counting of seeds

December 25, 2008

Hare Krishna Prabhu, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.

Mr. Arjun, counting of seeds is a check against tempered lines or artificial lines, Rudraksha suppliers make to increase the value of bead. On my website I am putting several underdeveloped one Mukhi Rudrakshas which have one clear Mukh on the outside surface but in their X Ray some have three seeds, some have 4 seeds and some have 5 seeds. In my view or anyone's view these Rudrakshas can not be called as real 1 Mukhi gol Ek dana Rudraksha Prabhu.

If you have read Puranas, you must be aware that maximum texts , properites and several things have been described pertaining to Eka Mukhi Rudraksha as compared to the rest of Rudrakshas. It is very much mention there that Eka Mukhi is a 'Durlabh' Rudraksha. But as per your theory anybody can get these Rudrakshas ( which has one clear line, and 5 seeds inside) for mere Rs. 2000/- or even less than that and every year they also happen in thousands so where is a 'Durlabh' thing in these one Mukhi ?

So let us not try to take the meaning of the lines of Puranas to our benefit. We are all ardent devotees of Lord Shiva so lets be genuine in our approach. One Mukhi will not come to all devotees, it will come to the one who is extremely lucky and who have Kripa of Bholenath. I think Eka Mukhi might be coming once in 50 years or 100 years.

You had mentioned that you dont want to take X Ray picture, so that does nt becomes a gospel truth, because you have said that. Every devotee has a right to ascertain whether he is buying the genuine Rudraksha or not and as agenuine Rudraksha Supplier we should help him in doing that. Speaking that I have genuine one does not make the person genuine. All consumers are well aware of this Prabhu.

You asked whether I would give X ray picture with the bead any devotee purchases from me, so dear friend the answer is YES. I have X Ray machine installed in my premises and also we are having an ISO 2000 Lab called as RRTL( Rudraksha research and testing Labrotary) at Mumbai, where each and every bead is scanned and all beads are X Rayed and each and every bead goes with a test certificate. There are 6 scientists are working there for 10 hras a day. What is the harm in doing that.

I would recommend all devotees to please insisit on the test report of every Rudraksha they purchased. This is their birth right. Just because one individual is assuming that he has supreme knowledge and he can mould the Holy texts to his comfort, does not really can hide the truth.

You stated that you are taking the Rudrakshas from reputed suppliers of the world, I have no doubt about this also. Then why you are charging so exorbitantly for a bead which is around Rs. 2000/- . I am sorry to state but few of customers of various suppliers have met me with this so called Eka Mukhi and on X Ray there were four seeds and five seeds were found inside, which made them very sad Prabhu. After that they have never visited them again. So why to loose customers.

Pl see on my website also, I would be showing after few days these underdeveloped beads with X Ray pictures and you will your self know the truth.

I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day,Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram,Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu,Shri Swayamvyakta-Shaligram-Silas Arpanam Astu, Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 932264642100 91 93226464200091 22 24459616salagram8shaligram8Address105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate,Narayan Pathare Marg,Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 Maharashtra (India )--- On Wed, 24/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudrakshasacred-objects Date: Wednesday, 24 December, 2008, 8:37 PM

dear friendthanks for your query. kindly be informed that i never do xray of rudraksha and my rudraksha are procured from the best known supplier from nepal who supplies rudraksha to most retailers in the world.one reason for this is that when we read, say and prescribe to devotees, citing puranas, that a rudraksha is an embodiment of lord shiva and each rudraksha is having a lordship of so and so lord etc., subjecting it to an xray and counting seeds inside is disrespecting it by treating it as a commodity in a factory under quality test before being rolled out for selling. counting the perfectly naturally formed lines on the outer surface is what is mentioned in the puranas.dear friend, since you are counting the seeds within, could you kindly give me reference of any purana or scripture which says that each rudraksha contains as many seeds within as its number of lines

outside. do you find 14 seeds within a 14mukhi rudraksha. will you be able to count 14 seeds in an xray and convince your customer to see and count 14 seeds before buying the 14 seeded rudrkasha. answers to these quereis are a must because instead of selling LINED rudraksha you are trying to sell SEEDED rudraksha like one seed rudraksha, two seed rudraksha, three seed rudraksha, four seed rudraksha, five seed rudraksha, six seed rudraksha so on till 21 or higher seeded rudrakshas. as per your definition, your 21 mukhi rudraksha must be having 21 seeds in it and your customers are counting those 21 seeds in the xray sheet before buying it.i tell my customers that this counting seeds becomes meaningless, since many times, when we make the rudraksha as a pendant in gold silver or even simple thread, when a seed obstructs from within, it is removed so that the passage is clear enough for the thread

