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hi manoj,

 

go to www.siddhashram.org

is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is your

solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and talk

to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

 

 

Jai gurudev

 

 

 

 

, " manoj " <kalahandimanoj

wrote:

>

> Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

paycheck

> and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> benefited)by paying $150 and

> swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

my

> family

> in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> in every aspect of life since then.

> As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

the

> puja (which will be of less cost).

> unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

face

> hurdles.

> He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

can't

> cure it.

>

> Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

reliable

> person

> in india who can do such puja?

>

> Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

>

>

> I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

sakti

> temple

> in atlanta.

> Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> should regurarly do

> the puja to the yantra.

> if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

>

> thanks,

> manoj.

>

> , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

wrote:

> >

> > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

per

> hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> >

> >

> >

> > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> chamundaswamiji.

> > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> >

> > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> >

> > thanks,

> > manoj.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > with the Search weather shortcut.

> >

> >

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Yes -- as a general rule the more a guru charges for his advice and

guidance the better he is.

 

And the amount you are willing to pay for your solution is directly

proportional to your spiritual nature. The more you pay, the

spiritually advanced you become. A simple equation, no?

 

That's why the richest people on earth are the most enlightened.

 

What a wonderful world!

 

 

, " RICK " <rdrugist wrote:

>

> hi manoj,

>

> go to www.siddhashram.org

> is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is your

> solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and talk

> to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

>

>

> Jai gurudev

>

>

>

>

> , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> paycheck

> > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> my

> > family

> > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > in every aspect of life since then.

> > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> the

> > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> face

> > hurdles.

> > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> can't

> > cure it.

> >

> > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> reliable

> > person

> > in india who can do such puja?

> >

> > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> >

> >

> > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> sakti

> > temple

> > in atlanta.

> > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > should regurarly do

> > the puja to the yantra.

> > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> >

> > thanks,

> > manoj.

> >

> > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> per

> > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> > chamundaswamiji.

> > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > >

> > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > >

> > >

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I have heard that it is the best place for " shakti pat " . They take

moola first. Then you will be putin a dark room and eyes will be

closed with cloth. Then the guru comes and gives a resounding kick on

the solar plexus. you " see " " stars " .

Then they say " saw stars na? " thats shaktipat.

I have seen some persons who are in this group who were on the verge

of nervous breakdown by practicing what they say.

Those who want to loose money, this is easy way. Go ahead.

 

, " Devi Bhakta "

<devi_bhakta wrote:

>

> Yes -- as a general rule the more a guru charges for his advice and

> guidance the better he is.

>

> And the amount you are willing to pay for your solution is directly

> proportional to your spiritual nature. The more you pay, the

> spiritually advanced you become. A simple equation, no?

>

> That's why the richest people on earth are the most enlightened.

>

> What a wonderful world!

>

>

> , " RICK " <rdrugist@> wrote:

> >

> > hi manoj,

> >

> > go to www.siddhashram.org

> > is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is

your

> > solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and

talk

> > to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

> >

> >

> > Jai gurudev

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck

to

> > paycheck

> > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me

and

> > my

> > > family

> > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of

hurdle

> > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more

than

> > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to

do

> > the

> > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life

and

> > face

> > > hurdles.

> > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or

hanuman

> > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > can't

> > > cure it.

> > >

> > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > reliable

> > > person

> > > in india who can do such puja?

> > >

> > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > sakti

> > > temple

> > > in atlanta.

> > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and

one

> > > should regurarly do

> > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100

dollars

> > per

> > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard

anout

> > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > >

> > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > >

> > > >

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A close friend just now was very critical of my earlier post

saying " he is in trouble and you are ridiculing " . I am sorry I

conveyed the wrong impression.

I was talking only with respect to siddhashram. I was not addressing

Manoj's problem. I will try to address it off board.

