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om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

Dear Prabodh

Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does

he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should

these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to

the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sanjay ji Namste

 

Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who

come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned

the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we

consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or

5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija.

So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for

second birth?

Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking

of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna

of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24.

Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would

be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and

patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Guruji and Jyotishas,

There are some online copies of Muhurtha books so this search

became easy. Here is what I found on this topic,

 

# In marriage and upanayanam, Roga and Mrityu Panchakas should be

avoided.

 

# A day ruled by one's Janma Nakshatra is ordinarily held to be

unfavourable for an election. But in regard to nuptials, sacrifices,

first feeding, agriculture, upanayanam, coronation, buying lands,

learning the alphabet, Janma Nakshatra is favourable without exception

 

# Investiture of Sacred Thread (Upanayanam). - This is a ceremony in

which spiritiual instructions are given by authorised persons to give

spiritual eye to the boy by which his internal vision is brought

closer to the Universal light or God. This ceremony is peculiar to the

Hindus. But as the name indicates, any section of the human society,

whether Hindu or not, may take advantage of these valuable precepts

and begin to give their children the religious instruction most

suitable to their countries, castes and traditions, Upanayanam should

be performed in the 5th or the 8th year. If this is not possible, the

ceremoney should be gone through before the age of 16 In case of

Brahmins and 20 to 24 in regard to other sects of the Hindus.

 

The Sun, the Moon and Jupiter represent symbolically the father,

mother and life-force. Therefore, the three planets should be well

disposed to the ascendant at the timeof Upanayanam.

 

The best season is when the Sun is in his northern course (between

Capricorn and Gemini). The lunar months of Magha, Phalguna, Chaitra

and Vaisakha are good. The 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th and 13th lunar

days in the bright half and the 1st. 2nd and 3rd in the dark half are

held to be auspicious. The lunar days to be avoided are 4th, 8th, 9th,

11th, 12th, 14th and Full and New Moon days. Some are of opinion that

the 13th is good.

 

Exception: Even the 14th lunar day may be treated as good if the boy

is above the prescribed age.

 

--Why is tithi dependant on age?

 

Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday are propitious. Wednesday must

be rejected if Mercury Is combust. Sunday is ordinary while Tuesday

should be invariably rejected.

 

The following constellations are good: Anuradha, Hasta, Chitta, Swati,

Sravana, Dhanishta, Satabhisha, Uttara, Uttarashadha, Uttarabhadra,

Revati, Rohini, Mrigasira, Aswini, Punarvasu and Pushyami.

 

Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Virgo, Libra and Aquarius are good. The

other signs should be avoided. According to Vasishta and Garga. the

3rd day in the bright half of the month of Chaitra and Vaisakha and

the 7th day in the bright half of the lunar months Magha and Phalguna

are highly favourable.

 

The Moon must not occupy the 6th, 8lth, or 12th house. Malefics should

not be posited in quadrants. The ceremony should take place before

noon. The 8th house from the Lagna must be unoccupied.

 

The third house should be fortified by the situation of either

malefics or benefics, while the 6th should be devoid of a benefic.

Mars and Saturn should be avoided in the 5th.

 

Let Mars and Saturn be avoided in the 2nd from the election chart; as

otherwise they will make the boy's intellect dull. Similarly their

situation in the 12th should also be avoided. The Moon should always

be avoided in Lagna. But, however, if Cancer is the ascendant and the

Moon and Jupiter are in conjunction and malefics are in 3, 6 and 11,

the evil attached to the situation of the Moon in Lagna becomes

neutralised. The following malefic yogas should also be avoided:

 

Spoorjitham. - The Sun in kendra causes this yoga and the result is

the destruction of the family.

 

Spuritham. - Mars occupying a kendrs generates this evil yoga and

generally proves fatal to the Guru (preceptor) as well as the boy.

 

Rudhitham. - Saturn occupying a kendra produces this evil combination

resulting in incurable diseases.

 

Rundhram. - Rahu in a kendra gives rise to this malefic yoga. It

proves fatal to the mother.

 

Ugram. - This arises by Ketu's disposition in a kendra. It adversely

affects health and education.

 

Besides the above malefic yogas, the Moon should not be affected by

Mercury as it leads to the boy's blindness. The Moon should not be in

her own Navamsa, nor in that of the Sun or Mars.

 

The following are of course very favourable combinations for Upanayanam:

 

(1) The 6th, 7th or 8th house from the Moon being occupied by a benefic.

 

(2) The Sun or Venus in the 12th, Mercury in the 2nd and Jupiter in a

trine or a quadrant.

 

(3) Venus in Lagna. Mercury in the 10th, the Sun tn the 11th and the

Moon in a benefic navamsa.

 

(4) When the Lagna is Pisces occupied by Jupiter or Venus with the Sun

In the 11th and Mercury in the 10th or 12th house.

 

(6) Gemini rising with Mars in Aries. Venus in Taurus and the Moon in

Cancer.

 

 

Besides This Dr Raman has dedicated a separate chapter on

Education.

 

 

Warm Regards

 

Sanjay P

 

Om tat sat

 

varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sanjay ji and Prabodh,

>

> The following is what I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379

>

> Love,

> Swee

> p/s Read in URW Palladio IT fonts. Thanks.

>

> Upanayana

>

> 349. Upanayana can be performed even at the 5th

year,

> since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana) could

become well

> versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with prosperity.

> 350. To the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter

would be

> beneficent. Upanaya should be performed only at the years ordained

therefore

> and not at other times.

> 351. Upanayana should be performed when

Jupiter, Venus

> and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible, in order: RgVeda -

Jupiter;

> YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda - Mercury.

> 352. The appropriate seasons for the Upanayana

of the 3

> classes of twice born are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and

> Spring (Vasanta), taken in the reverse order. In general, the time

ordained

> for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha.

> 355. For Upayana, the most auspicious days are:

> Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th, 7th, 11th,

6th, and

> 12th.

> The other days are of middling effect.

>

> During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd, 3rd

and 5th

> days are of middling effect.

> The rest are extremely bad.

> 356-357. The nakshatras favourable for Upanayana are:

Hasta,

> Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya), Ardra (Rudra);

> Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana,

Dhanishtha,

> Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini

(Abjayoni).

> 358. No auspicious rites should be performed in the

> following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from the birth nakshatra

(janma) is

> called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the 18th Samudaya, the 23rd

Vinashana and

> the 25th Manasa.

> 359-360a. The weekdays pertaining to Acarya (Thursday); Saumya

> (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious.

> The days pertaining to the Sun

(Sunday) and

> Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining two (Tuesday and

Saturday) are

> detestable for commencing religious studies.

> 360b-361a Divide the daytime into 3. During the 1st part, one

> should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd part should be

related to

> men and during the 3rd part, acts relating to the manes. (Therefore,

> Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st part of the day).

> 361b-362a If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their

> vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy's

nakshatra

> or an enemy's varga, the student will lose his family status and his

> character.

> 362b-363a. Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda occupies an

> inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a perpetrator of great

> sins.

> 363b-364a. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their

> vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or their

rasi

> ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely

wealthy and

> well versed in the Vedas and Sastras.

> 365. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's

Veda is in

> high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the boy will be well versed in the

> Vedas and the Sastras.

> 366. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or

> their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or are in

exaltation,

> he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth.

> 367. It is rare that in the case of the boy,

all three,

> viz., the week day of the lord of one's Veda, the strength of the

lord of

> one's Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one's Veda occur

> simultaneously.

> 368. Thus when the Moon is in the varga of the

lord of

> the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it is in the varga

of an

> evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor and constantly

> distressed.

> 369. When Srvana or Punarvasu prevail, and the

Moon is

> in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with knowledge of the

> Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and wealth.

> 370-372. All the saigns (rasis) are commendable if the

time for

> the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious lagna, in an

auspicious

> varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear, the lagna, which is not

the 8th

> house, is occupied or aspected by beneficent planets or by the 5

planets,

> Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When they are friendly and strong,

or by

> the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with positional strength (dig

bala).;

> or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great blemishes[sC1] <>

possible

> in a day.

> 373. However, only the auspicious Naväàça of

the said

> signs are to be selected. But the varga of Cancer (karka) can never be

> selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent planet.

> 374. The vargas of Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and

Kanya

> are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a

> Naväàça selected in the above manner.

> 375-376. If evil planets occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th

Houses,

> beneficent planets are not found in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses;

and if the

> Moon does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house from the lagna, the boy

> takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and always

consumptive even

> if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th House).

> 377. If the Sun is exalted in a Kendra, the

student's

> parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the above 5

faults is

> productive of auspicious results in Upanayana.

> 378. The studentship ceremony should not be

performed

> other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the days of

anadhyäya[sC2]

> <> , the 6th, nor during Viñöi Karana.

> 379. The 8 galagraha days are the 4 days from

the 13th,

> the 3 days from the 7th and the Krishna Caturthi are declared to be

> inauspicious.

>

> Can someone please confirm from the Sanskrit version?

Chandrashekharji, I

> can re-send if req.

>

 

> Sanjay Rath [guruji@s...]

> Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM

> 'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| Upanayana

>

>

>

>

>

> om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> Dear Prabodh

> Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta

Book. Does

> he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya

arambha? Should

> these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying

this to

> the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Sanjay ji Namste

>

> Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are

many who

> come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is

concerned

> the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we

> consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place

as 2 or

> 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person

becomes Dwija.

> So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for

> second birth?

> Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am

thinking

> of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer

a lagna

> of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24.

> Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this

it would

> be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and

> patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

> Jai Jai Shankar

> Har Har Shankar

>

> ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

> http://uk.messenger.

>

>

>

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

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... hamsasso.aham ..

 

Dear Jyotishas,

 

The grihya samskaras are multiple day affairs. For example, what follows is

the general outline of the upanayana.

 

1) navagraha yagyam

2) naandimukham

3) udakashaanti

4) a.nkuraarpaNam

5) pratisarabandham

6) upanayanam

 

Are we supposed to fix muhurtas for each of these karmangas?

 

Secondly, even if we consider only the main upanayanam portion, which time

is important? Is it (a) the time when the sankalpam for upanayanam is made

and water is touched, or (b) the time when the thread is invested, or ©

the time when the gayatri mantra shakti is imparted?

 

ajit

 

 

sanjaychettiar [sanjaychettiar]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:50 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Upanayana

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Guruji and Jyotishas,

There are some online copies of Muhurtha books so this search

became easy. Here is what I found on this topic,

 

# In marriage and upanayanam, Roga and Mrityu Panchakas should be

avoided.

 

# A day ruled by one's Janma Nakshatra is ordinarily held to be

unfavourable for an election. But in regard to nuptials, sacrifices,

first feeding, agriculture, upanayanam, coronation, buying lands,

learning the alphabet, Janma Nakshatra is favourable without exception

 

# Investiture of Sacred Thread (Upanayanam). - This is a ceremony in

which spiritiual instructions are given by authorised persons to give

spiritual eye to the boy by which his internal vision is brought

closer to the Universal light or God. This ceremony is peculiar to the

Hindus. But as the name indicates, any section of the human society,

whether Hindu or not, may take advantage of these valuable precepts

and begin to give their children the religious instruction most

suitable to their countries, castes and traditions, Upanayanam should

be performed in the 5th or the 8th year. If this is not possible, the

ceremoney should be gone through before the age of 16 In case of

Brahmins and 20 to 24 in regard to other sects of the Hindus.

 

The Sun, the Moon and Jupiter represent symbolically the father,

mother and life-force. Therefore, the three planets should be well

disposed to the ascendant at the timeof Upanayanam.

 

The best season is when the Sun is in his northern course (between

Capricorn and Gemini). The lunar months of Magha, Phalguna, Chaitra

and Vaisakha are good. The 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th and 13th lunar

days in the bright half and the 1st. 2nd and 3rd in the dark half are

held to be auspicious. The lunar days to be avoided are 4th, 8th, 9th,

11th, 12th, 14th and Full and New Moon days. Some are of opinion that

the 13th is good.

 

Exception: Even the 14th lunar day may be treated as good if the boy

is above the prescribed age.

 

--Why is tithi dependant on age?

 

Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday are propitious. Wednesday must

be rejected if Mercury Is combust. Sunday is ordinary while Tuesday

should be invariably rejected.

 

The following constellations are good: Anuradha, Hasta, Chitta, Swati,

Sravana, Dhanishta, Satabhisha, Uttara, Uttarashadha, Uttarabhadra,

Revati, Rohini, Mrigasira, Aswini, Punarvasu and Pushyami.

 

Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Virgo, Libra and Aquarius are good. The

other signs should be avoided. According to Vasishta and Garga. the

3rd day in the bright half of the month of Chaitra and Vaisakha and

the 7th day in the bright half of the lunar months Magha and Phalguna

are highly favourable.

 

The Moon must not occupy the 6th, 8lth, or 12th house. Malefics should

not be posited in quadrants. The ceremony should take place before

noon. The 8th house from the Lagna must be unoccupied.

 

The third house should be fortified by the situation of either

malefics or benefics, while the 6th should be devoid of a benefic.

Mars and Saturn should be avoided in the 5th.

 

Let Mars and Saturn be avoided in the 2nd from the election chart; as

otherwise they will make the boy's intellect dull. Similarly their

situation in the 12th should also be avoided. The Moon should always

be avoided in Lagna. But, however, if Cancer is the ascendant and the

Moon and Jupiter are in conjunction and malefics are in 3, 6 and 11,

the evil attached to the situation of the Moon in Lagna becomes

neutralised. The following malefic yogas should also be avoided:

 

Spoorjitham. - The Sun in kendra causes this yoga and the result is

the destruction of the family.

 

Spuritham. - Mars occupying a kendrs generates this evil yoga and

generally proves fatal to the Guru (preceptor) as well as the boy.

 

Rudhitham. - Saturn occupying a kendra produces this evil combination

resulting in incurable diseases.

 

Rundhram. - Rahu in a kendra gives rise to this malefic yoga. It

proves fatal to the mother.

 

Ugram. - This arises by Ketu's disposition in a kendra. It adversely

affects health and education.

 

Besides the above malefic yogas, the Moon should not be affected by

Mercury as it leads to the boy's blindness. The Moon should not be in

her own Navamsa, nor in that of the Sun or Mars.

 

The following are of course very favourable combinations for Upanayanam:

 

(1) The 6th, 7th or 8th house from the Moon being occupied by a benefic.

 

(2) The Sun or Venus in the 12th, Mercury in the 2nd and Jupiter in a

trine or a quadrant.

 

(3) Venus in Lagna. Mercury in the 10th, the Sun tn the 11th and the

Moon in a benefic navamsa.

 

(4) When the Lagna is Pisces occupied by Jupiter or Venus with the Sun

In the 11th and Mercury in the 10th or 12th house.

 

(6) Gemini rising with Mars in Aries. Venus in Taurus and the Moon in

Cancer.

 

 

Besides This Dr Raman has dedicated a separate chapter on

Education.

 

 

Warm Regards

 

Sanjay P

 

Om tat sat

 

varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Sanjay ji and Prabodh,

>

> The following is what I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379

>

> Love,

> Swee

> p/s Read in URW Palladio IT fonts. Thanks.

>

> Upanayana

>

> 349. Upanayana can be performed even at the 5th

year,

> since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana) could

become well

> versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with prosperity.

> 350. To the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter

would be

> beneficent. Upanaya should be performed only at the years ordained

therefore

> and not at other times.

> 351. Upanayana should be performed when

Jupiter, Venus

> and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible, in order: RgVeda -

Jupiter;

> YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda - Mercury.

> 352. The appropriate seasons for the Upanayana

of the 3

> classes of twice born are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and

> Spring (Vasanta), taken in the reverse order. In general, the time

ordained

> for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha.

> 355. For Upayana, the most auspicious days are:

> Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th, 7th, 11th,

6th, and

> 12th.

> The other days are of middling effect.

>

> During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd, 3rd

and 5th

> days are of middling effect.

> The rest are extremely bad.

> 356-357. The nakshatras favourable for Upanayana are:

Hasta,

> Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya), Ardra (Rudra);

> Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana,

Dhanishtha,

> Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini

(Abjayoni).

> 358. No auspicious rites should be performed in the

> following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from the birth nakshatra

(janma) is

> called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the 18th Samudaya, the 23rd

Vinashana and

> the 25th Manasa.

> 359-360a. The weekdays pertaining to Acarya (Thursday); Saumya

> (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious.

> The days pertaining to the Sun

(Sunday) and

> Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining two (Tuesday and

Saturday) are

> detestable for commencing religious studies.

> 360b-361a Divide the daytime into 3. During the 1st part, one

> should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd part should be

related to

> men and during the 3rd part, acts relating to the manes. (Therefore,

> Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st part of the day).

> 361b-362a If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their

> vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy's

nakshatra

> or an enemy's varga, the student will lose his family status and his

> character.

> 362b-363a. Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda occupies an

> inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a perpetrator of great

> sins.

> 363b-364a. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their

> vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or their

rasi

> ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely

wealthy and

> well versed in the Vedas and Sastras.

> 365. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's

Veda is in

> high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the boy will be well versed in the

> Vedas and the Sastras.

> 366. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or

> their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or are in

exaltation,

> he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth.

