Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rishabh, I agree with what you have mentioned in your mail, but did you ever tell me that you were not liking that??If Rafal happens to be your guru, did you ever protest??If you talk of Guru-Shishya Parampara, then do u know its a sin to hear anything against guru, like someone insulting your guru, & in that case you either stop that discussion there protest or leave. Now is this your love for your guru???? Moreover, when I said those words, then you replied, " I think you are right " . Lemme copy & paste our discussion so that it becomes convenient for everyone to follow. rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:55 PM): ok do u believe in kaal sarp yoga and kaal amrit yoga which shri k n rao doesnt believe in but sjc does rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:58 PM): ? (3/28/2008 9:29:27 PM): I dont believe in any yoga unless it got some proof as per Jyotish Classics.. (3/28/2008 9:29:36 PM): so i dont blieve KAY or KSY rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:41 PM): which obviously ksy doesnt have rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:44 PM): right (3/28/2008 9:29:46 PM): true.. (3/28/2008 9:30:22 PM): if u want to practise Astrology in true spirit...read BPHS & pray to Shree Vishnu.. rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:00 PM): hmmm ok (3/28/2008 9:31:01 PM): if u want to cook astrology, d way " SJC " does....follow their mails...n u will be a grr8 chef in cooking yogas, arudhas n curses.... (3/28/2008 9:31:08 PM): this is my honest opinion.. (3/28/2008 9:31:11 PM): rest upto u.. (3/28/2008 9:31:12 PM): bye rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:28 PM): i think u r right... Is this OK now for all???? Rishabh, dont play with us. You wanted prediction which was clear from your chat, but i declined to do so. Is that the reason for this subject of " Sad state of affairs " ??? Thank you, http://gauravastro.150m.com vedic astrology , " Rishabh " <rishabhjindal wrote: > > i am not even close to being an astrologer by any sense of > imagination but it is sickening to see the proceedings driven by ego > and an effort to show down the other person which is totally against > the spirit of this ancient science. i expressed my views on the > people i think who are responsible for that. i didnt like it when > gaurav sir had nothing but mockery for shri rafal ji and he termed > him as a blind follower of shri visti larsen during my chat with > him. i felt it as a deep insult of the guru-shishya parampara > without which astrology wont exist for so many centuries. and also > his unreasonable dismissal of valuable concepts like curses, arudha > etc. he finds sjc not as a help but an obstacle for progress of > astrology which i find totally unacceptable to believe. > that is all i have to say with full honesty and integrity. > Rishabh > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear prashant ji > > > > > > > > Thanxs ,i hate only the sin not sinner > > > > u hav gr8 potential and use it .I can see some spark of it always > in u > > ,so do more studies .Do more meditation . > > > > > > > > be blessed > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > vedic astrology , Prashant <praspandey@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > No hard feelings for you. > > > > > > I am sorry if i did anything bad to you knowingly or unknowingly > as > > you are elder to me. > > > > > > Regs, > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Dear PP, Namaskar! Once there used to be a fox and it was jealous of the ruling tiger. The fox try to imitate a tiger, so it went to blacksmith and asked for a metallic-hood with coatings of yellow & black, horns, teeth and other accesseries. The blacksmith is a old wise guru and said that cost of making of metallic-cover-hood and others is very high and there is a cheaper & quicker alternative solution, but its painful. The fox was furious, jealous, lustful and consumed by greed and blinded by ill-directed passion. The fox replied, that what ever the pain, cost, effort - he should look like tiger very quickly. Then the blacksmith asked the fox to close the eyes for few seconds. The blacksmith heated an iron-rod and burnt SEVERAL long stretchy-scratch marks on the skin of fox. The fox looked like tiger- but died of burns, pains and skin-infection. I'm not comparing you with FOX, just dont become one... God Bless you! Venkat. ****** On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Prashant Pandey <praspandey wrote: > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > were taking interest. > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > in this forum But. > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > your angle. > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > I never said i am saint. > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>, > " Prashant Pandey " > <praspandey wrote: > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > is badhaksthana. > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > house. > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>, > Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > place > > of > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > behaviour. > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > remedies > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > This > > will > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > writer > > then > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > maintained. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%<starsuponme%25> > 40wp.pl>> > > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > in > > the line > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > are laughing > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > adding few > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > out > > from > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com <rafal%2540rohinaa.com>> > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > senior. > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > tell > > about > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > not > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > <http://gauravastro.150m.com>> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > stooping to > > > > > such > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > from the > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Dear PP, Namaskar! You have Shani and Rahu in 3H, which is not good... Check where your Mars located and also shani drishti on 8th Bhava. Are you having any of the following symptoms:- (A) Piles, unusual gas passing with loud rythemic sounds, Loss of testicles or damage of sexual organs, Change or removal of private parts. (B) Lunatic behaviour, Mental Disorder, Frequent fights, Nervous breakdown, Suicidal thoughts © Rapist attitude/sexual assault, Unusual sex instincts, impotency, lack of libido Venkat ****** vedic astrology , Prashant <praspandey wrote: > > I am not so bad as you think. > > You know Arudha very well. > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > BAN ME. > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey wrote: > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > were taking interest. > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > in this forum But. > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > your angle. > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > I never said i am saint. > > vedic astrology , " Prashant Pandey " > <praspandey@> wrote: > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > is badhaksthana. > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > house. > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > place > > of > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > behaviour. > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > remedies > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > This > > will > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > writer > > then > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > maintained. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Namasthe, Please don't make any bad comments about PVR. If you don't know him kindly go through his books first and then to such forum to assess him. prakash Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Yes Yes!!! See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your answer. I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also accept it. Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. Anyway leave this. My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two faces always. Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! Regs, Prashant Pandey Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept of apauruseya of the Veda. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > I am not so bad as you think. > > You know Arudha very well. > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > BAN ME. > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in > <praspandey%40.co.in>> wrote: > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > were taking interest. > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > in this forum But. > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > your angle. > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > I never said i am saint. > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, " Prashant Pandey " > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > is badhaksthana. > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > house. > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > place > > of > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > behaviour. > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > remedies > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > This > > will > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > writer > > then > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > maintained. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > 40wp.pl>> > > wrote: > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > in > > the line > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > are laughing > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > adding few > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > out > > from > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > <http://rohinaa.com>> / email: > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > senior. > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > tell > > about > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > not > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > stooping to > > > > > such > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > from the > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more > on > > Best of > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor food, weak speech abilities? 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the innocent souls. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > Yes Yes!!! > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your answer. > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also accept it. > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > Anyway leave this. > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > faces always. > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > BAN ME. > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > were taking interest. > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > in this forum But. > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > your angle. > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > house. > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > place > > > of > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > behaviour. > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > remedies > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > This > > > will > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > writer > > > then > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > maintained. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > <http://rohinaa.com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > 40wp.pl>> > > > wrote: > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > in > > > the line > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > are laughing > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > adding few > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > out > > > from > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > tell > > > about > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > not > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > stooping to > > > > > > such > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > from the > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar Its Pluto and not Uranus who lost the category of being 'planet'. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Rafal Gendarz napisa?(a): > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is > not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. > > If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this > from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor > food, weak speech abilities? > > 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 > from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. > > 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing > Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. > > Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these > groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the > innocent souls. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: > rafal <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > Yes Yes!!! > > > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your > answer. > > > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also > accept it. > > > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > > > Anyway leave this. > > > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > > faces always. > > > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> / > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > > > BAN ME. > > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > > were taking interest. > > > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > > in this forum But. > > > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > > your angle. > > > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > > house. > > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > > place > > > > of > > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > > behaviour. > > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > > remedies > > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > > This > > > > will > > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > > writer > > > > then > > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > > maintained. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > > 40wp.pl>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > > in > > > > the line > > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > > are laughing > > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > > adding few > > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > > out > > > > from > > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>>> / > email: > > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > > tell > > > > about > > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > > not > > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > <http://gauravastro.150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > > stooping to > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > > from the > > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Yes Yes!!! I am superficial and you are beneficial.Good!!!! Please you continue with your knowledge, Nobody can help you.I will also send you big big vedanga for studying very free(I will not say come to my PAYPAL).Please tell me your address. Really nobody can save you as Sa is with badhkesh.And badhkesh is with three other planets in fifth house. Little brother with little eyes and also with little mind,nobody can help you. Please you continue with big big studies. Oh seventh doesnt show how you take on your enemies than it is evident how much knowledge you have.I dont want to be Guru of any as i have no time. Please ask to your Guru Ji's Guru Ji what he has written in his articles,if i am saying wrong than he is also wrong.You are already against parampara's knowledge. Please dont say i steal anything. Ma shows tendency of stealing and Ma in badhkesh with Ke than it shows super tendency of being thief.And Ma is also strong (as a Big thief) in D-9 by being of Ar.So who is big thief.You steal everything and say that it is of my parampara. Brother i can not help you,please leave me. I can not give my knowledge because you are gulping it. Leave me alone brother,i dont have time to impart my knowledge to you. Regs, Prashant Pandey Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor food, weak speech abilities? 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the innocent souls. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > Yes Yes!!! > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your answer. > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also accept it. > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > Anyway leave this. > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > faces always. > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > BAN ME. > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > were taking interest. > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > in this forum But. > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > your angle. > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > house. > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > place > > > of > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > behaviour. > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > remedies > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > This > > > will > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > writer > > > then > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > maintained. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > <http://rohinaa.com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > 40wp.pl>> > > > wrote: > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > in > > > the line > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > are laughing > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > adding few > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > out > > > from > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > tell > > > about > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > not > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > stooping to > > > > > > such > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > from the > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 alright gaurav sir listen up now that was the first time ever i was talking to you. i didnt like what i was hearing but i because of the level of respect for you decided to keep quiet. but not only this conversation after that everytime we had any chats u had nothing but cheap things to say for sjc and that is why i removed u from my list. and i am an sjc and its all the more pitiable that u r catching me on my words and my ' i think u r right' was for worshipping shri vishnu. and moreover its my right to listen what people think but its only when i realised that u were motivated just by your jealousy and not wisdom that i decided to remove you from my list and found it a sin to ask you for clarification on any astrological concept. because u used to ask me the source of information and in case it was from sjc you used to start laughing. and moreover u r too drowned in jealously for sjc esp rafal ji to see the truth. u may use any means to justify yourself. what do i have to do by saying anything against u or prashant. it took me some time to realise that your views were totally biased and utterly crap for sjc and finally all the respect i had for you was gone. i could have started criticizing you from day one but i thought u had some worth and i thought that it was wise to listen you through but i think i made a big mistake. u know what the truth is, i know it and god knows it. bye vedic astrology , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Rishabh, > I agree with what you have mentioned in your mail, but did you ever > tell me that you were not liking that??If Rafal happens to be your > guru, did you ever protest??If you talk of Guru-Shishya Parampara, > then do u know its a sin to hear anything against guru, like someone > insulting your guru, & in that case you either stop that discussion > there protest or leave. Now is this your love for your guru???? > Moreover, when I said those words, then you replied, " I think you > are right " . > Lemme copy & paste our discussion so that it becomes convenient for > everyone to follow. > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:55 PM): ok do u believe in kaal sarp > yoga and kaal amrit yoga which shri k n rao doesnt believe in but > sjc does > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:58 PM): ? > (3/28/2008 9:29:27 PM): I dont believe in any yoga > unless it got some proof as per Jyotish Classics.. > (3/28/2008 9:29:36 PM): so i dont blieve KAY or KSY > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:41 PM): which obviously ksy doesnt > have > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:44 PM): right > (3/28/2008 9:29:46 PM): true.. > (3/28/2008 9:30:22 PM): if u want to practise Astrology > in true spirit...read BPHS & pray to Shree Vishnu.. > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:00 PM): hmmm ok > (3/28/2008 9:31:01 PM): if u want to cook astrology, d > way " SJC " does....follow their mails...n u will be a grr8 chef in > cooking yogas, arudhas n curses.... > (3/28/2008 9:31:08 PM): this is my honest opinion.. > (3/28/2008 9:31:11 PM): rest upto u.. > (3/28/2008 9:31:12 PM): bye > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:28 PM): i think u r right... > > Is this OK now for all???? > Rishabh, dont play with us. You wanted prediction which was clear > from your chat, but i declined to do so. Is that the reason for this > subject of " Sad state of affairs " ??? > Thank you, > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > vedic astrology , " Rishabh " > <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > i am not even close to being an astrologer by any sense of > > imagination but it is sickening to see the proceedings driven by > ego > > and an effort to show down the other person which is totally > against > > the spirit of this ancient science. i expressed my views on the > > people i think who are responsible for that. i didnt like it when > > gaurav sir had nothing but mockery for shri rafal ji and he termed > > him as a blind follower of shri visti larsen during my chat with > > him. i felt it as a deep insult of the guru-shishya parampara > > without which astrology wont exist for so many centuries. and also > > his unreasonable dismissal of valuable concepts like curses, > arudha > > etc. he finds sjc not as a help but an obstacle for progress of > > astrology which i find totally unacceptable to believe. > > that is all i have to say with full honesty and integrity. > > Rishabh > > > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear prashant ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanxs ,i hate only the sin not sinner > > > > > > u hav gr8 potential and use it .I can see some spark of it > always > > in u > > > ,so do more studies .Do more meditation . > > > > > > > > > > > > be blessed > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Prashant <praspandey@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > No hard feelings for you. > > > > > > > > I am sorry if i did anything bad to you knowingly or > unknowingly > > as > > > you are elder to me. > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 gaurav sir and about the ksy. i did agree that it finds no mention in any jyotish classic but i didnt mean that i dont believe in it. because for me proof is what the gurus say. infact i have been doing kamalaatmika mantra for the same given by shri visti larsen. dont question my love for anyone when u urself have no capacity to love anyone who thinks differently from you. and its because of my love that i decided to mention your name on this thread, otherwise i wouldnt have bothered. bye vedic astrology , " Rishabh " <rishabhjindal wrote: > > alright gaurav sir listen up now > that was the first time ever i was talking to you. i didnt like what > i was hearing but i because of the level of respect for you decided > to keep quiet. but not only this conversation after that everytime > we had any chats u had nothing but cheap things to say for sjc and > that is why i removed u from my list. and i am an sjc and its > all the more pitiable that u r catching me on my words and my ' i > think u r right' was for worshipping shri vishnu. and moreover its > my right to listen what people think but its only when i realised > that u were motivated just by your jealousy and not wisdom that i > decided to remove you from my list and found it a sin to ask you for > clarification on any astrological concept. because u used to ask me > the source of information and in case it was from sjc you used to > start laughing. > and moreover u r too drowned in jealously for sjc esp rafal ji to > see the truth. u may use any means to justify yourself. what do i > have to do by saying anything against u or prashant. it took me some > time to realise that your views were totally biased and utterly crap > for sjc and finally all the respect i had for you was gone. i could > have started criticizing you from day one but i thought u had some > worth and i thought that it was wise to listen you through but i > think i made a big mistake. u know what the truth is, i know it and > god knows it. > bye > > > vedic astrology , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Rishabh, > > I agree with what you have mentioned in your mail, but did you > ever > > tell me that you were not liking that??If Rafal happens to be your > > guru, did you ever protest??If you talk of Guru-Shishya Parampara, > > then do u know its a sin to hear anything against guru, like > someone > > insulting your guru, & in that case you either stop that > discussion > > there protest or leave. Now is this your love for your guru???? > > Moreover, when I said those words, then you replied, " I think you > > are right " . > > Lemme copy & paste our discussion so that it becomes convenient > for > > everyone to follow. > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:55 PM): ok do u believe in kaal sarp > > yoga and kaal amrit yoga which shri k n rao doesnt believe in but > > sjc does > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:58 PM): ? > > (3/28/2008 9:29:27 PM): I dont believe in any yoga > > unless it got some proof as per Jyotish Classics.. > > (3/28/2008 9:29:36 PM): so i dont blieve KAY or KSY > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:41 PM): which obviously ksy doesnt > > have > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:44 PM): right > > (3/28/2008 9:29:46 PM): true.. > > (3/28/2008 9:30:22 PM): if u want to practise > Astrology > > in true spirit...read BPHS & pray to Shree Vishnu.. > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:00 PM): hmmm ok > > (3/28/2008 9:31:01 PM): if u want to cook astrology, > d > > way " SJC " does....follow their mails...n