[Vaideekam] Visit to Sabarimalai

[Guest guest]

Good Morning Satish,

 

Visiting Sabarimalai with 41 day penance is good from a religious as well as

personal standpoint.

 

Yes, you can visit Sabarimalai with out 41 day penance, however you will not or

shall not go thru " Pathinettam Padi " , instead you should go thru the steps in

the rear entrance or side entrance of the temple.

 

You can have a good darshan of Lord Ayyappa.

 

Ensure you are aware of the Temple timings.

 

Having said all that I would also like to emphasize that the experience of

visiting Sabarimalai after 41 days penance is beyond any kind of explanation.

 

Have a nice journey:)

 

Regards,

Prasanna K

[Guest guest]

Sri:

Dear members,

I do not underrstand how the moderator has allowed this mail to

be circulated when he is not circulating mails from me reg TV programs for

SRIVAISHNAVAS

HE CALLS HIMSELF A PRAPANNA[ that he should not even think of other

deities like IYYAPPA]------MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDHAR[refer THIRUMAZHISAI

AAZHWARS PASURAM]

dasan,

N.PADMANABAN

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Satish Bharathan

Though a Srivaishnava, I visit the Holy Shrine every year. I consider that Lord

Ayyappa as personification of Sri Sudarshanar.

If it comes to your mind that you wish to take a trip to the Holy Shrine, please

do so without any hesitation.

You may be on tour (I also travel a lot) but make sure that the " penace " for 41

days prior to visit is kept whether you wear malai or not. In other words, keep

yourself clean - mentally and physically; desist from female company; take food

once a day and fruits only in the nights; as far as possible avoid things which

give comfort to the body such as soft bed/pillows; take bath in cold water only;

as far as possible avoid taking foods which are considered " rajas " ; keep your

surroundings clean and do not mix with any bad company; go to a Ayyappa temple

daily (if your tour is to a place where there is no Ayyappa temple, then go to

any temple); do the dhyanam daily 10 or 24 or 108 times ( " Om Bhootanathaya

Vidmahe, Bhava Puthrayadhimahi, Tanno Sastha Prachodayath " ); start seeing Lord

Ayyappa in every human being and you will go very near to Him; if possible and

you can have " maladhranam " also it is excellant and in your tours you can wear

black dress (not necessarily dhoti). Lord Ayyappa is omnipotent and what He

expects is a Antha-shuddi.

Before you go the Holy Shrine invite Ayyappa Bhakthas for doing a pooja in your

house followed by serving them with food. While on the way to the Holy Shrine,

do not forget to visit Srivaishana Divya Kshetram: TIRUVALLAVAZH ( Tiruvalla )

This Divya kshetram is at Tiruvalla town near Kottayam in Kerala. The moolavar

is Kolappiran also called Sri Vallabhan in standing posture. The Thayar is

Selvathirukozhundu Nachiyar. The Theertham is Kandakarna Theertham and the

Vimanam Chathurangakola Vimanam. There is a shrine for Viswaksenar. According to

the sthala purana Shankara Mangalathammai used to observe Ekadasi vratham and

feed one Brahmachari on the Dwadasi day. Tolakarana, a demon was creating

hurdles to her vratham. Responding to her prayers the Lord killed the demon and

came for the feast in the form of a Brahmachari, and later gave darsan to her

with Lakshmi adorning His chest and gained the name Tiruvazhmarban. The place

Tiruvalla originates from the presiding deity Vallabha. Alwar pasurangal :

Nammaazhwar - 3205-15 and Tirumangai Azhwar - 1808 -17, 2674 (118).

 

Also try to visit Srivaishana Divya Kshetram: TIRUKKODITTAANAM. This Divya

kshetram is 3 Kms from Chengannacheri near Kottyam in Kerala. The moolavar is

Athputha Narayana and the Thayar Karpagavalli. The Theertham is Bhoomi Theertham

and the Vimanam Punyakoti Vimanam.

 

Please share with us your divine experiences with all of us.

 

Best regards

 

B.K.Srinivasa Ragavan

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.K.Prasanna,

Just a correction in your mail. One can climb up the Holy Padinettu Padi even

without 41 days of penace. You can climb if you have the Maladharanam, carry

Irumudi and wear black dhoti. Climbing the Padi is the pinnacle of the Vratam

and one should not miss it.

Regards

B.K.Srinivasa Ragavan

 

-

Prasanna Karimanickam

vaideekam

Friday, October 19, 2007 8:47 PM

Re: [Vaideekam] Visit to Sabarimalai

 

 

Good Morning Satish,

 

Visiting Sabarimalai with 41 day penance is good from a religious as well as

personal standpoint.

 

Yes, you can visit Sabarimalai with out 41 day penance, however you will not

or shall not go thru " Pathinettam Padi " , instead you should go thru the steps in

the rear entrance or side entrance of the temple.

 

You can have a good darshan of Lord Ayyappa.

 

Ensure you are aware of the Temple timings.

 

Having said all that I would also like to emphasize that the experience of

visiting Sabarimalai after 41 days penance is beyond any kind of explanation.

