Guest guest Report post Posted March 18, 2010 Sat Nam! I'm very curious about the concept of Aquarian Age. What exactly will be the impact of the AA? How did the concept evolve? Thanks for explaining... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2010 A big topic: Yogiji spoke on this a few times, but I don't have his quotes at hand, except to say it is a time where self-awareness and service of others are at a premium. He often said that in the Piscean Age the creed was " I believe, therefore I know, " while in the Aquarian Age we say " I know, therefore I believe. " To use R Buckminster Fuller's term, this is the end of " second-hand God. " People will increasingly have a first hand experience of the infinite in their lives. How did Yogiji come onto this theme? It could be something like this: When he was teaching in Los Angeles early on, a student of his owned a small record label with some performers called The Fifth Dimension who had a huge hit single consisting of a medley " Aquarius/Let the sunshine in " from the musical Hair. That song was hugely popular and very upbeat and Yogiji picked it up in his teachings. Soon he was to designate Guru Nanak " Guru for the Aquarian Age. " I hope this helps. Depending on how " really curious " you are, you might be interested in my book on this subject, Five Paragons of Peace: Magic and Magnificence in the Guru's Way. I'm hoping to have it available as an ebook soon. Guru Fatha Singh www.gurufathasingh.com Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero wrote: > > Sat Nam! > > I'm very curious about the concept of Aquarian Age. What exactly will be the impact of the AA? How did the concept evolve? > > Thanks for explaining... > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Thanks for explaining, Guru Fatha. For me the concept of Aquarian Age sounds a bit woolly, I've to admit, but I'm looking forward to your ebook about that matter which hopefully goes into more depths than anything I've heard so far. I hear teachers mentioning the Aquarian Age sometimes but it feels as if they only quote Yogi Bhajan but don't really know a whole lot about it themselves. I could be wrong. And I don't reject the idea. I'm neutral but open and willing to learn. Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh wrote: > > A big topic: > > Yogiji spoke on this a few times, but I don't have his quotes at hand, except to say it is a time where self-awareness and service of others are at a premium. He often said that in the Piscean Age the creed was " I believe, therefore I know, " while in the Aquarian Age we say " I know, therefore I believe. " To use R Buckminster Fuller's term, this is the end of " second-hand God. " People will increasingly have a first hand experience of the infinite in their lives. > > How did Yogiji come onto this theme? It could be something like this: When he was teaching in Los Angeles early on, a student of his owned a small record label with some performers called The Fifth Dimension who had a huge hit single consisting of a medley " Aquarius/Let the sunshine in " from the musical Hair. That song was hugely popular and very upbeat and Yogiji picked it up in his teachings. Soon he was to designate Guru Nanak " Guru for the Aquarian Age. " > > I hope this helps. Depending on how " really curious " you are, you might be interested in my book on this subject, Five Paragons of Peace: Magic and Magnificence in the Guru's Way. I'm hoping to have it available as an ebook soon. > > Guru Fatha Singh > www.gurufathasingh.com > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero@> wrote: > > > > Sat Nam! > > > > I'm very curious about the concept of Aquarian Age. What exactly will be the impact of the AA? How did the concept evolve? > > > > Thanks for explaining... > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 24, 2010 Agreed. " Aquarian Age " can sound very woolly indeed. That's why I did the research and the book - partly to clarify (for myself, first of all) the role of Yogi Bhajan and Guru Nanak in this transition; partly to objectively quantify the transition itself. In brief, it would appear we are (and have for some time been, as a humanity) moving toward an era of increasing science, personal empowerment, transparency in governance, networking, and realization of (and corresponding awe and respect toward) holism in every sphere of life. Arnold Toynbee, the historian once described the 20th century as the first time in recorded history that people started to think and actively plan for the good of the whole planet. Now that's history! Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero wrote: > > Thanks for explaining, Guru Fatha. For me the concept of Aquarian Age sounds a bit woolly, I've to admit, but I'm looking forward to your ebook about that matter which hopefully goes into more depths than anything I've heard so far. > I hear teachers mentioning the Aquarian Age sometimes but it feels as if they only quote Yogi Bhajan but don't really know a whole lot about it themselves. I could be wrong. And I don't reject the idea. I'm neutral but open and willing to learn. > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh@> wrote: > > > > A big topic: > > > > Yogiji spoke on this a few times, but I don't have his quotes at hand, except to say it is a time where self-awareness and service of others are at a premium. He often said that in the Piscean Age the creed was " I believe, therefore I know, " while in the Aquarian Age we say " I know, therefore I believe. " To use R Buckminster Fuller's term, this is the end of " second-hand God. " People will increasingly have a first hand experience of the infinite in their lives. > > > > How did Yogiji come onto this theme? It could be something like this: When he was teaching in Los Angeles early on, a student of his owned a small record label with some performers called