> 367. It is rare that in the case of the boy,

all three,

> viz., the week day of the lord of one's Veda, the strength of the

lord of

> one's Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one's Veda occur

> simultaneously.

> 368. Thus when the Moon is in the varga of the

lord of

> the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it is in the varga

of an

> evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor and constantly

> distressed.

> 369. When Srvana or Punarvasu prevail, and the

Moon is

> in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with knowledge of the

> Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and wealth.

> 370-372. All the saigns (rasis) are commendable if the

time for

> the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious lagna, in an

auspicious

> varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear, the lagna, which is not

the 8th

> house, is occupied or aspected by beneficent planets or by the 5

planets,

> Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When they are friendly and strong,

or by

> the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with positional strength (dig

bala).;

> or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great blemishes[sC1] <>

possible

> in a day.

> 373. However, only the auspicious Naväàça of

the said

> signs are to be selected. But the varga of Cancer (karka) can never be

> selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent planet.

> 374. The vargas of Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and

Kanya

> are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a

> Naväàça selected in the above manner.

> 375-376. If evil planets occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th

Houses,

> beneficent planets are not found in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses;

and if the

> Moon does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house from the lagna, the boy

> takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and always

consumptive even

> if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th House).

> 377. If the Sun is exalted in a Kendra, the

student's

> parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the above 5

faults is

> productive of auspicious results in Upanayana.

> 378. The studentship ceremony should not be

performed

> other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the days of

anadhyäya[sC2]

> <> , the 6th, nor during Viñöi Karana.

> 379. The 8 galagraha days are the 4 days from

the 13th,

> the 3 days from the 7th and the Krishna Caturthi are declared to be

> inauspicious.

>

> Can someone please confirm from the Sanskrit version?

Chandrashekharji, I

> can re-send if req.

>

 

> Sanjay Rath [guruji@s...]

> Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM

> 'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| Upanayana

>

>

>

>

>

> om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> Dear Prabodh

> Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta

Book. Does

> he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya

arambha? Should

> these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying

this to

> the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Sanjay ji Namste

>

> Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are

many who

> come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is

concerned

> the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we

> consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place

as 2 or

> 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person

becomes Dwija.

> So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for

> second birth?

> Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am

thinking

> of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer

a lagna

> of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24.

> Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this

it would

> be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and

> patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

> Jai Jai Shankar

> Har Har Shankar

>

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` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Prabodh and other listed members,

I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta Padavi,

Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.

Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :

jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p<cme caÚÉ< sÚnXyayae

inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye,

te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<

³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.

ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,

%pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.

janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà sannanadhyäyo

niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|

te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà

kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||

atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|

upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||

 

Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th year.Some have

said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be

performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th year,then

Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,

Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best

Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and Revathi are

middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set ( Astangata

).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more important.According to

Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be transitting over

2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta Madhaveeyam,even Guru's

transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana and Shukla

Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, Mitra and

Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can perform the

Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta Madhaveeya says

for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in 6th or

8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also should have

Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from their

Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his Father's

Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother or

Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be occupied by

Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is ok.Budha

in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or Trikona

from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per Prayoga

Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It aslo says,

Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.

Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:

ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,

rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze,

sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,

ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.

viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|

räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe|

süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|

çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||

Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th year,for

Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the

performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good for

Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha months

are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For Brahmins,Vasanta

Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas Sharadrutu is

advisible.

Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

 

ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae

jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.

³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>

zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.

karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito

jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||

krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù

çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||

 

Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing Upavita ,the

Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be in

2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra should

not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6-11-3 are

agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not

agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.

Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna Kendra :

 

kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD<it Üu_y>,

gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.

kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca prayacchanti

nrubhyaù|

guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat||

 

If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a poet.If Guru

is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra makes a

Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in Kendra

,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna Kendra,the

Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If Ravi is in

Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental organisation.Kuja in a

Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons and if

Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people or low

caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna, then

the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we have to

consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta Lagna.

As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited and for

marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like

Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, Ganda and

Atiganda are prohibited.

Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which

Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified.

 

keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa<ziSwte,

l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE keNÔenukªla> pre,

Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,

saEMya<ze;u ivxaE buxakRæuguja> kmaRy l¶iSwta>.

gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye

mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja<itmmuo Èy<ze;u zu³e<iÖna.

oe<Tye va ividnae Éve tnugtZzu³ae guévaHR;e

yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.

kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|

lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|

svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|

saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||

gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye

ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||

kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe

yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||

 

Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in 11th

from Muhurta Lagna.

2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru and Budha

in Kendra in a good house.

3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru in

strength in Kendra.

4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in Lagna.

5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in Kataka

Rashi.

6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka Vargothamamsha

and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.

7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in Meena

Rashi.

Now as per Narada Maharshi :

 

³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,

àaKs<Xya gijRte neòae ìtb<xae gl¢he.

kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|

präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||

 

Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya

Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are

prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis are Gala

Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya Tithis are

prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half day is

Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all Anadhyaya

days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.

 

When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th

Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta available

in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna Paksha can

be considered.

Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana Muhurtas.Let us go

through them also.

1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra having

Shubha Navamsha.

2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and malefics in

11th house.

3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in Kendra

or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.

4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.

5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and Kuja in

11th or in 3rd from Lagna.

6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic planets

),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in

Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.

7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11.

8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's aspect,Guru in

Lagna Kendra or Trikona.

9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting Chandra,Ravi in

11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.

I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient Classics on

Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

 

 

 

 

Dear Sanjay ji Namste

 

Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be

well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th.

Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.

Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd

or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is

cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should

not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars.

I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and Moon

and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house

for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th may

be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it

is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you said

about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should be

empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies.

 

I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am

finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on

29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be most

suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan

palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The Moon

is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only

problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in

kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in previous

lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next

lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.

So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg to

nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

 

varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote:

>

>

>

> om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> Dear Prabodh

> Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta

Book. Does

> he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya

arambha? Should

> these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying

this to

> the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Sanjay

 

ji Namste

>

> Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are

many who

> come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is

concerned

> the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we

> consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place

as 2 or

> 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person

becomes Dwija.

> So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for

> second birth?

> Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am

thinking

> of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer

a lagna

> of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24.

> Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this

it would

> be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and

> patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

> Jai Jai Shankar

> Har Har Shankar

>

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om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

 

Dear Swee,

my commets are given below the text of the great devarshi Narada Purana. The Purana has to be interpreted in the light of the Veda and the various other literature in this regard.

Best Wishes

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Swee Chan [swee] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:04 PMvarahamihira ; 'Amol Mandar'RE: |Sri Varaha| UpanayanaImportance: High

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay ji and Prabodh,

 

The following is what I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379

 

Love,

Swee

p/s Read in URW Palladio IT fonts. Thanks.

 

Upanayana

 

349. Upanayana can be performed even at the 5th year, since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana) could become well versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with prosperity.[s.R:] The Purana says 'Can be'and this is not must be nor does it lay down the standard age in here. What is followed is the interpretation of Yajnavalkya andthe ages given are based on the expiry of the sthira dasa period as 7, 8 and 9 years for Vaishya, Kshatriya and Brahmanas respectively. The choise of 5th year is very rare.

350. To the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter would be beneficent. Upanaya should be performed only at the years ordained therefore and not at other times.[s.R:] I think this is a poor translation. What is the translator saying?

351. Upanayana should be performed when Jupiter, Venus and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible, in order: RgVeda - Jupiter; YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda - Mercury.[s.R:] Brahmanas are classified on the basis of the Vedas just as AUM has three rishi's - Gautama, Atri and Bharadwaj. The Upanayana is normally performed by the giving of the Sacred Gayatri mantra of the Rig Veda and what you speak of is the commencement of the learning of the Vedas itself.

352. The appropriate seasons for the Upanayana of the 3 classes of twice born are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and Spring (Vasanta), taken in the reverse order. In general, the time ordained for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha.[s.R:] This is Uttara-ayana in general

355. For Upayana, the most auspicious days are:

Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th, 7th, 11th, 6th, and 12th.

The other days are of middling effect.

 

During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd, 3rd and 5th days are of middling effect.

The rest are extremely bad.[s.R:] No comments. The views are acceptable.

356-357. The nakshatras favourable for Upanayana are: Hasta, Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya), Ardra (Rudra); Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana, Dhanishtha, Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini (Abjayoni).[s.R:] There are other views as well and the views of Narada Purana are very good.

358. No auspicious rites should be performed in the following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from the birth nakshatra (janma) is called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the 18th Samudaya, the 23rd Vinashana and the 25th Manasa.[s.R:] Confirm the Sarvatobhadra based on this i.e. this should be on the basis of 28 star and not 27 star system as the Upanayana is for spiritual purposes.

359-360a. The weekdays pertaining to Acarya (Thursday); Saumya (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious.[s.R:] Poor translation - Acharya is Jupiter hence Thursday; Kavya is for the Kavi Venus and hence Friday (not Mercury for Kavya) and Saumya refers to Mercury and Wednesday.

The days pertaining to the Sun (Sunday) and Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining two (Tuesday and Saturday) are detestable for commencing religious studies.[s.R:] Sunday is still fine as the Sun is very spiritual while Saturday is most ignoble for this purpose. Mondays causes the mind to stray while Tuesdays causes too many fights and troubles for health.

360b-361a Divide the daytime into 3. During the 1st part, one should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd part should be related to men and during the 3rd part, acts relating to the manes. (Therefore, Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st part of the day).[s.R:] The division of the day into 6 parts is called RITU and the day portion has 3 rotu and night portion also has 3 ritu. All actions are based on ritu for success as Mercury the karaka of ritu is also the karaka of karma (10th house)

361b-362a If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy’s nakshatra or an enemy’s varga, the student will lose his family status and his character.

362b-363a. Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda occupies an inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a perpetrator of great sins.

363b-364a. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or their rasi ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely wealthy and well versed in the Vedas and Sastras.

365. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda is in high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the boy will be well versed in the Vedas and the Sastras.

366. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or are in exaltation, he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth.

367. It is rare that in the case of the boy, all three, viz., the week day of the lord of one’s Veda, the strength of the lord of one’s Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one’s Veda occur simultaneously.[s.R:] Worship of ones Vedamurti is desirable.

368. Thus when the Moon is in the varga of the lord of the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it is in the varga of an evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor and constantly distressed.

369. When Srvana or Punarvasu prevail, and the Moon is in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with knowledge of the Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and wealth.

370-372. All the saigns (rasis) are commendable if the time for the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious lagna, in an auspicious varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear, the lagna, which is not the 8th house, is occupied or aspected by beneficent planets or by the 5 planets, Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When they are friendly and strong, or by the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with positional strength (dig bala).; or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great blemishes[sC1] possible in a day.[s.R:] This is the over riding factor over tithi and other things...the Lagna suddhi is vital to any Muhurta. Just ensure that Jupiter or the Veda-graha is strong.

373. However, only the auspicious Naväàça of the said signs are to be selected. But the varga of Cancer (karka) can never be selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent planet.[s.R:] This is the Brahmana rasi and being the sign of exaltation of Jupiter it is very auspicious for the Vedas.

374. The vargas of Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and Kanya are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a Naväàça selected in the above manner.[s.R:] These vargas ae also considered very auspicious in the Siddhamsa D24 chart and Vimsamsa D20 chart (natal horoscopy)

375-376. If evil planets occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th Houses, beneficent planets are not found in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses; and if the Moon does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house from the lagna, the boy takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and always consumptive even if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th House).[s.R:] What sort of translation is this? Malefics in Upachaya, Benefics not in dusthana and Moon not in dusthana is BAD!!! Pathetic rendering of such a great Purana.

377. If the Sun is exalted in a Kendra, the student’s parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the above 5 faults is productive of auspicious results in Upanayana.[s.R:] ?? I need to check the sanskrit sloka and this I can do only in March-April when in Puri. If someone can send it now, we can study the sloka.

378. The studentship ceremony should not be performed other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the days of anadhyäya[sC2] , the 6th, nor during Viñöi Karana.

379. The 8 galagraha days are the 4 days from the 13th, the 3 days from the 7th and the Krishna Caturthi are declared to be inauspicious.[s.R:] I think these are the 13, 14, 15 and 1 respectively in Krsna and Sukla Pratipada. I am not sure why astami has been excluded but 7 and 9 are surely not good and Krishna Chaturthi is for leaving the pen not starting any kind of writing.

 

Can someone please confirm from the Sanskrit version? Chandrashekharji, I can re-send if req.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sanjay Rath [guruji] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Upanayana

 

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

Dear Prabodh

Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does

he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should

these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to

the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman

Best Wishes

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Dear Sanjay ji Namste

 

Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who

come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned

the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we

consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or

5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija.

So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for

second birth?

Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking

of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna

of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24.

Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would

be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and

patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

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Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste

 

Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all

together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.

 

There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as

possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information

added I have decided to follow these guidelines.

1) get the benefics in the kendras

2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service

oriented which is not bad in todays standards.

3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.

4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.

5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.

6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.

7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.

 

With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on

29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.

Please correct me if found wrong.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

 

 

 

 

varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " <ramadasrao>

wrote:

> ` nmae naray[ay,

> om namo näräyaëäya|

> Dear Prabodh and other listed members,

> I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta

Padavi,

> Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.

> Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :

> jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p<cme caÚÉ< sÚnXyayae

> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye,

> te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<

> ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.

> ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,

> %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.

> janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà sannanadhyäyo

> niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|

> te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà

> kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||

> atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|

> upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||

>

> Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th

year.Some have

> said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be

> performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th year,then

> Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,

> Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best

> Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and Revathi are

> middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (

Astangata

> ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more

important.According to

> Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be transitting over

> 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta

Madhaveeyam,even Guru's

> transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana

and Shukla

> Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,

Mitra and

> Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can

perform the

> Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta

Madhaveeya says

> for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in

6th or

> 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also

should have

> Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from their

> Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his Father's

> Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother or

> Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be

occupied by

> Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is

ok.Budha

> in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or

Trikona

> from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per Prayoga

> Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It

aslo says,

> Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.

> Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:

> ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,

> rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze,

> sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,

> ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.

> viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|

> räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe|

> süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|

> çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||

> Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th

year,for

> Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the

> performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good for

> Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha

months

> are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For Brahmins,Vasanta

> Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas

Sharadrutu is

> advisible.

> Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

>

> ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae

> jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.

> ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>

> zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.

> karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito

> jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||

> krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù

> çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||

>

> Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing

Upavita ,the

> Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru

should be in

> 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra

should

> not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in

6-11-3 are

> agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not

> agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.

> Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna

Kendra :

>

> kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD<it Üu_y>,

> gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.

> kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca prayacchanti

> nrubhyaù|

> guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat||

>

> If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a

poet.If Guru

> is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra makes a

> Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in Kendra

> ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna

Kendra,the

> Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If

Ravi is in

> Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental organisation.Kuja in a

> Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons

and if

> Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people

or low

> caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna,

then

> the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we

have to

> consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta

Lagna.

> As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited and for

> marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like

> Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, Ganda and

> Atiganda are prohibited.

> Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which

> Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified.

>

> keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa<ziSwte,

> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE keNÔenukªla> pre,

> Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,

> saEMya<ze;u ivxaE buxakRæuguja> kmaRy l¶iSwta>.

> gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye

> mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja<itmmuo Èy<ze;u zu³e<iÖna.

> oe<Tye va ividnae Éve tnugtZzu³ae guévaHR;e

> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.

> kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|

> lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|

> svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|

> saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||

> gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye

> ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||

> kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe

> yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||

>

> Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in

11th

> from Muhurta Lagna.

> 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru

and Budha

> in Kendra in a good house.

> 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru in

> strength in Kendra.

> 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in Lagna.

> 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in

Kataka

> Rashi.

> 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka

Vargothamamsha

> and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.

> 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in Meena

> Rashi.

> Now as per Narada Maharshi :

>

> ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,

> àaKs<Xya gijRte neòae ìtb<xae gl¢he.

> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|

> präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||

>

> Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya

> Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are

> prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis

are Gala

> Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya

Tithis are

> prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half day is

> Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all

Anadhyaya

> days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.

>

> When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th

> Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta

available

> in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna

Paksha can

> be considered.

> Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana

Muhurtas.Let us go

> through them also.

> 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra having

> Shubha Navamsha.

> 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and malefics in

> 11th house.

> 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in

Kendra

> or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.

> 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.

> 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and

Kuja in

> 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.

> 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic planets

> ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in

> Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.

> 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11.

> 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's

aspect,Guru in

> Lagna Kendra or Trikona.

> 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting

Chandra,Ravi in

> 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.

> I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient

Classics on

> Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]

> Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM

> varahamihira

> |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

>

>

>

>

> Dear Sanjay ji Namste

>

> Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be

> well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th.

> Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.

> Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd

> or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is

> cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should

> not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars.

> I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and Moon

> and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house

> for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th may

> be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it

> is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you said

> about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should be

> empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies.

>

> I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am

> finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on

> 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be most

> suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan

> palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The Moon

> is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only

> problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in

> kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in previous

> lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next

> lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.

