Guest guest Report post Posted May 19, 2008 Hello everyone, I am having a hard time using this chant and also chanting Sat Nam. In my finnish language it means satans land--please does anyone know/have an alternative chant? I understand that it does not mean this,but in my mother tongue(first language learned)it is really hard to try to focus on the true meaning-when the words have a duality for me... It really bothers me,can someone please help? Thx, Jaana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Hello Jaana, I've always found the best way to use this chant would be to focus on your breath. Inhalation focusing on 'Sat' and the exhalation on 'Nam'. You will find when you breathe that the sound the body makes on each inhale and exhale correspondes to Sat-Nam. Practice when you can as you breathe all the time. Eventually the effect will be that you automatically be chanting this when you breathe. Take your time when you practice and see how your bosy responds. From your email it seems that your body is discouraging you from learning a new skill. This will subside with regular practice. Blessings, Goldie Singh.  lap_car_0 <lap_car_0 Kundaliniyoga Monday, 19 May, 2008 8:51:50 PM Kundalini Yoga re:sa ta na ma Hello everyone, I am having a hard time using this chant and also chanting Sat Nam. In my finnish language it means satans land--please does anyone know/have an alternative chant? I understand that it does not mean this,but in my mother tongue(first language learned)it is really hard to try to focus on the true meaning-when the words have a duality for me... It really bothers me,can someone please help? Thx, Jaana ________ Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Hi Jaana, my Guru gives us Satnaam mantra to meditate upon, but he says not to get caught up with the word - as great as it is, it is still par tof the physical. Ultimately even it fades away and all that is left is Silence. HE said that Silence is higher than Satnaam. He also said that SAT means Truth, even adding NAAM to it , is just a description. So in meditation you will find that we go from various mantras or verses or prayers to various names of God, then we find ourselves drawn to SAT NAAM, then just to SAT, then just into SILENCE....the Pure Source. He said we did not have to recite just SAT or SAT NAAM, but to remember that it represented TRUTH. So we could repeat/chant on the word TRUTH as translated into our own language. Its just a way to focus us on the Source. And not meant to become a mental block. Its meant to uplift us to the Highest Consciousness - Truth Consciousness. SAT CHIT ANAND - means Remembering TRUTH one is in JOY. I read recently that JOY is our essence, wereas happiness and sadness are just emotions. But Eternal JOY is a state achieved when we merge into Truth Consciousness. dust of your feet HArjit sa ta na ma <Kundaliniyoga/message/27143;_ylc=X3oDMTJwbmwzYW5v\ BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2MDcyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk1NQRtc2dJZAMyNzE0MwRzZWMD\ ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjExMzczMjcy> Posted by: " lap_car_0 " lap_car_0 <lap_car_0?Subject=+Re%3Asa%20ta%20na%20ma> lap_car_0 <http://profiles./lap_car_0> Tue May 20, 2008 6:54 am (PDT) Hello everyone, I am having a hard time using this chant and also chanting Sat Nam. In my finnish language it means satans land--please does anyone know/have an alternative chant? I understand that it does not mean this,but in my mother tongue(first language learned)it is really hard to try to focus on the true meaning-when the words have a duality for me... It really bothers me,can someone please help? Thx, Jaana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2008 Sat Nam Jaana, Sa Ta Na Ma is the complete cycle. There is no going part of the way. Sa (birth) Ta (life) Na (death) without the possibility of Ma (rebirth or resurrection, or if you will, forgiveness) is indeed hell, or " Satan's land " , let there be no misteking this. To be born, and to live and die without some sense of that aspect of us that IS undying and Infinite (Akal) is a pretty severe way to live. Don't forget the Ma Blessings all around, Dharam Millis, MA lap_car_0 wrote: >Hello everyone, >I am having a hard time using this chant and also chanting Sat Nam. >In my finnish language it means satans land--please does anyone >know/have an alternative chant? I understand that it does not mean >this,but in my