Negative entities as defined in KY?

[Guest guest]

HI everyone:I am fairly new to the teachings of Yogi Bhajan, and am curious to know what has been said about negative entities attaching themselves to human bodies. I had an intense dream the other night pertaining to this topic, and YB was there! Is there a 'meditation to dispel negative entities"?

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam, Abner --

In a very core sense, ALL meditation is about expelling unrealities

from our identity by claiming, committing, manifesting and resonating

with our TRUE IDENTITY. Guru Nanak expressed the most elegantly

simple formulation of our True Identity as Sa-Ta-Na-Ma (the Panj

Shabd, Five Primal Sounds representing each element of which Life is

made as well as the Four Phases (or seasons) of all Life Cycles. In

this light, Guru Nanak said, " Panj Shabd Sarb Ko Gian, Sat Nam. " Sat

Nam contains within it ALL the wisdom of the universe. All Raj Yoga

meditations and mantras are in consistent alignment with this, but the

Crown Jewel is Kirtan Kriya (from a perspective of Kundalini Yoga as

taught by Yogi Bhajan). There are other authentic perspective as

well, that fully complement this, but your question was about " how the

teachings of Yogi Bhajan would approach this issue? "

 

There are new understandings emerging, taking advantage of Information

Systems concepts and metaphors, that view these alien entities as

something very similar to computer viruses or other " malware " that

enter into the resonant field of the mind (which IS a computer par

excellence) and take up disruptive, parasitic residence in the mind

" field. " There are certain advanced energy healing techniques now

emerging that are like the computer clearing software for removing

viruses and malware from an operating system. Our essential

" operating system " is the 8 syllable Ashtang Mantra, " Ek Ong Kar, Sat

Nam, Siri, Wahe Guru. " In my energy healing work, this mantra

provides the touchstone for clearing all mental pollution. When one

can crystallize oneself around this 8 syllable plotline, the the

pressure has produced the diamond and nothing can enter or interfere

with that level of coherent self-integration. This is how Kal and

Akal jointly produce Invincibility in the cycle of Sa-Ta-Na-Ma, and

where fearlessness is generated through Pranayama. The direction is

up to the individual because from THIS perspective ALL VECTORS POINT

TO THE SAME INFINITY. So, now matter which direction one's life is

drawn, by starting from this point we all end at the same place, which

is Divine Union. Early in 1970 Yogi Bhajan inspired the performance

of a musical play in Hollywood, called Divine Union. You have to ask

someone who was there what it was like. I was in New Mexico in

process of moving to Los Angeles, and did not see it.

 

Perhaps this may be helpful to your question and your dream. Our most

powerful high road to clearing all these entities which are holdovers

from past karma, and the weaknesses that make us vulnerable to

external manipulation or parasitic co-dependency (this is another

whole language to approach your question), our high road is White

Tantric Yoga - another priceless gift from the master who taught us

(teachers to teach).

 

for many Blessings,

Krishna Singh

 

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Abner Wilner <senatorabner

wrote:

>

> HI everyone:

> I am fairly new to the teachings of Yogi Bhajan, and am curious to

know what has been said about negative entities attaching themselves

to human bodies. I had an intense dream the other night pertaining to

this topic, and YB was there!

> Is there a 'meditation to dispel negative entities " ?

>

[Guest guest]

Is this for real? Are you the same 'occultist' that's been plastering

anxious messages and then gleeful resopsnes? It seems to me that your

playing around in your mind and your not really serious about spiritual

development. I am sorry but I wonder if your just messing with all of

us here. By the way, I AM an occultist and yogi. To my Knowledge Yogi

Bhajan did not mention anything about discarnate entities. I think

though, he'd say if you were doing KY and not doing other things that

could weaken your aura that you should be throughly protected. I think

you want problems and enjoy them.

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Abner Wilner <senatorabner

wrote:

>

> HI everyone:

> I am fairly new to the teachings of Yogi Bhajan, and am curious to

know what has been said about negative entities attaching themselves to

human bodies. I had an intense dream the other night pertaining to

this topic, and YB was there!

> Is there a 'meditation to dispel negative entities " ?

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Abner,

 

You indeed are a wonderfully lucky fellow! As you know, when Yogi Bhajan is in your dream, he is really, really there! He in fact does peel off negative entities. I have seen him do it--totally without fanfare or calling attention to it!!