The Fifth Dimension who had a huge hit single consisting of a medley " Aquarius/Let the sunshine in " from the musical Hair. That song was hugely popular and very upbeat and Yogiji picked it up in his teachings. Soon he was to designate Guru Nanak " Guru for the Aquarian Age. " > > > > I hope this helps. Depending on how " really curious " you are, you might be interested in my book on this subject, Five Paragons of Peace: Magic and Magnificence in the Guru's Way. I'm hoping to have it available as an ebook soon. > > > > Guru Fatha Singh > > www.gurufathasingh.com > > > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero@> wrote: > > > > > > Sat Nam! > > > > > > I'm very curious about the concept of Aquarian Age. What exactly will be the impact of the AA? How did the concept evolve? > > > > > > Thanks for explaining... > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2010 It is my understanding that the Aquarian age is actual astrological shift happening in the sky that affects us as energy bodies here on earth... It is also my understanding the Yogi Bhajan was a master of Astrology but was forbidden by the US government to teach it. He knew a lot more about it than just hearing a song by the Fifth Dimension and running with it... ( love that song though!) Just as we have a zodiac that shifts throughout the year , there are also much larger cycles and that is what the " Aquarian age " shift is referring too. There is a lot of information out there on this subject. I am no good at explaining it but its worth looking into. I am reading a book now that explains these macro astrological shifts throughout history in a very interesting context- I am betting a lot of you on this list would enjoy- Its by a Barbara Hand Clow and its called Catastrophobia - highly recommended Sat Nam Jamila ps here is a link to that book- http://www.amazon.com/Catastrophobia-Truth-Behind-Changes-Coming/dp/1879181622 Owner/ Designer 11:11 enterprises http://www.eleveneleven.net/ http://blog.eleveneleven.net/ Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh wrote: > > Agreed. " Aquarian Age " can sound very woolly indeed. That's why I did the research and the book - partly to clarify (for myself, first of all) the role of Yogi Bhajan and Guru Nanak in this transition; partly to objectively quantify the transition itself. In brief, it would appear we are (and have for some time been, as a humanity) moving toward an era of increasing science, personal empowerment, transparency in governance, networking, and realization of (and corresponding awe and respect toward) holism in every sphere of life. Arnold Toynbee, the historian once described the 20th century as the first time in recorded history that people started to think and actively plan for the good of the whole planet. Now that's history! > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for explaining, Guru Fatha. For me the concept of Aquarian Age sounds a bit woolly, I've to admit, but I'm looking forward to your ebook about that matter which hopefully goes into more depths than anything I've heard so far. > > I hear teachers mentioning the Aquarian Age sometimes but it feels as if they only quote Yogi Bhajan but don't really know a whole lot about it themselves. I could be wrong. And I don't reject the idea. I'm neutral but open and willing to learn. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Due to the spacing in the file name, you would need to present the link like this: http://www.gongsongs.com/audio/Kirtan%20Kriya%20Cues.mp3 Or rename the file with " - " 's or " _ " 's. ;)fs Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh wrote: > > Agreed. " Aquarian Age " can sound very woolly indeed. That's why I did the research and the book - partly to clarify (for myself, first of all) the role of Yogi Bhajan and Guru Nanak in this transition; partly to objectively quantify the transition itself. In brief, it would appear we are (and have for some time been, as a humanity) moving toward an era of increasing science, personal empowerment, transparency in governance, networking, and realization of (and corresponding awe and respect toward) holism in every sphere of life. Arnold Toynbee, the historian once described the 20th century as the first time in recorded history that people started to think and actively plan for the good of the whole planet. Now that's history! > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for explaining, Guru Fatha. For me the concept of Aquarian Age sounds a bit woolly, I've to admit, but I'm looking forward to your ebook about that matter which hopefully goes into more depths than anything I've heard so far. > > I hear teachers mentioning the Aquarian Age sometimes but it feels as if they only quote Yogi Bhajan but don't really know a whole lot about it themselves. I could be wrong. And I don't reject the idea. I'm neutral but open and willing to learn. > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh@> wrote: > > > > > > A big topic: > > > > > > Yogiji spoke on this a few times, but I don't have his quotes at hand, except to say it is a time where self-awareness and service of others are at a premium. He often said that in the Piscean Age the creed was " I believe, therefore I know, " while in the Aquarian Age we say " I know, therefore I believe. " To use R Buckminster Fuller's term, this is the end of " second-hand God. " People will increasingly have a first hand experience of the infinite in their lives. > > > > > > How did Yogiji come onto this theme? It could be something like this: When he was teaching in Los Angeles early on, a student of his owned a small record label with some performers called The Fifth Dimension who had a huge hit single consisting of a medley " Aquarius/Let the sunshine in " from the musical Hair. That song was hugely popular and very upbeat and Yogiji picked it up in his teachings. Soon