 

Have a nice journey:)

 

Regards,

Prasanna K

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri.Narasimhan Padmanabhan,

Only Sriman Narayana can grant Moksha and all other deities can grant only other

material comforts. If you visit any other temple other than Sriman Narayana as

the presiding diety you as a Srivaishnava should not ask for any boon from the

diety as they can give only materialistic boons. Only Perumal is the " Jyotinam

Jyotihi " and other dieties draw power from Him. On the other hand if you see

Sriman Narayana even when you stand before any other diety then you will see Him

only in everywhere. If you feel that going to worship Sri Ayyappa is not for a

Srivaishavite, please remember when we are sick, we go to the specialist who can

cure us of his area; we do not go to a Cardiolist to cure common cold or cough.

I am of personal opinion that sometimes we need to take solutions on certain

trivial but persisting ailments by going to dieties like Sri Ayyappa, it will

not be an act against prapatti. Keeping our body in a fit condition is also

only to serve Sriman Narayana and with no other intention.

This discussion is important and please correct me if I am wrong in my

thinkings.

Best regards

Dasan,

B.K.Srinivasa Ragavan

-

narasimhan padmanaban

vaideekam

Friday, October 19, 2007 9:10 PM

Re: [Vaideekam] Visit to Sabarimalai

 

 

Sri:

Dear members,

I do not underrstand how the moderator has allowed this mail to be circulated

when he is not circulating mails from me reg TV programs for SRIVAISHNAVAS

HE CALLS HIMSELF A PRAPANNA[ that he should not even think of other deities

like IYYAPPA]------MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDHAR[refer THIRUMAZHISAI AAZHWARS

PASURAM]

dasan,

N.PADMANABAN

 

***

1. This group is not only for Prappannas or Sri Vasihnavas.

2. He has not asked me directly about it, he wanted some information,

and I had not added any information under that message.

3. Sharing the personal knowledge between members is different from using the

group resources to make advertisement to a TV Program or to a website.

Moderator

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sri RAmajayam

SrimathE GopAla DEsikAya Namaha

> I am of personal opinion

> that sometimes we need to take solutions on certain

> trivial but persisting ailments by going to dieties

> like Sri Ayyappa, it will not be an act against

> prapatti.

 

Please desist from personal opinions, and provide

qualified answers. Prapatthi, Prapanna, Mumukshu are

used so casually, for which AchAryas have detailed &

clear answers.

 

So please seek the feet of an AchArya of

JnAna-AnushtAna-VairAghyA (like DinAchArya scholars),

and seek clarifications, especially Sri Vaishnavites

and aspiring Srivaishnavites can benefit by seeking an

AchArya of an Avichinna AchArya Parampara (unbroken

guru parampara from Sriya Pathi to current AchArya).

 

AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan,

 

Sudarsana DAsOsmi

 

 

 

--- BKSRagavan <bks wrote:

 

> Dear Shri.Narasimhan Padmanabhan,

> Only Sriman Narayana can grant Moksha and all other

> deities can grant only other material comforts. If

> you visit any other temple other than Sriman

> Narayana as the presiding diety you as a

> Srivaishnava should not ask for any boon from the

> diety as they can give only materialistic boons.

> Only Perumal is the " Jyotinam Jyotihi " and other

> dieties draw power from Him. On the other hand if

> you see Sriman Narayana even when you stand before

> any other diety then you will see Him only in

> everywhere. If you feel that going to worship Sri

> Ayyappa is not for a Srivaishavite, please remember

> when we are sick, we go to the specialist who can

> cure us of his area; we do not go to a Cardiolist to

> cure common cold or cough. I am of personal opinion

> that sometimes we need to take solutions on certain

> trivial but persisting ailments by going to dieties

> like Sri Ayyappa, it will not be an act against

> prapatti. Keeping our body in a fit condition is

> also only to serve Sriman Narayana and with no other

> intention.

> This discussion is important and please correct me

> if I am wrong in my thinkings.

> Best regards

> Dasan,

> B.K.Srinivasa Ragavan

> -

> narasimhan padmanaban

> vaideekam

> Friday, October 19, 2007 9:10 PM

> Re: [Vaideekam] Visit to Sabarimalai

>

>

> Sri:

> Dear members,

> I do not underrstand how the moderator has allowed

> this mail to be circulated when he is not

> circulating mails from me reg TV programs for

> SRIVAISHNAVAS

> HE CALLS HIMSELF A PRAPANNA[ that he should not

> even think of other deities like

> IYYAPPA]------MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDHAR[refer

> THIRUMAZHISAI AAZHWARS PASURAM]

> dasan,

> N.PADMANABAN

>

> ***

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> Vasihnavas.

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> message.

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> advertisement to a TV Program or to a website.

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[Guest guest]

Adiyen Namaskarangal,

 

I do not agree with Srinivasa Ragavan swami , A person who has complete faith in

Sriman Narayana need not go to other deities for temporary material desires. A

true vaishnavite is a person who surrenders himself to our Lord Sriman Narayana

and he will no longer seek favours from other dieties, he understands and

believesthat the Lord will take care of him and will always seek t he refuge of

the lords holy feet.

