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Sat Nam,

During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong Kar-ah Sat-a Nam-ah

Siri Wah ah

Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little bit eerie and could sense the

presence of entities

around her. She didn't feel comfortable at all.

 

I personally have not encountered such an experience before,has anyone had a

similar

experience before? Or does any one of you knid souls out there has an

explanation to this?

When we chant, are we not strengthening our aura and creating a positive

vibrations and

protective light around us?

 

Love and Light!

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I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since

childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all

cast a

circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no

unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail.

Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey

into the unknown. Good luck.

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.....I have the same types of experiences.....I have also found them attached

to my pets when balancing them energetically. I imagine being in a tube of

white light and then I summon a tremendous amount of courage and send white

light directly to the entity (with love), and then send it into the light.

Its important not to be afraid as this only feeds them.

 

 

 

 

 

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Monday, 7 January 2008 9:59 a.m.

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Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga

meditation

 

 

 

I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since

childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all

cast a

circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no

unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail.

Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey

into the unknown. Good luck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello

 

I also feel the presence of entities while meditating, mostly when chanting,

but not only do I feel them but I hear them make noises, like steps, or like

trying to grasp something, like wanting to write something on my notepad. Is

this normal? I'm not afraid of them, I have always thought that they are

friendly, but I don't know what they are, energies or entities ?

 

Thanks

Neli

 

 

 

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During my experiences, I have found that I connect with archetypes at

the end of some kundalini yoga sets.

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , " pickiekay " <pickiekay wrote:

>

> I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since

> childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all

> cast a

> circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no

> unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without

fail.

> Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey

> into the unknown. Good luck.

>

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Some people say fear experienced in the presence of an entity means the

entity is malevolent. How best can we deal with this type of experience?

Sometimes they brush past me even at work. One day I saw what i thought was a

disembodied soul twice at work ( corner of the eye image flashing by) and

ignored it. 5 minutes later I had an accident at work. Never ignore or dismiss

what you percieve anywhere any time. Guys tell us how to deal with this.

 

 

Marie Hansen <cynos7 wrote: ....I have the same types of

experiences.....I have also found them attached

to my pets when balancing them energetically. I imagine being in a tube of

white light and then I summon a tremendous amount of courage and send white

light directly to the entity (with love), and then send it into the light.

Its important not to be afraid as this only feeds them.

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of pickiekay

Monday, 7 January 2008 9:59 a.m.

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga

meditation

 

I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since

childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all

cast a

circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no

unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail.

Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey

into the unknown. Good luck.

 

 

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SEND IT TO THE LIGHT! PROTECT, PROTECT, PROTECT YOURSELF!

 

 

 

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Wednesday, 9 January 2008 8:26 a.m.

Kundaliniyoga

RE: Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya

yoga meditation

 

 

 

Some people say fear experienced in the presence of an entity means the

entity is malevolent. How best can we deal with this type of experience?

Sometimes they brush past me even at work. One day I saw what i thought was

a disembodied soul twice at work ( corner of the eye image flashing by) and

ignored it. 5 minutes later I had an accident at work. Never ignore or

dismiss what you percieve anywhere any time. Guys tell us how to deal with

this.

 

 

Marie Hansen <cynos7 <cynos7%40xtra.co.nz> > wrote: ....I

have the same types of experiences.....I have also found them attached

to my pets when balancing them energetically. I imagine being in a tube of

white light and then I summon a tremendous amount of courage and send white

light directly to the entity (with love), and then send it into the light.

Its important not to be afraid as this only feeds them.

 

Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40>

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Monday, 7 January 2008 9:59 a.m.

Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40>

Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga

meditation

 

I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since

childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all

cast a

circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no

unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail.

Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey

into the unknown. Good luck.

 

 

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Dear Neli,

Kindly teach me to do Laya Yoga or guide me in this

regard.Where can I learn Laya Yoga, any website? Can

Any Guru teach me?

Regards,

kishore.

--- neli ufocontact <neli_nelis wrote:

 

> Hello

>

> I also feel the presence of entities while

> meditating, mostly when chanting, but not only do I

> feel them but I hear them make noises, like steps,

> or like trying to grasp something, like wanting to

> write something on my notepad. Is this normal? I'm

> not afraid of them, I have always thought that they

> are friendly, but I don't know what they are,

> energies or entities ?

>

> Thanks

> Neli

>

>

>

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The question should not be the attention to entities, whatever they may be,

but to whom do these entries appear? There has to be a subject first before

there is a recognizable object. The subject is that which denotes the sense

of realness and provides the light of seeing to allow any entity to be seen.