Once again I apologize to manoj

 

, " manoj " <kalahandimanoj

wrote:

 

Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

paycheck

and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life. I took an

appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be benefited)by

paying $150 and swamiji said some body has done a black majic

(stambhan) to me and my family in the year 1994 and that is the

reason I am facing lots of hurdle in every aspect of life since

then. As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more

than $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford). Swamiji said I can

approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do the puja (which will

be of less cost). unless I do the puja I will not make much progress

in my life and face hurdles.

He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

chalisa will also not be of much of help. These prayer can stop the

malicious effect for a time being but can't cure it.

 

Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

reliable person in india who can do such puja?

 

Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

 

 

I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

sakti temple in atlanta. Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without

pran pratistha and one should regurarly do the puja to the yantra. if

you can't do the puja then don't keep it. Does any one here has a sri

yantra without pran pratistha?

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@ wrote:

 

yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars per

hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

 

manoj <kalahandimanoj@ wrote: have any body heard anout

chamundaswamiji.

he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

 

http://chamundaswamiji.com

 

thanks,

manoj.

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You have my sympathy and I shall include you and your family in my

daily prayers. Keep the money for your family instead. Today when

you go out of your house, and the first begger you see on the

street, give the smallest domination you have in your hand.

 

 

 

 

In , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@

> wrote: Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on

paycheck to paycheck and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts

of my life. I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if

will be benefited)by paying $150 and swamiji said some body has done

a black majic(stambhan) to me and my family in the year 1994 and

that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle in every aspect of

life since then. As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which

will cost more than $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

the puja (which will be of less cost). unless I do the puja I will

not make much progress in my life and face hurdles. He said by

reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman chalisa will

also not be of much of help. These prayer can stop the malicious

effect for a time being but can't cure it.

 

Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

reliable person in india who can do such puja?

 

Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

 

I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

sakti temple in atlanta. Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without

pran pratistha and one should regurarly do the puja to the yantra.

if you can't do the puja then don't keep it. Does any one here has a

sri yantra without pran pratistha?

>

> thanks,

> manoj.

>

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pl do every Monday Rudra abishek for shiva for 40 weeks.

no body in this 2007 can do a perfect black magic. as no one is practising that

kind of nishatthvam and who does it can loose that power during rest of life.

Hence if some stops bad by jap -- belive it and once on everey shiva rathri

which comes in a month do a ekadasa rudra which may cost neraly 1000 in a temple

of shiva , take this thirtha and donot take non veg. see a astrologer , do

graha dosa for affected persons.

when keeping yantra, all . you must have initiated and do properly abishaek

daily, nithya pooja . it is not buying a car keeping in garrage.

pl follow this ...

SHIVA is ultimate for all answer..

However I am a Sri Viday upasaka. one suffers beacuse of Karma . ..

atj

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Well , I hope You will not get into more financial problems after all these

costly affairs! as mentioned earlier God can charge a lot of money since oil

price is on the rise ( please use common sense ! )

joanna

> >

> > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> > paycheck

> > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> > my

> > > family

> > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> > the

> > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> > face

> > > hurdles.

> > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > can't

> > > cure it.

> > >

> > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > reliable

> > > person

> > > in india who can do such puja?

> > >

> > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > sakti

> > > temple

> > > in atlanta.

> > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > > should regurarly do

> > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> > per

> > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > >

> > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > >

> > > >

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yesssssss in my back I am really really worried :( If the US$ falls my pension

will fall and I will get adjustment only if inflation in the Big Apple is +2%

per annum :(. As of now if I retire I can have an average comfy living in india.

 

joannapollner <joannapollner wrote: Well , I hope You will

not get into more financial problems after all these costly affairs! as

mentioned earlier God can charge a lot of money since oil price is on the rise (

please use common sense ! )

joanna

> >

> > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> > paycheck

> > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> > my

> > > family

> > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> > the

> > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> > face

> > > hurdles.

> > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > can't

> > > cure it.

> > >

> > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > reliable

> > > person

> > > in india who can do such puja?

> > >

> > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > sakti

> > > temple

> > > in atlanta.

> > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > > should regurarly do

> > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> > per

> > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > >

> > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > >

> > > >

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Thank you very much.