mother tongue(first language learned)it is really hard >to try to focus on the true meaning-when the words have a duality for >me... >It really bothers me,can someone please help? > >Thx, >Jaana > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Thanks for this. I was thinking about doing a 52-day (planetary cycle) sequence of SA TA NA MA. Kimberlie Kundaliniyoga , d pfalzer <d_pfalzer wrote: > > Just to give my experience with this -- and just to be > clear what I do (usually) is mentally chant sa ta na > ma. > > What seems to happen when I do so is that my conscious > mind gets distracted by the repetition of the > syllables. This allows unconscious material (emotions > and thoughts) to surface. When they surface I have > the option of using whatever wisdom I have to deal > with them. > > I value this practice as a ready route into core > material. Since for me the next steps are to 1) feel > whatever emotions arise thereby releasing them and > 2)search for my core beliefs behind my painful > feelings -- which often leads to transforming them > into more healthy beliefs, this is a reliable source > of freeing stale emotions and healthy, positive > growth. > > > --- expertofexpert <expertofexpert wrote: > > > Does sa ta na ma meditation erase good mental > > programing or only bad > > mental programing? > > > > > > > http://www.fallensword.com/?ref=1592837 > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2008 Hello Jaana, the word " satan " too is not a finnish word! It's from Hebrew language (and religion) and it means " adversary, one who withstands, resists " . In the Job book of Bible, Satan is a collaborator of God to prove the faith of man. In Sanskrit " sat " means " true " or " essence " , and this language is a very ancient one, probably much more than Hebrew. Sanskrit is most probably a mother-tongue, a root, from which all our languages originate: it is founded in our unconscious. You could try to change your feelings thinking to Sat Nam or Sa-Ta- Na-Ma as an " adversary " of error, falsehood and spiritual ignorance. Also consider that Sat is an ancient and resounding word, much more than Satan, and that in the early concept of Satan there is a cooperation with God to reveal the truth of man... Sat nam!!! All the best, Maurizio Kundaliniyoga , " lap_car_0 " <lap_car_0 wrote: > > Hello everyone, > I am having a hard time using this chant and also chanting Sat Nam. > In my finnish language it means satans land--please does anyone > know/have an alternative chant? I understand that it does not mean > this,but in my mother tongue(first language learned)it is really hard > to try to focus on the true meaning-when the words have a duality for > me... > It really bothers me,can someone please help? > > Thx, > Jaana > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2008 Kundaliniyoga , " Leslie D Trew " <ldtrew wrote: > > Hello. I have been doing the SaTaNaMa meditation with the hand mudra for > about 65 days. At first I saw amazing shifts. And it was wonderful. I am > looking towards completing 90 days. > > Now I am feeling agitated inside. Less calm and relaxed. Talking more and > interupting people. > > And now I resist doing this each morning, almost feeling that my body knows > that for right now, this is enough. But then again, I wonder if the real > essence is to work through this. > > Any thoughts? > > Les > maybe you could try 1-2 hours of normal anapana meditation, just watching the breath to balance out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2008 Thank-you for responding It is mostly-Sa Ta Na Ma part that bothers me. I understand the history and language of all this,and I try to overcome it,I need to find another chant/mantra that affects the same meridians in the mouth. Any ideas? Jaana Kundaliniyoga , " Maurizio " <karaneeva wrote: > > Hello Jaana, > > the word " satan " too is not a finnish word! It's from Hebrew > language (and religion) and it means " adversary, one who withstands, > resists " . In the Job book of Bible, Satan is a collaborator of God > to prove the faith of man. In Sanskrit " sat " means " true " > or " essence " , and this language is a very ancient one, probably much > more than Hebrew. Sanskrit is most probably a mother-tongue, a root, > from which all our languages originate: it is founded in our > unconscious. > You could try to change your feelings thinking to Sat Nam or Sa-Ta- > Na-Ma as an " adversary " of error, falsehood