he was to designate Guru Nanak " Guru for the Aquarian Age. " > > > > > > I hope this helps. Depending on how " really curious " you are, you might be interested in my book on this subject, Five Paragons of Peace: Magic and Magnificence in the Guru's Way. I'm hoping to have it available as an ebook soon. > > > > > > Guru Fatha Singh > > > www.gurufathasingh.com > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sat Nam! > > > > > > > > I'm very curious about the concept of Aquarian Age. What exactly will be the impact of the AA? How did the concept evolve? > > > > > > > > Thanks for explaining... > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Hi, Barbara Hand Clow's website is : http://www.handclow2012.com/ and I have some info on this subject on my wiki: http://www.kundaliniyogainfocntr.com/page/2011+OTHER+SITES++PEOPLE including: The Q'ero & Prophecies Page 1 & 2 The Mayan Calendar Swedish biologist, Carl Johan Calleman Serpent of Light: Beyond 2012 by Drunvalo Melchizedek suggested reading by Charles D. Frohman from the Sacred geometry, numerology and 2012 William B Stoecker Sat Nam, Sat Avtar Kaur http://www.kundalini-yoga-info.com/ http://www.kundaliniyogainfocntr.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2010 This is an article from Barbara Hand Clow, I thought it was on her website, but maybe not http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/universo/esp_cinturon_fotones_3b.htm Sat Avtar Kaur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2010 Sat Nam, Jamila - I think you're exactly right. A few months ago I wrote a short entry on (posed an online " riddle " actually) regarding the one science the US govt. wouldn't allow Yogi Bhajan to teach. And that science was Astrology - he spoke of this one time in a class I attended in Los Angeles, where I lived from 1970 - 1982. Given how much Guru Fatha Singh knows and has compiled about many, many nuances and details of the early years of 3HO, I thought it was rather odd that he would cite a Broadway pop opera song (which I've also loved very much) as a credible source for our teacher's understanding of the Aquarian age. It just seemed bizarre to me, but I hadn't gotten around to pulling Guru Fatha Singh's beard on this one. I'm glad you broke the ice. These doctrines are actually classic, ancient teachings of " Esoteric Astrology " that was largely promulgated by Theosophical thinkers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries (Madame Blavatsky, Ouspensky, Gurdjieff, evem the Irish poet William Butler Yeats, and others). Another stream for these sources was Alice Bailey, who is probably better known in the 20th century than the Theosophical group. She was related to them somehow, but apparently there were tensions between them regarding her work. Finally, an important source of esoteric spiritual and astrological knowledge was Manly P. Hall, who founded the Philosophical Research Society, that was located on Holloywood Blvd. when I lived in Los Angeles in the 1970's. This is important because I clearly remember a framed poster of the 12 signs of the zodiac that was at Guru Ram Das Ashram at Melrose and Robertson before we acquired the present GRDA on Preuss Road in 1972. This poster was (as I recall) published by the Philosophical Research Society, and clearly delineated a " slogan " characteristic of each astrological sign. Some examples are: Leo - " I will, " Pisces - " I Believe, " and Aquarius - " I know. " Moreover, to establish the spiritual validity of these notions a little further, the most famous Christian aphorism of St. Augustine (in the fifth century) was " I believe that I might understand. " This stream of Christianity virtually characterized and dominated the Christian Piscean with all its theologies, politics and empires. The dominating beliefs in the Piscean age were probably Christianity and Capitalism (derived from the Protestant Ethic during the Renaissance, according to Max Weber). The Siri Sahib once defined the Soviet dogmas of Communism as " State Monopoly Capitalism. " Fascism is " Corporate Monopoly Capitalism. " Currently we are under the spell of Global Empire Monetary Capitalism. But, each one of these " isms " is based on a Piscean, egocentric belief system that has never been derived from authentic knowledge or wisdom. Hence, they have required so much violence and coercion for imposing themselves on " others. " Hopefully, these forms of coercive capitalism are passing away as the Aquarian Age dawns, including the most recent variation, where certain capitalists have co-opted the Non-Profit Resources held dear by several organizations we are close to and love dearly (you know what I'm saying?). The Aquarian Model is not egocentric or greedy, it will be selfless (in a grounded sense) and generous. Its characteristic activity will be Seva, not armed robbery (nor " verbal rubbery, " in order to hide its tracks). I love Barbara Hand Clow's work, and I have a copy of Catastraphobia. I have found a real difficulty in her attempts to trace the primary causes of human phobias in some massive geological event that she asserts happened around 10 thousand years ago. No one that I know who is relatively well versed in geological and evolutionary history can find any way to identify with this notion. My mind was open when I started reading that specific book of hers, but the laugh tracks I received from geologically informed critical thinkers put me in a state of incredulity. If it's Aquarian, I'd like Barbara to provide the knowledge. I'm much more impressed with Barbara Hand Clow's work on evolutionary biologist Karl Johan Calleman (which is about Calleman's correlations between primary evolutionary events in relation to key points in one of the Mayan calendar systems). This particular Mayan system is 16.4 billion years, in 9 Underworld Cycles, that describes the emergence of the