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I don't know the answer to this, but I have a few questions and

thoughts for you. Do you WANT to close it down? Is anyone's life

easy and should it be? (where's the reward)

 

Carol, I don't pretend to know what difficulties you are going

through right now, but I do know that at the beginning of the K we

might question why we would want to be on the path and it can seem

really daunting. I have been through that myself and I know several

others who have too. If you push through these difficulties you

might find that you want to stay on this path.

 

I also noticed that surrender is very critical on this path. I don't

know if you have issues with that or not, but the road can get quite

rocky if we aren't " listening " to Shakti.

 

Are these difficulties that you can discuss with us? Perhaps if we

know what you are struggling with, some help can be offered to you.

 

Bless you Carol.

 

Sarita

 

, Carol Moulin

<moulincarol wrote:

>

> Hey there all...

>

> I went to see a chap the other day - (spiritual) and he felt that

because since my " K " activation my life was less than easy that I

should ..

>

>

> close the Kundalini down....

>

> Can this be done??

>

> Thoughts.

>

> Love and light

>

> Carol

>

>

>

>

>

> Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new 7 Mail

now.

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Hi Carol, welcome!

 

Gosh, what life isn't less than easy!? Everyone here is on the

kundalini path, and I doubt that you would find someone that would

want to shut it down... Maybe you just need some traveling companions

to share the hardships and joys with that understand what you're going

through? If so, you've come to the right place.

 

Here's a link to our webpage that has a great deal of information

about the path, and a search engine to help you answer any questions.

Let us know a little about you?

 

http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com

 

Love,

dhyana

 

P.S. Are you the Carole I invited???

 

 

 

, Carol Moulin

<moulincarol wrote:

>

> Hey there all...

>

> I went to see a chap the other day - (spiritual) and he felt that

because since my " K " activation my life was less than easy that I

should ..

>

>

> close the Kundalini down....

>

> Can this be done??

>

> Thoughts.

>

> Love and light

>

> Carol

>

>

>

>

>

> Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new 7 Mail now.

>

>

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Hi Brian -

 

I believe it is on as usual. 12-22. Same procedure - post your

picture, make your declaration, yada, yada. Margritas afterwards!

(Just kidding - couldn't resist!)

 

Much Love,

 

Melissa

 

, brian yeates

<byeates2 wrote:

>

> hey gang

> this has prob been asked already but whats happening with the

december shakipat?

>

>

> be well

> brian yeates

>

>

> Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with

for Good

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Hello Brian,

 

In order to participate in the Shaktipat, you need to be in regular

practice of the Safeties. uses the AAA Scatterfield and

Winter Solstice Shaktipat photo albums to keep track of all

participants. A picture clearly showing your eyes is best as

sometimes the optic nerve is used to deliver Shaktipat to you. You

need to make a public declaration of your intent to follow the

Safeties, allow a scatterfield to be placed and for Shaktipat to be

given.

 

The effects you receive from the Shaktipat will be in direct

correlation to your practice of the Safeties. You get out what you

put in. I don't know if you have a flow already, but the results will

vary from person to person.

 

Let us know if you have any other questions!

 

Sarita

 

 

, brian yeates

<byeates2 wrote:

>

> hey gang

> this has prob been asked already but whats happening with the

december shakipat?

>

>

> be well

> brian yeates

>

>

> Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with

for Good

>

>

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Hello Laura Joyce,

It is good to read of your realization with regard

to your service! Nice to see you translating that into activity. As

far as the Third Tibetan goes if you are not able to do the third

are you still able to do the fifth? If the third is giving you some

difficulty still try and do it but without doing the back bend.

Bring your neck and head up and bring your eyes up.

 

If it is the neck injury that is bothering you then skip it and do

the others but only if you cannot by any means bring your head to

look up as if you are looking at the moon from that position.

 

The " pop " is often a symptom of Kundalini. Typically it is

accompanied by an on rush of energy up the spine or a sensation of a

heat build up or a release of a pressure. What accompanied

your " pop " if anything? - blessings Laura - chrism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kundalini-Awakening-Systems-

1 , " laurashomefires " <laurashomefires wrote:

>

> Something happened the other night that was odd. There was a pop

in

> the base of my spine just like a bubble. It felt strange but

didn't

> hurt. I just have no other way to describe it right now.