 

I beg your pardon , if I have hurt you , but going to tother deites for small

favours is in turn a depiction of non trust in Sriman Narayana.

 

Adiyen

Sridhar.S

 

 

 

Sudarsan Parthasarathy.S. <sudarsanp

BKSRagavan <bks; vaideekam

Monday, 22 October, 2007 3:37:53 PM

Re: [Vaideekam] Visit to Sabarimalai

 

Sri RAmajayam

SrimathE GopAla DEsikAya Namaha

> I am of personal opinion

> that sometimes we need to take solutions on certain

> trivial but persisting ailments by going to dieties

> like Sri Ayyappa, it will not be an act against

> prapatti.

 

Please desist from personal opinions, and provide

qualified answers. Prapatthi, Prapanna, Mumukshu are

used so casually, for which AchAryas have detailed &

clear answers.

 

So please seek the feet of an AchArya of

JnAna-AnushtAna- VairAghyA (like DinAchArya scholars),

and seek clarifications, especially Sri Vaishnavites

and aspiring Srivaishnavites can benefit by seeking an

AchArya of an Avichinna AchArya Parampara (unbroken

guru parampara from Sriya Pathi to current AchArya).

 

AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan,

 

Sudarsana DAsOsmi

 

--- BKSRagavan <bks (AT) ptlonline (DOT) com> wrote:

 

> Dear Shri.Narasimhan Padmanabhan,

> Only Sriman Narayana can grant Moksha and all other

> deities can grant only other material comforts. If

> you visit any other temple other than Sriman

> Narayana as the presiding diety you as a

> Srivaishnava should not ask for any boon from the

> diety as they can give only materialistic boons.

> Only Perumal is the " Jyotinam Jyotihi " and other

> dieties draw power from Him. On the other hand if

> you see Sriman Narayana even when you stand before

> any other diety then you will see Him only in

> everywhere. If you feel that going to worship Sri

> Ayyappa is not for a Srivaishavite, please remember

> when we are sick, we go to the specialist who can

> cure us of his area; we do not go to a Cardiolist to

> cure common cold or cough. I am of personal opinion

> that sometimes we need to take solutions on certain

> trivial but persisting ailments by going to dieties

> like Sri Ayyappa, it will not be an act against

> prapatti. Keeping our body in a fit condition is

> also only to serve Sriman Narayana and with no other

> intention.

> This discussion is important and please correct me

> if I am wrong in my thinkings.

> Best regards

> Dasan,

> B.K.Srinivasa Ragavan

> -

> narasimhan padmanaban

> vaideekam@grou ps.com

> Friday, October 19, 2007 9:10 PM

> Re: [Vaideekam] Visit to Sabarimalai

>

>

> Sri:

> Dear members,

> I do not underrstand how the moderator has allowed

> this mail to be circulated when he is not

> circulating mails from me reg TV programs for

> SRIVAISHNAVAS

> HE CALLS HIMSELF A PRAPANNA[ that he should not

> even think of other deities like

> IYYAPPA]---- --MARANDHUM PURANTHOZHA MAANDHAR[refer

> THIRUMAZHISAI AAZHWARS PASURAM]

> dasan,

> N.PADMANABAN

>

> ***

> 1. This group is not only for Prappannas or Sri

> Vasihnavas.

> 2. He has not asked me directly about it, he

> wanted some information,

> and I had not added any information under that

> message.

> 3. Sharing the personal knowledge between members

> is different from using the group resources to make

> advertisement to a TV Program or to a website.

> Moderator

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> Messages are not moderated. The reply of interested

> member will reach the sender only.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sri:

Dear Sir,

WHO TOLD YOU that ayyappa has become a household name

throughout the WORLD. IS HE KNOWN IN RUSSIA

dont blabber something and you are only trying to force your

conclusions on others

AS i have written in the past ONE MUST APPROACH ONES

Aacharyan[guru] OR THE LEARNED scholars in their AACHARYA PARAMPARAI and get

their doubts clarified,

instead of coming to ones own conclusions[WHICH WILL BE WRONG MOST OF THE

TIMES]

dasan,

N.PADMANABAN

 

s Rajagopalan <s11081946 wrote:

Swamin,

 

Whether one likes or dislikes, a large chunk of Hindu population worship

Ganapathy, Hanuman and Durgai(in many incarnations). It is common knowledge

whether you find any other temple or not, temples for the three will find place

in every habitation. Also the village Deity(Kula Deivam) is worshipped. There is

no doubt that Vaishnava scripts describe Shriman Narayana as the Supreme Lord.

But equally other faiths also have their versions about their Gods. Infact a

small fraction of the Hindu community also visit Darghas and Churches. Ayyappa

has become an household name throughout the world. His shrine is visited by many

faiths and beliefs. It is one's belief and circumstances. What ever be the form,

let us worship our preferred deity in those forms. When He resides in THOON and

THURUMBU why not in other forms? E groups are not a few persons personal

properties, though Moderator / owner starts them and moderate . They are

discussion forums. So all sorts of ideas will

crop in. We can not stop freedom of expressions.

 

S Rajagopalan

 

 

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