material universe in a process of evolving a living, successful and enlightened species of humanity. All 9 Underworlds (according to Mayan calibrations to the Pleaides) will be ending on the same date, NEXT YEAR: October 28, 2011. This may seem bizarre or overly specific for some to go along with. But there is a very interesting correlation with Yogi Bhajan's own Aquarian teachings. In the Mayan numerology teachings, the two most important numbers are 13 and 20. The entire 9 underworld system is defined by a 360 day ceremonial year, TIMES 13 TIMES 20. Each additional cycle is defined by adding one more " power of " 20. Three numbers, by themselves alone, defining the entire epic of Life Evolving Into Enlightenment. AND, the interesting thing is, that when you add 13 DAYS to the last day of the Mayan Calendar cycle of 16.4 billion years, YOU WILL GET NOVEMBER 11, 2011. Which is the exact day Yogi Bhajan said would be the actuall beginning of the Aquarian Age. Go figure! I thought you might be interested in some depth and complexity that could NEVER have been derived from a song about " When the Moon is in the Seventh House, and Jupiter aligns with Mars. . . . " Johnny Rivers performed a great service for Yogi Bhajan and 3HO, but I don't think his recording label had a lot to do with Yogi Bhajan's teachings on the Aquarian Age. " No way, Jose " (or Guru Fatha Singh)!!! for many Blessings, Krishna Singh Kundalini-Yoga , " Jamila T " <faucetlover wrote: > > It is my understanding that the Aquarian age is actual astrological shift happening in the sky that affects us as energy bodies here on earth... It is also my understanding the Yogi Bhajan was a master of Astrology but was forbidden by the US government to teach it. He knew a lot more about it than just hearing a song by the Fifth Dimension and running with it... ( love that song though!) > Just as we have a zodiac that shifts throughout the year , there are also much larger cycles and that is what the " Aquarian age " shift is referring too. There is a lot of information out there on this subject. I am no good at explaining it but its worth looking into. I am reading a book now that explains these macro astrological shifts throughout history in a very interesting context- I am betting a lot of you on this list would enjoy- Its by a Barbara Hand Clow and its called Catastrophobia - highly recommended > Sat Nam > Jamila > ps here is a link to that book- > http://www.amazon.com/Catastrophobia-Truth-Behind-Changes-Coming/dp/1879181622 > > Owner/ Designer > 11:11 enterprises > http://www.eleveneleven.net/ > http://blog.eleveneleven.net/ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Thank you Krishna Singh for your more in depth look at this very timely topic! I very much appreciate your seemingly encyclopedic knowledge on this subject ( and so many others!) and you taking the time to share it. Sat Nam!!! Jamila Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 26, 2010 Dear Jamila - Sat Nam. Thanks for your enthusiastic endorsement of The Fifth Dimension's great song. But your understanding that Yogi Bhajan was forbidden by the US government to teach astrology sounds a bit woolly to me. Which section of the government? Under what statute and law? Where did you get that idea? Guru Fatha Singh Kundalini-Yoga , " Jamila T " <faucetlover wrote: > > It is my understanding that the Aquarian age is actual astrological shift happening in the sky that affects us as energy bodies here on earth... It is also my understanding the Yogi Bhajan was a master of Astrology but was forbidden by the US government to teach it. He knew a lot more about it than just hearing a song by the Fifth Dimension and running with it... ( love that song though!) > Just as we have a zodiac that shifts throughout the year , there are also much larger cycles and that is what the " Aquarian age " shift is referring too. There is a lot of information out there on this subject. I am no good at explaining it but its worth looking into. I am reading a book now that explains these macro astrological shifts throughout history in a very interesting context- I am betting a lot of you on this list would enjoy- Its by a Barbara Hand Clow and its called Catastrophobia - highly recommended > Sat Nam > Jamila > ps here is a link to that book- > http://www.amazon.com/Catastrophobia-Truth-Behind-Changes-Coming/dp/1879181622 > > Owner/ Designer > 11:11 enterprises > http://www.eleveneleven.net/ > http://blog.eleveneleven.net/ > > Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh@> wrote: > > > > Agreed. " Aquarian Age " can sound very woolly indeed. That's why I did the research and the book - partly to clarify (for myself, first of all) the role of Yogi Bhajan and Guru Nanak in this transition; partly to objectively quantify the transition itself. In brief, it would appear we are (and have for some time been, as a humanity) moving toward an era of increasing science, personal empowerment, transparency in governance, networking, and realization of (and corresponding awe and respect toward) holism in every sphere of life. Arnold Toynbee, the historian once described the 20th century as the first time in recorded history that people started to think and actively plan for the good of the whole planet. Now that's history! > > > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " schlawina76 " <nomadicantihero@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for explaining, Guru Fatha. For me the concept of Aquarian Age sounds a bit woolly, I've to admit, but I'm looking forward to your ebook about that matter which hopefully goes into more depths than anything I've heard so far. > > > I hear teachers mentioning the Aquarian Age sometimes but it feels as if they only quote Yogi Bhajan but don't really know a whole lot about it themselves. I could be wrong. And I don't reject the idea. I'm neutral