or silver or gold wire to be stringed easily.so, in my humble opinion which i preach and practice, rudraksha are not bought by customers based on counting the seeds within the seed as shown by an xray, for such SEEDED RUDRAKSHA OR SEED COUNTING RUDRAKSHA have no scriptural sanction.with best wishes and blessingspandit arjunwww.rudraksharemedy .comsacred-objects, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote:>> > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.> Have you done X Ray of your one Mukhi and was there one seed inside Prabhu.> Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu,> Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas

Arpanam Astu, > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> 00 91 9322646421> 00 91 9322646420> 0091 22 24459616> salagram8@.. .> shaligram8@. ..> Address> 105, Hammersmith Industrial Estate,> Narayan Pathare Marg,> Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > Maharashtra (India )> > --- On Mon, 22/12/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote:> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...>> Re: Siddhartha Bliss Rudraksha> sacred-objects> Monday, 22 December, 2008, 9:34 AM> > > > > > > dear friends> > members in this group are now demonstrating a more matured

behaviour > in acknolwedging the availability and sale of ek mukh gol rudraksha > from nepal. this is a great sea change from the hostile choist > criticism hurled at me when i presented the magnified photograph of > the gold ek mukh rudraksha bead i had a couple of years ago. > > by the way, these days new beads of round ek mukh, similar to the one > sold by me earlier, are available at a very less price price of just > one lakh rupees and would soon post a photograph of the same. > interested persons may write to my email id to get the same.> > all my rudraksha come with a hundred percent buyback guarantee, if > the customer is not happy for whatsoever reason and the customer > would get full refund even after wearing at any point of time in > future.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun>

www.rudraksharemedy .com> > sacred-objects, Abhishek Dutta > <benarsibabu@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Siddhartha,> > > > Your point is well taken & your sentiments regarding the bead > appreciated. The very mention of Nepalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana evokes > reverence as it is considered by many as the holiest of esoteric > objects. So any objective & constructive debate should be welcome....> > > > For one, the bead is not well formed, infact its a Nepalese > Two/Three Mukhi bead which is malformed. The irregular contouring & > outlining clearly illustrates a marked departure from the smoothness > for which the Nepalese beads are so well known. Well that said the > markings on the bead are genuine & i am sure that the concerned bead > has not gone under the

scalpel.> > > > So, there is no doubt that the bead has a Nepalese Genus & the > markings are also genuine, it has a nautral one line & the fact that > there is one seed is very well illustrated by the X-Ray. But whether > nature really intended this bead to be a Eka Mukhi Rudraksha, well I > have my doubts......> > > > That said can you please throw some light on your statement " Let > us enjoy the eternal bliss the bead is giving us." Were you > teleported to Mount Kailash when you touched the bead......? > > > > Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis@ > wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > Pl believe me, there are no chiesel marks anywhere in the bead. I > have seen the bead very very careflly while holding the bead > physically on my right hand. I personally feel no person will make > the moon in the

bead clear by so called chieseling, this does not > make any sense to spoil such a wonderful bead just to make the moon > clear. > > > > Prababely the picture is very highly magnified and we all are > able to see the minutest part of the bead, so we are thinking that > way. See the other pose where the Nag is shown, can you see any > chieseling marks there or on the moon which is seen partly in that > picture. No definitely not, I cant see anything like that..> > > > Pl see that part of bead where Eka Mukh is present and tell me > sincerely do you find any chieseling marks there????> > > > I think we should be thankful to Rajiv Prabhu for giving the > Darshanas of such a rare bead to all Rudraksha Devotee, let us not > hurt him by "unsure" remarks. > > I asked him, if he would like to sell this, to which he answered