> So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg to

> nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

> Jai Jai Shankar

> Har Har Shankar

>

>

> varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> > Dear Prabodh

> > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta

> Book. Does

> > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya

> arambha? Should

> > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying

> this to

> > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

> > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sanjay

>

> ji Namste

> >

> > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are

> many who

> > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is

> concerned

> > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we

> > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place

> as 2 or

> > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person

> becomes Dwija.

> > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and

karak for

> > second birth?

> > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am

> thinking

> > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer

> a lagna

> > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24.

> > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this

> it would

> > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and

> > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande

> > Jai Jai Shankar

> > Har Har Shankar

> >

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Om Gurava Namah

 

Dear Sanjay ji,

 

Thank you for your valuable comments.

My assumptions on sloka 350. I think

what the translator is trying to say is that it is acceptable for both Venus

and Jupiter not to be in strength. Later in the slokas,

it is quite clear to find a good muhurata for vivahaprashna,

both Venus and Jupiter have to be in strength.

 

The e-book of Narada

Purana is from Maharishi’s

site. The Purva khanda is 2.4MB

in zip format, though Uttara Khnada

is half that. Can I still send both to this list? Please let me know.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

Sanjay Rath [guruji]

Thursday, February 24, 2005

6:47 AM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha|

Upanayana

 

 

om

namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

Dear Swee,

my commets are given below the text of the great devarshi

Narada Purana. The Purana has to be interpreted in the light of the Veda and

the various other literature in this regard.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

 

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Swee Chan

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Tuesday, February 22, 2005

5:04 PM

varahamihira ;

'Amol Mandar'

RE: |Sri Varaha|

Upanayana

Importance: High

Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear Sanjay ji and

Prabodh,

 

The following is what

I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379

 

Love,

Swee

p/s Read in URW Palladio

IT fonts. Thanks.

 

Upanayana

 

349.                      Upanayana can be performed

even at the 5th year, since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana)

could become well versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with

prosperity.

[s.R:] The Purana says 'Can be'and this is not must be nor

does it lay down the standard age in here. What is followed is the

interpretation of Yajnavalkya andthe ages given are based on the expiry of the

sthira dasa period as 7, 8 and 9 years for Vaishya, Kshatriya and Brahmanas

respectively. The choise of 5th year is very rare.

350.                      To

the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter would be beneficent. Upanaya should be

performed only at the years ordained therefore and not at other times.

[s.R:] I think this is a poor translation. What is the

translator saying?

351.                      Upanayana should be

performed when Jupiter, Venus and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible,

in order: RgVeda - Jupiter; YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda

- Mercury.

[s.R:] Brahmanas are classified on the basis of the Vedas just

as AUM has three rishi's - Gautama, Atri and Bharadwaj. The Upanayana is

normally performed by the giving of the Sacred Gayatri mantra of the Rig Veda

and what you speak of is the commencement of the learning of the Vedas itself.

352.                      The appropriate seasons

for the Upanayana of the 3 classes of twice     born

are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and Spring (Vasanta),  taken in the reverse order. In general, the

time ordained for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha.

[s.R:] This is Uttara-ayana in general

355.                   For Upayana, the most

auspicious days are:

                           Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th,

7th, 11th, 6th, and 12th.

                           The other days are of middling effect.

 

                           During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd,

3rd and 5th days are of middling effect.

                           The rest are extremely bad.

[s.R:] No comments. The views are acceptable.

356-357.              The nakshatras favourable for

Upanayana are: Hasta, Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya),

Ardra (Rudra); Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana,

Dhanishtha, Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini

(Abjayoni).

[s.R:] There are other views as well and the views of Narada

Purana are very good.

358.                      No auspicious rites should

be performed in the following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from

the birth nakshatra (janma) is called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the

18th Samudaya, the 23rd Vinashana and the 25th

Manasa.

[s.R:] Confirm the Sarvatobhadra based on this i.e. this

should be on the basis of 28 star and not 27 star system as the Upanayana

is for spiritual purposes.

359-360a.           The weekdays pertaining to Acarya

(Thursday); Saumya (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious.

[s.R:] Poor translation - Acharya is Jupiter hence Thursday;

Kavya is for the Kavi Venus and hence Friday (not Mercury for Kavya) and Saumya

refers to Mercury and Wednesday.

                              The days

pertaining to the Sun (Sunday) and Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining

two (Tuesday and Saturday) are detestable for commencing religious studies.

[s.R:] Sunday is still fine as the Sun is very spiritual while

Saturday is most ignoble for this purpose. Mondays causes the mind to stray

while Tuesdays causes too many fights and troubles for health.

360b-361a          Divide the daytime into 3. During the

1st part, one should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd

part should be related to men and during the 3rd part, acts relating

to the manes. (Therefore, Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st

part of the day).

[s.R:] The division of the day into 6 parts is called RITU and

the day portion has 3 rotu and night portion also has 3 ritu. All actions are

based on ritu for success as Mercury the karaka of ritu is also the karaka of

karma (10th house)

361b-362a          If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s

Veda or their vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy’s

nakshatra or an enemy’s varga, the student will lose his family status and his

character.

362b-363a.         Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s

Veda occupies an inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a

perpetrator of great sins.

363b-364a.         If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s

Veda or their vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or

their rasi ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely

wealthy and well versed in the Vedas and Sastras.

365.                      If Jupiter, Venus or the

Lord of one’s Veda is in high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the

boy will be well versed in the Vedas and the Sastras.

366.                      If Jupiter, Venus or the

Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or

are in exaltation, he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth.

367.                      It is rare that in the

case of the boy, all three, viz., the week day of the lord of one’s Veda, the

strength of the lord of one’s Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one’s

Veda occur simultaneously.

[s.R:] Worship of ones Vedamurti is desirable.

368.                      Thus when the Moon is in

the varga of the lord of the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it

is in the varga of an evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor

and constantly distressed.

369.                      When Srvana or Punarvasu

prevail, and the Moon is in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with

knowledge of the Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and

wealth.

370-372.              All the saigns (rasis) are

commendable if the time for the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious

lagna, in an auspicious varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear,

the lagna, which is not the 8th house, is occupied or aspected by

beneficent planets or by the 5 planets, Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When

they are friendly and strong, or by the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with

positional strength (dig bala).; or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great

blemishes[sC1] possible in

a day.

[s.R:] This is the over riding factor over tithi and other

things...the Lagna suddhi is vital to any Muhurta. Just ensure

that Jupiter or the Veda-graha is strong.

373.                      However, only the

auspicious Naväàça of the said signs are to be selected. But the varga of

Cancer (karka) can never be selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent

planet.

[s.R:] This is the Brahmana rasi and being the

sign of exaltation of Jupiter it is very auspicious for the Vedas.

374.                      The vargas of Vrishabha,

Mithuna, Tula

and Kanya are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a

Naväàça selected in the above manner.

[s.R:] These vargas ae also considered very auspicious in the

Siddhamsa D24 chart and Vimsamsa D20 chart (natal horoscopy)

375-376.              If evil planets occupy the 3rd,

6th and 11th Houses, beneficent planets are not found in

the 6th, 8th and 12th houses; and if the Moon

does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house

from the lagna, the boy takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and

always consumptive even if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th

House).

[s.R:] What sort of translation is this? Malefics in Upachaya,

Benefics not in dusthana and Moon not in dusthana is BAD!!! Pathetic

rendering of such a great Purana.

377.                      If the Sun is exalted in a

Kendra, the student’s parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the

above 5 faults is productive of auspicious results in Upanayana.

[s.R:] ?? I need to check the sanskrit sloka and this I can do

only in March-April when in Puri. If someone can send it now, we can study the

sloka.

378.                      The studentship ceremony

should not be performed other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the

days of anadhyäya[sC2] , the 6th,

nor during Viñöi Karana.

379.                      The 8 galagraha days are

the 4 days from the 13th, the 3 days from the 7th and the

Krishna Caturthi are declared to be inauspicious.

[s.R:] I think these are the 13, 14, 15 and 1 respectively in

Krsna and Sukla Pratipada. I am not sure why astami has been excluded but 7 and

9 are surely not good and Krishna Chaturthi is for leaving the pen not starting

any kind of writing.

 

Can someone please

confirm from the Sanskrit version? Chandrashekharji, I can re-send if req.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sanjay Rath

[guruji]

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM

'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Upanayana

 

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

Dear Prabodh

Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book.

Does

he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha?

Should

these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying

this to

the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

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Dear Sanjay ji Namste

 

Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many

who

come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is

concerned

the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we

consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as

2 or

5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes

Dwija.

So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for

second birth?

Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am

thinking

of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a

lagna

of Shubha graha and Me and/or  Ju

well placed in D-1 and/or D-24.

Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it

would

be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and

patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

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` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Prabodh,

Please furnish your birth particulars as to see whether you have the Karma to perform Upanayana to your sons this year.

Thanking you,

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote:

Dear Ramdas Ji NamsteChi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanamwill be performed at Nagpur.Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh,> > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born indifferent places.May I know the names of those places and in whichplace you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste>

> Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at> proper muhurta.> Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)> Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go through> the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> > >

> Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information> > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service> > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of

the conditions.> > Please correct me if found wrong.> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > > wrote:> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta> > Padavi,> > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme> zu³taeNye,> > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma

va.> > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,> > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaàsannanadhyäyo> > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> > year.Some have> > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be> > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th> year,then> > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,> > >

Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best> > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and> Revathi are> > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (> > Astangata> > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more> > important.According to> > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be> transitting over> > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana> > and Shukla> > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,> > Mitra and> > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> > perform the> > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta>

> Madhaveeya says> > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in> > 6th or> > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also> > should have> > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from> their> > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his> Father's> > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elderbrother or> > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> > occupied by> > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is> > ok.Budha> > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or> > Trikona> > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per> Prayoga> > > Parijata, the birth month can also be

considered for Upanayana.It> > aslo says,> > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.> > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|> > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th> > year,for> > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the> > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough

Uttarayana isgood for> > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha> > months> > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For> Brahmins,Vasanta> > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> > Sharadrutu is> > > advisible.> > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>> > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo

dvitéyodbhave||> > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> > Upavita ,the> > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru> > should be in> > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra> > should> > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in> > 6-11-3 are> > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not> > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna> > Kendra :> > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén

guëäàçcaprayacchanti> > > nrubhyaù|> > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaàtat||> > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> > poet.If Guru> > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra> makes a> > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in> Kendra> > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna> > Kendra,the> > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If> > Ravi is in> > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental> organisation.Kuja in a> > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons> > and if> > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people> > or

low> > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna,> > then> > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we> > have to> > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta> > Lagna.> > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited> and for> > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,> Ganda and> > > Atiganda are prohibited.> > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which> > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified.> > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE>

keNÔenukªla> pre,> > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||> > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in> > 11th> >

> from Muhurta Lagna.> > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru> > and Budha> > > in Kendra in a good house.> > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) andGuru in> > > strength in Kendra.> > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in> Lagna.> > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in> > Kataka> > > Rashi.> > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> > Vargothamamsha> > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in> Meena> > > Rashi.> > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > > àaKs> kruñëe

pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya> > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are> > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis> > are Gala> > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya> > Tithis are> > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half> day is> > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all> > Anadhyaya> > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.> > > > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7thand 13th> > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta> >

available> > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna> > Paksha can> > > be considered.> > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana> > Muhurtas.Let us go> > > through them also.> > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra> having> > > Shubha Navamsha.> > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and> malefics in> > > 11th house.> > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in> > Kendra> > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.> > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.> > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and> > Kuja in> > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.> > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being

auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic> planets> > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in> > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.> > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in3-6-11.> > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's> > aspect,Guru in> > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.> > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting> > Chandra,Ravi in> > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.> > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient> > Classics on> > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]> > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM> > > varahamihira > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste> > > > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be> > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th.> > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.> > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd> > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is> > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should> > > not be with Mercury and in own

amsa or in Sun or mars. > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna andMoon> > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house> > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th.5th may> > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it> > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly onceyou said> > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhavashould be> > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am> > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on> > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems tobe most> > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in

parivartan> > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well.The Moon> > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only> > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in> > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as inprevious> > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next> > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.> > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we dosomethingg to> > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath"

wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya> > > > Dear Prabodh> > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta> > > Book. Does> > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya> > > arambha? Should> > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I amcopying> > > this to> > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.> > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by DrRaman> > > > Best Wishes> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India+91.6752.226269> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > > > ji Namste> > > > > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are> > > many who> > > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is> > > concerned> > > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam?> Should we> > > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju andplace> > > as 2 or> > > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person> > > becomes Dwija.> > > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and> > karak for> > > > second birth? > > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I

am> > > thinking> > > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I willprefer> > > a lagna> > > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this> > > it would> > > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard> work and> > > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!> > > > http://uk.messenger.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|> > > http://www.varahamihira > > >

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Dear Ramdas ji Namste

The function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

varahamihira , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

>

> Dear Prabodh,

>

> Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or

two.Suppose if you postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for

that ?

>

>

>

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

>

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

>

> Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar> wrote:

>

> Dear Ramdas Ji Namste

>

> Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam

> will be performed at Nagpur.

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

> Jai Jai Shankar

> Har Har Shankar

>

> varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> >

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> >

> > Dear Prabodh,

> >

> > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in

> different places.May I know the names of those places and in which

> place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?

> >

> > I hope this helps you.

> >

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> >

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramdas ji Namste

> >

> > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at

> > proper muhurta.

> > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)

> > Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande

> > Jai Jai Shankar

> > Har Har Shankar

> >

> >

> > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > >

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > >

> > > Dear Prabodh,

> > >

> > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go through

> > the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.

> > >

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > >

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste

> > >

> > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all

> > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.

> > >

> > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as

> > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your

information

> > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines.

> > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras

> > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service

> > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.

> > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.

> > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.

> > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.

> > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.

> > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.

> > >

> > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on

> > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.

> > > Please correct me if found wrong.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > >

> > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > Har Har Shankar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao "

> > > wrote:

> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,

> > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta

> > > Padavi,

> > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.

> > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :

> > > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme

> > zu³taeNye,

> > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<

> > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.

> > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,

> > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.

> > > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà

> sannanadhyäyo

> > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|

> > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà

> > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||

> > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|

> > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th

> > > year.Some have

> > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be

> > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th

> > year,then

> > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,

> > > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the

best

> > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and

> > Revathi are

> > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (

> > > Astangata

> > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more

> > > important.According to

> > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be

> > transitting over

> > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta

> > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's

> > > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana

> > > and Shukla

> > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,

> > > Mitra and

> > > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can

> > > perform the

> > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta

> > > Madhaveeya says

> > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in

transit in

> > > 6th or

> > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also

> > > should have

> > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from

> > their

> > > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his

> > Father's

> > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder

> brother or

> > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be

> > > occupied by

> > > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is

> > > ok.Budha

> > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or

> > > Trikona

> > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per

> > Prayoga

> > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It

> > > aslo says,

> > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.

> > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:

> > > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,

> > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze,

> > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,

> > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.

> > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|

> > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe|

> > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|

> > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||

> > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th

> > > year,for

> > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the

> > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is

> good for

> > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and

Mesha

> > > months

> > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For

> > Brahmins,Vasanta

> > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas

> > > Sharadrutu is

> > > > advisible.

> > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> > > >

> > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae

> > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.

> > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>

> > > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.

> > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito

> > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||

> > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù

> > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing

> > > Upavita ,the

> > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru

> > > should be in

> > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,

Chandra

> > > should

> > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in

> > > 6-11-3 are

> > > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is

also not

> > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.

> > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna

> > > Kendra :

> > > >

> > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,

> > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.

> > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca

> prayacchanti

> > > > nrubhyaù|

> > > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà

> tat||

> > > >

> > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a

> > > poet.If Guru

> > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra

> > makes a

> > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in

> > Kendra

> > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna

> > > Kendra,the

> > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If

> > > Ravi is in

> > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental

> > organisation.Kuja in a

> > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to

weapons

> > > and if

> > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people

> > > or low

> > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta

Lagna,

> > > then

> > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we

> > > have to

> > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta

> > > Lagna.

> > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited

> > and for

> > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like

> > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,

> > Ganda and

> > > > Atiganda are prohibited.

> > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> > > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during

which

> > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get

nullified.

> > > >

> > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE

> > keNÔenukªla> pre,

> > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,

> > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.

> > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye

> > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.

> > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|

> > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|

> > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|

> > > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||

> > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye

> > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||

> > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe

> > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna

Kendra,Ravi in

> > > 11th

> > > > from Muhurta Lagna.

> > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru

> > > and Budha

> > > > in Kendra in a good house.

> > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and

> Guru in

> > > > strength in Kendra.

> > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in

> > Lagna.

> > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and

Chandra in

> > > Kataka

> > > > Rashi.

> > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka

> > > Vargothamamsha

> > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.

> > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in

> > Meena

> > > > Rashi.

> > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :

> > > >

> > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,

> > > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|

> > > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya

> > > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are

> > > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis

> > > are Gala

> > > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya

> > > Tithis are

> > > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half

> > day is

> > > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all

> > > Anadhyaya

> > > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.

> > > >

> > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th

> and 13th

> > > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta

> > > available

> > > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna

> > > Paksha can

> > > > be considered.

> > > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana

> > > Muhurtas.Let us go

> > > > through them also.

> > > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra

> > having

> > > > Shubha Navamsha.

> > > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and

> > malefics in

> > > > 11th house.

> > > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and

Guru in

> > > Kendra

> > > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.

> > > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.

> > > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and

> > > Kuja in

> > > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.

> > > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic

> > planets

> > > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with

Guru in

> > > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.

> > > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in

> 3-6-11.

> > > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's

> > > aspect,Guru in

> > > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.

> > > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting

> > > Chandra,Ravi in

> > > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.

> > > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient

> > > Classics on

> > > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]

> > > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM

> > > > varahamihira

> > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste

> > > >

> > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter

should be

> > > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in

6th/8th/12th.

> > > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.

> > > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be

in 2nd

> > > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is

> > > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon

should

> > > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars.

> > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and

> Moon

> > > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th

house

> > > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th.

> 5th may

> > > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be

because it

> > > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once

> you said

> > > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava

> should be

> > > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies.

> > > >

> > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date

I am

> > > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on

> > > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to

> be most

> > > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in

parivartan

> > > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well.

> The Moon

> > > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only

> > > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in

> > > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in

> previous

> > > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next

> > > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.

> > > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do

> somethingg to

> > > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > >

> > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> > > > > Dear Prabodh

> > > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the

Muhurta

> > > > Book. Does

> > > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya

> > > > arambha? Should

> > > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am

> copying

> > > > this to

> > > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> > > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr

> Raman

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

> > > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

> +91.6752.226269

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sanjay

> > > >

> > > > ji Namste

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days

there are

> > > > many who

> > > > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is

> > > > concerned

> > > > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam?

> > Should we

> > > > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and

> place

> > > > as 2 or

> > > > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person

> > > > becomes Dwija.

> > > > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and

> > > karak for

> > > > > second birth?

> > > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as

well. I am

> > > > thinking

> > > > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will

> prefer

> > > > a lagna

> > > > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or

D-24.

> > > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place

for this

> > > > it would

> > > > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard

> > work and

> > > > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > > >

> > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > >

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Dear Guruji and Jyotishas,

 

Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen for

upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to Hora of the

event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded by the 5th lord).

 

Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit Moon's Tara be counted from

weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?.

 

I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance.

 

Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th lord

Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at Muhurtha.

Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty.

Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or moon

 

next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc

 

 

Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P.

 

Om Tat Sat

 

 

varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote:

> om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

>

> Dear Ramdas ji

>

> Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and other

factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be considered. In

fact the planets should be having some link to the third from the

lagna for proper transmission of the Guru Upadesa. However I agree wit

your point about a change of date. However if Prabodh cannot change it

then Abhijit Muhurta is the only way out.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Web Pages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com

>

> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: <http://.org/>

http://.org

>

> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

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>

> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]

> Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM

> varahamihira

> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

>

>

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

>

> Dear Chi.Hari,

>

> You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord " .Do you mean to say,the

natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it is not

possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu Lagna and Kumbha

Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani respectively.Then we can not

perform the Upanayana or any other important auspicious Samskaras on

these mentioned days.

>

> I hope this helps you.

>

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

>

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

>

>

> onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:

>

>

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Jyotisa,

>

> Can we distill these rules to:

>

> OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru-

> upadesa)

> TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty.

> SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong.

>

> Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas Rao.

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao "

> wrote:

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,

> > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta

> Padavi,

> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.

> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :

> > jNmBdat! sÃmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p

> > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye,

> > te r<Ø jNmc<à " at! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<

> > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.

> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,

> > %pnItaE iÖje<à " a[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.

> > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaÃ

> sannanadhyäyo

> > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|

> > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraÃ

> > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||

> > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|

> > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||

> >

> > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th

> year.Some have

> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be

> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th

> year,then

> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,

> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best

> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and

> Revathi are

> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (

> Astangata

> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more

> important.According to

> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be

> transitting over

> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta

> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's

> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana

> and Shukla

> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,

> Mitra and

> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can

> perform the

> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta

> Madhaveeya says

> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit

> in 6th or

> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also

> should have

> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from

> their

> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his

> Father's

> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother

> or

> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be

> occupied by

> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is

> ok.Budha

> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or

> Trikona

> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per

> Prayoga

> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It

> aslo says,

> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.

> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:

> > ivà SyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃme,

> > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze,

> > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,

> > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.

> > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|

> > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe|

> > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà |

> > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||

> > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th

> year,for

> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the

> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good

> for

> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and

> Mesha months

> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For

> Brahmins,Vasanta

> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas

> Sharadrutu is

> > advisible.

> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> >

> > ktuRjRNm¢uha�nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae

> > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<à " ma>.

> > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aà " 'te c<à " j>

> > zu³SsÃMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÃ`ve.

> > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito

> > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||

> > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù

> > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||

> >

> > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing

> Upavita ,the

> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru

> should be in

> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,

> Chandra should

> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6-

> 11-3 are

> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not

> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.

> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna

> Kendra :

> >

> > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNà " e zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í à yCD,

> > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÃ`'t< tt!.

> > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäà çca

> prayacchanti

> > nrubhyaù|

> > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram

yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaÃ

> tat||

> >

> > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a

> poet.If Guru

> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra

> makes a

> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in

> Kendra

> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna

> Kendra,the

> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If

> Ravi is in

> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental

> organisation.Kuja in a

> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to

> weapons and if

> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people

> or low

> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta

> Lagna, then

> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we

> have to

> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta

> Lagna.

> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited

> and for

> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like

> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,

> Ganda and

> > Atiganda are prohibited.

> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during

> which

> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get

> nullified.

> >

> > keNà " e devguraE Éve idnkre keNà " e zuÉa

> > l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE keNà " enukªla> pre,

> > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNà " e iÇkae[e blI,

> > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.

> > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<à " e;u vI[aedye

> > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja

> > oe

> > yaegaSsÃÃœu[aimhaepnyne à ae´a zuÉaiSsiÃda>.

> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäà çasthite|

> > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|

> > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|

> > saumyäà çeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||

> > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye

> > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaà çeñu çukrendvinä||

> > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe

> > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||

> >

> > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi

> in 11th

> > from Muhurta Lagna.

> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru

> and Budha

> > in Kendra in a good house.

> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru

> in

> > strength in Kendra.

> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in

> Lagna.

> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra

> in Kataka

> > Rashi.

> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka

> Vargothamamsha

> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.

> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in

> Meena

> > Rashi.

> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :

> >

> > ³...:[e à dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,

> > Ã aKs

> > kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|

> > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||

> >

> > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya

> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are

> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis

> are Gala

> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya

> Tithis are

> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half

> day is

> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all

> Anadhyaya

> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.

> >

> > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and

> 13th

> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta

> available

> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna

> Paksha can

> > be considered.

> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana

> Muhurtas.Let us go

> > through them also.

> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra

> having

> > Shubha Navamsha.

> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and

> malefics in

> > 11th house.

> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru

> in Kendra

> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.

> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.

> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and

> Kuja in

> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.

> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic

> planets

> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru

> in

> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.

> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-

> 11.

> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's

> aspect,Guru in

> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.

> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting

> Chandra,Ravi in

> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.

> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient

> Classics on

> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]

> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM

> > varahamihira

> > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sanjay ji Namste

> >

> > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should

> be

> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in

> 6th/8th/12th.

> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.

> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in

> 2nd

> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is

> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon

> should

> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars.

> > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and

> Moon

> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th

> house

> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th

> may

> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because

> it

> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you

> said

> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should

> be

> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies.

> >

> > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am

> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on

> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be

> most

> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in

> parivartan

> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The

> Moon

> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only

> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in

> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in

> previous

> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next

> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.

> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg

> to

> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande

> > Jai Jai Shankar

> > Har Har Shankar

> >

> >

> > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath "

> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> > > Dear Prabodh

> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta

> > Book. Does

> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya

> > arambha? Should

> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am

> copying

> > this to

> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr

> Raman

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sanjay Rath

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sanjay

> >

> > ji Namste

> > >

> > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there

> are

> > many who

> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is

> > concerned

> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam?

> Should we

> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and

> place

> > as 2 or

> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person

> > becomes Dwija.

> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and

> karak for

> > > second birth?

> > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I

> am

> > thinking

> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will

> prefer

> > a lagna

> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-

> 24.

> > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for

> this

> > it would

> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard

> work and

> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > >

> > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > Har Har Shankar

> > >

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om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

 

Dear Ramdas ji

NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good for the Upanayana of his son.

Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora.

Of you are right in being serious about this muhrta..you are a good brahmin and for the brahmana the Upanayana is the most important sanskara

Best Wishes

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Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:42 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

 

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Sanjay Ji,

Namaste.If I can take the Vara or Hora Lord of 5th house in case of Amol, whose Lagna is Dhanu, then we will be going against Muhurta Principles as 5th lord becomes Kuja.Kuja Vara and Shani Vara are taboo for Upanayana Muhurta.So in this case I feel the exaltation sign of Lagna lord Guru ie., Kataka lord's Hora ( Chandra Hora seems to be good.) Anyhow I am still working on both children's Muhurtas.Why I am taking too much care in this case as after Upanayana ,the Vatu gets rebirth and then only he be called as Dwija.After this ceremony, the spiritual growth,knowledge,Educational matters, prosperity in all fields will have a bearing on the native.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

om namo bhagavate väsudeväyaDear SanjayYes. It can take care of 50% of flaws in the muhurta if the vara or hora of the mantresa is chosenBest WishesSanjay RathWeb Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269||sanjaychettiar [sanjaychettiar] |Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:52 AM|varahamihira ||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|||||| Om Gurave Namah |||Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, || Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen |for upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to |Hora of the event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded |by the 5th lord).|| Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit Moon's Tara be counted |from weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?.|| I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance.||Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th |lord Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at Muhurtha.|Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty. |Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or moon| | next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc| ||Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions.||Warm Regards|Sanjay P.||Om Tat Sat| ||varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:|> om namo bhagavate vÄÂÂsudevÄÂÂya|> |> Dear Ramdas ji|> |> Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and other|factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be |considered. In fact the planets should be having some link to |the third from the lagna for proper transmission of the Guru |Upadesa. However I agree wit your point about a change of |date. However if Prabodh cannot change it then Abhijit Muhurta |is the only way out.|> |> Best Wishes|> |> Sanjay Rath|> |> Web Pages: http://srath.com|> |> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: |http://.org |> |> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269|> |> |> |> |> |> |> _____|> |> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]|> Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM|> varahamihira |> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> |> |> |> ` nmae naray[ay,|> |> om namo näräyaëäya||> |> Dear Chi.Hari,|> |> You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord ".Do you mean to say,the|natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it |is not possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu |Lagna and Kumbha Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani |respectively.Then we can not perform the Upanayana or any |other important auspicious Samskaras on these mentioned days.|> |> I hope this helps you.|> |> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> |> Ramadas Rao.|> |> |> |> |> onlyhari wrote: |> |> |> |> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|||> |> Dear Jyotisa,|> |> Can we distill these rules to:|> |> OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru-|> upadesa)|> TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty.|> SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong.|> |> Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas Rao.|> |> regards|> Hari|> |> varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" |> wrote:|> > ` nmae naray[ay,|> > om namo näräyaëäya||> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about |> > Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta|> Padavi,|> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.|> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :|> > jNmBdat! sÃÂÂmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p|> > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, te r<Ø |jNmc<Ã"at! guérip |> > shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma |> > va.|> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,|> > %pnItaE iÖje<Ã"a[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.|> > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaÃ|> sannanadhyäyo|> > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| te randhra |> > janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà kruñëaù |> > pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| atyäpadi |> > navame daçame vä kuryät| upanétau dvijendräëäm |añöamobdaù |> > çubho mataù|||> > |> > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th|> year.Some have|> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be |> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th|> year,then|> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, |> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are |the best |> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and|> Revathi are|> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (|> Astangata|> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more|> important.According to|> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be|> transitting over|> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta|> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's|> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana|> and Shukla|> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,|> Mitra and|> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can|> perform the|> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta|> Madhaveeya says|> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit|> in 6th or|> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also|> should have|> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from|> their|> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his|> Father's|> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother|> or|> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be|> occupied by|> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is|> ok.Budha|> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or|> Trikona|> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per|> Prayoga|> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It|> aslo says,|> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.|> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:|> > ivà SyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃÂÂme, rajNySy |ctuiÉRrÇ sihte |> > vEZySy tu Öadze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, |> > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.|> > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| |> > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| süryo |> > gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà | çreñöaà |> > meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| |Meaning for |> > a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th|> year,for|> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the |> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good|> for|> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and|> Mesha months|> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For|> Brahmins,Vasanta|> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas|> Sharadrutu is|> > advisible.|> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > |> > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃÂÂ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) |suÿ't! praÉv |> > irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ã"ma>.|> > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÃ"'te c<Ã"j> zu³SsÃÂÂMtaeNy |> > raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÃ`ve.|> > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito jévo |> > riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| |> > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù |> > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|||> > |> > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing|> Upavita ,the|> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru|> should be in|> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,|> Chandra should|> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6-|> 11-3 are|> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is |also not |> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.|> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna|> Kendra :|> > |> > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÃ"e zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í à yCD, gu[sy |> > SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÃ`'t< tt!.|> > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäà çca|> prayacchanti|> > nrubhyaù||> > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram|yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà |> tat|||> > |> > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a|> poet.If Guru|> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra|> makes a|> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in|> Kendra|> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna|> Kendra,the|> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If|> Ravi is in|> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental|> organisation.Kuja in a|> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to|> weapons and if|> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people|> or low|> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta|> Lagna, then|> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we|> have to|> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta|> Lagna.|> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited|> and for|> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like |> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,|> Ganda and|> > Atiganda are prohibited.|> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during|> which|> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get|> nullified.|> > |> > keNÃ"e devguraE Éve idnkre keNÃ"e zuÉa l¶awaRnujge istae |> > guébuxaE keNÃ"enukªla> pre, Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÃ"e |> > iÇkae[e blI, saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.|> > gaeme;e<ÃÅ ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ã"e;u vI[aedye |mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja oe |> > yaegaSsÃÂÂÃœu[aimhaepnyne à ae´a zuÉaiSsiÃÂÂda>.|> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäà çasthite| |> > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| |> > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| saumyäà |> > çeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| |> > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye |> > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaà çeñu çukrendvinä|| |> > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe |> > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|||> > |> > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi|> in 11th|> > from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru|> and Budha|> > in Kendra in a good house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru|> in|> > strength in Kendra.|> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in|> Lagna.|> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra|> in Kataka|> > Rashi.|> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka|> Vargothamamsha|> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.|> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in|> Meena|> > Rashi.|> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :|> > |> > ³...:[e à dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, à aKs kruñëe |> > pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| |präksandhyä garjite |> > neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|||> > |> > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya |> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are |> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis|> are Gala|> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya|> Tithis are|> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half|> day is|> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all|> Anadhyaya|> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.|> > |> > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and|> 13th|> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta|> available|> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna|> Paksha can|> > be considered.|> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana|> Muhurtas.Let us go|> > through them also.|> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra|> having|> > Shubha Navamsha.|> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and|> malefics in|> > 11th house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru|> in Kendra|> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.|> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and|> Kuja in|> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.|> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic|> planets|> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru|> in|> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.|> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-|> 11.|> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's|> aspect,Guru in|> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.|> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting|> Chandra,Ravi in|> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.|> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient|> Classics on|> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.|> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> > Ramadas Rao.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]|> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM|> > varahamihira |> > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > Dear Sanjay ji Namste|> > |> > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should|> be|> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in|> 6th/8th/12th.|> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.|> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in|> 2nd|> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is |> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon|> should|> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. |> > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and|> Moon|> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th|> house|> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th|> may|> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because|> it|> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you|> said|> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should|> be|> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. |> > |> > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said |date I am |> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on|> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be|> most|> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in|> parivartan|> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The|> Moon|> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only |> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in |> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in|> previous|> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next |> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.|> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg|> to|> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?|> > |> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > |> > Prabodh Vekhande|> > Jai Jai Shankar|> > Har Har Shankar|> > |> > |> > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" |> wrote:|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya|> > > Dear Prabodh|> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta|> > Book. Does|> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya|> > arambha? Should|> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am|> copying|> > this to|> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.|> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr|> Raman|> > > Best Wishes|> > > Sanjay Rath|> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC |Puri: 212 |> > > Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India|> +91.6752.226269|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > Dear Sanjay|> > |> > ji Namste|> > > |> > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there|> are|> > many who|> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is|> > concerned|> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? |> Should we|> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and|> place|> > as 2 or|> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person|> > becomes Dwija.|> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and|> karak for|> > > second birth? |> > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I|> am|> > thinking|> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will|> prefer|> > a lagna|> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-|> 24. |> > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for|> this|> > it would|> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard|> work and|> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.|> > > |> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > > |> > > Prabodh Vekhande|> > > Jai Jai Shankar|> > > Har Har Shankar|> > > |> > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!|> > > http://uk.messenger.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |Om Tat Sat||> > http://www.varahamihira|> >

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Dear Sanjay Ji,

Please dont feel bad and as I am a Brahmin like many in this list,I consider Upanayana as the most important auspicious event in his life.Now as you said, we can chose the Kuja Hora instead of Kuja Vara but then we also have to see which Muhurta is rising at that time.A Muhurta is of 2 Ghatikas or 48 minutes.Similarly which Nadika also rises during that Hora is also has to be considered.Nadika is Half of 1 Muhurta or 24 Minutes or 1 Ghatika.So if Muhurtas and Nadikas are bad during such a Kuja Hora, then there is no other way and only to discard such Muhurta.