but open and willing to learn. > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 27, 2010 Sat Nam Guru Fatha Singh, I remember, reading the same thing about Yogi Bhajan not being allowed to teach Astrology, but it is not in any US government tract, as I recall. It is in a Kundalini Yoga article, and I think one of his bios might have it. In fact, someone in this group brought it up last year. If the search function still worked, which it doesn't, I'd look for the post. Because I was going to ask that person, what they meant, but I never did. As I recall, Yogi Bhajan could not become a citizen of the US, until he agreed not to teach Astrology. If that is not so, and you know more, then please, cite the classes in Astrology that he taught, where and when. I have never seen them listed anywhere. Thank you, Sat Avtar Kaur Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh wrote: > > Dear Jamila - > > Sat Nam. Thanks for your enthusiastic endorsement of The Fifth Dimension's great song. But your understanding that Yogi Bhajan was forbidden by the US government to teach astrology sounds a bit woolly to me. Which section of the government? Under what statute and law? Where did you get that idea? > > Guru Fatha Singh > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 27, 2010 Dear Sat Avtar Ji, Sat NamHere is the message you are looking for.Blessings,Uttamjit in Rome, Italy.*---------- Forwarded message ----------Krishna Singh Khalsa <krishna Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:25 PM Re: RiddleKundalini-Yoga Sat Nam, Jai Jot Kaur -- I'm so happy that you asked. As there were no overt responses to the original question I posted, I wasn't able to know if the lack of response was due to simply " not knowing the answer (without acknowledging that) " OR if there was just a complete lack of interest in the question. IF there were no interest, then offering the answer would have been a gratuitous act on my part. However, Sat Ganesha Singh also lives here in Eugene, Oregon and he also expressed a strong interest in the question when I spoke with him personally on Saturday. Your post demonstrates at least " some interest about the question " within the forum, so I would like to share this information with you, and also an insight into the Kundalini Humanology of our multi-structure, multi-faceted, multi-tasking nature as human beings which actually calls for the same Science that Yogiji agreed not to teach. He was faithful to his word, whereas WE all NEED that knowledge, eventually, in order to find our wholeness as human beings on the Earth at this time. There is a core " humanological " difference between human female and male (Shakti and " Shaktiman " as Yogiji taught) that is crucial to our successful fulfillment of our humanity - personally, socially and spiritually. I've uploaded an illustration of the Female Yogi (ie., Yogini) in this light: indicating how we live in 5 simultaneous dimensions: Earthly, Lunar, Solar, Galactic and Cosmic. Female and Male Humans are identical in structure EXCEPT in the Lunar dimension, referencing the 13 Moon Centers in the Female body that facilitate and empower the Woman to give birth to new members of our species. The Male Human is a SERVANT in this realm, not " the Master. " The Male has a Lunar nature also, but it functions in an entirely different way. It is, however, CRUCIAL for the Male to master his understanding of the Female Lunar Structure, in order to have authentic interface with women and with the feminine, including the feminine qualities within himself. SO this illustration is based on the Female, as the Priority for support within the Lunar realm. The image is posted in the " Files " section of this website (you have to go to the website), it won't come through as an email attachment, if that's how you receive your Kundalini posts. The title is " Woman as Cosmic Shakti.png " and you should be able to open and view easily after you download the .png graphic file. SO, the answer to the riddle IS . . . (drum roll here, please): AS A PRE-CONDITION OF RECEIVING PERMANENT RESIDENCY STATUS FROM THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS SERVICE, YOGI BHAJAN WAS FORBIDDEN TO TEACH ASTROLOGY IN THE UNITED STATES. MOREOVER, AS YOGIJI HIMSELF ACKNOWLEDGED, HE WAS A MASTER OF ASTROLOGY AND WHAT HE COULD HAVE TAUGHT IS OF PROFOUND IMPORTANCE. Why was it important? Because the constituent entities of our Solar System (Sun, Planets, Moon, and Asteroids) ARE NOT SIMPLY whirling masses that are millions or hundreds of millions of miles away from us that, scientifically speaking, " may " or " may not " have any specifying influence in relation to human affairs on the Earth. In terms of our Human Nature and Structure ( " Humanology " ), as we are now capable of understanding and interpreting (via the teachings of Kundalini Yoga " as taught by Yogi Bhajan " ) THERE ARE 13 PLANETARY CENTERS WITHIN THE HUMAN BODY AND PSYCHE that deeply affect our mental, energetic and physical well being, as the cycles of our solar system progress and form aspects and relationships among themselves. The Solar System is a MACROCOSM, and WE are a MICROCOSM of the Solar System. Thankfully, WE are also a MICROCOSM of the Universe itself (as Wahe Guru). Hence, as Guru Nanak taught, the Ultimate Human Marriage is between the Human as Microcosm and the Universe (Wahe Guru) as Macrocosm. And, without this final caveat as taught by Guru Nanak, for us humans there would not be any ultimate hope for us. However, given the Truth of what Guru Nanak taught here, by forming a merged relationship with Wahe Guru (which is the essence of " Giving One's Head " in becoming Khalsa - which is an ultimate act of Pure Yoga) - we as " Pure, Living Human Essence " (Khalsa) ENJOY THE ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE OF " WAHE GURU JI KA KHALSA, WAHE GURU JI KI FATEH. " There