I will do that.

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, " NMadasamy " <nmadasamy wrote:

>

> You have my sympathy and I shall include you and your family in my

> daily prayers. Keep the money for your family instead. Today when

> you go out of your house, and the first begger you see on the

> street, give the smallest domination you have in your hand.

>

>

>

>

> In , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@

> > wrote: Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on

> paycheck to paycheck and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts

> of my life. I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if

> will be benefited)by paying $150 and swamiji said some body has done

> a black majic(stambhan) to me and my family in the year 1994 and

> that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle in every aspect of

> life since then. As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which

> will cost more than $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> the puja (which will be of less cost). unless I do the puja I will

> not make much progress in my life and face hurdles. He said by

> reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman chalisa will

> also not be of much of help. These prayer can stop the malicious

> effect for a time being but can't cure it.

>

> Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> reliable person in india who can do such puja?

>

> Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

>

> I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> sakti temple in atlanta. Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without

> pran pratistha and one should regurarly do the puja to the yantra.

> if you can't do the puja then don't keep it. Does any one here has a

> sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> >

> > thanks,

> > manoj.

> >

>

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I don't have any expertise in any kind abishek.

From this I learned abt khadgamala that I try to read every morning

along with some other slokas.

I had done a rudra abishek when I had gone to India(2001) in a siva

temple by a priest which cost me less than 100 dollar.

 

Usually I do similar kind of puja in temples when I visit India.

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, Arakampakkam Thiaagrajan

jagadeesan <atjags wrote:

>

> pl do every Monday Rudra abishek for shiva for 40 weeks.

> no body in this 2007 can do a perfect black magic. as no one is

practising that kind of nishatthvam and who does it can loose that

power during rest of life.

> Hence if some stops bad by jap -- belive it and once on everey shiva

rathri which comes in a month do a ekadasa rudra which may cost neraly

1000 in a temple of shiva , take this thirtha and donot take non veg.

see a astrologer , do graha dosa for affected persons.

> when keeping yantra, all . you must have initiated and do properly

abishaek daily, nithya pooja . it is not buying a car keeping in garrage.

> pl follow this ...

> SHIVA is ultimate for all answer..

> However I am a Sri Viday upasaka. one suffers beacuse of Karma . ..

> atj

>

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definitely I will go bankrupt after spending that much amount.

when swamiji told 5200 then I asked is it in rupees?

he said no it is 5200 in dollar .

He has some asistant who will do the puja and after that I have to

give some more money to him also.

He also said even if some one in india does a puja when you are here

it will not have any effect.

He said he will not reveal the person's name(who has cast the spell)

or why he has done so.

Yesterday I was kind of scared for abt one hour but Now I don't care

abt it.

 

puja's has no effect if a person is on the other side of sea.

I heard his msg in zee TV and liked his speech I thought to give a try.

I did not feel any black majic in 1994 and I don't feel it either now.

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, " joannapollner "

<joannapollner wrote:

>

> Well , I hope You will not get into more financial problems after

all these costly affairs! as mentioned earlier God can charge a lot of

money since oil price is on the rise ( please use common sense ! )

> joanna

> > >

> > > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> > > paycheck

> > > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> > > my

> > > > family

> > > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more

than

> > > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> > > the

> > > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> > > face

> > > > hurdles.

> > > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > > can't

> > > > cure it.

> > > >

> > > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > > reliable

> > > > person

> > > > in india who can do such puja?

> > > >

> > > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > > sakti

> > > > temple

> > > > in atlanta.

> > > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > > > should regurarly do

> > > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> > > per

> > > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard

anout

> > > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks,

> > > > > manoj.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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No need to apologize.

I wanted some advice.

Always I feel that the other person has some more knowledge that I can

learn.

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, " kochu1tz " <kochu1tz wrote:

>

> A close friend just now was very critical of my earlier post

> saying " he is in trouble and you are ridiculing " . I am sorry I

> conveyed the wrong impression.