 

We actually don't spend much time worrying about such things, rather we primarily rely on the beautiful Light energy raised by doing Kundalini Yoga and Mediation as well as Guru Ram Das and all of our very powerful mantras to deal with any lurking yuck!

 

I have known people to get stuck and obsessed about negative entities, and that obsession can only cause much more harm because it draws that stuff to them.

 

Now, Yogi Bhajan has given us some really wonderful protections! The one that we of course use all the time is the way we begin every KY set--that is "Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo" for protection and guidance. Often we just do this out of habit, not realizing its power. But it's really amazing! You can read more about it at www.SoulAnswer.com/tuning_in.html .

 

And of course, Yogi Bhajan taught us to call on Baba Siri Chand--the great yogi son of Guru Nanak to return dark energy or "magic" to it source. You can read more about that and just how to do it at www.SoulAnswer.com/baba_siri_chand.html .

 

So as an ongoing practice, I would suggest that you simply use mantra and breath to keep yourself in love and in the Light, and let go of fear. Fear will actually call that unwanted energy that you are afraid of to you. A great kriya that he gave to let go of fear is at www.SoulAnswer.com/fear_eradication.html .

 

Have great fun, kindness and love in your life as you practice these beloved technologies! And welcome to the Kundalini Community!

 

Lots of Love,

 

Siri-Gian Kaur

www.SoulAnswer.com

[Guest guest]

Great post Siri-Gian Kaur!

[Guest guest]

regarding this response: Re: Negative entities as defined in KY? Posted by: "Scott" scott scott_soultender Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:42 pm (PST) Is this for real? Are you the same 'occultist' that's been plastering anxious messages and then gleeful resopsnes? It seems to me that your playing around in your mind and your not really serious about spiritual development. I am sorry but I wonder if your just messing with all of us here. By the way, I AM an occultist and yogi. To my Knowledge Yogi Bhajan did not mention anything about discarnate entities. I think though, he'd say if you were doing KY and not doing other things that could weaken your aura that you should be throughly protected. I think you want problems and enjoy

them.===============================================In response to this post:I am "for real," as far as I can tell, I am not "messing with" anyone, and I have never ever been flamed before. I did not expect it from a member of a Kundalini group. To tell me that I am not serious, that I am messing with your heads, that I want problems, that I enjoy them......Jeesh.I asked what is --to me--a very sincere question.I am so very grateful to all you wonderful Yogis and Yoginis who have given sincere and heartfelt answers to my previous posts. I feel blessed to have been able to connect with such wise and generous people. But, man, I am signing off this group. It feels terrible to be criticized by a stranger.Blessings to all....

[Guest guest]

I understand why you would sign off the group. That person who posted that

response to your sincere question was being very reactive and rude. He/she also

could have looked at the backlog of posts and seen that you were not the same

person who they were frustrated with. I'm sorry somebody treated you this way

on the group. It is disappointing. Normally people are much more graceful on

here.

Sat nam.

Guru Beant Kaur

 

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Kundalini Yoga Teacher

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for checking...regardless of the outcome...as it pertains to our

increased knowledge...Yogi

Bhajan playfully interacted and dealt with his own issues of " powers " ...and it

is an aspect of our

journey on the path.

 

As truth or an urban legend...Yogi Bhajan was visiting SF Bay for a white

tantric course. He always

had many visitor, some who wanted his advise and a few who wanted to " help " him.

There was a

person who had the power to see " auras " but had a certain view of what they were

suppose to

be...she was " advising " Yogiji...and in the middle of the conversation, she left

unexpectedly...people

asked YB what happened and he said that he had expanded/tranformed his " aura " so

she couldn't

see it and she freaked...he said that she would be fine..because she would walk

through the edge of

his " aura " in a few blocks as she walked away from the ashram...she would see

it and know what he

did...and likely learn.

 

Regardless, of how correct my telling; we know/experience our 18 foot auras but

I was nicely

surprised to read YB mention the 25 mile sensitivity of the radiant body.

 

Sat Ganesha

" participate, share, contribute "

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Scott " <scott wrote:

>

> Is this for real? Are you the same 'occultist' that's been plastering

> anxious messages and then gleeful resopsnes? It seems to me that your

> playing around in your mind and your not really serious about spiritual

> development. I am sorry but I wonder if your just messing with all of

> us here. By the way, I AM an occultist and yogi. To my Knowledge Yogi

> Bhajan did not mention anything about discarnate entities. I think

> though, he'd say if you were doing KY and not doing other things that

> could weaken your aura that you should be throughly protected. I think

> you want problems and enjoy them.