Anyhow we are learning many things during fixing of such Auspicious Muhurtas.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

 

 

Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:  om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

 

Dear Ramdas ji

NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good for the Upanayana of his son.

Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora.

Of you are right in being serious about this muhrta..you are a good brahmin and for the brahmana the Upanayana is the most important sanskara

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

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Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:42 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

 

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Dear Sanjay Ji,

Namaste.If I can take the Vara or Hora Lord of 5th house in case of Amol, whose Lagna is Dhanu, then we will be going against Muhurta Principles as 5th lord becomes Kuja.Kuja Vara and Shani Vara are taboo for Upanayana Muhurta.So in this case I feel the exaltation sign of Lagna lord Guru ie., Kataka lord's Hora ( Chandra Hora seems to be good.) Anyhow I am still working on both children's Muhurtas.Why I am taking too much care in this case as after Upanayana ,the Vatu gets rebirth and then only he be called as Dwija.After this ceremony, the spiritual growth,knowledge,Educational matters, prosperity in all fields will have a bearing on the native.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

om namo bhagavate väsudeväyaDear SanjayYes. It can take care of 50% of flaws in the muhurta if the vara or hora of the mantresa is chosenBest WishesSanjay RathWeb Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269||sanjaychettiar [sanjaychettiar] |Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:52 AM|varahamihira ||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|||||| Om Gurave Namah |||Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, || Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen |for upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to |Hora of the event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded |by the 5th lord).|| Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit

Moon's Tara be counted |from weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?.|| I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance.||Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th |lord Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at Muhurtha.|Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty. |Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or moon| | next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc| ||Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions.||Warm Regards|Sanjay P.||Om Tat Sat| ||varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:|> om namo bhagavate vÄÂÂsudevÄÂÂya|> |> Dear Ramdas ji|> |> Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and other|factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be |considered. In fact the planets should be having some link

to |the third from the lagna for proper transmission of the Guru |Upadesa. However I agree wit your point about a change of |date. However if Prabodh cannot change it then Abhijit Muhurta |is the only way out.|> |> Best Wishes|> |> Sanjay Rath|> |> Web Pages: http://srath.com|> |> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: |http://.org |> |> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269|> |> |> |> |> |> |> _____|> |> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]|> Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM|> varahamihira |> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> |> |> |> ` nmae naray[ay,|> |> om namo näräyaëäya||> |> Dear Chi.Hari,|>

|> You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord ".Do you mean to say,the|natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it |is not possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu |Lagna and Kumbha Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani |respectively.Then we can not perform the Upanayana or any |other important auspicious Samskaras on these mentioned days.|> |> I hope this helps you.|> |> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> |> Ramadas Rao.|> |> |> |> |> onlyhari wrote: |> |> |> |> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|||> |> Dear Jyotisa,|> |> Can we distill these rules to:|> |> OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru-|> upadesa)|> TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty.|> SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong.|> |>

Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas Rao.|> |> regards|> Hari|> |> varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" |> wrote:|> > ` nmae naray[ay,|> > om namo näräyaëäya||> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about |> > Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta|> Padavi,|> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.|> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :|> > jNmBdat! sÃÂÂmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p|> > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, te r<Ø |jNmc<Ã"at! guérip |> > shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma |> > va.|> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,|> > %pnItaE iÖje<Ã"a[a<

AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.|> > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaÃ|> sannanadhyäyo|> > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| te randhra |> > janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà kruñëaù |> > pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| atyäpadi |> > navame daçame vä kuryät| upanétau dvijendräëäm |añöamobdaù |> > çubho mataù|||> > |> > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th|> year.Some have|> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be |> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not

good.After 8th|> year,then|> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, |> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are |the best |> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and|> Revathi are|> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (|> Astangata|> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more|> important.According to|> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be|> transitting over|> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta|> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's|> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana|> and Shukla|> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,|> Mitra and|> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can|> perform

the|> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta|> Madhaveeya says|> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit|> in 6th or|> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also|> should have|> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from|> their|> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his|> Father's|> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother|> or|> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be|> occupied by|> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is|> ok.Budha|> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or|> Trikona|> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per|> Prayoga|> > Parijata,

the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It|> aslo says,|> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.|> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:|> > ivà SyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃÂÂme, rajNySy |ctuiÉRrÇ sihte |> > vEZySy tu Öadze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, |> > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.|> > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| |> > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| süryo |> > gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà | çreñöaà |> > meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme

çaradanyayoù|| |Meaning for |> > a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th|> year,for|> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the |> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good|> for|> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and|> Mesha months|> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For|> Brahmins,Vasanta|> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas|> Sharadrutu is|> > advisible.|> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > |> > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃÂÂ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) |suÿ't! praÉv |> > irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ã"ma>.|> > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÃ"'te

c<Ã"j> zu³SsÃÂÂMtaeNy |> > raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÃ`ve.|> > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito jévo |> > riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| |> > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù |> > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|||> > |> > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing|> Upavita ,the|> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru|> should be in|> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,|> Chandra should|> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in

6-|> 11-3 are|> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is |also not |> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.|> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna|> Kendra :|> > |> > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÃ"e zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í à yCD, gu[sy |> > SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÃ`'t< tt!.|> > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäà çca|> prayacchanti|> > nrubhyaù||> > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram|yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà |> tat|||> > |> > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a|> poet.If Guru|> > is in same position, he will be

respected by all,Budha in Kendra|> makes a|> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in|> Kendra|> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna|> Kendra,the|> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If|> Ravi is in|> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental|> organisation.Kuja in a|> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to|> weapons and if|> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people|> or low|> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta|> Lagna, then|> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we|> have to|> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta|> Lagna.|> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is

prohibited|> and for|> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like |> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,|> Ganda and|> > Atiganda are prohibited.|> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during|> which|> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get|> nullified.|> > |> > keNÃ"e devguraE Éve idnkre keNÃ"e zuÉa l¶awaRnujge istae |> > guébuxaE keNÃ"enukªla> pre, Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÃ"e |> > iÇkae[e blI, saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.|> > gaeme;e<ÃÅ ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ã"e;u vI[aedye |mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja oe |> > yaegaSsÃÂÂÃœu[aimhaepnyne Ã

ae´a zuÉaiSsiÃÂÂda>.|> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäà çasthite| |> > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| |> > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| saumyäà |> > çeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| |> > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye |> > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaà çeñu çukrendvinä|| |> > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe |> > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|||> > |> > Meaning : 1) Chandra in

Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi|> in 11th|> > from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru|> and Budha|> > in Kendra in a good house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru|> in|> > strength in Kendra.|> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in|> Lagna.|> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra|> in Kataka|> > Rashi.|> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka|> Vargothamamsha|> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.|> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in|> Meena|> > Rashi.|> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :|> > |> > ³...:[e à dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, à aKs

kruñëe |> > pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| |präksandhyä garjite |> > neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|||> > |> > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya |> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are |> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis|> are Gala|> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya|> Tithis are|> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half|> day is|> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all|> Anadhyaya|> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.|> > |> > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and|> 13th|> > Tithis are good.In

case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta|> available|> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna|> Paksha can|> > be considered.|> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana|> Muhurtas.Let us go|> > through them also.|> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra|> having|> > Shubha Navamsha.|> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and|> malefics in|> > 11th house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru|> in Kendra|> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.|> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and|> Kuja in|> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.|> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house (

sign ruling benefic|> planets|> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru|> in|> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.|> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-|> 11.|> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's|> aspect,Guru in|> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.|> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting|> Chandra,Ravi in|> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.|> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient|> Classics on|> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.|> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> > Ramadas Rao.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> >

Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]|> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM|> > varahamihira |> > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > Dear Sanjay ji Namste|> > |> > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should|> be|> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in|> 6th/8th/12th.|> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.|> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in|> 2nd|> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is |> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon|> should|> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. |> > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and|>

Moon|> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th|> house|> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th|> may|> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because|> it|> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you|> said|> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should|> be|> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. |> > |> > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said |date I am |> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on|> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be|> most|> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in|> parivartan|> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The|>

Moon|> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only |> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in |> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in|> previous|> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next |> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.|> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg|> to|> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?|> > |> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > |> > Prabodh Vekhande|> > Jai Jai Shankar|> > Har Har Shankar|> > |> > |> > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" |> wrote:|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya|> > >

Dear Prabodh|> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta|> > Book. Does|> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya|> > arambha? Should|> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am|> copying|> > this to|> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.|> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr|> Raman|> > > Best Wishes|> > > Sanjay Rath|> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC |Puri: 212 |> > > Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India|> +91.6752.226269|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > Dear Sanjay|> > |> > ji Namste|> > > |> > > Thanks

for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there|> are|> > many who|> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is|> > concerned|> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? |> Should we|> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and|> place|> > as 2 or|> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person|> > becomes Dwija.|> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and|> karak for|> > > second birth? |> > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I|> am|> > thinking|> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will|> prefer|> > a lagna|> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-|> 24.

|> > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for|> this|> > it would|> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard|> work and|> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.|> > > |> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > > |> > > Prabodh Vekhande|> > > Jai Jai Shankar|> > > Har Har Shankar|> > > |> > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!|> > > http://uk.messenger.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |Om Tat Sat||> > http://www.varahamihira|> >

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Dear Guruji,

For this contradiction of when the Vara lord becomes inimical to

to Kaarakatwa if Task. I was thinking of getting a Good

Amrita or Siddha Yoga on that Vara day. This will remove the dosha

of the Vara against the Kaaraktva.

For example if Saturn is 5th lord and Saturn is against

the Upanayama Karaka (Jupiter)

Then Search for Siddha Yoga(On Rikta Tithis) or Amrita Yoga

(Poorna Tithi) on Saturday.

This will remove the dosha.

2 out of 5 tithi has chances of removing the Vaara lord dosha.

 

This was my opinion after reading some texts and your teachings.

How much do think this tithi yoga,can it remove the Vaara dosha?.

What is you opinion on this approach?

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

Hari Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...>

wrote:

> om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

>

> Dear Ramdas ji

>

> NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for

marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be

terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always

beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good

for the Upanayana of his son.

>

> Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join

job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora.

>

> Of you are right in being serious about this muhrta..you are a good

brahmin and for the brahmana the Upanayana is the most important

sanskara

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sanjay Rath

>

> Web Pages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com

>

> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: <http://.org/>

http://.org

>

> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

_____

>

> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]

> Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:42 PM

> varahamihira

> RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

>

>

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

>

> Dear Sanjay Ji,

> Namaste.If I can take the Vara or Hora Lord of 5th house in case of

Amol, whose Lagna is Dhanu, then we will be going against Muhurta

Principles as 5th lord becomes Kuja.Kuja Vara and Shani Vara are

taboo for Upanayana Muhurta.So in this case I feel the exaltation

sign of Lagna lord Guru ie., Kataka lord's Hora ( Chandra Hora seems

to be good.) Anyhow I am still working on both children's

Muhurtas.Why I am taking too much care in this case as after

Upanayana ,the Vatu gets rebirth and then only he be called as

Dwija.After this ceremony, the spiritual growth,knowledge,Educational

matters, prosperity in all fields will have a bearing on the native.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> Dear Sanjay

> Yes. It can take care of 50% of flaws in the muhurta if the vara or

hora of the mantresa is chosen

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

> Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269

>

>

>

> |

> |sanjaychettiar@g... [sanjaychettiar@g...]

> |Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:52 AM

> |varahamihira

> ||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

> |

> |

> |

> ||| Om Gurave Namah ||

> |Dear Guruji and Jyotishas,

> |

> | Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen

> |for upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to

> |Hora of the event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded

> |by the 5th lord).

> |

> | Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit Moon's Tara be counted

> |from weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?.

> |

> | I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance.

> |

> |Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th

> |lord Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at

Muhurtha.

> |Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty.

> |Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or

moon

> |

> | next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc

> |

> |

> |Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions.

> |

> |Warm Regards

> |Sanjay P.

> |

> |Om Tat Sat

> |

> |

> |varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " wrote:

> |> om namo bhagavate vÄÂÂsudevÄÂÂya

> |>

> |> Dear Ramdas ji

> |>

> |> Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and

other

> |factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be

> |considered. In fact the planets should be having some link to

> |the third from the lagna for proper transmission of the Guru

> |Upadesa. However I agree wit your point about a change of

> |date. However if Prabodh cannot change it then Abhijit Muhurta

> |is the only way out.

> |>

> |> Best Wishes

> |>

> |> Sanjay Rath

> |>

> |> Web Pages: http://srath.com

> |>

> |> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center:

> |http://.org

> |>

> |> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

+91.6752.226269

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |> _____

> |>

> |> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]

> |> Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM

> |> varahamihira

> |> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |> ` nmae naray[ay,

> |>

> |> om namo nÃÆ'¤rÃÆ'¤yaÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤ya|

> |>

> |> Dear Chi.Hari,

> |>

> |> You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord " .Do you mean to

say,the

> |natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it

> |is not possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu

> |Lagna and Kumbha Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani

> |respectively.Then we can not perform the Upanayana or any

> |other important auspicious Samskaras on these mentioned days.

> |>

> |> I hope this helps you.

> |>

> |> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> |>

> |> Ramadas Rao.

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |> onlyhari wrote:

> |>

> |>

> |>

> |> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

> |>

> |> Dear Jyotisa,

> |>

> |> Can we distill these rules to:

> |>

> |> OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru-

> |> upadesa)

> |> TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty.

> |> SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong.

> |>

> |> Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas

Rao.

> |>

> |> regards

> |> Hari

> |>

> |> varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao "

> |> wrote:

> |> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> |> > om namo nÃÆ'¤rÃÆ'¤yaÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤ya|

> |> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about

> |> > Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta

> |> Padavi,

> |> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.

> |> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :

> |> > jNmBdat! sÃÆ'ÂÂmadaE SÃÆ'¨utmupnyn< p

> |> > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caÃÆ'²me zu³taeNye, te

r<ÃÆ'ËŠ"

> |jNmc<ÃÆ' " at! guÃÆ'©rip

> |> > shje jNmÃÆ'‰acayR r<ÃÆ'ËŠ" < ³...:[> p]

aekRjaÃÆ'¶uiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma

> |> > va.

> |> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,

> |> > %pnItaE iÃÆ'–je<ÃÆ' " a[a< AÃÆ'²maeBd> zuÃÆ'‰

ae mt>.

> |> > janmabdÃÆ'¤t saptamÃÆ'¤dau smrutamupanayanaÃÆ'

paÃÆ'¯came cÃÆ'¤nnabhaÃÆ'

> |> sannanadhyÃÆ'¤yo

> |> > niÃÆ'§ÃÆ'¤rkastapasi phaÃÆ'«ikujau

cÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶ame ÃÆ'§ukratoanye| te randhra

> |> > janmacandrÃÆ'¤t gururapi sahaje

janmabhÃÆ'¤cÃÆ'¤rya randhraÃÆ' kruÃÆ'±ÃÆ'«aÃÆ'¹

> |> > pakÃÆ'±orkajÃÆ'¤srugdinamayanamvÃÆ'¤k

pakÃÆ'±atirmadhyamÃÆ'¤ vÃÆ'¤|| atyÃÆ'¤padi

> |> > navame daÃÆ'§ame vÃÆ'¤ kuryÃÆ'¤t| upanÃÆ'©tau

dvijendrÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤m

> |aÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶amobdaÃÆ'¹

> |> > ÃÆ'§ubho mataÃÆ'¹||

> |> >

> |> > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th

> |> year.Some have

> |> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can

be

> |> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th

> |> year,then

> |> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara,

Hasta,

> |> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are

> |the best

> |> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and

> |> Revathi are

> |> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be

set (

> |> Astangata

> |> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more

> |> important.According to

> |> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be

> |> transitting over

> |> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta

> |> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's

> |> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is

advisible.Uttarayana

> |> and Shukla

> |> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in

Uccha,

> |> Mitra and

> |> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can

> |> perform the

> |> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta

> |> Madhaveeya says

> |> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in

transit

> |> in 6th or

> |> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents

also

> |> should have

> |> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses

from

> |> their

> |> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his

> |> Father's

> |> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder

brother

> |> or

> |> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be

> |> occupied by

> |> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th

is

> |> ok.Budha

> |> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra

or

> |> Trikona

> |> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per

> |> Prayoga

> |> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for

Upanayana.It

> |> aslo says,

> |> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.