and spiritual ignorance. > Also consider that Sat is an ancient and resounding word, much more > than Satan, and that in the early concept of Satan there is a > cooperation with God to reveal the truth of man... > > Sat nam!!! All the best, > > Maurizio > > > > Kundaliniyoga , " lap_car_0 " <lap_car_0@> > wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > I am having a hard time using this chant and also chanting Sat Nam. > > In my finnish language it means satans land--please does anyone > > know/have an alternative chant? I understand that it does not mean > > this,but in my mother tongue(first language learned)it is really > hard > > to try to focus on the true meaning-when the words have a duality > for > > me... > > It really bothers me,can someone please help? > > > > Thx, > > Jaana > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 4, 2008 Satnaam ji if its other mantras than Truth you're looking for then you can try RA MA NA MA RAAM is a popular name of God used in Guru Granth Sahib ji . RAAM NAAM comes in gurbani alot. RAAM is the most used name of God in Gurbani. Kabir Ji chanted it passionatelyt, he wrote that when he says RAAM he doesn't mean the Saint-King Ram Chandr (son of Dasrath) who was and still is revered by Hindus, but God Kabeer, it does make a difference, how you chant the Lord's Name, 'Raam'. This is something to consider. Everyone uses the same word for the son of Dasrath and the Wondrous Lord. ||190|| Kabeer, use the word 'Raam', only to speak of the All-pervading Lord. You must make that distinction. One 'Raam' is pervading everywhere, while the other is contained only in himself. ||191|| Guru Granth Sahib p1374 dust of your feet Harjit Re: sa ta na ma <Kundaliniyoga/message/27193;_ylc=X3oDMTJwazM5Mjk5\ BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2MDcyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk1NQRtc2dJZAMyNzE5MwRzZWMD\ ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjEyNTEwMjc5> Posted by: " lap_car_0 " lap_car_0 <lap_car_0?Subject=+Re%3A%20sa%20ta%20na%20ma> lap_car_0 <http://profiles./lap_car_0> Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:31 am (PDT) Thank-you for responding It is mostly-Sa Ta Na Ma part that bothers me. I understand the history and language of all this,and I try to overcome it,I need to find another chant/mantra that affects the same meridians in the mouth. Any ideas? Jaana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2008 THANK YOU so MUCH EVERYBODY for all the responses,I feel alot better about chanting these words,and appreciate all the suggestions~!!I will be using them to see what works best for me,again EVERYONE,thank you SOOO much,many blessings,light and love to you all ~SAT NAM!~ Kundaliniyoga , " Meditate Upon The Truth " <satsatsat wrote: > > Satnaam ji > > if its other mantras than Truth you're looking for then you can try > > RA MA NA MA > > RAAM is a popular name of God used in Guru Granth Sahib ji . > > RAAM NAAM comes in gurbani alot. > > RAAM is the most used name of God in Gurbani. > > Kabir Ji chanted it passionatelyt, he wrote that when he says RAAM he > doesn't mean the Saint-King Ram Chandr (son of Dasrath) who was and still > is revered by Hindus, but God > > > Kabeer, it does make a difference, how you chant the Lord's Name, 'Raam'. > This is something to consider. > > Everyone uses the same word for the son of Dasrath and the Wondrous Lord. > ||190|| > > Kabeer, use the word 'Raam', only to speak of the All-pervading Lord. You > must make that distinction. > > One 'Raam' is pervading everywhere, while the other is contained only in > himself. ||191|| > > Guru Granth Sahib p1374 > > > dust of your feet > > Harjit > > Re: sa ta na ma > <Kundaliniyoga/message/27193;_ylc=X3oDMT JwazM5Mjk5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQ2MDcyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk1NQRt c2dJZAMyNzE5MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjEyNTEwMjc5> > Posted by: " lap_car_0 " lap_car_0 > <lap_car_0?Subject=+Re%3A%20sa%20ta%20na%20ma> lap_car_0 > <http://profiles./lap_car_0> Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:31 am (PDT) Thank-you > for responding > It is mostly-Sa Ta Na Ma part that bothers me. > I understand the history and language of all this,and I try to > overcome it,I need to find another chant/mantra that affects the same > meridians in the mouth. > Any ideas? > Jaana > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