> very sweetly, " Can any Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh devotee part with > the Sakshat Shiva, which has come to him after so many years of tapas > for some papers( currency), Definitely not"> > > > So there is no point in raising doubts. Let us enjoy the eternal > bliss the bead is giving us all.> > > > Yours Sincerely,> > Siddharth Mishra> > > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...> wrote:> > > > Janardana Dasa <lightdweller@ ...>> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 9:53 AM> > > > Dear All,> > > > From an impartial standpoint (as I always try to be), I too can > see chisel marks as well. This is common in any

fine craftsmanship > under magnification. Personally, I would go as far to say, I would > never, ever buy anything but common 5 mukhi Rudraksha from anyone via > the net or mail, as it is too hard to know the quality of the goods > and the integrity of the person. If I ever wanted such a bead, I > would go to Nepal myself to get it. To be perfectly honest with you, > i personally feel (and this is my own opinion which I am entitled to) > that for most, it wouldn't really matter whether they got a high > grade bead or a 5 mukhi. It's the inner state that counts.> > > > Janardana Dasa of Conyers, Georgia USA> > > > --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8> wrote:> > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8>> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi

Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Saturday, December 20, 2008, 5:50 AM> > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu, > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all > glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of > the Lord.> > Dear Narsamayee or Simone, first accepting that you have a little > knowledge of Rudrakshas and then giving expert comments does'nt match > well friend. > > I knew jeolousy will start left and right against me seeing this > bautiful bead with me. > > I have that much courage to show different poses in 600 pixels > pictures. In your capacity pl make the picture of any Rudraksha bead > in 600 pixels you will yourself find much worse marks than this > beautiful Eka Mukhi Rudraksha. Narsimayee this bead is not for

> selling it is only for darshan, I hope you understand. But I am not > really sad with your comments Narsimyee but feel sorry.> > I hope this will help,> > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Dev Namaha> > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > devotees. Shubh Dinam Astu / Have a Nice Day,> > Shri Krishna-Balaram Arpanam Astu - in the service of Their > Lordships, Shri Shri Krishna & Balaram,> > Shri Shri Radhika Raman Arpanam Astu,> > Shri Swayamvyakta- Shaligram- Silas Arpanam Astu, > > Thanks and Regards, > > Haribol, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> > 00 91 9322646421> > 00 91 9322646420> > 0091 22 24459616> > salagram8 > > shaligram8 > > Address> > 105, Hammersmith Industrial

Estate,> > Narayan Pathare Marg,> > Off Shitla Devi Temple Road, Mahim, Mumbai 400037 > > Maharashtra (India )> > > > --- On Fri, 19/12/08, Simone <shombaz > wrote:> > > > Simone <shombaz >> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Friday, 19 December, 2008, 11:40 PM> > > > ha ( scratching the head ) it sure looks like a > deformed bead. from my little knowledge of rudrakshas, there is no > such thing as a mountain and moon blah blah but only rudrakshas.> > > > i don't want to sound like a wet blanket for all you nut lovers, > but everyone is gifted with eyes and brains! after using the nuts, > don't act like gullible nut-cracks, get your nuts bolted tight.> >

> > if you have learned woodwork in school then you can see the > markings of it being chiselled on photo 2 and 3. hey this is just my > opinion. even with x-ray a deformed bead will show some seed inside.> > > > scrathing my head, simone> > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, tp mods <tpmods > wrote:> > > > tp mods <tpmods >> > Re: Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:13 AM> > > > If possible get x-ray done,scan it and post it here > and prove your claim,without seeing x-ray it is of no use by seeing > physical lookout.> > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Siddharth Mishra <sidhmis > wrote:> > Siddharth Mishra

<sidhmis >> > Napalese Eka Mukhi Gol Dana Rudraksha> > sacred-objects> > Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:18 AM> > > > Wow ! I cannot believe such a beautiful one Mukhi > Gol Nepalese bead I would be seeing in my life ever. Truely > unbelievable !!!!> > Pl view the following link on www..shaligram. com> > > > http://www.shaligra m.com/rudraksha/ 1mukhi.php> > > > There is one more very rare Rudraksha also. Watch that also !!!> > > > Really Adarniye Prabhu Rajiv Krishna Dasa is truely blessed with > the choicest blessings of Lord Shiva. > > > > Har Har Mahadev> > Siddharth Mishra> > > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, benarsibabu <benarsibabu@

.co. in> wrote:> > > > benarsibabu <benarsibabu@ .co. in>> > Vedic Quote> > sacred-objects> > Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 11:44 PM> > > > To seek God too soon is not less sinful> > than to seek God too late;> > we must love, man, woman, or child,> > we must exhaust ambition, intellect, desire,> > dedicating all things as they pass,> > or we come to God with empty hands.....> > > > Avadhuta> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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