> I was talking only with respect to siddhashram. I was not addressing

> Manoj's problem. I will try to address it off board.

> Once again I apologize to manoj

>

> , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@

> wrote:

>

> Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> paycheck

> and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life. I took an

> appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be benefited)by

> paying $150 and swamiji said some body has done a black majic

> (stambhan) to me and my family in the year 1994 and that is the

> reason I am facing lots of hurdle in every aspect of life since

> then. As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more

> than $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford). Swamiji said I can

> approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do the puja (which will

> be of less cost). unless I do the puja I will not make much progress

> in my life and face hurdles.

> He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> chalisa will also not be of much of help. These prayer can stop the

> malicious effect for a time being but can't cure it.

>

> Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> reliable person in india who can do such puja?

>

> Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

>

>

> I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> sakti temple in atlanta. Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without

> pran pratistha and one should regurarly do the puja to the yantra. if

> you can't do the puja then don't keep it. Does any one here has a sri

> yantra without pran pratistha?

>

> thanks,

> manoj.

>

> , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@ wrote:

>

> yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars per

> hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

>

> manoj <kalahandimanoj@ wrote: have any body heard anout

> chamundaswamiji.

> he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

>

> http://chamundaswamiji.com

>

> thanks,

> manoj.

>

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If some spiritual guru says than as a normal person I believe it.

How do you know if some guru says something which is relevant or not.

 

but you guys opened my eyes.

I will be bit careful in the future.

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, " kochu1tz " <kochu1tz wrote:

>

> I have heard that it is the best place for " shakti pat " . They take

> moola first. Then you will be putin a dark room and eyes will be

> closed with cloth. Then the guru comes and gives a resounding kick on

> the solar plexus. you " see " " stars " .

> Then they say " saw stars na? " thats shaktipat.

> I have seen some persons who are in this group who were on the verge

> of nervous breakdown by practicing what they say.

> Those who want to loose money, this is easy way. Go ahead.

>

> , " Devi Bhakta "

> <devi_bhakta@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes -- as a general rule the more a guru charges for his advice and

> > guidance the better he is.

> >

> > And the amount you are willing to pay for your solution is directly

> > proportional to your spiritual nature. The more you pay, the

> > spiritually advanced you become. A simple equation, no?

> >

> > That's why the richest people on earth are the most enlightened.

> >

> > What a wonderful world!

> >

> >

> > , " RICK " <rdrugist@> wrote:

> > >

> > > hi manoj,

> > >

> > > go to www.siddhashram.org

> > > is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is

> your

> > > solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and

> talk

> > > to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

> > >

> > >

> > > Jai gurudev

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck

> to

> > > paycheck

> > > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me

> and

> > > my

> > > > family

> > > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of

> hurdle

> > > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more

> than

> > > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to

> do

> > > the

> > > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life

> and

> > > face

> > > > hurdles.

> > > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or

> hanuman

> > > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > > can't

> > > > cure it.

> > > >

> > > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > > reliable

> > > > person

> > > > in india who can do such puja?

> > > >

> > > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > > sakti

> > > > temple

> > > > in atlanta.

> > > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and

> one

> > > > should regurarly do

> > > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100

> dollars

> > > per

> > > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard

> anout

> > > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks,

> > > > > manoj.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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you are absolutely right.

One more question:-

How do you know that one is spiritually making progress by reading

khadgamala stotra or doing puja?

 

is there a way to measure spiritualism and fruits of any kind of puja

one does?

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, " Devi Bhakta " <devi_bhakta

wrote:

>

> Yes -- as a general rule the more a guru charges for his advice and

> guidance the better he is.

>

> And the amount you are willing to pay for your solution is directly

> proportional to your spiritual nature. The more you pay, the

> spiritually advanced you become. A simple equation, no?

>

> That's why the richest people on earth are the most enlightened.

>

> What a wonderful world!