>

> Kundalini-Yoga , Abner Wilner <senatorabner@>

> wrote:

> >

> > HI everyone:

> > I am fairly new to the teachings of Yogi Bhajan, and am curious to

> know what has been said about negative entities attaching themselves to

> human bodies. I had an intense dream the other night pertaining to

> this topic, and YB was there!

> > Is there a 'meditation to dispel negative entities " ?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear One,

 

Please don't sign off this group due to just one who had lots of fears and frustrations! If all of us yogis and yoginis had hit the road when we got dissed, you better believe we would all be gone long, long ago! Instead, you can use every incident in your life to come closer and closer to consciously being Who you really are--your own unique God-Self! In fact, Yogi Bhajan was a master surgeon at smashing the more limiting areas of our consciousness!

 

We always likened living in an ashram to being in rock polishing machine. That is as we continue to rub on one another, we deal with ourselves to actually get polished by revising our habits, learning from each other, realizing the blessing of who we really are in our own search, forgiving ourselves and each other, healing and raising our vibrations through KY, and moving over to the zero point or shunia. And you can try heart breath ( www.SoulAnswer.com/heart_breath.html ) which is remarkably effective in clearing out and comforting one's own heart, as well as having a great effect on those who are providing the challenges!

 

You got my prayers and love on this great adventure of a journey, Dear!

 

Lots of Love,

Siri-Gian Kaur

[Guest guest]

I have been 'flamed' on here, so what, it's purifying, it's spirtual

flaming and think of all the nice people who didn't flame you.

 

Sat Avtar Kaur

 

 

> ===============================================

>

> In response to this post:

>

> I am " for real, " as far as I can tell, I am not " messing with "

anyone, and I have never ever been flamed before. I did not expect it

from a member of a Kundalini group. To tell me that I am not serious,

that I am messing with your heads, that I want problems, that I enjoy

them......Jeesh.

> I asked what is --to me--a very sincere question.

>

> I am so very grateful to all you wonderful Yogis and Yoginis who

have given sincere and heartfelt answers to my previous posts. I feel

blessed to have been able to connect with such wise and generous

people. But, man, I am signing off this group. It feels terrible to be

criticized by a stranger.

> Blessings to all....

>

[Guest guest]

Of course as yogis we're supposed to be connected to our higher

selves, but it's not that simple, having a sadhana or what not doesn't

make us perfect, but this is a good reminder of how we actually want

to come across. I don't blame the response that caused this poster to

want to leave, some people like to cruise around and use different

accounts. There are a couple of hate groups even that I am aware of

who have targeted KY.

 

That said, the poster shouldn't leave, this is the net: expect to find

controversy, also I would be disappointed if I took the time to say

good-bye and express my concern, and the response was, " I understand,

c ya " That's not very uplifting.

[Guest guest]

I am sorry that I upset you. I will quit the group instead.

 

Peace

Ek Ong Kar Singh

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , Abner Wilner

<senatorabner wrote:

>

> regarding this response:

>

> Re: Negative entities as defined in

KY? Posted by: " Scott "

scott

scott_soultender Sun Jan 25, 2009

12:42 pm (PST) Is this for real? Are you

the same 'occultist' that's been plastering

> anxious messages and then gleeful resopsnes? It seems to me that

your

> playing around in your mind and your not really serious about

spiritual

> development. I am sorry but I wonder if your just messing with all

of

> us here. By the way, I AM an occultist and yogi. To my Knowledge

Yogi

> Bhajan did not mention anything about discarnate entities. I think

> though, he'd say if you were doing KY and not doing other things

that

> could weaken your aura that you should be throughly protected. I

think

> you want problems and enjoy them.

> ===============================================

>

> In response to this post:

>

> I am " for real, " as far as I can tell, I am not " messing with "

anyone, and I have never ever been flamed before. I did not expect it

from a member of a Kundalini group. To tell me that I am not serious,

that I am messing with your heads, that I want problems, that I enjoy

them......Jeesh.

> I asked what is --to me--a very sincere question.

>

> I am so very grateful to all you wonderful Yogis and Yoginis who

have given sincere and heartfelt answers to my previous posts. I

feel blessed to have been able to connect with such wise and generous

people. But, man, I am signing off this group. It feels terrible to

be criticized by a stranger.

> Blessings to all....