> |> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:

> |> > ivÃÆ' SyaiÃÆ'‰iht< iÃÆ'–tIyjnn< v;eR zuÃÆ'â

€°< sÃÆ'ÂÂme, rajNySy

> |ctuiÃÆ'‰RrÃÆ'‡ sihte

> |> > vEZySy tu ÃÆ'–adze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiÃÆ'¯te tdxm<

k...<ÃÆ'‰E[ge mXym<,

> |> > ÃÆ'¯eÃÆ'²< me; H;aiÃÆ'¯te suriÃÆ'‰ge

¢I:me zrdNyyae>.

> |> > viprasyÃÆ'¤bhihitaÃÆ' dvitÃÆ'©yajananaÃÆ'

varÃÆ'±e ÃÆ'§ubhaÃÆ' saptame|

> |> > rÃÆ'¤janyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiÃÆ'§yasya tu

dvÃÆ'¤daÃÆ'§e| sÃÆ'¼ryo

> |> > gomithunÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§rite tadadhamaÃÆ' kumbhaiÃÆ'«age

madhyamaÃÆ' | ÃÆ'§reÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶aÃÆ'

> |> > meÃÆ'±a jhaÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§rite surabhige

grÃÆ'©ÃÆ'±me ÃÆ'§aradanyayoÃÆ'¹||

> |Meaning for

> |> > a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th

> |> year,for

> |> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th

year,the

> |> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is

good

> |> for

> |> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and

> |> Mesha months

> |> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For

> |> Brahmins,Vasanta

> |> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas

> |> Sharadrutu is

> |> > advisible.

> |> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> |> >

> |> > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃÆ'ÂÂ?nagmsut ÃÆ'´IxmR kmRiSwtae

jIvae ir>^)

> |suÃÆ'¿'t! praÃÆ'‰v

> |> > irpUn! mu®vaNygÃÆ'­<ÃÆ' " ma>.

> |> > ³ªraZzÃÆ'‡uÃÆ'‰vanuje;u zuÃÆ'â

€°da ir>^)aÃÆ' " 'te c<ÃÆ' " j> zu³SsÃÆ'ÂÂMtaeNy

> |> > raiz;u crn! ÃÆ'¯eÃÆ'²ae iÃÆ'–tIyaeÃÆ'`ve.

> |> > karturjanmagruhÃÆ'¤ddhnÃÆ'¤gamasuta strÃÆ'©dharma

karmasthito jÃÆ'©vo

> |> > riÃÆ'¹pha suhrut parÃÆ'¤bhava ripÃÆ'¼n

muktvÃÆ'¤nyagaÃÆ'§candramÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹||

> |> >

krÃÆ'¼rÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§ÃÆ'§atrubhavÃÆ'¤nujeÃÆ'±u

ÃÆ'§ubhadÃÆ'¤ riÃÆ'¹phÃÆ'¤drute candrajaÃÆ'¹

> |> > ÃÆ'§ukrassaptamtoanya rÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§iÃÆ'±u caran

ÃÆ'§reÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶o dvitÃÆ'©yodbhave||

> |> >

> |> > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing

> |> Upavita ,the

> |> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru

> |> should be in

> |> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,

> |> Chandra should

> |> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu

in 6-

> |> 11-3 are

> |> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is

> |also not

> |> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.

> |> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in

Lagna

> |> Kendra :

> |> >

> |> > kivTv< guÃÆ'©Tv< buxTv< c keNÃÆ' " e zuÃÆ'‰

aÃÆ'´In! gu[a<ÃÆ'­ ÃÆ' yCD, gu[sy

> |> > SvkIySy dan< n icÃÆ'‡m! ydÃÆ'â

€¡aNyyaedaRnmTyÃÆ'`'t< tt!.

> |> > kavitvaÃÆ' gurutvaÃÆ' budhatvaÃÆ' ca kendre

ÃÆ'§ubhÃÆ'¤strÃÆ'©n guÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤ÃÆ' ÃÆ'§ca

> |> prayacchanti

> |> > nrubhyaÃÆ'¹|

> |> > guÃÆ'«asya svakÃÆ'©yasya dÃÆ'¤naÃÆ' na citram

> |yadatrÃÆ'¤nyayordÃÆ'¤namatyadbhutaÃÆ'

> |> tat||

> |> >

> |> > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a

> |> poet.If Guru

> |> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in

Kendra

> |> makes a

> |> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are

in

> |> Kendra

> |> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna

> |> Kendra,the

> |> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his

career.If

> |> Ravi is in

> |> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental

> |> organisation.Kuja in a

> |> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to

> |> weapons and if

> |> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil

people

> |> or low

> |> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta

> |> Lagna, then

> |> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also

we

> |> have to

> |> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from

Muhurta

> |> Lagna.

> |> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited

> |> and for

> |> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like

> |> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,

> |> Ganda and

> |> > Atiganda are prohibited.

> |> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> |> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during

> |> which

> |> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get

> |> nullified.

> |> >

> |> > keNÃÆ' " e devguraE ÃÆ'‰ve idnkre keNÃÆ' " e zuÃÆ'‰

a l¶awaRnujge istae

> |> > guÃÆ'©buxaE keNÃÆ' " enukªla> pre, Sv]

RSwae½gte yid guÃÆ'©> keNÃÆ' " e

> |> > iÃÆ'‡kae[e blI, saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.

> |> > gaeme;e<ÃÆ'Ã… ¢he;u

zu³idn³...½<ÃÆ' " e;u vI[aedye

> |mIne<ÃÆ'–aSpdme;ja oe

> |> > yaegaSsÃÆ'ÂÂÃÆ'Å“u[aimhaepnyne ÃÆ' ae´a

zuÃÆ'‰aiSsiÃÆ'ÂÂda>.

> |> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre ÃÆ'§ubhÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'

ÃÆ'§asthite|

> |> > lagnÃÆ'¤rthÃÆ'¤nujage sito gurubudhau

kendreanukÃÆ'¼lÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹ pare|

> |> > svarkÃÆ'±asthoccagate yadi guruÃÆ'¹ kendre

trikoÃÆ'«e balÃÆ'©| saumyÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'

> |> > ÃÆ'§eÃÆ'±u vidhau

budhÃÆ'¤rkabhrugujÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹ karmÃÆ'¤ya

lagnasthitÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹||

> |> > gomeÃÆ'±endu graheÃÆ'±u

ÃÆ'§ukradinakruccandreÃÆ'±u vÃÆ'©ÃÆ'«odaye

> |> > mÃÆ'©nendvÃÆ'¤spadameÃÆ'±ajÃÆ'¤ntimamukha

tryaÃÆ' ÃÆ'§eÃÆ'±u ÃÆ'§ukrendvinÃÆ'¤||

> |> > kheantye vÃÆ'¤ vidino bhave tanugataÃÆ'§ÃÆ'§ukro

guruvÃÆ'¤rjhaÃÆ'±e

> |> > yogÃÆ'¤ssaptanruÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤mihopanayane proktÃÆ'¤

ÃÆ'§ubhÃÆ'¤ssiddhidÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹||

> |> >

> |> > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna

Kendra,Ravi

> |> in 11th

> |> > from Muhurta Lagna.

> |> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and

Guru

> |> and Budha

> |> > in Kendra in a good house.

> |> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and

Guru

> |> in

> |> > strength in Kendra.

> |> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra

in

> |> Lagna.

> |> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and

Chandra

> |> in Kataka

> |> > Rashi.

> |> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka

> |> Vargothamamsha

> |> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.

> |> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru

in

> |> Meena

> |> > Rashi.

> |> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :

> |> >

> |> > ³...:[e ÃÆ' dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, ÃÆ' aKs

kruÃÆ'±ÃÆ'«e

> |> > pradoÃÆ'±eanadhyÃÆ'¤ye ÃÆ'§anau

niÃÆ'§ÃÆ'§aparÃÆ'¤hÃÆ'«ake|

> |prÃÆ'¤ksandhyÃÆ'¤ garjite

> |> > neÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶o vratabandho galagrahe||

> |> >

> |> > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna

Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya

> |> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day

are

> |> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi

Tithis

> |> are Gala

> |> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya

> |> Tithis are

> |> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the

half

> |> day is

> |> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are

all

> |> Anadhyaya

> |> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.

> |> >

> |> > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th

and

> |> 13th

> |> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good

Muhurta

> |> available

> |> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna

> |> Paksha can

> |> > be considered.

> |> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana

> |> Muhurtas.Let us go

> |> > through them also.

> |> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and

Chandra

> |> having

> |> > Shubha Navamsha.

> |> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and

> |> malefics in

> |> > 11th house.

> |> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and

Guru

> |> in Kendra

> |> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.

> |> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th

house.

> |> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani

and

> |> Kuja in

> |> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.

> |> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic

> |> planets

> |> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with

Guru

> |> in

> |> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th

house.

> |> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in

3-6-

> |> 11.

> |> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's

> |> aspect,Guru in

> |> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.

> |> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting

> |> Chandra,Ravi in

> |> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.

> |> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient

> |> Classics on

> |> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.

> |> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> |> > Ramadas Rao.

> |> >

> |> >

> |> >

> |> >

> |> >

> |> >

> |> > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]

> |> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM

> |> > varahamihira

> |> > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

> |> >

> |> >

> |> >

> |> >

> |> > Dear Sanjay ji Namste

> |> >

> |> > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter

should

> |> be

> |> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in

> |> 6th/8th/12th.

> |> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have

benefic.

> |> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be

in

> |> 2nd

> |> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna

is

> |> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon

> |> should

> |> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars.

> |> > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna

and

> |> Moon

> |> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th

> |> house

> |> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th.

5th

> |> may

> |> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be

because

> |> it

> |> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once

you

> |> said

> |> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava

should

> |> be

> |> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies.

> |> >

> |> > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said

> |date I am

> |> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on

> |> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to

be

> |> most

> |> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in

> |> parivartan

> |> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well.

The

> |> Moon

> |> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha.

Only

> |> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in

> |> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in

> |> previous

> |> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In

next

> |> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.

> |> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do

somethingg

> |> to

> |> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?

> |> >

> |> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> |> >

> |> > Prabodh Vekhande

> |> > Jai Jai Shankar

> |> > Har Har Shankar

> |> >

> |> >

> |> > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath "

> |> wrote:

> |> > >

> |> > >

> |> > >

> |> > > om namo bhagavate vÃÆ'¤sudevÃÆ'¤ya

> |> > > Dear Prabodh

> |> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the

Muhurta

> |> > Book. Does

> |> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya

> |> > arambha? Should

> |> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am

> |> copying

> |> > this to

> |> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> |> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by

Dr

> |> Raman

> |> > > Best Wishes

> |> > > Sanjay Rath

> |> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC

> |Puri: 212

> |> > > Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

> |> +91.6752.226269

> |> > >

> |> > >

> |> > >

> |> > >

> |> > >

> |> > > Dear Sanjay

> |> >

> |> > ji Namste

> |> > >

> |> > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days

there

> |> are

> |> > many who

> |> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha

is

> |> > concerned

> |> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam?

> |> Should we

> |> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju

and

> |> place

> |> > as 2 or

> |> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person

> |> > becomes Dwija.

> |> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and

> |> karak for

> |> > > second birth?

> |> > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as

well. I

> |> am

> |> > thinking

> |> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will

> |> prefer

> |> > a lagna

> |> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-

> |> 24.

> |> > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for

> |> this

> |> > it would

> |> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard

> |> work and

> |> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.

> |> > >

> |> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> |> > >

> |> > > Prabodh Vekhande

> |> > > Jai Jai Shankar

> |> > > Har Har Shankar

> |> > >

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Om Gurava Namah

 

Dear Guru jis,

 

I am attaching the portion from Narada purana in transliteration.

I also found something interesting in Agni Purana.

 

Ägni Puräëa Ch 121

eteñu ñaösu vijñeyam dhänyaniñkramaëam budhaiù |

devatärämaväpyädipratiñöhodaìmukhe ravau ||53

mithunasthe ravau darçädyädi syäd dvädaçé tithiù

|

sadä tatraiva kartavyam ñayanam cakrapäëinaù ||54

siṃhatauliìgate(3) cärke darçädyadvädaçédvayam |

ädävindrasamuptyänam prabodhaç

ca hareù kramät ||55

 

Does this mean we will have to reject the Dwadashi Day when Sun is in Gemini?

 

On AV, I read in Jyotisharnava

Navanitam that the months transited by the Sun with

zero bindus in that rasi or

the tithes and nakshatra  (in consideration) denoted by the Moon’s

transit in the particular rasi should be avoided.

 

Love,

 

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sanjay Rath [guruji]

Friday, March 04, 2005 8:13

PM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Upanayana

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

Dear Ramdas

ji

He has no

option but to do the Upanayana now.SO it is better to tell him about the

procedure for the Guru shanti so hat he can have this done for the children at

the time of the Upanayana. Sun in Aries will be in Upachaya from their janma

rasi and this can be a good factor. Vakra guru is considered good while the

evil of the retrograde Saturn will not be there. Either way Saturn will be

transiting the janma rasi of either of the sons.

I think it

is better to do the Upanayana for the elder son in April when Saturn is in

Gemini and later for the younge son after Saturn leaves Gemini. Prabodh what do

you say? If you so agree then it will be easy to fix a muhurta for one.

Best Wishes

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Rao [ramadasrao]

Friday, March 04, 2005 1:51

AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Upanayana

 

 

 

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Prabodh,

Now I had gone through your both sons' chart and as the age is

advancing, it is better to conduct Upanayana,otherwise there is no Guru Bala

to both of your sons.The 1st son's Janma Rashi is Kataka ( Punarvasu-4th Pada

) and transit Guru is in 3rd from Kataka now.For your 2nd son,the Janma Rashi

is Mithuna ( Ardra-1st Pada ) and transit Guru is passing over 4th house and

both transits are considered evil.So if you are performing Guru Shanti,then

only you can perform Upanayana for both of your sons.

Please give your feedback.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prabodh Vekhande

<amolmandar wrote:

 

 

Dear Ramdas ji Namste

The function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it.

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

varahamihira ,

Ramadas Rao wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

>

> Dear Prabodh,

>

> Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or

two.Suppose if you postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for

that ?

>

>

>

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

>

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

>

> Prabodh Vekhande wrote:

>

> Dear Ramdas Ji Namste

>

> Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam

> will be performed at Nagpur.

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

> Jai Jai Shankar

> Har Har Shankar

>

> varahamihira ,

Ramadas Rao wrote:

> >

> > ` nmae naray[ay,

> >

> > om namo näräyaëäya|

> >

> > Dear Prabodh,

> >

> > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in

> different places.May I know the names of those places and in which

> place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?

> >

> > I hope this helps you.

> >

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> >

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramdas ji Namste

> >

> > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at

> > proper muhurta.

> > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)

> > Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)

> >

> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.

> >

> > Prabodh Vekhande

> > Jai Jai Shankar

> > Har Har Shankar

> >

> >

> > varahamihira ,

Ramadas Rao wrote:

> > >

> > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > >

> > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > >

> > > Dear Prabodh,

> > >

> > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go

through

> > the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.

> > >

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > >

> > > Ramadas Rao.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste

> > >

> > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all

> > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.

> > >

> > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as

> > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your

information

> > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines.

> > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras

> > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service

> > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.

> > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.

> > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.

> > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.

> > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.

> > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.

> > >

> > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on

> > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur).

It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.

> > > Please correct me if found wrong.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > >

> > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > Har Har Shankar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > varahamihira ,

" Ramadas Rao "

> > > wrote:

> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,

> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|

> > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,

> > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in

Muhurta

> > > Padavi,

> > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.

> > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :

> > > > jNmBdat! sÃmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis

)i[k...jaE caòme

> > zu³taeNye,

> > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<

> > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.

> > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,

> > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.

> > > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà

> sannanadhyäyo

> > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|

> > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya

randhraà

> > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||

> > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|

> > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th

> > > year.Some have

> > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana

can be

> > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After

8th

> > year,then

> > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara,

Hasta,

> > > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are

the

best

> > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha

and

> > Revathi are

> > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not

be set (

> > > Astangata

> > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more

> > > important.According to

> > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be

> > transitting over

> > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta

> > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's

> > > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is

advisible.Uttarayana

> > > and Shukla

> > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in

Uccha,

> > > Mitra and

> > > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one

can

> > > perform the

> > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But

Muhurta

> > > Madhaveeya says

> > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in

transit in

> > > 6th or

> > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents

also

> > > should have

> > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable

houses from

> > their

> > > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or

his

> > Father's

> > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder

> brother or

> > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not

be

> > > occupied by

> > > > Ravi, Kuja and

Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is

> > > ok.Budha

> > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in

Kendra or

> > > Trikona

> > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As

per

> > Prayoga

> > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for

Upanayana.It

> > > aslo says,

> > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all

agreeable.

> > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:

> > > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃme,

> > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze,

> > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,

> > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.

> > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|

> > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe|

> > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|

> > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||

> > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted

at 7th

> > > year,for

> > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th

year,the

> > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana

is

> good for

> > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena

and

Mesha

> > > months

> > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For

> > Brahmins,Vasanta

> > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for

Vaishyas

> > > Sharadrutu is

> > > > advisible.

> > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> > > >

> > > > ktuRjRNm¢uha�nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae

> > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.

> > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>

> > > > zu³SsÃMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.

> > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito

> > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||

> > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù

> > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After

wearing

> > > Upavita ,the

> > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi

Guru

> > > should be in

> > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,

Chandra

> > > should

> > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and

Rahu in

> > > 6-11-3 are

> > > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is

also not

> > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas

also.

> > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets

in Lagna

> > > Kendra :

> > > >

> > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í

àyCD,

> > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.

> > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca

> prayacchanti

> > > > nrubhyaù|

> > > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram

yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà

> tat||

> > > >

> > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu

becomes a

> > > poet.If Guru

> > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in

Kendra

> > makes a

> > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets

are in

> > Kendra

> > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta

Lagna

> > > Kendra,the

> > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his

career.If

> > > Ravi is in

> > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental

> > organisation.Kuja in a

> > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to

weapons

> > > and if

> > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil

people

> > > or low

> > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from

Muhurta

Lagna,

> > > then

> > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye

sight.Also we

> > > have to

> > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from

Muhurta

> > > Lagna.

> > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is

prohibited

> > and for

> > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas

like

> > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula,

Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,

> > Ganda and

> > > > Atiganda are prohibited.

> > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :

> > > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana

during

which

> > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get

nullified.

> > > >

> > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae

guébuxaE

> > keNÔenukªla> pre,

> > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,

> > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.

> > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye

> > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÃÃœu[aimhaepnyne àae´a

zuÉaiSsiÃda>.

> > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|

> > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|

> > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|

> > > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||

> > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye

> > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||

> > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe

> > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna

Kendra,Ravi in

> > > 11th

> > > > from Muhurta Lagna.

> > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd

,and Guru

> > > and Budha

> > > > in Kendra in a good house.

> > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted )

and

> Guru in

> > > > strength in Kendra.

> > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi

in 11th and Shukra in

> > Lagna.

> > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi

in Mesha and

Chandra in

> > > Kataka

> > > > Rashi.

> > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in

Kataka

> > > Vargothamamsha

> > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in

Simha Navamsha.

> > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in

> > Meena

> > > > Rashi.

> > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :

> > > >

> > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,

> > > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|

> > > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||

> > > >

> > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna

Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya

> > > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha

day are

> > > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi

Tithis

> > > are Gala

> > > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and

Amavasya

> > > Tithis are

> > > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these

days,the half

> > day is

> > > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya

are all

> > > Anadhyaya

> > > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.

> > > >

> > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th

> and 13th

> > > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good

Muhurta

> > > available

> > > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna

> > > Paksha can

> > > > be considered.

> > > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana

> > > Muhurtas.Let us go

> > > > through them also.

> > > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and

Chandra

> > having

> > > > Shubha Navamsha.

> > > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses

and

> > malefics in

> > > > 11th house.

> > > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and

Guru in

> > > Kendra

> > > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.

> > > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.

> > > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th,

Shani and

> > > Kuja in

> > > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.

> > > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling

benefic

> > planets

> > > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along

with

Guru in

> > > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th

house.

> > > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics

in

> 3-6-11.

> > > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong

planet's

> > > aspect,Guru in

> > > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.

> > > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting

> > > Chandra,Ravi in

> > > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.

> > > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different

ancient

> > > Classics on

> > > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for

Upanayana.

> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > > Ramadas Rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]

> > > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM

> > > > varahamihira

> > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste

> > > >

> > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter

should be

> > > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in

6th/8th/12th.

> > > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have

benefic.

> > > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not

be

in 2nd

> > > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when

lagna is

> > > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11.

Moon

should

> > > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars.

> > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from

Lagna and

> Moon

> > > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration

4th

house

> > > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or

5th.

> 5th may

> > > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be

because it

> > > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly

once

> you said

> > > > about Muhurta in Nagpur

that as far as possible karya bhava

> should be

> > > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies.

> > > >

> > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said

date

I am

> > > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on

> > > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems

to

> be most

> > > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in

parivartan

> > > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as

well.

> The Moon

> > > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya

navmansha. Only

> > > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke

in

> > > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as

in

> previous

> > > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke.

In next

> > > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.

> > > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do

> somethingg to

> > > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4

axis?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > >

> > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > varahamihira ,

" Sanjay Rath " wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya

> > > > > Dear Prabodh

> > > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in

the

Muhurta

> > > > Book. Does

> > > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and

Vidya

> > > > arambha? Should

> > > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses

respectively? I am

> copying

> > > > this to

> > > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.

> > > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles

given by Dr

> Raman

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org

> > > > > SJC Puri: 212

Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

> +91.6752.226269

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sanjay

> > > >

> > > > ji Namste

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a

days

there are

> > > > many who

> > > > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as

Vivaha is

> > > > concerned

> > > > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about

upanayanam?

> > Should we

> > > > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as

Me/Ju and

> place

> > > > as 2 or

> > > > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the

person

> > > > becomes Dwija.

> > > > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the

house and

> > > karak for

> > > > > second birth?

> > > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons

as

well. I am

> > > > thinking

> > > > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing

I will

> prefer

> > > > a lagna

> > > > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1

and/or

D-24.

> > > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and

place

for this

> > > > it would

> > > > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it

gives hard

> > work and

> > > > > patience which is required for any learning. Please

giude.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

> > > > >

> > > > > Prabodh Vekhande

> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar

> > > > > Har Har Shankar

> > > > >

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om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Chi.Prabodh,

So you will be conducting Guru Shanti Japa with Homam /Havan seperately for 2 children.So 19000 Guru Mantra as per Rig Veda has to be chanted and on the day of Upanayana before you perform this Upanayana perform the Guru Shanti havan by giving 108 Ahutis to Agni Deva ,consisting of sugar,Ashwatta and Chickpeas and final Ahuti with Yellow coloured silk Dhoti.

Now I had gone through various aspects of Muhurta classics and at present Shukra is Astangata or we call as Shukra Moudhya.But Classics like Muhurta Madhaveeyam, Prayoga Parijata say that for Upanayana Shukra Asta is acceptable but there should not be Guru Asta and for conducting marriage Shukra Asta and Guru Asta should not be there at all. Now after taking care of almost main Doshas and their nullifications, for your son Amol,I found 21st April is almost agreeable. Here are the details :

Chi. Amol : Janma Lagna - Dhanu,

Janma Rashi : Kataka, Nakshatra - Punarvasu-4th Pada.

Upanayana Muhurta Lagna : 21/4/2005 between 11:29 and 11:52 AM,Kataka Lagna, Vargothama.

Nakshatra on 21/4/2005 : Uttara Phalguni-Sadhaka Tara

Shukla Paksha - Dwadashi Tithi indicating Yashas

Dhruva Yoga, Balava Karana, Guru Vara ( Thursday ),

Muhurta - Abhijit Lorded by Lord Vishnu,

Nadika - 15th ie., Krittika indicating activities undertaken will lead to success.

Hora - Chandra ( Benefic ).

Now let us see what are the Doshas and nullifications of Doshas :

1) Udayastaih Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th should not be afflicted and here Kataka Lagna is aspected by exalted Kuja ( a malefic planet in nature ).

Exception : As the Lagna is Vargothama,the aspect of malefic planet Kuja ceases.

2) Muhurta Lagna should not be the 8th from Natal Lagna or Chandra.

Exception : If the lords of Natal Rashi and its 8th are the same or friendly or one freindly and the other neutral,then the evil effects of Lagna being of the 8th are removed.

Now let us see any other Doshas are there.Now we know that Guru is Vakra or retrograde and Shukra is Asta.Also Guru (V) is placed in his inimical sign.

NULLIFICATIONS OF THE ABOVE MAJOR DOSHAS :

Guru or Shukra or Budha powerful in a Kendra removes thousands of Doshas in the Muhurta Chart.Here from Kataka Lagna ,Shukra is placed in 10th which becomes a powerful Kendra and in Navamsha also Shukra is placed in Lagna Kendra.

Finally Lagna or Chandra Vargothama removes all possible Doshas.I found the above Muhurta almost good for your 1st son Amol.

 

Now let me come to the Upanayana Muhurta Lagna chart for your 2nd son Mander Kumbha Lagna and Mithuna Janma rashi with Aridra Nakshatra.

Date : 11/5/2005 Between 7-18 and 7-24 AM on Wednesday,Shukla Paksha - Triteeya,Sukarma Yoga,Gara Karana, Mrigashira Nakshatra - Parama Maitra Tara.Muhurta Devatha - Mitra.

Lagna- Vrishabha with Shukra and exalted Chandra in it,Guru and Ketu in 5th,Shani in 3rd in Kataka,Kuja in 10th, Rahu in 11th and Surya with Budha in 12th.

Now let us see what are the Doshas in the above Muhurta Chart:

1) Lagna is under Papa Kartari yoga.

2) Chandra with another Planet.

3) Treta Yugadi

4) Guru is Vakra and in Inimical Rashi.

Now let us see the nullifications of above lot of Doshas :

1) Shukra well placed in Lagna removes thousand Doshas in a Muhurta Chart.

2) Shukra well dignified in Lagna being the Lagna lord removes all possible harmful Doshas.

3) The lord of the Lagna in a Kendra or 11th ( Here Shukra is lord of Lagna ) removes all possible Doshas like fire burns cotton.

4) An exalted planet in Lagna ( Here Chandra ) removes all possible Doshas.

Now in the above Doshas, I have mentioned about Treta Yugadi as a Dosha.Here is a Shloka mentioning about the beginning of different Yugas as having Doshas.:

 

kaitRkzu¬ nvmI vEzao zuÏ ÇutIyka,

ma"³…:[e TVmavSya ïav[e c twa Tvma,

kärtikaçukla navamé vaiçäkha çuddha trutéyakä|

mäghakruñëe tvmävasyä çrävaëe ca tathä tvamä|

The above mentioned days have Doshas while performing Upanayana and we have to avoid such days and if we select such a day,then we have to look for the nullifications as given above.

I have tried many days and finally I arrive at above Upanayana Muhurtas for your both sons.This year Upanayana Muhurtas are very less.

I hope the above Muhurtas will find help to you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas ji NamsteYes, I am aware of that and am doing Guru shanti for both. Accordingto Dharmasindu the 8th year is a Nityakala for the batu andvratabhandahn should be preferably done in either on 8th or 5th. Notmuch of the doshas are attracted in these years. So even though myyounger son has 4th Guru which is considred as bad but by doingregular guru shanti upanayanam can be performed. The purohit as wellhas agreed to this. My elder son has 3rd Guru which again not thatgood but shanti if done we can continue. This is what purohit hasadvised. It is really getting difficult and frustrating as it is notonly a religious function but social and domastic as well. I hope toget good(acceptable to all) muhurta for the function.Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har

Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh,> > Now I had gone through your both sons' chart and as the age isadvancing, it is better to conduct Upanayana,otherwise there is noGuru Bala to both of your sons.The 1st son's Janma Rashi is Kataka (Punarvasu-4th Pada ) and transit Guru is in 3rd from Kataka now.Foryour 2nd son,the Janma Rashi is Mithuna ( Ardra-1st Pada ) and transitGuru is passing over 4th house and both transits are consideredevil.So if you are performing Guru Shanti,then only you can performUpanayana for both of your sons.> > Please give your feedback.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> The

function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or> two.Suppose if you postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for> that ?> > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas Ji Namste> > > > Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam> > will be performed at

Nagpur.> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in> > different places.May I know the names of those places and in which> > place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?> > > > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > >

> > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > > > > > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at> > > proper muhurta.> > > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)> > > Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me gothrough> > > the chart and Muhurta

chart and write back to you.> > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> > > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> > > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > > > > > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> > > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your> information> > > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> > > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service>

> > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> > > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> > > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> > > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> > > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> > > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > > > > > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> > > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.> > > > Please correct me if found wrong.> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > > > > wrote:> > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained inMuhurta> > > > Padavi,> > > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > > > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme> > > zu³taeNye,> > > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.> > > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,> > > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > > >

> janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà> > sannanadhyäyo> > > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> > > > year.Some have> > > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayanacan be> > > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th> > > year,then> > > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara,Hasta,> > > > >

Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the> best> > > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and> > > Revathi are> > > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not beset (> > > > Astangata> > > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more> > > > important.According to> > > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be> > > transitting over> > > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> > > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > > > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi isadvisible.Uttarayana> > > > and Shukla> > > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,> > > > Mitra and> > > > > Moola

Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> > > > perform the> > > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta> > > > Madhaveeya says> > > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in> transit in> > > > 6th or> > > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also> > > > should have> > > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourablehouses from> > > their> > > > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his> > > Father's> > > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder> > brother or> > > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> > > > occupied by> > > > > Ravi, Kuja

and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in8th is> > > > ok.Budha> > > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either inKendra or> > > > Trikona> > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per> > > Prayoga> > > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered forUpanayana.It> > > > aslo says,> > > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.> > > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > > > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà

saptame|> > > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th> > > > year,for> > > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12thyear,the> > > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is> > good for> > > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and> Mesha> > > > months> > > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For> > > Brahmins,Vasanta> > > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> > > > Sharadrutu is> > > >

> advisible.> > > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>> > > > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> > > > Upavita ,the> > > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi

Guru> > > > should be in> > > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,> Chandra> > > > should> > > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in> > > > 6-11-3 are> > > > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is> also not> > > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets inLagna> > > > Kendra :> > > > > > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca> > prayacchanti> > > > > nrubhyaù|> >

> > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà> > tat||> > > > > > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> > > > poet.If Guru> > > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra> > > makes a> > > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in> > > Kendra> > > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna> > > > Kendra,the> > > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as hiscareer.If> > > > Ravi is in> > > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental> > > organisation.Kuja in a> > > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to> weapons> > > >

and if> > > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evilpeople> > > > or low> > > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta> Lagna,> > > > then> > > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eyesight.Also we> > > > have to> > > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas fromMuhurta> > > > Lagna.> > > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited> > > and for> > > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,> > > Ganda and> > > > > Atiganda are prohibited.> > > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > >

> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during> which> > > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get> nullified.> > > > > > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE> > > keNÔenukªla> pre,> > > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > > > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya

lagnasthitäù||> > > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna> Kendra,Ravi in> > > > 11th> > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.> > > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd,and Guru> > > > and Budha> > > > > in Kendra in a good house.> > > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and> > Guru in> > > > > strength in Kendra.> > > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th andShukra in>

> > Lagna.> > > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and> Chandra in> > > > Kataka> > > > > Rashi.> > > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> > > > Vargothamamsha> > > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in11th,Guru in> > > Meena> > > > > Rashi.> > > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > > > > > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > > > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > > > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya> > > >

> Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Grahaday are> > > > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and ChaturdashiTithis> > > > are Gala> > > > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya> > > > Tithis are> > > > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,thehalf> > > day is> > > > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasyaare all> > > > Anadhyaya> > > > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.> > > > > > > > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th> > and 13th> > > > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no goodMuhurta> > > > available> > > > > in Shukla Paksha,then the

2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna> > > > Paksha can> > > > > be considered.> > > > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana> > > > Muhurtas.Let us go> > > > > through them also.> > > > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement andChandra> > > having> > > > > Shubha Navamsha.> > > > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and> > > malefics in> > > > > 11th house.> > > > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and> Guru in> > > > Kendra> > > > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.> > > > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11thhouse.> > > > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or

12th,Shani and> > > > Kuja in> > > > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.> > > > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic> > > planets> > > > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with> Guru in> > > > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8thhouse.> > > > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in> > 3-6-11.> > > > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's> > > > aspect,Guru in> > > > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.> > > > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting> > > > Chandra,Ravi in> > > > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.> > > > > I hope the above explanations culled out

from different ancient> > > > Classics on> > > > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]> > > > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM> > > > > varahamihira > > > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste> > > > > > > > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and

Jupiter> should be> > > > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in> 6th/8th/12th.> > > > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not havebenefic.> > > > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be> in 2nd> > > > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except whenlagna is> > > > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon> should> > > > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and> > Moon> > > > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th> house> > > > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th.> > 5th may> > > > > be because upnayanam is

spiritual learning and 2nd may be> because it> > > > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once> > you said> > > > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava> > should be> > > > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > > > > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date> I am> > > > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on> > > > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to> > be most> > > > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in> parivartan> > > > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well.> > The Moon> > > > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the

Kanyanavmansha. Only> > > > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in> > > > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in> > previous> > > > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke.In next> > > > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.> > > > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do> > somethingg to> > > > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath"

wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya> > > > > > Dear Prabodh> > > > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the> Muhurta> > > > > Book. Does> > > > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya> > > > > arambha? Should> > > > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am> > copying> > > > > this to> > > > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.> > > > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr> > Raman> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > > > Web Pages:

http://srath.com http://.org > > > > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India> > +91.6752.226269> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > > === message truncated ===

 

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Dear Prabodh,

Ok, I will try to get the Muhurta on 11/5/2005.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