>

>

> , " RICK " <rdrugist@> wrote:

> >

> > hi manoj,

> >

> > go to www.siddhashram.org

> > is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is your

> > solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and talk

> > to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

> >

> >

> > Jai gurudev

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> > paycheck

> > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> > my

> > > family

> > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> > the

> > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> > face

> > > hurdles.

> > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > can't

> > > cure it.

> > >

> > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > reliable

> > > person

> > > in india who can do such puja?

> > >

> > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > sakti

> > > temple

> > > in atlanta.

> > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > > should regurarly do

> > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> > per

> > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > >

> > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > >

> > > >

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Have you tried them.

and do they also charge for the service?

 

thanks,

manoj

 

, " RICK " <rdrugist wrote:

>

> hi manoj,

>

> go to www.siddhashram.org

> is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is your

> solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and talk

> to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

>

>

> Jai gurudev

>

>

>

>

> , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> paycheck

> > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> my

> > family

> > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > in every aspect of life since then.

> > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> the

> > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> face

> > hurdles.

> > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> can't

> > cure it.

> >

> > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> reliable

> > person

> > in india who can do such puja?

> >

> > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> >

> >

> > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> sakti

> > temple

> > in atlanta.

> > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > should regurarly do

> > the puja to the yantra.

> > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> >

> > thanks,

> > manoj.

> >

> > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> per

> > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> > chamundaswamiji.

> > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > >

> > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > >

> > >

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Chamunda swamiji asked me 5000 dollars to do a similar pooja. I couldnt afford

it. I fled. I am telling only of my experience and perception.

 

manoj <kalahandimanoj wrote:

you are absolutely right.

One more question:-

How do you know that one is spiritually making progress by reading

khadgamala stotra or doing puja?

 

is there a way to measure spiritualism and fruits of any kind of puja

one does?

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, " Devi Bhakta " <devi_bhakta

wrote:

>

> Yes -- as a general rule the more a guru charges for his advice and

> guidance the better he is.

>

> And the amount you are willing to pay for your solution is directly

> proportional to your spiritual nature. The more you pay, the

> spiritually advanced you become. A simple equation, no?

>

> That's why the richest people on earth are the most enlightened.

>

> What a wonderful world!

>

>

> , " RICK " <rdrugist@> wrote:

> >

> > hi manoj,

> >

> > go to www.siddhashram.org

> > is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is your

> > solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and talk

> > to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

> >

> >

> > Jai gurudev

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> > paycheck

> > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> > my

> > > family

> > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> > the

> > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> > face

> > > hurdles.

> > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > can't

> > > cure it.

> > >

> > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > reliable

> > > person

> > > in india who can do such puja?

> > >

> > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > sakti

> > > temple

> > > in atlanta.

> > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > > should regurarly do

> > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> > per

> > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > >

> > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > >

> > > >

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There are gurus and there are gurus.

 

What is central is that guru's intent. A mantra, however powerful, if

given with benevolent intent will basically be incapable of getting

you (or anyone else) into trouble.

 

When, however, the purported guru's intent is his/her own personal

gain, the mantra can be a loose cannon that can harm both the user

and the object of use.

 

And the guru too, of course, but that is cold comfort to those who

are undone by an indiscrete guru's greed.

 

DB

 

 

 

, " manoj " <kalahandimanoj

wrote:

>

> If some spiritual guru says than as a normal person I believe it.

> How do you know if some guru says something which is relevant or

not.

>

> but you guys opened my eyes.

> I will be bit careful in the future.

>

> thanks,

> manoj.

>

> , " kochu1tz " <kochu1tz@> wrote:

> >

> > I have heard that it is the best place for " shakti pat " . They

take

> > moola first. Then you will be putin a dark room and eyes will be

> > closed with cloth. Then the guru comes and gives a resounding

kick on

> > the solar plexus. you " see " " stars " .

> > Then they say " saw stars na? " thats shaktipat.

> > I have seen some persons who are in this group who were on the

verge

> > of nervous breakdown by practicing what they say.

> > Those who want to loose money, this is easy way. Go ahead.