>

[Guest guest]

Scott, you don't need to quit the group. A person outside of the

practice criticized, and it got a little defensive. So what, it

doesn't matter.

[Guest guest]

Gee, that will be helpful, now both of you will be gone and have

apparently learned nothing.

 

And, you will be depriving yourself of the wealth of information that

is available on this site and the wonderful people who give it away.

 

Sad

 

What happened to a simple apology? Why make all these assumptions and

take extreme actions, like quitting. Though, I suppose it is easier

to quit than to go on, you could do Kirtan Kriya for the embaressement

hurt, or whatever either of you are feeling. I do Kirtan Kriya every

day, it clears the perspective of everything, and lays a lot to rest.

Personally, a sense of humor goes a long way so try and see the funny

side of life.

 

Blessings,

 

Sat Avtar Kaur

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Scott " <scott wrote:

>

> I am sorry that I upset you. I will quit the group instead.

>

> Peace

> Ek Ong Kar Singh

[Guest guest]

What's Happening Cool People- One of the hardest things is to not be affected by negitive comments .. I try not to take them personally. I just see if I can learn from them and let them go. But I can not do this all the time and it takes a few days for me to back to a happy state. I try to forgive people. A knife is only sharpened by friction on the stone. If this makes any sense. ha ha God's Love markmysic--- On Thu, 1/29/09, Scott <scott wrote:

Scott <scott Re: Negative entities as defined in KY?Kundalini-Yoga Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 8:04 PM

 

 

I am sorry that I upset you. I will quit the group instead. PeaceEk Ong Kar SinghKundalini-Yoga, Abner Wilner <senatorabner@ ...> wrote:>> regarding this response:> > Re: Negative entities as defined in KY? Posted by: "Scott" scott scott_soultender Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:42 pm (PST) Is this for real? Are you the same 'occultist' that's been plastering > anxious messages and then gleeful resopsnes? It seems to me that your > playing around in your mind and your not really serious about spiritual > development. I am sorry but I wonder if your just messing with all of > us here. By the way, I AM an occultist and yogi. To my Knowledge Yogi > Bhajan did not mention anything about discarnate entities. I think >

though, he'd say if you were doing KY and not doing other things that > could weaken your aura that you should be throughly protected. I think > you want problems and enjoy them.> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========> > In response to this post:> > I am "for real," as far as I can tell, I am not "messing with" anyone, and I have never ever been flamed before. I did not expect it from a member of a Kundalini group. To tell me that I am not serious, that I am messing with your heads, that I want problems, that I enjoy them......Jeesh.> I asked what is --to me--a very sincere question.> > I am so very grateful to all you wonderful Yogis and Yoginis who have given sincere and heartfelt answers to my previous posts. I feel blessed to have been able to connect with such wise and generous people. But, man, I am signing off this group. It

feels terrible to be criticized by a stranger.> Blessings to all....>

[Guest guest]

 

lol, lol, lol

Siri Bandhu

Humble Moderator

Kundalini-Yoga , "Sat Avtar Kaur" <myralorey wrote:>> Gee, that will be helpful, now both of you will be gone and have> apparently learned nothing. > > And, you will be depriving yourself of the wealth of information that> is available on this site and the wonderful people who give it away.> > Sad> > What happened to a simple apology? Why make all these assumptions and> take extreme actions, like quitting. Though, I suppose it is easier> to quit than to go on, you could do Kirtan Kriya for the embaressement> hurt, or whatever either of you are feeling. I do Kirtan Kriya every> day, it clears the perspective of everything, and lays a lot to rest.> Personally, a sense of humor goes a long way so try and see the funny> side of life. > > Blessings,> > Sat Avtar Kaur> > > Kundalini-Yoga , "Scott" scott@ wrote:> >> > I am sorry that I upset you. I will quit the group instead. > > > > Peace> > Ek Ong Kar Singh>

[Guest guest]

No, no, Scott. Please don't quit the group! This isn't a dual, you know! This is learning to live together as yogis! It appears to me that you are forgiven, we feel your remorse. Now is the time to accept the unconditional love of all concerned, live from that wonderful place of Divine Guidance called "Neutral," and let humility and heart reign.

 

What a wonderful journey of interaction you two have led us on! And we appreciate both of you allowing us to participate for our own learning! We are entering the Aquarian Age now, so it is more important than ever that that we join together from the heart, "see God in all," and deepen our commitment to live as one blessed community!

 

All Love in Divine!

 

Siri-Gian Kaur

www.SoulAnswer.com