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Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas ji NamsteThanks for giving the proper muhurtas for my both sons. I am reallygreatful to you. I may have problem in doing upanayan on two differentdays as there are many social-domastic aspects associated with it.Elders in the family did not approve of it. Please dont take itotherwise but can we get a muhurta for both on the same day. Thanks really for your Time and Astrology.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Chi.Prabodh,> > So you will be conducting Guru Shanti Japa with Homam /Havanseperately for 2 children.So 19000 Guru Mantra as per Rig Veda has tobe chanted and on the day of Upanayana before you

perform thisUpanayana perform the Guru Shanti havan by giving 108 Ahutis to AgniDeva ,consisting of sugar,Ashwatta and Chickpeas and final Ahuti withYellow coloured silk Dhoti.> > Now I had gone through various aspects of Muhurta classics and atpresent Shukra is Astangata or we call as Shukra Moudhya.But Classicslike Muhurta Madhaveeyam, Prayoga Parijata say that for UpanayanaShukra Asta is acceptable but there should not be Guru Asta and forconducting marriage Shukra Asta and Guru Asta should not be there atall. Now after taking care of almost main Doshas and theirnullifications, for your son Amol,I found 21st April is almostagreeable. Here are the details :> > Chi. Amol : Janma Lagna - Dhanu,> > Janma Rashi : Kataka, Nakshatra - Punarvasu-4th Pada.> > Upanayana Muhurta Lagna : 21/4/2005 between 11:29 and 11:52AM,Kataka Lagna, Vargothama.> > Nakshatra on 21/4/2005 :

Uttara Phalguni-Sadhaka Tara> > Shukla Paksha - Dwadashi Tithi indicating Yashas> > Dhruva Yoga, Balava Karana, Guru Vara ( Thursday ),> > Muhurta - Abhijit Lorded by Lord Vishnu,> > Nadika - 15th ie., Krittika indicating activities undertaken willlead to success.> > Hora - Chandra ( Benefic ).> > Now let us see what are the Doshas and nullifications of Doshas :> > 1) Udayastaih Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th should not be afflictedand here Kataka Lagna is aspected by exalted Kuja ( a malefic planetin nature ).> > Exception : As the Lagna is Vargothama,the aspect of malefic planetKuja ceases.> > 2) Muhurta Lagna should not be the 8th from Natal Lagna or Chandra.> > Exception : If the lords of Natal Rashi and its 8th are the same orfriendly or one freindly and the other neutral,then the evil effectsof Lagna being of the 8th

are removed.> > Now let us see any other Doshas are there.Now we know that Guru isVakra or retrograde and Shukra is Asta.Also Guru (V) is placed in hisinimical sign.> > NULLIFICATIONS OF THE ABOVE MAJOR DOSHAS :> > Guru or Shukra or Budha powerful in a Kendra removes thousands ofDoshas in the Muhurta Chart.Here from Kataka Lagna ,Shukra is placedin 10th which becomes a powerful Kendra and in Navamsha also Shukra isplaced in Lagna Kendra.> > Finally Lagna or Chandra Vargothama removes all possible Doshas.Ifound the above Muhurta almost good for your 1st son Amol.> > > > Now let me come to the Upanayana Muhurta Lagna chart for your 2ndson Mander Kumbha Lagna and Mithuna Janma rashi with Aridra Nakshatra.> > Date : 11/5/2005 Between 7-18 and 7-24 AM on Wednesday,Shukla Paksha- Triteeya,Sukarma Yoga,Gara Karana, Mrigashira Nakshatra - ParamaMaitra

Tara.Muhurta Devatha - Mitra.> > Lagna- Vrishabha with Shukra and exalted Chandra in it,Guru and Ketuin 5th,Shani in 3rd in Kataka,Kuja in 10th, Rahu in 11th and Suryawith Budha in 12th.> > Now let us see what are the Doshas in the above Muhurta Chart:> > 1) Lagna is under Papa Kartari yoga.> > 2) Chandra with another Planet.> > 3) Treta Yugadi> > 4) Guru is Vakra and in Inimical Rashi.> > Now let us see the nullifications of above lot of Doshas :> > 1) Shukra well placed in Lagna removes thousand Doshas in a MuhurtaChart.> > 2) Shukra well dignified in Lagna being the Lagna lord removes allpossible harmful Doshas.> > 3) The lord of the Lagna in a Kendra or 11th ( Here Shukra is lordof Lagna ) removes all possible Doshas like fire burns cotton.> > 4) An exalted planet in Lagna ( Here Chandra ) removes all

possibleDoshas.> > Now in the above Doshas, I have mentioned about Treta Yugadi as aDosha.Here is a Shloka mentioning about the beginning of differentYugas as having Doshas.:> > > > kaitRkzu¬ nvmI vEzao zuÏ ÇutIyka,> > ma"³…:[e TVmavSya ïav[e c twa Tvma,> > kärtikaçukla navamé vaiçäkha çuddha trutéyakä|> > mäghakruñëe tvmävasyä çrävaëe ca tathä tvamä|> > The above mentioned days have Doshas while performing Upanayana andwe have to avoid such days and if we select such a day,then we have tolook for the nullifications as given above.> > I have tried many days and finally I arrive at above UpanayanaMuhurtas for your both sons.This year Upanayana Muhurtas are very less.> > I hope the above Muhurtas will find help to you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > Yes, I am aware of that and am doing Guru shanti for both. According> to Dharmasindu the 8th year is a Nityakala for the batu and> vratabhandahn should be preferably done in either on 8th or 5th. Not> much of the doshas are attracted in these years. So even though my> younger son has 4th Guru which is considred as bad but by doing> regular guru shanti upanayanam can be performed. The purohit as well> has agreed to this. My elder son has 3rd Guru which again not that> good but shanti if done we can continue. This is what purohit has> advised. It is really getting difficult and frustrating as it is not> only a

religious function but social and domastic as well. I hope to> get good(acceptable to all) muhurta for the function.> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > Now I had gone through your both sons' chart and as the age is> advancing, it is better to conduct Upanayana,otherwise there is no> Guru Bala to both of your sons.The 1st son's Janma Rashi is Kataka (> Punarvasu-4th Pada ) and transit Guru is in 3rd from Kataka now.For> your 2nd son,the Janma Rashi is Mithuna ( Ardra-1st Pada ) and transit> Guru is passing over 4th house and both transits are considered> evil.So if you are performing Guru

Shanti,then only you can perform> Upanayana for both of your sons.> > > > Please give your feedback.> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > The function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it. > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or> > two.Suppose if you

postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for> > that ?> > > > > > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Ji Namste> > > > > > Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam> > > will be performed at Nagpur.> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > >

> > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > > > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in> > > different places.May I know the names of those places and in which> > > place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?> > > > > > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > > > > > > > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at> > > > proper muhurta.> > > > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)> > > >

Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > > > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go> through> > > > the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.> > > > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > > > >

Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> > > > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > > > > > > > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> > > > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your> > information> > > > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > > > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> > > > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service> > > > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> >

> > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> > > > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> > > > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> > > > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> > > > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > > > > > > > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> > > > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.> > > > > Please correct me if found wrong.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > > > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in> Muhurta> > > > > Padavi,> > > > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > > > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > > > > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme> > > > zu³taeNye,> > > > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > > > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.> > > > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va

k...yaRt!,> > > > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > > > > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà> > > sannanadhyäyo> > > > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > > > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > > > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > > > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > > > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> > > > > year.Some have> > > > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana> can be> > > > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not

good.After 8th> > > > year,then> > > > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara,> Hasta,> > > > > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the> > best> > > > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and> > > > Revathi are> > > > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be> set (> > > > > Astangata> > > > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more> > > > > important.According to> > > > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be> > > > transitting over> > > > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> > > > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > > > > > transit over

10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is> advisible.Uttarayana> > > > > and Shukla> > > > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed inUccha,> > > > > Mitra and> > > > > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> > > > > perform the> > > > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta> > > > > Madhaveeya says> > > > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in> > transit in> > > > > 6th or> > > > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even theparents also> > > > > should have> > > > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable> houses from> > > > their> > > > > > Janma Rashis.Now

Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his> > > > Father's> > > > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder> > > brother or> > > > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> > > > > occupied by> > > > > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in> 8th is> > > > > ok.Budha> > > > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in> Kendra or> > > > > Trikona> > > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays areprohibited.As per> > > > Prayoga> > > > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for> Upanayana.It> > > > > aslo says,> > > > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all

agreeable.> > > > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > > > > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > > > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > > > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > > > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|> > > > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > > > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > > > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conductedat 7th> > > > > year,for> > > > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th>

year,the> > > > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is> > > good for> > > > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and> > Mesha> > > > > months> > > > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For> > > > Brahmins,Vasanta> > > > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> > > > > Sharadrutu is> > > > > > advisible.> > > > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > > > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > > > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>> > > > > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u

crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > > > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > > > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > > > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> > > > > Upavita ,the> > > > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma RashiGuru> > > > > should be in> > > > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,> > Chandra> > > > > should> > > > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani andRahu in> > > > > 6-11-3 are> > >

> > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is> > also not> > > > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > > > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in> Lagna> > > > > Kendra :> > > > > > > > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > > > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > > > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca> > > prayacchanti> > > > > > nrubhyaù|> > > > > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citramyadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà> > > tat||> > > > > > > > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> > >

> > poet.If Guru> > > > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha inKendra> > > > makes a> > > > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planetsare in> > > > Kendra> > > > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in MuhurtaLagna> > > > > Kendra,the> > > > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his> career.If> > > > > Ravi is in> > > > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental> > > > organisation.Kuja in a> > > > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to> > weapons> > > > > and if> > > > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil> people> > > > > or

low> > > > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta> > Lagna,> > > > > then> > > > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye> sight.Also we> > > > > have to> > > > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from> Muhurta> > > > > Lagna.> > > > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta isprohibited> > > > and for> > > > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > > > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,> > > > Ganda and> > > > > > Atiganda are prohibited.> > > > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta

Yogas for Upanayana during> > which> > > > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get> > nullified.> > > > > > > > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istaeguébuxaE> > > > keNÔenukªla> pre,> > > > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > > > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > > > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > > > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´azuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > > > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > > > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > > > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > > > > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau

budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||> > > > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > > > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > > > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > > > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna> > Kendra,Ravi in> > > > > 11th> > > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.> > > > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd> ,and Guru> > > > > and Budha> > > > > > in Kendra in a good house.> > > > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and> > > Guru in> > > > > > strength in

Kendra.> > > > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and> Shukra in> > > > Lagna.> > > > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and> > Chandra in> > > > > Kataka> > > > > > Rashi.> > > > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> > > > > Vargothamamsha> > > > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > > > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in> 11th,Guru in> > > > Meena> > > > > > Rashi.> > > > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > > > > > > > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > > > > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > >

> > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna=== message truncated ===

 

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Dear Sri Ramadas,

 

Pranaams. I agree with you as far as the choice of vara is concerned.

No doubt muhurta is different from natal horoscopy but what Sanjay was

trying to suggest is that if the hora lord at the time of conducting

the upanayana is the lord of the indicated bhava in the natal chart of

the person for whom the upanayana is being performed, then the effects

will be still more auspicious. That is why I had given the opinion of

Kalyanavarma to support Sanjays point.

 

You are absolutely right to exercise a lot of caution in the choice of

a good muhurta for the upanayana of Prabodh's sons as it is very

important for brahmins.

 

regards

Hari

 

varahamihira , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote:

>

> ` nmae naray[ay,

>

> om namo näräyaëäya|

>

> Dear Hari,

>

> I agree with you when we consider a bhava in a natal chart.But for

Upanayana,the Muhurta Classics does not agree with either Tuesday or

Saturday and neither their Horas.You know very well about the meaning

of Uapanayana which is nothing but what we call as Brahmopadesham ie.,

initiation of Gayatri Mantra which is very important to any

Dwija/Kshatriya/Vaishya.

>

> But for marriage, if we conduct marriages on either Tuesday or

Saturday nights, then the Vara Dosha will not be there.Also the

Scholars who wrote Muhurta Classics are of the opinion that if there

are auspicious Vivaha Yogas on any of these 2 days, then also marriage

can be conducted.But they never said about Upanayana.

>

> I hope this helps you.

>

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

>

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

>

> onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote:

>

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Jyotisa,

>

> From Kalyana Varma's Saravali

>

> " The good effects relating to a bhava can be better reaped if an

> enterprise relating to that Bhava is started in an Ascendant ruled by

> the Lord of that Bhava, or, when the Lord thereof is in an Upachaya

> House, or on the week-day, Hora, year, or month ruled by that

> Bhava Lord. The good effects will be 25% by year Lord, 50% by month

> Lord, 75% by Lord of week and 100% by Hora Lord. "

>

> Note the cent percent results ascribed to hora lord. This is in line

> with what Sanjay is saying below.

>

> > > om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya

> > >

> > > Dear Ramdas ji

> > >

> > > NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for

> > marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be

> > terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always

> > beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good

> > for the Upanayana of his son.

> > >

> > > Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join

> > job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora.

>

> regards

> Hari

>

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Dear Prabodh,

Finally I have arrived at the Upanayana Muhurta for your both sons.

 

11.5.2005 –7-23 to 8-04 AM.Shukla Paksha, Triteeya, Treta Yugadi,Sukarma Yoga, Gara Karana,Mrigashira Nakshatra - Maitra Tara,Chandra Hora Muhurta : Mitra,VTN ( Vara Tithi Nakshatra ) Yoga : Siddha Yoga,Avastha- Jaya.

Lagna is Vrishabha with Shukra and Exalted Chandra, Guru and Ketu in 5th, Shani in 3rd in Kataka, Kuja in 10th, Rahu in 11th and Surya, Budha in 12th.

 

CONDITIONS THAT NEUTRALISES A LOT OF DOSHAS :

 

Venus well placed in the Lagna suppresses a thousand evil influences, Mercury a hundred and Jupiter several thousand.

 

Venus well dignified in the Lagna vanquishes all harmful forces.

 

The lord of the Lagna in an angle or the 11th removes all Doshas as fire burns cotton.

 

An exalted planet in the Lagna ( Chandra ) nullifies adverse influences.

Now the Nakshatra on this day matches with both of your sons, Maitra tara and Parama Maitra Tara, the day is also Akshaya Triteeya which is a auspicious day.I suggest to do the Upanayana at the time mentioned above. The Muhurta is of 41 minutes which is very good as mentioned above.By this time you can initiate Gayatri Mantra to both of your sons.

If you find any difficulty in the above Muhurta, let me know.But this is the best Muhurta available on this day and excellent Muhurta during May 2005.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

 

 

Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas ji NamsteHere are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive atproper muhurta.Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh,> > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go throughthe chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> >

Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information> added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service> oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.> Please correct me if found wrong.> > Thanks a

lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > > > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta> Padavi,> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòmezu³taeNye,> > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,> > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà sannanadhyäyo> >

niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> year.Some have> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8thyear,then> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha andRevathi are> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (> Astangata> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is

more> important.According to> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should betransitting over> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana> and Shukla> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,> Mitra and> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> perform the> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta> Madhaveeya says> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in> 6th or> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also> should have> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses fromtheir> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or hisFather's> >

Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother or> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> occupied by> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is> ok.Budha> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or> Trikona> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As perPrayoga> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It> aslo says,> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|> > räjanyasya

caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th> year,for> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good for> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha> months> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.ForBrahmins,Vasanta> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> Sharadrutu is> > advisible.> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te

c<Ôj>> > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||> > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> Upavita ,the> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru> should be in> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra> should> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in> 6-11-3 are> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna> Kendra

:> > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca prayacchanti> > nrubhyaù|> > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat||> > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> poet.If Guru> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendramakes a> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are inKendra> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna> Kendra,the> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If> Ravi is in> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmentalorganisation.Kuja in a> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining

to weapons> and if> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people> or low> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna,> then> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we> have to> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta> Lagna.> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibitedand for> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,Ganda and> > Atiganda are prohibited.> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified.> > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge

istae guébuxaEkeNÔenukªla> pre,> > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||> > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in> 11th> > from Muhurta Lagna.> > 2) Shukra is either in

Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru> and Budha> > in Kendra in a good house.> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru in> > strength in Kendra.> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra inLagna.> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in> Kataka> > Rashi.> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> Vargothamamsha> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru inMeena> > Rashi.> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna

Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis> are Gala> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya> Tithis are> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the halfday is> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all> Anadhyaya> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.> > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta> available> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna> Paksha can> > be considered.> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana> Muhurtas.Let us go> > through them

also.> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandrahaving> > Shubha Navamsha.> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses andmalefics in> > 11th house.> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in> Kendra> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and> Kuja in> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling beneficplanets> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11.> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong

planet's> aspect,Guru in> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting> Chandra,Ravi in> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient> Classics on> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM> > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste> > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should

be> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th.> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and Moon> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th may> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you said> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should be> > empty. This

is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be most> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The Moon> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in previous> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg to> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4

axis?> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya> > > Dear Prabodh> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta> > Book. Does> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya> > arambha? Should> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying> > this to> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman> > > Best Wishes> > > Sanjay Rath> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com

http://.org > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > ji Namste> > > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are> > many who> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is> > concerned> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam?Should we> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place> > as 2 or> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person> > becomes Dwija.> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and> karak for> > > second birth? > > > Actuall I

am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am> > thinking> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer> > a lagna> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this> > it would> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hardwork and> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!> > > http://uk.messenger.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat

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