> >

> > , " Devi Bhakta "

> > <devi_bhakta@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes -- as a general rule the more a guru charges for his advice

and

> > > guidance the better he is.

> > >

> > > And the amount you are willing to pay for your solution is

directly

> > > proportional to your spiritual nature. The more you pay, the

> > > spiritually advanced you become. A simple equation, no?

> > >

> > > That's why the richest people on earth are the most enlightened.

> > >

> > > What a wonderful world!

> > >

> > >

> > > , " RICK " <rdrugist@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > hi manoj,

> > > >

> > > > go to www.siddhashram.org

> > > > is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev

is

> > your

> > > > solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham

and

> > talk

> > > > to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Jai gurudev

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " manoj "

<kalahandimanoj@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on

paycheck

> > to

> > > > paycheck

> > > > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will

be

> > > > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to

me

> > and

> > > > my

> > > > > family

> > > > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of

> > hurdle

> > > > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost

more

> > than

> > > > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in

india to

> > do

> > > > the

> > > > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my

life

> > and

> > > > face

> > > > > hurdles.

> > > > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or

> > hanuman

> > > > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being

but

> > > > can't

> > > > > cure it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of

such

> > > > reliable

> > > > > person

> > > > > in india who can do such puja?

> > > > >

> > > > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from

the a

> > > > sakti

> > > > > temple

> > > > > in atlanta.

> > > > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha

and

> > one

> > > > > should regurarly do

> > > > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks,

> > > > > manoj.

> > > > >

> > > > > , RAKESH PATEL

<rdrugist@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100

> > dollars

> > > > per

> > > > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body

heard

> > anout

> > > > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > manoj.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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can i charge a thou? i will tell everyone its blackmagic and remedy a thou. 20%

will have some natural reprive; 20% no change; 20% some reprive; 20% worsens.

The 20% that had natural reprive will tom tom it and bring me more moolah.

BIG APPLEEEEEEEEEE here I comeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

h p <random_cerebral wrote:

Chamunda swamiji asked me 5000 dollars to do a similar pooja. I

couldnt afford it. I fled. I am telling only of my experience and perception.

 

manoj <kalahandimanoj wrote:

you are absolutely right.

One more question:-

How do you know that one is spiritually making progress by reading

khadgamala stotra or doing puja?

 

is there a way to measure spiritualism and fruits of any kind of puja

one does?

 

thanks,

manoj.

 

, " Devi Bhakta " <devi_bhakta

wrote:

>

> Yes -- as a general rule the more a guru charges for his advice and

> guidance the better he is.

>

> And the amount you are willing to pay for your solution is directly

> proportional to your spiritual nature. The more you pay, the

> spiritually advanced you become. A simple equation, no?

>

> That's why the richest people on earth are the most enlightened.

>

> What a wonderful world!

>

>

> , " RICK " <rdrugist@> wrote:

> >

> > hi manoj,

> >

> > go to www.siddhashram.org

> > is wonderful place to be for much more information. Gurudev is your

> > solution. Just go thru info and then call jodhpur gurudham and talk

> > to sharmaji he will guide u furhter.

> >

> >

> > Jai gurudev

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " manoj " <kalahandimanoj@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Now and Then I face financial hardship and I live on paycheck to

> > paycheck

> > > and I face hurdle in workplace and other parts of my life.

> > > I took an appointment with chamunda swmiji (to see if will be

> > > benefited)by paying $150 and

> > > swamiji said some body has done a black majic(stambhan) to me and

> > my

> > > family

> > > in the year 1994 and that is the reason I am facing lots of hurdle

> > > in every aspect of life since then.

> > > As a remedy he needs to do a tantric puja which will cost more than

> > > $5000.00 for me(which hardly I can afford).

> > > Swamiji said I can approach somebody (tantric guru) in india to do

> > the

> > > puja (which will be of less cost).

> > > unless I do the puja I will not make much progress in my life and

> > face

> > > hurdles.

> > > He said by reading khagdamala stotra/lalita shashranaam or hanuman

> > > chalisa will also not be of much of help.