The subject is always of a high level prior to any experience. Whatever you

see consider the seer and hold singly to That. The result will be that the

seer is realized to be the ground of being, a field of consciousness in

which subject and object vanish and all ideas of separation from an object

vanish with it. The field, the individual unit of consciousness itself

eventually impacting the universal and dissolving, like the water contents

in a bottle floating in the ocean, lose the notion of separateness, when the

cork is pulled from the top.

 

 

 

Pieter

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated :) But I'm still unable to

answer my

student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field and

protect us,

so why did she feel entities close by..?

 

Sat Nam

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i'm just guessing, and was actually waiting curiously to hear the answer

somebody else might give you, but isn't it possible that entities came near to

her BECAUSE her auric field was strong. isn't a strong auric field also very

bright? i know virtually nothing about the details of the context and am not

by any means an expert but a novice, and i don't have any formal layayoga

practice, but i do have a lot of experience of chakras and energy and

kundalini/prana in my body and my own meditation practice. just joined

recently and am glad i did. looks like an interesting group.

cathie

 

mybabylet <mybabylet wrote:

Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated :) But I'm still

unable to answer my

student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field and

protect us,

so why did she feel entities close by..?

 

Sat Nam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sat Nam Cynos:

 

Just a thought:

 

It would seem to me that it might be dangerous to burn charcoal and beans in

view of the possible production of carbon monoxide especially, which is a

deadly gas as you know, with all the windows closed and no ventilation.

 

How long would this be done timewise and perhaps suggesting the person be out

of the area while the burning is going on and then have a plan to quickly

ventilate the room upon return.

 

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Sat nam

 

 

 

......in some way she is attracting them...thoughts or feelings, and mostly

lack of protection. They may be around her because they are draining her

energy for their own use (particularly when she is doing yoga). What I can

say is the more you put your attention on them the more they want to hang

around.

 

 

 

Clearing her space before doing yoga is also helpful. I don't know how to

do that using KY chants because I am still fairly new so someone else may

want to offer something on this one.

 

 

 

Also different incenses and essential oils work wonders. Or alternatively

close up the house and burn coffee beans on charcoal in every room and then

open the windows - you will notice the difference. The entities will be

gone and the air will look like it has been cleaned. Aura Soma

airconditioner - either white or serapis bey is also extremely good and you

will benefit personally from its use as well.

 

 

 

 

 

om: Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ] On

Behalf Of mybabylet

Thursday, 17 January 2008 2:44 a.m.

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga

meditation

 

 

 

Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated :) But I'm still unable to

answer my

student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field

and protect us,

so why did she feel entities close by..?

 

Sat Nam

 

 

 

 

 

 

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.........yes! I made a note in my post that they may be around to drain her

energy. She might be leaking energy to them or they are draining it from

her.

 

 

 

Another thought is that having pranic healing done would seal her

energetically.

 

 

 

There are a lot of reasons why they are there, and without seeing her or her

space personally to make a more accurate diagnosis have offered a few

suggestions.

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of Cathie

Thursday, 17 January 2008 6:44 a.m.

Kundaliniyoga

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya

yoga meditation

 

 

 

i'm just guessing, and was actually waiting curiously to hear the answer

somebody else might give you, but isn't it possible that entities came near

to her BECAUSE her auric field was strong. isn't a strong auric field also

very bright? i know virtually nothing about the details of the context and

am not by any means an expert but a novice, and i don't have any formal

layayoga practice, but i do have a lot of experience of chakras and energy

and kundalini/prana in my body and my own meditation practice. just joined

recently and am glad i did. looks like an interesting group.

cathie

 

mybabylet <mybabylet <mybabylet%40> > wrote:

Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated :) But I'm still unable to

answer my

student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field

and protect us,

so why did she feel entities close by..?

 

Sat Nam

 

 

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Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

 

There are entities around us always. Some are good some are bad. This

is a fact. In your situation I would guess it was a good entity. Some

reasons for this are- while meditating good entities come to gaurd you

and add to your experiences. They are drawn to your aura and the truly

powerful words you are speaking. Bad entities are scared of the bright

light of an aura meditating and cannot stand to be around it, So it is

very unlikely they were bad.Not impossible though.If you find yourself

in this situation get yourself an iron kara. The sacred braclet is a

sure-fire repelent of negative entities, but it must be iron. The

discomfort your student was feeling is natural. It is always wierd to

feel someone in the room and not be able to see them. Wear an iron kara

and meditate with conviction you will be fine. I suspect your student

is naturally more in tune with her Chakras.