>

> I just have to tell you. I had the most wonderful weekend and came

to

> realize that I have something to offer people, something God

given….

> That something is Love. I have been gifted with some amazing

recovery

> in my life and keeping it all to myself. How selfish of me. Yep I

> have been coming home from work and sitting on the couch claiming

I

> am too tired to do anything for to long. Well I want to get out

there

> and see people I have a burning desire to help. I realize now I

have

> been selfish for too long. So that's what I did this weekend I

helped

> people Lovingly helped. And it felt great…

>

> I have a question. My lower spine was injured when I was a child

(the

> coccyx and also the area in the lumbar) then as an adult I hurt my

> neck. I am always in some pain or another but for the most part I

do

> what I want. My problem is that I am having a very difficult time

> bending backwards and still can't complete Rite #3. Not even close

to

> getting my back to bend. Questions… Will this affect my K and is

> there something else I could do to replace it. I have been trying

it

> to the best of my ability but it's still a no go so far.

>

> Thanks

> Laura Joyce

>

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This is wonderful to hear Laura! When we have surmounted challenges

in our own lives it sometimes puts us in a unique position to help

others. Good for you!

 

Sarita

 

Kundalini-Awakening-Systems-

1 , " laurashomefires " <laurashomefires wrote:

>

> Something happened the other night that was odd. There was a pop in

> the base of my spine just like a bubble. It felt strange but didn't

> hurt. I just have no other way to describe it right now.

>

> I just have to tell you. I had the most wonderful weekend and came

to

> realize that I have something to offer people, something God

given….

> That something is Love. I have been gifted with some amazing

recovery

> in my life and keeping it all to myself. How selfish of me. Yep I

> have been coming home from work and sitting on the couch claiming I

> am too tired to do anything for to long. Well I want to get out

there

> and see people I have a burning desire to help. I realize now I

have

> been selfish for too long. So that's what I did this weekend I

helped

> people Lovingly helped. And it felt great…

>

> I have a question. My lower spine was injured when I was a child

(the

> coccyx and also the area in the lumbar) then as an adult I hurt my

> neck. I am always in some pain or another but for the most part I

do

> what I want. My problem is that I am having a very difficult time

> bending backwards and still can't complete Rite #3. Not even close

to

> getting my back to bend. Questions… Will this affect my K and is

> there something else I could do to replace it. I have been trying

it

> to the best of my ability but it's still a no go so far.

>

> Thanks

> Laura Joyce

>

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Thanks chrism that's what I have been doing. As long as it's ok I'm

good. I can do the fifth because it requires my back to bend in a

different way. It's hard but I really think that the more I do the

stronger my back will get. Sometimes like today I don't do them

because I am afraid to push too much. I hope that's ok.

 

The popping did feel warm but not rushing up my whole spine it really

just moved around the area that it popped in. I defiantly felt a

release of a pressure also I had a feeling that it was ok and not

panicked at all. I was Triangluar breathing w/ the Love of Christ at

the time and was in a very nice place. It was a good feeling. I woke

up the next day and hopped right out of bed and continued to have

what I think of as one of the best days of my life. It was wonderful

and full of Love for my all fellow humans.

Love and Light - Laura Joyce

 

 

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Hello Laura Joyce,

> It is good to read of your realization with

regard

> to your service! Nice to see you translating that into activity. As

> far as the Third Tibetan goes if you are not able to do the third

> are you still able to do the fifth? If the third is giving you some

> difficulty still try and do it but without doing the back bend.

> Bring your neck and head up and bring your eyes up.

>

> If it is the neck injury that is bothering you then skip it and do

> the others but only if you cannot by any means bring your head to

> look up as if you are looking at the moon from that position.

>

> The " pop " is often a symptom of Kundalini. Typically it is

> accompanied by an on rush of energy up the spine or a sensation of

a

> heat build up or a release of a pressure. What accompanied

> your " pop " if anything? - blessings Laura - chrism

>

Kundalini-Awakening-Systems-

> 1 , " laurashomefires " <laurashomefires@> wrote:

> >

> > Something happened the other night that was odd. There was a pop

> in

> > the base of my spine just like a bubble. It felt strange but

> didn't

> > hurt. I just have no other way to describe it right now.