u will be a grr8 chef in > > cooking yogas, arudhas n curses.... > > (3/28/2008 9:31:08 PM): this is my honest opinion.. > > (3/28/2008 9:31:11 PM): rest upto u.. > > (3/28/2008 9:31:12 PM): bye > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:28 PM): i think u r right... > > > > Is this OK now for all???? > > Rishabh, dont play with us. You wanted prediction which was clear > > from your chat, but i declined to do so. Is that the reason for > this > > subject of " Sad state of affairs " ??? > > Thank you, > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rishabh " > > <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > > > i am not even close to being an astrologer by any sense of > > > imagination but it is sickening to see the proceedings driven by > > ego > > > and an effort to show down the other person which is totally > > against > > > the spirit of this ancient science. i expressed my views on the > > > people i think who are responsible for that. i didnt like it > when > > > gaurav sir had nothing but mockery for shri rafal ji and he > termed > > > him as a blind follower of shri visti larsen during my chat with > > > him. i felt it as a deep insult of the guru-shishya parampara > > > without which astrology wont exist for so many centuries. and > also > > > his unreasonable dismissal of valuable concepts like curses, > > arudha > > > etc. he finds sjc not as a help but an obstacle for progress of > > > astrology which i find totally unacceptable to believe. > > > that is all i have to say with full honesty and integrity. > > > Rishabh > > > > > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear prashant ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanxs ,i hate only the sin not sinner > > > > > > > > u hav gr8 potential and use it .I can see some spark of it > > always > > > in u > > > > ,so do more studies .Do more meditation . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be blessed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Prashant <praspandey@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > No hard feelings for you. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry if i did anything bad to you knowingly or > > unknowingly > > > as > > > > you are elder to me. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rishabh, I dont need to justify for what I am doing & what I am not doing. People who have been benefitted after getting reading from me, knows it well. So whether you respect me or not, or find the condition pitiable or not...all upto the way u look at it. I believe in Upanishads i.e. Vedantas...Truth will prevail, not the false...Satyameva Jayate naanritam!! Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com vedic astrology , " Rishabh " <rishabhjindal wrote: > > alright gaurav sir listen up now > that was the first time ever i was talking to you. i didnt like what > i was hearing but i because of the level of respect for you decided > to keep quiet. but not only this conversation after that everytime > we had any chats u had nothing but cheap things to say for sjc and > that is why i removed u from my list. and i am an sjc and its > all the more pitiable that u r catching me on my words and my ' i > think u r right' was for worshipping shri vishnu. and moreover its > my right to listen what people think but its only when i realised > that u were motivated just by your jealousy and not wisdom that i > decided to remove you from my list and found it a sin to ask you for > clarification on any astrological concept. because u used to ask me > the source of information and in case it was from sjc you used to > start laughing. > and moreover u r too drowned in jealously for sjc esp rafal ji to > see the truth. u may use any means to justify yourself. what do i > have to do by saying anything against u or prashant. it took me some > time to realise that your views were totally biased and utterly crap > for sjc and finally all the respect i had for you was gone. i could > have started criticizing you from day one but i thought u had some > worth and i thought that it was wise to listen you through but i > think i made a big mistake. u know what the truth is, i know it and > god knows it. > bye > > > vedic astrology , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Rishabh, > > I agree with what you have mentioned in your mail, but did you > ever > > tell me that you were not liking that??If Rafal happens to be your > > guru, did you ever protest??If you talk of Guru-Shishya Parampara, > > then do u know its a sin to hear anything against guru, like > someone > > insulting your guru, & in that case you either stop that > discussion > > there protest or leave. Now is this your love for your guru???? > > Moreover, when I said those words, then you replied, " I think you > > are right " . > > Lemme copy & paste our discussion so that it becomes convenient > for > > everyone to follow. > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:55 PM): ok do u believe in kaal sarp > > yoga and kaal amrit yoga which shri k n rao doesnt believe in but > > sjc does > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:58 PM): ? > > (3/28/2008 9:29:27 PM): I dont believe in any yoga > > unless it got some proof as per Jyotish Classics.. > > (3/28/2008 9:29:36 PM): so i dont blieve KAY or KSY > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:41 PM): which obviously ksy doesnt > > have > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:44 PM): right > > (3/28/2008 9:29:46 PM): true.. > > (3/28/2008 9:30:22 PM): if u want to practise > Astrology > > in true spirit...read BPHS & pray to Shree Vishnu.. > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:00 PM): hmmm ok > > (3/28/2008 9:31:01 PM): if u want to cook astrology, > d > > way " SJC " does....follow their mails...n u will be a grr8 chef in > > cooking yogas, arudhas n curses.... > > (3/28/2008 9:31:08 PM): this is my honest opinion.. > > (3/28/2008 9:31:11 PM): rest upto u.. > > (3/28/2008 9:31:12 PM): bye > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:28 PM): i think u r right... > > > > Is this OK now for all???? > > Rishabh, dont play with us. You wanted prediction which was clear > > from your chat, but i declined to do so. Is that the reason for > this > > subject of " Sad state of affairs " ??? > > Thank you, > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rishabh " > > <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > > > i am not even close to being an astrologer by any sense of > > > imagination but it is sickening to see the proceedings driven by > > ego > > > and an effort to show down the other person which is totally > > against > > > the spirit of this ancient science. i expressed my views on the > > > people i think who are responsible for that. i didnt like it > when > > > gaurav sir had nothing but mockery for shri rafal ji and he > termed > > > him as a blind follower of shri visti larsen during my chat with > > > him. i felt it as a deep insult of the guru-shishya parampara > > > without which astrology wont exist for so many centuries. and > also > > > his unreasonable dismissal of valuable concepts like curses, > > arudha > > > etc. he finds sjc not as a help but an obstacle for progress of > > > astrology which i find totally unacceptable to believe. > > > that is all i have to say with full honesty and integrity. > > > Rishabh > > > > > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear prashant ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanxs ,i hate only the sin not sinner > > > > > > > > u hav gr8 potential and use it .I can see some spark of it > > always > > > in u > > > > ,so do more studies .Do more meditation . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be blessed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Prashant <praspandey@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > No hard feelings for you. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry if i did anything bad to you knowingly or > > unknowingly > > > as > > > > you are elder to me. > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I am furnishing a detail,i think every person would have that detail. Mark Twain:- 30'th Nov 1835 04:45 Florida (USA) After seeing this horoscope nobody can claim it is not right birth details as it is clearly showing birth detail of a great writer. Now see second house lord Ma and Ke both in watery sign and also Su is there,but he had not stammering problem.Ke is afflicted by Ma. I know from where you have studied the concept of stammering,So please say him to down it from source. I have furnished this detail only because it is showing clearly all your concepts which you had applied in stammering prediction. Otherwise i have 20 birth details to say strongly that concept is totally wrong. I am not here to show anybody down but i am forced to do that.I dont want to ruin any established business.But.... Regs, Prashant Pandey Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor food, weak speech abilities? 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the innocent souls. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > Yes Yes!!! > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your answer. > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also accept it. > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > Anyway leave this. > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > faces always. > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > BAN ME. > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > were taking interest. > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > in this forum But. > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > your angle. > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > house. > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > place > > > of > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > behaviour. > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > remedies > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > This > > > will > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > writer > > > then > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > maintained. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > <http://rohinaa.com>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > 40wp.pl>> > > > wrote: > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > in > > > the line > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > are laughing > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > adding few > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > out > > > from > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > tell > > > about > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > not > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > stooping to > > > > > > such > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > from the > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar Let me first clear up your errors in analysis: 1. Badhaka analysis errors: a) When planets are in badhaksthan then badhakesh plays another role in the chart. b) When badhakesh is with benefics or strong planets then it acts favourably for the native. My Surya has full neechabhanga from all three i) mangal ii) shani iii) shukra besides being in Navamsa Lagna providing Raja yoga with dharmakarmadhipati, vry and shiva yoga in fifth from Lg and 2H from AL. Seventh doesnt show the enemies. Its very clear from standart texts. There are two bhavas for Yuddha and Para(a)krama. Seventh is for public relations as its Kendra - beneficial. Its sixth (ari bhava) which shows the : EXTERNAL MEANING: a) tactict of the native - therefore all three : Ra, Sa, Ma shows different methods of fight. b) ammount of enemies - therefore Saravali and Prasna Marga says that Ju in sixth makes one free from enmity. c) tactics of enemy d) servants, pets, hard work INTERNAL MEANING (when the lord is yuti - Prashna Marga). e) shad ripus When talking about seventh house it is maraka to enemy but it has totally different method of approach. When talking about seventh from AL its again something completely different. Stealing is from Ma? I thought Gulika with Ke in Karakaamsa makes one thief. (Jataka Tattwa 3.104/105 and BPHS) If its tendency then Me must yuti - Jatak Tattva 3.110. Buts its very general. Regarding stealing : Planets in Karakaamsa cant go against the atma. The atma tattva is shown by its position in D9. Its in ninth from Navamsa Lagna as Guru yuti - which shows DHARMA as the cause of birth. Now the Mangal will act for the same purpose as its yuti the same yoga. First master the basics before judging anyone. Now why I condemn you as a stealer of knowledge: a) YOUR STEALING: from your mails its EVIDENT that you are using techniques which are taught by the SJC Parampara. And at the same time you are criticizing the same directly or indirectly. I dont want your comments about that - its evident for me and others. That is the aspect of stealing. And non-stealing principle makes one quallified to be at least sudra what to say about brahmana (Garuda Purana 26.28). Its also one of the mahapapa - Shiva Purana Umasamhita 5.23 MY 'STEALING': Now about my so-called stealing. The quality which differs us is LOYALITY. If I was taught some part of vidya by someone's mercy then I am loyal to this person and even if I dont agree or have some temperamental clashes I still respect that person - this teacher will be respected till I die. Thats the culture of trasmitting the Vedic Knowledge. So if I am in Parampara this is my Parampara and I'm proud of being a member of the one - never allowing myself to put the black spot on it. -------------------------- Your Philosophical fog: A) Dont worry about me and my studies. How can you dare to propose me gifts when I just wrote that I dont trust your altruism? B) Lets leave the topic who is knowledgable and who is not. That will be judged by experts in the field. Let us focus on culture as this forum enables ignorant ones to be here, but not the rude and uncultured ones. ------------------------- And dont make funny jokes that you dont have to impart knowledge about Jyotisha. All your readings are strictly based on SJC Teachings with some additional wild general statements taken from here and there. ------------------------ I will leave you - a) just be honest b) dont cheat the innocent public c) dont treat bad and sarcastic other innocent people who want to learn something. Thats my last mail for you. Hopefully next administrator will be less busy. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > Yes Yes!!! > > I am superficial and you are beneficial.Good!!!! > > Please you continue with your knowledge, Nobody can help you.I will > also send you big big vedanga for studying very free(I will not say > come to my PAYPAL).Please tell me your address. > > Really nobody can save you as Sa is with badhkesh.And badhkesh is with > three other planets in fifth house. > > Little brother with little eyes and also with little mind,nobody can > help you. > Please you continue with big big studies. > > Oh seventh doesnt show how you take on your enemies than it is evident > how much knowledge you have.I dont want to be Guru of any as i have no > time. > > Please ask to your Guru Ji's Guru Ji what he has written in his > articles,if i am saying wrong than he is also wrong.You are already > against parampara's knowledge. > > Please dont say i steal anything. > > Ma shows tendency of stealing and Ma in badhkesh with Ke than it shows > super tendency of being thief.And Ma is also strong > (as a Big thief) in D-9 by being of Ar.So who is big thief.You steal > everything and say that it is of my parampara. > > Brother i can not help you,please leave me. > > I can not give my knowledge because you are gulping it. > > Leave me alone brother,i dont have time to impart my knowledge to you. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is > not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. > > If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this > from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor > food, weak speech abilities? > > 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 > from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. > > 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing > Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. > > Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these > groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the > innocent souls. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: > rafal <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > Yes Yes!!! > > > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your > answer. > > > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also > accept it. > > > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > > > Anyway leave this. > > > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > > faces always. > > > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> / > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > > > BAN ME. > > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > > were taking interest. > > > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > > in this forum But. > > > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > > your angle. > > > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > > house. > > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > > place > > > > of > > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > > behaviour. > > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > > remedies > > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > > This > > > > will > > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > > writer > > > > then > > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > > maintained. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > > 40wp.pl>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > > in > > > > the line > > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > > are laughing > > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > > adding few > > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > > out > > > > from > > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>>> / > email: > > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > > tell > > > > about > > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > > not > > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > <http://gauravastro.150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > > stooping to > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > > from the > > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar 1. I was taught this principle from Sanjay Rath. 2. Dont trust the dates before 1980. They are often rectified by western astrologers. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > I am furnishing a detail,i think every person would have that detail. > > Mark Twain:- > 30'th Nov 1835 > 04:45 > Florida (USA) > > After seeing this horoscope nobody can claim it is not right birth > details as it is clearly showing birth detail of a great writer. > > Now see second house lord Ma and Ke both in watery sign and also Su is > there,but he had not stammering problem.Ke is afflicted by Ma. > > I know from where you have studied the concept of stammering,So please > say him to down it from source. > > I have furnished this detail only because it is showing clearly all > your concepts which you had applied in stammering prediction. > > Otherwise i have 20 birth details to say strongly that concept is > totally wrong. > > I am not here to show anybody down but i am forced to do that.I dont > want to ruin any established business.But. ... > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is > not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. > > If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this > from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor > food, weak speech abilities? > > 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 > from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. > > 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing > Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. > > Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these > groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the > innocent souls. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > Yes Yes!!! > > > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your > answer. > > > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also > accept it. > > > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > > > Anyway leave this. > > > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > > faces always. > > > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme %40wp.pl> > wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>> > / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > > > BAN ME. > > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > > were taking interest. > > > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > > in this forum But. > > > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > > your angle. > > > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > > house. > > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > > place > > > > of > > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > > behaviour. > > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > > remedies > > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > > This > > > > will > > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > > writer > > > > then > > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > > maintained. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > > 40wp.pl>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > > in > > > > the line > > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > > are laughing > > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > > adding few > > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > > out > > > > from > > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>>>> > / email: > > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > > tell > > > > about > > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > > not > > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > > stooping to > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > > from the > > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 " Lets leave the topic who is knowledgable and who is not. That will be judged by experts in the field. " Well said. Why you need experts,you always think you are expert. This thing i want to realise you.Please leave arrogance and boasting. In the name of parampara you have downed many persons and allegations have been gone to SJC. I know Sanjay rath Ji's hard work,nobody can do that much to Astrology.He has left job and went to astrology really great devotion to subject astrology. And also PVR Ji has done alot to astrology and still doing.But your way of talking with other persons always downed the parampara.And many persons have left the parampara because of bad way of talking. Regs, Prashant Pandey Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar Let me first clear up your errors in analysis: 1. Badhaka analysis errors: a) When planets are in badhaksthan then badhakesh plays another role in the chart. b) When badhakesh is with benefics or strong planets then it acts favourably for the native. My Surya has full neechabhanga from all three i) mangal ii) shani iii) shukra besides being in Navamsa Lagna providing Raja yoga with dharmakarmadhipati, vry and shiva yoga in fifth from Lg and 2H from AL. Seventh doesnt show the enemies. Its very clear from standart texts. There are two bhavas for Yuddha and Para(a)krama. Seventh is for public relations as its Kendra - beneficial. Its sixth (ari bhava) which shows the : EXTERNAL MEANING: a) tactict of the native - therefore all three : Ra, Sa, Ma shows different methods of fight. b) ammount of enemies - therefore Saravali and Prasna Marga says that Ju in sixth makes one free from enmity. c) tactics of enemy d) servants, pets, hard work INTERNAL MEANING (when the lord is yuti - Prashna Marga). e) shad ripus When talking about seventh house it is maraka to enemy but it has totally different method of approach. When talking about seventh from AL its again something completely different. Stealing is from Ma? I thought Gulika with Ke in Karakaamsa makes one thief. (Jataka Tattwa 3.104/105 and BPHS) If its tendency then Me must yuti - Jatak Tattva 3.110. Buts its very general. Regarding stealing : Planets in Karakaamsa cant go against the atma. The atma tattva is shown by its position in D9. Its in ninth from Navamsa Lagna as Guru yuti - which shows DHARMA as the cause of birth. Now the Mangal will act for the same purpose as its yuti the same yoga. First master the basics before judging anyone. Now why I condemn you as a stealer of knowledge: a) YOUR STEALING: from your mails its EVIDENT that you are using techniques which are taught by the SJC Parampara. And at the same time you are criticizing the same directly or indirectly. I dont want your comments about that - its evident for me and others. That is the aspect of stealing. And non-stealing principle makes one quallified to be at least sudra what to say about brahmana (Garuda Purana 26.28). Its also one of the mahapapa - Shiva Purana Umasamhita 5.23 MY 'STEALING': Now about my so-called stealing. The quality which differs us is LOYALITY. If I was taught some part of vidya by someone's mercy then I am loyal to this person and even if I dont agree or have some temperamental clashes I still respect that person - this teacher will be respected till I die. Thats the culture of trasmitting the Vedic Knowledge. So if I am in Parampara this is my Parampara and I'm proud of being a member of the one - never allowing myself to put the black spot on it. -------------------------- Your Philosophical fog: A) Dont worry about me and my studies. How can you dare to propose me gifts when I just wrote that I dont trust your altruism? B) Lets leave the topic who is knowledgable and who is not. That will be judged by experts in the field. Let us focus on culture as this forum enables ignorant ones to be here, but not the rude and uncultured ones. ------------------------- And dont make funny jokes that you dont have to impart knowledge about Jyotisha. All your readings are strictly based on SJC Teachings with some additional wild general statements taken from here and there. ------------------------ I will leave you - a) just be honest b) dont cheat the innocent public c) dont treat bad and sarcastic other innocent people who want to learn something. Thats my last mail for you. Hopefully next administrator will be less busy. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > Yes Yes!!! > > I am superficial and you are beneficial.Good!!!! > > Please you continue with your knowledge, Nobody can help you.I will > also send you big big vedanga for studying very free(I will not say > come to my PAYPAL).Please tell me your address. > > Really nobody can save you as Sa is with badhkesh.And badhkesh is with > three other planets in fifth house. > > Little brother with little eyes and also with little mind,nobody can > help you. > Please you continue with big big studies. > > Oh seventh doesnt show how you take on your enemies than it is evident > how much knowledge you have.I dont want to be Guru of any as i have no > time. > > Please ask to your Guru Ji's Guru Ji what he has written in his > articles,if i am saying wrong than he is also wrong.You are already > against parampara's knowledge. > > Please dont say i steal anything. > > Ma shows tendency of stealing and Ma in badhkesh with Ke than it shows > super tendency of being thief.And Ma is also strong > (as a Big thief) in D-9 by being of Ar.So who is big thief.You steal > everything and say that it is of my parampara. > > Brother i can not help you,please leave me. > > I can not give my knowledge because you are gulping it. > > Leave me alone brother,i dont have time to impart my knowledge to you. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is > not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. > > If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this > from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor > food, weak speech abilities? > > 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 > from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. > > 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing > Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. > > Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these > groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the > innocent souls. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: > rafal <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > Yes Yes!!! > > > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your > answer. > > > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also > accept it. > > > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > > > Anyway leave this. > > > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > > faces always. > > > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> / > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > > > BAN ME. > > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > > were taking interest. > > > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > > in this forum But. > > > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > > your angle. > > > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > > house. > > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > > place > > > > of > > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > > behaviour. > > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > > remedies > > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > > This > > > > will > > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > > writer > > > > then > > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > > maintained. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > > 40wp.pl>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > > in > > > > the line > > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > > are laughing > > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > > adding few > > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > > out > > > > from > > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>>> / > email: > > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > > tell > > > > about > > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > > not > > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > <http://gauravastro.150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > > stooping to > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > > from the > > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 If you dont consider this details is right. Ok than i will search the details here from this group's archieve. Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar 1. I was taught this principle from Sanjay Rath. 2. Dont trust the dates before 1980. They are often rectified by western astrologers. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant napisa?(a): > > I am furnishing a detail,i think every person would have that detail. > > Mark Twain:- > 30'th Nov 1835 > 04:45 > Florida (USA) > > After seeing this horoscope nobody can claim it is not right birth > details as it is clearly showing birth detail of a great writer. > > Now see second house lord Ma and Ke both in watery sign and also Su is > there,but he had not stammering problem.Ke is afflicted by Ma. > > I know from where you have studied the concept of stammering,So please > say him to down it from source. > > I have furnished this detail only because it is showing clearly all > your concepts which you had applied in stammering prediction. > > Otherwise i have 20 birth details to say strongly that concept is > totally wrong. > > I am not here to show anybody down but i am forced to do that.I dont > want to ruin any established business.But. ... > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> wrote: > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > 1. I have seen it now. Its wrong. Moon doesnt show speech. Gandhanta is > not enough for stammering, especially not if in own/mooltikrona. > > If 2L affliction is enough for stammering then how you will differ this > from family problem (jatak tattva), money problems, weak eyes, poor > food, weak speech abilities? > > 2. I think you didnt focus on my last mail. You dont have Sa and Ra in 7 > from AL. Seventh doesnt show enemies. > > 3. I dont care if you take me as an enemy or if you take a non-existing > Uranus (last scientific discovery) as an important life event indicator. > > Just want to make clear that your knowledge and care on these > groups is very superficial and should be revealed to protect the > innocent souls. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > com <rafal%40rohinaa.com> > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > Yes Yes!!! > > > > See also my posting on JR on stammering problem parallely to your > answer. > > > > I think you have come to know about my analysis.You should also > accept it. > > > > Check also one more thing in your Arudha concept when Sa+Ra comes at > > 7'th to AL what happens to enemies and how world perceive that natives > > enemies,if somebody takes that native as enemy. > > > > Anyway leave this. > > > > My little little brother i dont take anybody as my enemy.Even at this > > time i am not taking you as enemy, this is my nature. > > > > Still i will say keep rising!!! My best wishes with you. > > > > Keep helping all needy with your knowledge. > > > > But please dont consider my good nature as my weakness.I have two > > faces always. > > > > Best of Luck for you and your nice parampara!!! > > > > Regs, > > Prashant Pandey > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme %40wp.pl> > wrote: > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > No, its you who turned the face against me when I refused your idea > > about helping me in readings Until then you were so nice and sweet. > > > > You have stolen some knowledge about arudha, but this is not complete, > > therefore your estimation about Guru is incorrect. The arudha > > jumps to other houses based on chart. In your case Guru is not in sixth > > from AL - at least not in Shani Mahadasa. Accept it. > > > > The Sa+Ra made you against Parampara. This will be repeated few times in > > Sa MD. I have few charts and all of them gave up the tradition, > > some of them even leave the Jyotish Vedanga, some even the whole concept > > of apauruseya of the Veda. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>> > / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > I am not so bad as you think. > > > > > > You know Arudha very well. > > > > > > See who is sitting at 6'th place from Arudha lagna in my chart.It is > > > Ju.I am not so much bad as you have projected from first day. > > > > > > I was SJC's follower but you made me against me SJC. > > > > > > Nobody is criminal from birth but persons make him. > > > > > > You hurt me from first day,thats all. > > > > > > If moderator wants to ban me, i am ready. > > > > > > BAN ME. > > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ . co.in > > > <praspandey% 40.co. in>> wrote: > > > where were you when Pascal Ji was being humiliated.Ok i am bad,i > > > have bad natal chart.But what's about Pascal Ji. > > > > > > He is from Germany and you are from Poland just near to Germany.But > > > that time you didnt make any comment.Just were seeing messages.And > > > were taking interest. > > > > > > And you supported some bad mails yesterday and also that day related > > > to Pascal Ji affairs.SJC has lost so learned member like Pascal > > > because of you.That person was trying to take breath of relief here > > > in this forum But. > > > > > > When Venkat had written so good mail to Pascal ji,it was good from > > > your angle. > > > > > > Open your eyes my brother,if you are real saint. > > > > > > I never said i am saint. > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Prashant Pandey " > > > <praspandey@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I also do repect to many members. > > > > > > > > You also take remedies for Ma and Ke placed in seventh house which > > > > is badhaksthana. > > > > > > > > You also take remedy of Me, Mo and Ma which are in MKS. > > > > > > > > Dont tell me about my natal planets.You see your arrogannt > > > > behavior,how you talk to other members. > > > > > > > > Have you remeberd the mail which was related to Saturn in 4'th > > > house. > > > > how you were talking with other members,see that. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > I will make comment against every rude invador on this clean > > > place > > > > of > > > > > jyotish-yajna. There is no allowance to that kind of tamasic > > > > behaviour. > > > > > If you have problem with your Shani and Rahu in third then do > > > > remedies > > > > > instead of disrespecting people who want to learn something. > > > This > > > > will > > > > > not be forgiven due to the motive which is strictly personal and > > > > > egoistic. If you cant be silent observer or at least honest > > > writer > > > > then > > > > > you must be banned. Simple as that. The culture must be > > > maintained. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>>> / email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Than go and talk with PVR Ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he thinks i should be banned than no issue dear. > > > > > > > > > > > > But dont make comments against me.I will never keep quite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme % > > > 40wp.pl>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > > > > > Dear Prashant , Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > You ve made jokes about curses and arudhas which is strictly > > > in > > > > the line > > > > > > of PVRji, therefore altough you say he is your authority, you > > > > are laughing > > > > > > at the parampara in which He exists. That is not honest and > > > > adding few > > > > > > other rude mails it makes you fully quallified to be thrown > > > out > > > > from > > > > > > this place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > > > > > www: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>>>> > / email: > > > > rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) > > > > > > com <rafal% 40rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rishab elaborate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This forum is of Sri PVR Ji OK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And i have complete respect for him.He is my university > > > senior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know to whom i should do repect and to whom i dont.Dont > > > tell > > > > about > > > > > > > sad affairs or anything here, if you dont know anything and > > > not > > > > > > > practising astrology actively than dont make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > > > > > > > <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > > > > > Can you please elaborate your comments?? > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > <http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, " Rishabh " > > > > > > <rishabhjindal@ > > > > > > > ...> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it disgusts me to see people like prashant and gaurav > > > > stooping to > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > pitiable levels. wouldnt it be better to get them removed > > > > from the > > > > > > > > group somehow to get some sanity into the proceedings? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 gaurav sir glad that people are being benefitted keep up the good work. Rishabh vedic astrology , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Rishabh, > I dont need to justify for what I am doing & what I am not doing. > People who have been benefitted after getting reading from me, knows > it well. > So whether you respect me or not, or find the condition pitiable or > not...all upto the way u look at it. > I believe in Upanishads i.e. Vedantas...Truth will prevail, not the > false...Satyameva Jayate naanritam!! > Thank you, > . > http://gauravastro.150m.com vedic astrology , " Rishabh " > <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > alright gaurav sir listen up now > > that was the first time ever i was talking to you. i didnt like > what > > i was hearing but i because of the level of respect for you > decided > > to keep quiet. but not only this conversation after that everytime > > we had any chats u had nothing but cheap things to say for sjc and > > that is why i removed u from my list. and i am an sjc and > its > > all the more pitiable that u r catching me on my words and my ' i > > think u r right' was for worshipping shri vishnu. and moreover its > > my right to listen what people think but its only when i realised > > that u were motivated just by your jealousy and not wisdom that i > > decided to remove you from my list and found it a sin to ask you > for > > clarification on any astrological concept. because u used to ask > me > > the source of information and in case it was from sjc you used to > > start laughing. > > and moreover u r too drowned in jealously for sjc esp rafal ji to > > see the truth. u may use any means to justify yourself. what do i > > have to do by saying anything against u or prashant. it took me > some > > time to realise that your views were totally biased and utterly > crap > > for sjc and finally all the respect i had for you was gone. i > could > > have started criticizing you from day one but i thought u had some > > worth and i thought that it was wise to listen you through but i > > think i made a big mistake. u know what the truth is, i know it > and > > god knows it. > > bye > > > > > > vedic astrology , " " > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Rishabh, > > > I agree with what you have mentioned in your mail, but did you > > ever > > > tell me that you were not liking that??If Rafal happens to be > your > > > guru, did you ever protest??If you talk of Guru-Shishya > Parampara, > > > then do u know its a sin to hear anything against guru, like > > someone > > > insulting your guru, & in that case you either stop that > > discussion > > > there protest or leave. Now is this your love for your guru???? > > > Moreover, when I said those words, then you replied, " I think > you > > > are right " . > > > Lemme copy & paste our discussion so that it becomes convenient > > for > > > everyone to follow. > > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:55 PM): ok do u believe in kaal > sarp > > > yoga and kaal amrit yoga which shri k n rao doesnt believe in > but > > > sjc does > > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:28:58 PM): ? > > > (3/28/2008 9:29:27 PM): I dont believe in any yoga > > > unless it got some proof as per Jyotish Classics.. > > > (3/28/2008 9:29:36 PM): so i dont blieve KAY or KSY > > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:41 PM): which obviously ksy doesnt > > > have > > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:29:44 PM): right > > > (3/28/2008 9:29:46 PM): true.. > > > (3/28/2008 9:30:22 PM): if u want to practise > > Astrology > > > in true spirit...read BPHS & pray to Shree Vishnu.. > > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:00 PM): hmmm ok > > > (3/28/2008 9:31:01 PM): if u want to cook > astrology, > > d > > > way " SJC " does....follow their mails...n u will be a grr8 chef > in > > > cooking yogas, arudhas n curses.... > > > (3/28/2008 9:31:08 PM): this is my honest opinion.. > > > (3/28/2008 9:31:11 PM): rest upto u.. > > > (3/28/2008 9:31:12 PM): bye > > > rishabhjindal (3/28/2008 9:31:28 PM): i think u r right... > > > > > > Is this OK now for all???? > > > Rishabh, dont play with us. You wanted prediction which was > clear > > > from your chat, but i declined to do so. Is that the reason for > > this > > > subject of " Sad state of affairs " ??? > > > Thank you, > > > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Rishabh " > > > <rishabhjindal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > i am not even close to being an astrologer by any sense of > > > > imagination but it is sickening to see the proceedings driven > by > > > ego > > > > and an effort to show down the other person which is totally > > > against > > > > the spirit of this ancient science. i expressed my views on > the > > > > people i think who are responsible for that. i didnt like it > > when > > > > gaurav sir had nothing but mockery for shri rafal ji and he > > termed > > > > him as a blind follower of shri visti larsen during my chat > with > > > > him. i felt it as a deep insult of the guru-shishya parampara > > > > without which astrology wont exist for so many centuries. and > > also > > > > his unreasonable dismissal of valuable concepts like curses, > > > arudha > > > > etc. he finds sjc not as a help but an obstacle for progress > of > > > > astrology which i find totally unacceptable to believe. > > > > that is all i have to say with full honesty and integrity. > > > > Rishabh > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " sunil nair " > > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear prashant ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanxs ,i hate only the sin not sinner > > > > > > > > > > u hav gr8 potential and use it .I can see some spark of it > > > always > > > > in u > > > > > ,so do more studies .Do more meditation . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be blessed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Prashant > <praspandey@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > No hard feelings for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry if i did anything bad to you knowingly or > > > unknowingly > > > > as > > > > > you are elder to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regs, > > > > > > Prashant Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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