegation maid and it concerns all. To be honest hurts my feeling as we spend our hard earn money buying them and then come across some thing like this. I request all of our members to PLEASE respond to the above three questions. Respected Richard Ji your valuable feed back will guide us please respond. Thanks RAHULSHARMA--- On Sun, 1/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > Re: www.astrojyoti. com quotes Padma Puranasacred-objectsSunday, January 4, 2009, 8:51 AM dear richardjimany rudraksha wholesellers requested me to buy and sell gaurishankar beads which i refused and till date i have not laid my hands on a gaurishankar saying that it has no scriptural approval in my limited knoweldge. if other researchers find any scriptural references, i would appreciate and compliment them for bringing to public knoweldge, just like you and me complimented ms. swee chan for the verse on stones few years ago.many rudraksha wholesellers have shown me various gaurishankar (two rudrakshas joined) where we find 14 to 21 mukhis and beyond easily and they are very cheap but only the real round single rudraksha is demanded by my customers. i have requested all these wholesellers to give reference of any verse in any scripture that endorses 15 and higher mukhi rudrakshas so that i buy them and till date they have not furnished except suggesting some modern books leading to a unheard medieval book which further leads to yet another unheard ancient scripture.as regards this verse from padmapurana english version from astrojyoti.com i will comment after i read the original sanskrit version and shall revert soon on the same.however, the endorsement of shivling and yoni symbols on the rudraksha as a must and to discard all rudraksha that dont have these shivling and yoni symbols is a braking news to me which means all the rudraksha sold by me and all others incluidng our friend dasaji do not contain a shivling and yoni invariably on all the rudrakshas. the father figure of rudraksha family once wrote clearly that all those ek mukh rudrakhsa that are having symbols of shivling, yoni, trident, bull etc. are all fake.as reagrds disacrding two rudrakshas joined as mentioned in this padmapurana from astrojyoti.com, i have no comments since i follow shivapurana where it clearly narrated six types of rudraksha to be discarded viz. defiled by worms, cut, broken, cracked, not circular and not having thornlike protrusions.it is because of this verse which FORBIDS non circular rudraksha that i stopped selling crescent shaped ek mukh rudraksha few years ago and tendered a public apology and offered to recall those very few beads of kaju shaped ekmukh but, unfortunately, all those few customers who bought those refused to return saying that when they find millions of kaju ek mukhi sold by paper ads, tv ads and all rudraksha sellers including all the largest and most reputed reatilers in india, why shall they dont believe in it. but i am not dealing in any NON CIRCULAR rudrakhsa, for it has no approval of shivapurana. for that matter, i also have no knoweldge of any other purana endorsing other shaped rudrakshas like kaju and am all ears to hear such references if any furnished by other researchers.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy .comsacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:>> Vyas said--- One who wears> a Rudraksha rosary is supreme among all human beings. The mere sight of> such a holy man absolves people of their sin. A Rudraksha bead bears> features of a Linga and yoni on it's surface. One should not wear a> rudraksha on which above mentioned features are absent. Similarly two> joint beads should never be worn.> > Does this mean Gauri-Shankar are forbidden???> > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does!> http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Really, I believe that ANY Rudrakshas (unless broken?) will be auspicious to anyone who wears one. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , MANOJ KAR <manoj_kar7 wrote: > > Dear Richardji & all learned members of this holy forum. > Namaskar !! >  > Wish all of u a Happy & Prosporeous new year-2009. >  > The questions asked by Mr.Sharma are genuine & its really hurt my sentiment ( though a silent member,but reading all the posting sincererly) to know that apart from 1 to 14 mukhi ( of course all round ) other beads are fake & not have any effect.It is a question of the existence of all the holy & natural beads given for mankind by lord Shiva.In my limited experience i have got benifit from the Gaurishankar bead & other beads apart from the so called 1 to 14 mukhi gol dana.We are buying rudrakasha beads from our hard earned money & kept strong belive & faith to get benifited from it.I am little bit confused to read the discussions.Pl have a healthy comment. >  > Om Namah Shivaya >  > With Regards > Manoj Kar  > > --- On Mon, 5/1/09, Rahul Sharma <toneyrahulsharma wrote: > > Rahul Sharma <toneyrahulsharma > Re: Re: www.astrojyoti.com quotes Padma Purana > sacred-objects > Cc: panditarjun2004, shaligram8, rsbj66, alstrup, tpmods > Monday, 5 January, 2009, 2:59 PM > > > > > Hello All Group Members >  >    Please do give your feed back as this concern everyone sellers as well as buyers like me >  > > Ek (one) Mukhi Rudrakhas of Kaju Shape of crescent shape are not genuine? Are only round One Mukhi Rudrakhas are genuine all the sellers who are selling and one how are wearing(like me) are wearing FAKE Kaju Shape One Mukhi?? > Are Gauri Shankar Rudrakhas are all FAKE?? SELF MADE Not natural?? And one should not wear?? > Are Rudrakhas above 14 Mukhi are FAKE?? As it is not mention in puranas one should not wear them?? >  >      This is a very serious allegation maid and it concerns all. To be honest hurts my feeling as we spend our hard earn money buying them and then come across some thing like this. I request all of our members to PLEASE respond to the above three questions. Respected Richard Ji your valuable feed back will guide us please respond. >  > Thanks > > > > RAHULSHARMA > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > > Re: www.astrojyoti. com quotes Padma Purana > sacred-objects > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:51 AM > > > > > dear richardji > > many rudraksha wholesellers requested me to buy and sell gaurishankar > beads which i refused and till date i have not laid my hands on a > gaurishankar saying that it has no scriptural approval in my limited > knoweldge. if other researchers find any scriptural references, i > would appreciate and compliment them for bringing to public > knoweldge, just like you and me complimented ms. swee chan for the > verse on stones few years ago. > > many rudraksha wholesellers have shown me various gaurishankar (two > rudrakshas joined) where we find 14 to 21 mukhis and beyond easily > and they are very cheap but only the real round single rudraksha is > demanded by my customers. > > i have requested all these wholesellers to give reference of any > verse in any scripture that endorses 15 and higher mukhi rudrakshas > so that i buy them and till date they have not furnished except > suggesting some modern books leading to a unheard medieval book which > further leads to yet another unheard ancient scripture. > > as regards this verse from padmapurana english version from > astrojyoti.com i will comment after i read the original sanskrit > version and shall revert soon on the same. > > however, the endorsement of shivling and yoni symbols on the > rudraksha as a must and to discard all rudraksha that dont have these > shivling and yoni symbols is a braking news to me which means all the > rudraksha sold by me and all others incluidng our friend dasaji do > not contain a shivling and yoni invariably on all the rudrakshas. > the father figure of rudraksha family once wrote clearly that all > those ek mukh rudrakhsa that are having symbols of shivling, yoni, > trident, bull etc. are all fake. > > as reagrds disacrding two rudrakshas joined as mentioned in this > padmapurana from astrojyoti.com, i have no comments since i follow > shivapurana where it clearly narrated six types of rudraksha to be > discarded viz. defiled by worms, cut, broken, cracked, not circular > and not having thornlike protrusions. > > it is because of this verse which FORBIDS non circular rudraksha that > i stopped selling crescent shaped ek mukh rudraksha few years ago and > tendered a public apology and offered to recall those very few beads > of kaju shaped ekmukh but, unfortunately, all those few customers who > bought those refused to return saying that when they find millions of > kaju ek mukhi sold by paper ads, tv ads and all rudraksha sellers > including all the largest and most reputed reatilers in india, why > shall they dont believe in it. but i am not dealing in any NON > CIRCULAR rudrakhsa, for it has no approval of shivapurana. for that > matter, i also have no knoweldge of any other purana endorsing other > shaped rudrakshas like kaju and am all ears to hear such references > if any furnished by other researchers. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown > <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Vyas said--- One who wears > > a Rudraksha rosary is supreme among all human beings. The mere > sight of > > such a holy man absolves people of their sin. A Rudraksha bead bears > > features of a Linga and yoni on it's surface. One should not wear a > > rudraksha on which above mentioned features are absent. Similarly > two > > joint beads should never be worn. > > > > Does this mean Gauri-Shankar are forbidden??? > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and > @rocketmail. > > Hurry before someone else does! > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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