> >

> > I just have to tell you. I had the most wonderful weekend and

came

> to

> > realize that I have something to offer people, something God

> given….

> > That something is Love. I have been gifted with some amazing

> recovery

> > in my life and keeping it all to myself. How selfish of me. Yep I

> > have been coming home from work and sitting on the couch claiming

> I

> > am too tired to do anything for to long. Well I want to get out

> there

> > and see people I have a burning desire to help. I realize now I

> have

> > been selfish for too long. So that's what I did this weekend I

> helped

> > people Lovingly helped. And it felt great…

> >

> > I have a question. My lower spine was injured when I was a child

> (the

> > coccyx and also the area in the lumbar) then as an adult I hurt

my

> > neck. I am always in some pain or another but for the most part I

> do

> > what I want. My problem is that I am having a very difficult time

> > bending backwards and still can't complete Rite #3. Not even

close

> to

> > getting my back to bend. Questions… Will this affect my K and is

> > there something else I could do to replace it. I have been trying

> it

> > to the best of my ability but it's still a no go so far.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Laura Joyce

> >

>

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It's true, we don't always know what God's plan is for us, we just

have to trust that it's right.

 

, " Sarita "

<sarita1969 wrote:

>

> This is wonderful to hear Laura! When we have surmounted

challenges

> in our own lives it sometimes puts us in a unique position to help

> others. Good for you!

>

> Sarita

>

> Kundalini-Awakening-Systems-

> 1 , " laurashomefires " <laurashomefires@> wrote:

> >

> > Something happened the other night that was odd. There was a pop

in

> > the base of my spine just like a bubble. It felt strange but

didn't

> > hurt. I just have no other way to describe it right now.

> >

> > I just have to tell you. I had the most wonderful weekend and

came

> to

> > realize that I have something to offer people, something God

> given….

> > That something is Love. I have been gifted with some amazing

> recovery

> > in my life and keeping it all to myself. How selfish of me. Yep I

> > have been coming home from work and sitting on the couch claiming

I

> > am too tired to do anything for to long. Well I want to get out

> there

> > and see people I have a burning desire to help. I realize now I

> have

> > been selfish for too long. So that's what I did this weekend I

> helped

> > people Lovingly helped. And it felt great…

> >

> > I have a question. My lower spine was injured when I was a child

> (the

> > coccyx and also the area in the lumbar) then as an adult I hurt

my

> > neck. I am always in some pain or another but for the most part I

> do

> > what I want. My problem is that I am having a very difficult time

> > bending backwards and still can't complete Rite #3. Not even

close

> to

> > getting my back to bend. Questions… Will this affect my K and is

> > there something else I could do to replace it. I have been trying

> it

> > to the best of my ability but it's still a no go so far.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Laura Joyce

> >

>

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I certainly came down with a cold, congestion, cough, the whole works. Who

knows if it was viral or not? Actually something is going around at work.

As for soreness, at the base of my spine I am sore, slightly bruised (no

problem, probably from my meds) and my right hip is bothering me too. It's

getting better.

 

 

 

Thomas

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of

laurashomefires

Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:01 AM

 

Question

 

 

 

These past week I have been having a very difficult time doing the

mantras and meditating. Every time I try my nose is all clogged up.

When I stop and move around again my noses seems to clear. It's the

strangest thing. I know I have just clear something big out of my

system although I am not sure what it is. It has left me very tired and

sore all over and don't seem to have any energy or be able to

concentrate.

Has this been happened to anyone else?

Love and Light

Laura Joyce

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I can understand also . Must be something in the air . My daughter was

ill with flu symptoms for two days and my wife was just release from

the hospital after admitted three days ago with bad flu symptoms .

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You may want to try a neti pot. The old-time yogis were very specific

about cleansing their sinuses...

 

Sel

 

, " laurashomefires "

<laurashomefires wrote:

>

> These past week I have been having a very difficult time doing the

> mantras and meditating. Every time I try my nose is all clogged up.