 

Singh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- In Kundaliniyoga , " mybabylet " <mybabylet wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

> During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong Kar-ah

Sat-a Nam-ah Siri Wah ah

> Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little bit eerie and could

sense the presence of entities

> around her. She didn't feel comfortable at all.

>

> I personally have not encountered such an experience before,has

anyone had a similar

> experience before? Or does any one of you knid souls out there has an

explanation to this?

> When we chant, are we not strengthening our aura and creating a

positive vibrations and

> protective light around us?

>

> Love and Light!

>

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I appreciate this reply, and dont' know why I also assumed the entities might be

negative (though I've heard that version of things before too, that they are

attracted to those who have bright auras to feed off of them). Still, it's

important to remember that entities can be helping spirits, such as angels, or

guardians/ancestors. Also, I just remembered, there was a show on the discovery

channel I saw years ago, that says they were able to stimulate the feeling of

" Presence " (ie. the feeling that an " entity " or person was standing nearby),

simply by stimulating a certain lobe of the brain. So maybe the meditation is

stimulating that part of the brain. The next question would be, that the

researchers felt that stimulating that lobe of the brain caused the experience

of presence. But maybe the stimulation cuases more precisely the Awareness of

Presence> (i.e. awareness of entities that are there but are only sensed with

that lobe of the brain)? so one way or another,

maybe the entities are around her ALL the time, only she Senses them during

meditation? just a thought

 

jhundle2005 <jhundle2005 wrote: Waheguru ji ka Khalsa

Waheguru ji ki Fateh

 

There are entities around us always. Some are good some are bad. This

is a fact. In your situation I would guess it was a good entity. Some

reasons for this are- while meditating good entities come to gaurd you

and add to your experiences. They are drawn to your aura and the truly

powerful words you are speaking. Bad entities are scared of the bright

light of an aura meditating and cannot stand to be around it, So it is

very unlikely they were bad.Not impossible though.If you find yourself

in this situation get yourself an iron kara. The sacred braclet is a

sure-fire repelent of negative entities, but it must be iron. The

discomfort your student was feeling is natural. It is always wierd to

feel someone in the room and not be able to see them. Wear an iron kara

and meditate with conviction you will be fine. I suspect your student

is naturally more in tune with her Chakras.

 

Singh

 

 

- In Kundaliniyoga , " mybabylet " <mybabylet wrote:

>

> Sat Nam,

> During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong Kar-ah

Sat-a Nam-ah Siri Wah ah

> Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little bit eerie and could

sense the presence of entities

> around her. She didn't feel comfortable at all.

>

> I personally have not encountered such an experience before,has

anyone had a similar

> experience before? Or does any one of you knid souls out there has an

explanation to this?

> When we chant, are we not strengthening our aura and creating a

positive vibrations and

> protective light around us?

>

> Love and Light!

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I just want to share something that happened to me on the 16th 2.30 morning. An

individual spirit was trying to posess mt body as i was sleeping. In fact the

spirit managed to posess my lower body and it was trying to fully posess my

whole body. I managed to concerntrate my energy to my right hand and i was

holding its neck. The spirit was forcing it self towards my face and body and i

manage to confront it face to face. I warned the spirit to leave but it insist.

I managed to chant some buddism sutras and it was a decent struggle before the

spirit left. The next thing i know is i am awake and the posture of my hand is

exactly like i was holding the neck of the spirit. This is actually the third

time of myself confronting spirits. Is diffrent spirit.The next day i felt the

yin energy on my right palm. Is making my palm to sweet and shiver. I am trying

to force out the negative energies on my left palm and is getting better.

I think these entities are normal in fact o have sevral close encounters with

them. Just have faith, pure intentions and beliving in your mind as the

strongest.

 

 

Kundaliniyoga: goddessrebirth: Wed, 16 Jan

2008 19:53:21 -0800Re: Kundalini Yoga Feeling presence of entities

during laya yoga meditation

 

 

 

 

I appreciate this reply, and dont' know why I also assumed the entities might be

negative (though I've heard that version of things before too, that they are

attracted to those who have bright auras to feed off of them). Still, it's

important to remember that entities can be helping spirits, such as angels, or

guardians/ancestors. Also, I just remembered, there was a show on the discovery

channel I saw years ago, that says they were able to stimulate the feeling of

" Presence " (ie. the feeling that an " entity " or person was standing nearby),

simply by stimulating a certain lobe of the brain. So maybe the meditation is

stimulating that part of the brain. The next question would be, that the

researchers felt that stimulating that lobe of the brain caused the experience

of presence. But maybe the stimulation cuases more precisely the Awareness of

Presence> (i.e. awareness of entities that are there but are only sensed with

that lobe of the brain)? so one way or another,maybe the entities are around her

ALL the time, only she Senses them during meditation? just a thoughtjhundle2005

<jhundle2005 wrote: Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki FatehThere

are entities around us always. Some are good some are bad. This is a fact. In

your situation I would guess it was a good entity. Some reasons for this are-

while meditating good entities come to gaurd you and add to your experiences.