> > > These prayer can stop the malicious effect for a time being but

> > can't

> > > cure it.

> > >

> > > Does any one has any suggestion or does any body know of such

> > reliable

> > > person

> > > in india who can do such puja?

> > >

> > > Swamiji is also asked me to be a vegetarian.

> > >

> > >

> > > I have kept sri yantra in my altar which I purchased from the a

> > sakti

> > > temple

> > > in atlanta.

> > > Swamiji said don't keep sri yantra without pran pratistha and one

> > > should regurarly do

> > > the puja to the yantra.

> > > if you can't do the puja then don't keep it.

> > > Does any one here has a sri yantra without pran pratistha?

> > >

> > > thanks,

> > > manoj.

> > >

> > > , RAKESH PATEL <rdrugist@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > yes. he is spiritual healer In new york and charge 100 dollars

> > per

> > > hour. he also coming on zee tv on usa every sunday at 8am

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > manoj <kalahandimanoj@> wrote: have any body heard anout

> > > chamundaswamiji.

> > > > he is now in newyork and giving spiritual heeling.

> > > >

> > > > http://chamundaswamiji.com

> > > >

> > > > thanks,

> > > > manoj.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

> > > > with the Search weather shortcut.

> > > >

> > > >

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If anyone charges $$ for appointment.....and comes up with a scary

notion that the visitor is afflicted with some black magic....

 

I have some swamp land in florida for sale as well.

 

Keep chanting LSN or Hanuman chalisa or which ever you chant

regularly. If there is an issue at all, the solution will arrive. In

those cases, the expense will be very affordable and the experience

will be one of enjoyment. It will not rob the shirt off your back.

 

Obey your instinct for your instinct is Devi. Take advise only from

the most trusted sources in this regard - you will know which are

those trusted sources if you listen to your heart.

 

Another rule of thumb to remember always. If a male is married and

living with his wife, none of the black magic stuff will work as wife

is HER. As simple as that.....don't worry, be happy.

 

G

 

PS: Do not consciously look for spiritual maturity as an after effect

of chanting KS/LSN/HC. Spritual maturity happens only when self is

lost in HER - adwaitha.

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, h p <random_cerebral

wrote:

>

> Chamunda swamiji asked me 5000 dollars to do a similar pooja. I

couldnt afford it. I fled. I am telling only of my experience and

perception.

>

> manoj <kalahandimanoj wrote:

> you are absolutely right.

> One more question:-

> How do you know that one is spiritually making progress by reading

> khadgamala stotra or doing puja?

>

> is there a way to measure spiritualism and fruits of any kind of

puja

> one does?

>

> thanks,

> manoj.

 

 

When somebody comes to me with a problem, it is our believe [ my

husband and me] that we should not add in more problem for them,

instead should find a way of helping them to lessen the burden.

 

Its like the loan shark. People who are really in need coming to

them for help and they charge them atrocious interest rate.

Eventually it becomes a burden and a trap. We have a lot of such

issues here in KL. Somebody too point out, then these people should

not have gone to the loan shark in the first place. They should know

what they are into. But when somebody is so desperate, what

alternatives there are for them, unless some responsible people

step forward and help them out. There are always other

alternatives/solutions to every problem.

 

And again, I like to look at the other point of view: Who create

this problems in the first place? Many a times when I sat down and

talk to those who came to us for help, as I see it, they are the

one who create their own problem. They have unrealistic needs and

have so many attachment to materialistic needs. Why can't we just

try to lead a simple life and be realistic about it all. If you cant

afford something, then forgo the need. But many a time we can't. If

we see it, we must have it. This whole attitude of " must have " is

the root of the problem then they go to the temple or seek divine

help, and when they do not get it, they say the DIVINE is ignoring

us. Not helping us. I dont know this is my opinion.

 

I know of a man who have no basic education and yet he can send his

sons to the university, manage to pay off his HDB loan within few

years and now he owned the house, and even have a considerable sum

of savings for his retirement, and he is just a road sweaper.

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