> When I stop and move around again my noses seems to clear. It's the

> strangest thing. I know I have just clear something big out of my

> system although I am not sure what it is. It has left me very tired

and

> sore all over and don't seem to have any energy or be able to

> concentrate.

> Has this been happened to anyone else?

> Love and Light

> Laura Joyce

>

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Sel,

 

Neti pots work great and I can attest to that and it helped to clear

up a sinus infection.

 

Kind regards...Angelina

 

, " selena230 "

<selena230 wrote:

>

> You may want to try a neti pot. The old-time yogis were very specific

> about cleansing their sinuses...

>

> Sel

>

> , " laurashomefires "

> <laurashomefires@> wrote:

> >

> > These past week I have been having a very difficult time doing the

> > mantras and meditating. Every time I try my nose is all clogged up.

> > When I stop and move around again my noses seems to clear. It's the

> > strangest thing. I know I have just clear something big out of my

> > system although I am not sure what it is. It has left me very tired

> and

> > sore all over and don't seem to have any energy or be able to

> > concentrate.

> > Has this been happened to anyone else?

> > Love and Light

> > Laura Joyce

> >

>

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Dear Laura,

 

There have certainly been times when I have felt just

like you, unmotivated, totally tired, hardly able to

concerntrate on prayer or meditation.

When I feel like this I try to drink more water and

spend some time outside alone in nature.

Don't be too hard on your self and do what you can.

 

Love elektra x x x

 

 

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It depends on the individual Melissa. Karma also plays a role and not

just from this life but other incarnations. Kundalini does follow into

the death experience though. What dynamics a person has regarding

balances that need to be made will determine what life is given for

that period of time for that person. -imho - chrism

 

, " Melissa "

<mm7810 wrote:

Does one have to start over, or is it just

> once?

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It is for giving the spinal chord a slight stretch. Allows for an open

physical channel. -

 

 

, " Linda "

<crazycats711 wrote:

>Is holding the chin down to the chest, it that what is refered as the

neck lock?

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Maybe why people bow their heads when they pray...interesting.

V.

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> It is for giving the spinal chord a slight stretch. Allows for an

open

> physical channel. -

>

>

> , " Linda "

> <crazycats711@> wrote:

> >Is holding the chin down to the chest, it that what is refered as

the

> neck lock?

>

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Philip St. Romain, said in his book that the neck lock was of

importance and benefit to him and was wondering if it was the same

thing as the chin to chest posture.

 

Linda

 

, " Valarie

Vousden " <vjvousden wrote:

>

> Maybe why people bow their heads when they pray...interesting.

> V.

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > It is for giving the spinal chord a slight stretch. Allows for an

> open

> > physical channel. -

> >

> >

> > , " Linda "

> > <crazycats711@> wrote:

> > >Is holding the chin down to the chest, it that what is refered

as

> the

> > neck lock?

> >

>

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The neck lock seals the energy that is generated in the upper areas of the brain stem.

It prevents undue changes in blood pressure that can sometimes be induced by exercise and breathing. It acts as a safety valve that regulates the pressure by reducing dizziness that can result from a practice. It is easier to focus on internal sensations and perceptions without distraction from the peripheral senses when you hold this lock. It creates nerve relexes that stimulate and balance the thyroid and parathyroid glands. It directs the flow of pranic energy into the central channel past the neck and in the central channel relative to the heart. Without the neck lock, the pranayama energy could flow to the ears or eyes or other places. With the lock, the heart is calmed and the flow of energy is natural. Helps contain the energy of the Moon Center at the chin. It prevents the nectarss of the brain from dispersing too quickly. Jalabandhar is the upward pull that opens the gate to the brain's

watery nectars. By applying this lock there is an increased concentraion of secretions that allows a new level of interrelatedness between the glands. There are potentials in the mostly dormant pineal that can only be awakened by concentrating the "nectar of the moon." This lock is a simple systematic practice that gradually leads to opening that special connectedness.