can be no greater Yoga than this. It means that for the one who is " married " in essence and consciousness to the Essence of the Universe " - Every Success and Victory Belongs to Wahe Guru, and We as the " Faithful Spouses " of Wahe Guru, Shall Equally Participate in All of Wahe Guru's Victories. " All apparent obstacles and/or failures will be set aside as illusory. Which is why Khalsa is Akal (Deathless). And why Self-Mastery results in Mastery of Everything. We can use energetic healing in order to nurture the planetary centers in the human body, just as we can use these same methods of energetic healing to harmonize and restore health and relationships among the Human Subtle Bodies (which is a Galactic exercise), or the relations and health of the Moon Centers within the Female (and differently yet appropriately within the Male form). And, among the 7 Chakras, 100 trillion living cells and all the organ systems of the Earthly human body. When we are capable and accomplished in realizing balance and harmony in each of these four domains, we Integrate them into a Self-Realization of our Cosmic Humanity. The exact analog to this is " Aad Gurey Nameh (Earthly), Jugaad Gurey Nameh (Lunar), Sat Gurey Nameh (Solar), Siri Guru Devey Nameh (Galactic). Wahe Guru ji ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru ji ki Fateh! (Cosmic) Which would be the culmination of all yoga practices, from a descriptive frame of the teachings of Siri Singh Sahib Yogi Bhajan, and all those of Guru Nanak and the Gurus who follow him in the Lineage of Khalsa. WITHOUT INTEGRATING THE " ASTRO-LOGICAL " DIMENSIONS OF SPIRITUAL PRACTICE IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM, IN ORDER TO HEAL OR SURMOUNT THE DEMENTIAS OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM, AS WELL AS ALL THE NEEDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR HUMAN THRIVING AND SUCCESS, NONE OF THE ABOVE CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED SUCCESSFULLY OR SUSTAINABLY. This is why it is necessary for humanity to gain the knowledge that Yogiji was not allowed to give us personally or directly. But I would suggest that HE is actively teaching and guiding us more today than ever before, and that you can " Ask Him " and he will guide you. This is why Raj Yoga, which is capable of learning anything in the Universe, directly from the Akashic Intelligence, is a necessary skillset. And Raj Yoga, the basis of Ashtang Yoga, is the essential structural foundation of Kundalini Yoga, as taught by Yogi Bhajan. So, this conclusion is bound into the very foundations of what we have been so reliably taught. All that remains to be known is the beauty of the journey, the Path. May the long time sun shine upon you all as you continue on this Path. for many Blessings, Krishna Singh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 27, 2010 Sat Nam Uttamji, Thank you for sending this. It is the one I remember. Now I wonder why? Why this type of a response?? What did they know? AS A PRE-CONDITION OF RECEIVING PERMANENT RESIDENCY STATUS FROM THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS SERVICE, YOGI BHAJAN WAS FORBIDDEN TO TEACH ASTROLOGY IN THE UNITED STATES.government and does anyone on there know? Sat Avtar Kaur Kundalini-Yoga , Uttamjit <uttamjit.k wrote: > > Dear Sat Avtar Ji, Sat Nam > > Here is the message you are looking for. > Blessings, > Uttamjit in Rome, Italy. > > * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 27, 2010 Sat Nam, Guru Fatha Singh ji - Basically, it was under the Statute of Non-Liberty, and the Law of " I'm the boss and you're not. " Yogiji was talking about hearings with an officer of the Immigration Service who stipulated that he (Yogi Bhajan) had to agree NOT to teach astrology in order to secure (either) his Permanent Residency status, or perhaps it was his Green Card (to have livelihood in the U.S.). In either case, things like this happen all the time in the Customs and Immigration Service. In this lecture in Los Angeles during the 1970's, I recall that there were two points being made in which Yogiji cited this situation about astrology. One, numerous times he described the " overall field " of knowledge of Kundalini Yoga, and sometimes shared that he had only scratched the surface of knowledge he had realized as a yogi. And he said that one very important area was Astrology (not necessarily the astrology of " personality " but of mundane and cosmic forces that contribute to the creation of " the world, " and how Kundalini connects with these forces. It is a very important study, and the earlier citations I mentioned the other day about the Esoteric tradition in astrology is precisely about this. But the approach to these issues via Kundalini (and Kundalini Yoga) is more profound, and also more in alignment with Mayan approaches to cosmic causality (that Yogiji spoke extensively about on August 17, 1987 in a lecture just before the so-called Harmonic Convergence). I know that date because I transcribed it personally, it is so precious. And a transcript is on this website, titled " Yogi Bhajan, What Coming Age Owes to Mayan Culture.pdf. " But then he mentioned how little he had shared with us " about " astrology, because of the stipulation and the agreement he had made with the Immigration officer that he would not teach astrology. One of the most significant aspects of that moment was about " HAVING GIVEN HIS WORD NOT TO TEACH ASTROLOGY " for some stupid stipulation of a government official. His point was " THAT HE HAD KEPT HIS WORD. " The teachings of these view of astrology are very real and beautiful and meaningful, and he had mastered them. But they are not actually CRITICAL to " getting us into " the Aquarian Age. The Aquarian Age is going to happen by virtue of the Cosmic Will, not because we have astrological knowledge. We'll enter the Aquarian Age by