They are drawn to your aura and the truly powerful words you are speaking. Bad

entities are scared of the bright light of an aura meditating and cannot stand

to be around it, So it is very unlikely they were bad.Not impossible though.If

you find yourself in this situation get yourself an iron kara. The sacred

braclet is a sure-fire repelent of negative entities, but it must be iron. The

discomfort your student was feeling is natural. It is always wierd to feel

someone in the room and not be able to see them. Wear an iron kara and meditate

with conviction you will be fine. I suspect your student is naturally more in

tune with her Chakras.Singh- In Kundaliniyoga , " mybabylet "

<mybabylet wrote:>> Sat Nam,> During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong

Kar-ah Sat-a Nam-ah Siri Wah ah > Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little

bit eerie and could sense the presence of entities > around her. She didn't feel

comfortable at all.> > I personally have not encountered such an experience

before,has anyone had a similar > experience before? Or does any one of you knid

souls out there has an explanation to this? > When we chant, are we not

strengthening our aura and creating a positive vibrations and > protective light

around us?> > Love and Light!>Looking for last

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Hi there, when I did mine I burnt them for about 10 minutes and went outside

for the fresh air. Believe me its powerful stuff and you get pretty much

straight away that you need to leave the room.

 

I also took out all the pets - cats, dogs and fish - its important to

remember the goldfish as well.

 

 

 

When I went back in I opened all the windows and gave the house a good

airing. I was surprised that the smell doesn't hang around after a good

breeze gets in. The result was amazing. The air looked so much cleaner and

things in the house calmed right down straight away.

 

 

 

I put a small round piece of charcoal in a brass container and let that get

going first and then threw smashed up coffee beans on top - important not to

grind. It burns like incense on charcoal.

 

 

 

I'm not sure if it produces carbon monoxide.

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of Sendag

Thursday, 17 January 2008 1:18 p.m.

Kundaliniyoga

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya

yoga meditation

 

 

 

Sat Nam Cynos:

 

Just a thought:

 

It would seem to me that it might be dangerous to burn charcoal and beans in

 

view of the possible production of carbon monoxide especially, which is a

deadly gas as you know, with all the windows closed and no ventilation.

 

How long would this be done timewise and perhaps suggesting the person be

out

of the area while the burning is going on and then have a plan to quickly

ventilate the room upon return.

 

Heartfully

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Sat Nam,

 

Shunga,

 

I know someone who had some hair raising experience with some " darkies " They

went to the local occult shop and purchased some Rue it is an herb. She made

three pouches form a real cheap dish rags she got from the dollar store. She put

one at the entrance of her bedroom door and the others are on the walls around

her bed. So far she has not had any problems with these " darkies " . Knock on

wood.

 

There is a book by GuruNam called Lifting the Veil Practical Kabbalah with

Kundalini yoga. In chapter three is called Bring in the Light. There is all

kinds of instructions for protecting yourself. I use Gnostic mantras they seem

to work very well.

Peace Love & All Light,

Guru Sadhana Seva

 

 

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Thank you Guru for the advice. My faith is strong. My intentions are pure and i

am full of love. That shall be my greatest strength.

 

kundaliniyoga

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Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:38:56 -0800

Kundalini Yoga RE:Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga

meditation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sat Nam,

 

 

 

Shunga,

 

 

 

I know someone who had some hair raising experience with some " darkies " They

went to the local occult shop and purchased some Rue it is an herb. She made

three pouches form a real cheap dish rags she got from the dollar store. She put

one at the entrance of her bedroom door and the others are on the walls around

her bed. So far she has not had any problems with these " darkies " . Knock on

wood.

 

 

 

There is a book by GuruNam called Lifting the Veil Practical Kabbalah with

Kundalini yoga. In chapter three is called Bring in the Light. There is all

kinds of instructions for protecting yourself. I use Gnostic mantras they seem

to work very well.

 

Peace Love & All Light,

 

Guru Sadhana Seva

 

 

 

SWADJ- " MAY YOU FLOURISH AND THRIVE "

 

PEACE PROFOUND

 

 

 

 

 

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