Julie--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Valarie Vousden <vjvousden wrote:

Valarie Vousden <vjvousden Re: Question Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 7:48 PM

 

 

Maybe why people bow their heads when they pray...interesting.V.Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "chrism" <@ ...> wrote:>> It is for giving the spinal chord a slight stretch. Allows for an open > physical channel. - > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "Linda" > <crazycats711@ > wrote:> >Is holding the chin down to the chest, it that what is refered as the > neck lock?>

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Thanks you Julie, that was what I was wanting to know.

big hug,

Linda

 

, Julie

<jewelport wrote:

>

> The neck lock seals the energy that is generated in the upper areas

of the brain stem.

> It prevents undue changes in blood pressure that can sometimes be

induced by exercise and breathing.  It acts as a safety valve that

regulates the pressure by reducing dizziness that can result from a

practice.  It is easier to focus on internal sensations and

perceptions without distraction from the peripheral senses when you

hold this lock.  It creates nerve relexes that stimulate and balance

the thyroid and parathyroid glands.  It directs the flow of pranic

energy into the central channel past the neck and in the central

channel relative to the heart.  Without the neck lock, the pranayama

energy could flow to the ears or eyes or other places.  With the

lock, the heart is calmed and the flow of energy is natural.  Helps

contain the energy of the Moon Center at the chin.  It prevents the

nectarss of the brain from dispersing too quickly.  Jalabandhar is

the upward pull that opens the gate to the brain's watery nectars. 

By applying this lock

> there is an increased concentraion of secretions that allows a new

level of interrelatedness between the glands.  There are potentials

in the mostly dormant pineal that can only be awakened by

concentrating the " nectar of the moon. "   This lock is a simple

systematic practice that gradually leads to opening that special

connectedness.

>

>

> Julie

>

> --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Valarie Vousden <vjvousden wrote:

>

> Valarie Vousden <vjvousden

> Re: Question

>

> Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 7:48 PM

Maybe why people bow their heads when they pray...interesting.

> V.

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " chrism "

> <@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > It is for giving the spinal chord a slight stretch. Allows for an

> open

> > physical channel. -

> >

> >

> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Linda "

> > <crazycats711@ > wrote:

> > >Is holding the chin down to the chest, it that what is refered

as

> the

> > neck lock?

> >

>

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I will suggest that the " logical linear " process of understanding physical

phenomena will not translate well into the Kundalini phenomena paradigm.

 

Over mentalizing and reaching for linear conclusions can trap a person as they

will continuously try to " make sense " from a physical based paradigm of

phenomena that are not physical. Even when including the energetic construct of

a physical organ we can become far to attached to figuring out what is going on.

 

All will become clear in time. As clear as your surrender will allow it to be. -

 

 

, Skoogle Msb

<skoogle_msb wrote:

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> My question still remains.

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Thanks Chrism. <> Sent: Friday, 6 March, 2009 12:58:04 AM Re: Question

 

I will suggest that the "logical linear" process of understanding physical phenomena will not translate well into the Kundalini phenomena paradigm.

 

Over mentalizing and reaching for linear conclusions can trap a person as they will continuously try to "make sense" from a physical based paradigm of phenomena that are not physical. Even when including the energetic construct of a physical organ we can become far to attached to figuring out what is going on.

 

All will become clear in time. As clear as your surrender will allow it to be. -

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Skoogle Msb <skoogle_msb@ ...> wrote:

>

> My question still remains.

 

 

 

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I've had a lot of itching and mild discomfort in my crotch/vaginal area for the

last couple of days, as if I've been doing long distance cycling (which I

haven't). I've also had some cold feelings in my lower pelvic area and some

intermittent low back pain. Is this part of the K activity? any suggestions on

anything I need to do?? Thanks.

blessings,

jan

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Hello all,I finished yesterday my 40 day discipline of the gan pattee. This was my 3rd and the first I only did up to 37 and I had some freak out so took a break there for a week before I decided to start another one. So with the last 2 disciplines, they were both consecutive so I am thinking to continue and then I'll have done it for 120 days.

I am wondering though, since I have practiced sanskrit mantras, I have read that sometimes after you do a discipline, you can take a break and let the personality catch up to all the emotional changes. I wonder if I need to do that but part of me just wants to plough through (the capricorn in me I guess)

Should I take a break and think of my intention? I think though I think of my intentions anyways.Any thoughts?ThanksPaula

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