virtue of how we live, not because of what we " know. " But once there the knowledge is important, and it will be gained anyway whether Yogiji taught it in his lifetime or not. How? - Through Raja Yoga, critical analysis and deeply reflective investigation, these teachings will be regained. It's our research for the future, as Wahe Guru guides us. It has been a deep interest of mine from childhood. My uncle, Luther Jensen, was a pioneering astrologer in the early 20th century. He was an economist who specialized in mundane astrology and the study of economic cycles, and influences of trade and commodities. He was my " godfather " and the lore of astrology was an unmistakable part of our household culture while I was growing up. My uncle published a short book titled " The Aquarian Age " in 1942. The only copy I ever saw was in 1982, in the Library of Now that copy seems to have disappeared. This may provide some understanding as to why the subject of astrology was so meaningful to me, that I could forget any references to astrology that my spiritual teacher might have made. My memory on points like this is photographic and vivid. Here is an interesting sidenote: There is an entire reality of a cosmic energy pyramid that is embedded in the 12 zodiac signs, with the 4 fixed signs (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius) forming the base of a pyramid from their respective positions in the circular zodiac. Please understand that these four signs ALSO DEFINE THE MYTHICAL CREATURE KNOWN AS THE SPHINX. I've been working personally in the integration of processes for Energy Healing (very similar to Sat Nam Rasayan, as I've practiced SNR since 1996 and was certified as a practitioner in 1999). These teachings of astrology very powerfully integrate the bases for healing of humanity and for spiritual knowledge for the Aquarian Age we're now entering. I would be happy to share more with anyone who is actually interested in the work. But for now, I'll share a few points that relate to the relationship between Kundalini Yoga, astrology, the Aquarian Age and the Zodiac system. The following is a quote from a text of Rei Ki do Satori (now in translation from Russian). In the basis of transmission of a Power Channel for Spiritual Healing, lie the Mysteries of the Sphinx or the Mysteries of Pyramids that are based on the Law of Spiritual-Informational-Energy Development. Some ancient icons have preserved the full and correct disposition of the symbols of Sphinx: Eagle, Angel, Leo and Taurus. The Sphinx is a mythical creature whose face is that of a human being (Aquarius, the water carrier), the front part of its body is that of a lion (Leo), the back part of the body is that of a bull (Taurus). The Sphinx also possesses the wings of an eagle (the three symbols for Scorpio are scorpion, serpent, and eagle). Fixed signs (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius) are " ruled by " ( " apprentices of " ) the Cardinal signs (Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn). The sector of the 10th, 11th, and 12th houses is governed by Capricorn which is ruled by Saturn. Our teacher, Yogi Bhajan, was famously known as a " Saturn teacher. " Now it becomes crystal clear as to WHY a Saturn teacher is/was so critical to the inception of the Aquarian Age. A model for human life ( " lifestyle " ) is being set down at this time for the next 5000 years of what Guru Gobind Singh called the Khalsa Raj, the Era of Khalsa. It may be possible to run and dodge, slip or slide with the Truth for a short period before things fall apart in human life, but for a rock solid, 5000 year Age of Truth and Purity (ie., " Khalsa " ) playing games with the Truth will never work. This is why one can appreciate so much the absolutely finicky perfectionism the Yogiji generally imposed when he " hammered " the best of his students with the " Velvet Hammer " of his teachings. You cannot play games with the Truth (witness the current debacle going on with governance of Sikh Dharma/Unto Infinity/Siri Singh Sahib corporation) and you will appreciate anew why this current battle is so important. These folks refer in a very insulting way to " Yogi Bhajan's brand of Sikhism " that they are proclaiming the be some kind of anachronism. In fact, being in our teacher's presence for extended periods was a very difficult thing to do, because he so appropriately and always reminded us of all the imperfections and latent ego trips we all still have to refine out of our psyches in order to live truly as Aquarian beings. He probably hammered these Unto Infinity folks as much or more than any of us, and THEY (now show) that they obviously and deeply resented it. I can say that I treasure every time that he beat me up (mentally), dismissed me, banished or exiled me, it was all for turning a rough and rolling stone into a polished gemstone. How could not be grateful for the result, if we stick around long enough to experience and enjoy the results. The tragedy is that these miserable miscreants jumped off the train just before the destination. Que Lastima! Guru Fatha Singh ji, I respect your skepticism regarding the US gov. representative's stipulation that Yogiji NOT teach astrology, but I clearly heard him discuss it. If this seems arbitrary, stupid or " woolly " (as you say)that does not mean that it didn't happen, it is a common political occurrence, I'll cite a example of the same mentality of " social thought control " from the just the other day, of exactly the same kind of arbitrariness, FROM CANADA. see next: " It seems enough rowdy Canadians turned up to protest Ann Coulter's speech at the University of Ottawa that they had to cancel it, which is all well and good. Still, some questioned why Canada would let such a hate-filled creep into their placid land to begin with - especially since they just banned British anti-war M.P George Galloway, who has led aid convoys to Gaza. Galloway, who is scheduled to speak at a March 30 war-resistance forum, was deemed 'inadmissible' because of his opposition to the war in Afghanistan. He called the ban 'idiotic.' " From CommonDreams.org, March 24, 2010 http://www.commondreams.org/further/2010/03/24-2 Perhaps this enough to express the point - that we live in unreasonable times, and we're working, sacrificing and giving in order to experience a change of the times to a better time, which we generally describe as the coming Aquarian Age. Very soon now One final comment (opinion?) – If capitalism survives into the Aquarian Age, it will not be the kind of egocentric, greed based empire capitalism of money and power that is being played on the world stage today. It could only be the kind of capitalism that Guru Nanak describes in the 38th Pauri of Japji Sahib: Let self-control be the furnace, and patience the goldsmith. Let understanding be the anvil, and spiritual wisdom the tools. With the Fear of God as the bellows, fan the flames of tapa, the body's inner heat. In the crucible of love, melt the Nectar of the Name, and mint the True Coin of the Shabad, the Word of God. Such is the karma of those upon whom He has cast His Glance of Grace. O Nanak, the Merciful Lord, by His Grace, uplifts and exalts them. This is a future well worth looking forward to, and for making great personal sacrifices in order to enter with grace. I remember a psychedelic poster from 1968, saying " I HOPE THE MESSIAH COMES SOON - BEFORE I FREAK OUT FOREVER. " Well, since our beloved teacher arrived in this western land, we don't have to (actually, should not) allow ANYTHING to freak us out, not matter how weird or bizarre. But the pains of waiting and working until then are real anyway. For the Aquarian Age, these are some of the costs of admission that we must bear with a smile. I hope there is something in all of this that leaves you feeling rewarded for having read so much about something so subtle (and beautiful). Keep smiling! for many Blessings, Krishna Singh Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh wrote: > > Dear Jamila - > > Sat Nam. Thanks for your enthusiastic endorsement of The Fifth Dimension's great song. But your understanding that Yogi Bhajan was forbidden by the US government to teach astrology sounds a bit woolly to me. Which section of the government? Under what statute and law? Where did you get that idea? > > Guru Fatha Singh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 28, 2010 " Lot of people these days are believing in channelling. Channelling to what? Channelling from what? Which radio station to radio station, which T.V. channel to T.V. channel? Some people want to know their past life to get the clue to this life. What clue? What past life? Some people want to know. I am the biggest astrologer on the planet. Learn from the biggest master. After learning I can tell you. Astrology, numerology, astronomy, sociology, psychology, psychiatry all this is necessity for idiots. " -Yogi Bhajan http://fateh.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/articles.nsf/9dee2aa6164e1d9b87256671004e06c7/e\ d24f2558518fe7887256671004e4657!OpenDocument & Highlight=0,astrology Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2010 Sat Nam, Krishna Singh-ji - As I put together Yogiji's biography, I must rely on the materials I have. What I hear that I cannot find sound evidence for, I naturally have to be wary of embracing as the truth. If you could send me the transcript of the lecture you speak of - and any other recollections of Yogiji you might like to share for posterity - I would be most grateful. I am not sure the search engine for this forum works and if it does, I am not aware of how to work it. Thanks for sharing your recollections and perspectives. I have my own experience with the lovely people who police what is America and what is not. (They call them " Homeland Security. " ) But that's a story for another time. Thanks again. Blessings abounding... Guru Fatha Singh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 30, 2010 Sat Nam, Ji - a transcript would be a luxury I cannot provide. the clear imprint of his talk is in the most important storage bank of all, which is my bio-memory. this teaching occurred years before all the teachings were being transcribed, and I've never felt a need to research what I've heard or experienced directly. You may " bracket " or footnote the information for later verification if you like, but this is a meaningful (though minor) factoid of our history. Those who have access to the library of transcripts may allow ( " a scholar of the teachings " ) to search directly, where most of us do not yet have access. But savor the implications of this quirk in " mental " or " academic " freedom. I'm sure it lines with the other quasi-political experiences you mentioned in your response. we're not out of the woods or the empire yet. many Blessings, Krishna Singh Kundalini-Yoga , " guru fatha singh " <gurufathasingh wrote: > > Sat Nam, Krishna Singh-ji - > > As I put together Yogiji's biography, I must rely on the materials I have. What I hear that I cannot find sound evidence for, I naturally have to be wary of embracing as the truth. > > If you could send me the transcript of the lecture you speak of - and any other recollections of Yogiji you might like to share for posterity - I would be most grateful. I am not sure the search engine for this forum works and if it does, I am not aware of how to work it. > > Thanks for sharing your recollections and perspectives. I have my own experience with the lovely people who police what is America and what is not. (They call them " Homeland Security. " ) But that's a story for another time. > > Thanks again. > > Blessings abounding... > > Guru Fatha Singh > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
