Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 om namo bhagavate väsudeväya Dear Prabodh Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 Dear Sanjay ji Namste Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija. So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for second birth? Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, There are some online copies of Muhurtha books so this search became easy. Here is what I found on this topic, # In marriage and upanayanam, Roga and Mrityu Panchakas should be avoided. # A day ruled by one's Janma Nakshatra is ordinarily held to be unfavourable for an election. But in regard to nuptials, sacrifices, first feeding, agriculture, upanayanam, coronation, buying lands, learning the alphabet, Janma Nakshatra is favourable without exception # Investiture of Sacred Thread (Upanayanam). - This is a ceremony in which spiritiual instructions are given by authorised persons to give spiritual eye to the boy by which his internal vision is brought closer to the Universal light or God. This ceremony is peculiar to the Hindus. But as the name indicates, any section of the human society, whether Hindu or not, may take advantage of these valuable precepts and begin to give their children the religious instruction most suitable to their countries, castes and traditions, Upanayanam should be performed in the 5th or the 8th year. If this is not possible, the ceremoney should be gone through before the age of 16 In case of Brahmins and 20 to 24 in regard to other sects of the Hindus. The Sun, the Moon and Jupiter represent symbolically the father, mother and life-force. Therefore, the three planets should be well disposed to the ascendant at the timeof Upanayanam. The best season is when the Sun is in his northern course (between Capricorn and Gemini). The lunar months of Magha, Phalguna, Chaitra and Vaisakha are good. The 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th and 13th lunar days in the bright half and the 1st. 2nd and 3rd in the dark half are held to be auspicious. The lunar days to be avoided are 4th, 8th, 9th, 11th, 12th, 14th and Full and New Moon days. Some are of opinion that the 13th is good. Exception: Even the 14th lunar day may be treated as good if the boy is above the prescribed age. --Why is tithi dependant on age? Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday are propitious. Wednesday must be rejected if Mercury Is combust. Sunday is ordinary while Tuesday should be invariably rejected. The following constellations are good: Anuradha, Hasta, Chitta, Swati, Sravana, Dhanishta, Satabhisha, Uttara, Uttarashadha, Uttarabhadra, Revati, Rohini, Mrigasira, Aswini, Punarvasu and Pushyami. Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Virgo, Libra and Aquarius are good. The other signs should be avoided. According to Vasishta and Garga. the 3rd day in the bright half of the month of Chaitra and Vaisakha and the 7th day in the bright half of the lunar months Magha and Phalguna are highly favourable. The Moon must not occupy the 6th, 8lth, or 12th house. Malefics should not be posited in quadrants. The ceremony should take place before noon. The 8th house from the Lagna must be unoccupied. The third house should be fortified by the situation of either malefics or benefics, while the 6th should be devoid of a benefic. Mars and Saturn should be avoided in the 5th. Let Mars and Saturn be avoided in the 2nd from the election chart; as otherwise they will make the boy's intellect dull. Similarly their situation in the 12th should also be avoided. The Moon should always be avoided in Lagna. But, however, if Cancer is the ascendant and the Moon and Jupiter are in conjunction and malefics are in 3, 6 and 11, the evil attached to the situation of the Moon in Lagna becomes neutralised. The following malefic yogas should also be avoided: Spoorjitham. - The Sun in kendra causes this yoga and the result is the destruction of the family. Spuritham. - Mars occupying a kendrs generates this evil yoga and generally proves fatal to the Guru (preceptor) as well as the boy. Rudhitham. - Saturn occupying a kendra produces this evil combination resulting in incurable diseases. Rundhram. - Rahu in a kendra gives rise to this malefic yoga. It proves fatal to the mother. Ugram. - This arises by Ketu's disposition in a kendra. It adversely affects health and education. Besides the above malefic yogas, the Moon should not be affected by Mercury as it leads to the boy's blindness. The Moon should not be in her own Navamsa, nor in that of the Sun or Mars. The following are of course very favourable combinations for Upanayanam: (1) The 6th, 7th or 8th house from the Moon being occupied by a benefic. (2) The Sun or Venus in the 12th, Mercury in the 2nd and Jupiter in a trine or a quadrant. (3) Venus in Lagna. Mercury in the 10th, the Sun tn the 11th and the Moon in a benefic navamsa. (4) When the Lagna is Pisces occupied by Jupiter or Venus with the Sun In the 11th and Mercury in the 10th or 12th house. (6) Gemini rising with Mars in Aries. Venus in Taurus and the Moon in Cancer. Besides This Dr Raman has dedicated a separate chapter on Education. Warm Regards Sanjay P Om tat sat varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Sanjay ji and Prabodh, > > The following is what I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379 > > Love, > Swee > p/s Read in URW Palladio IT fonts. Thanks. > > Upanayana > > 349. Upanayana can be performed even at the 5th year, > since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana) could become well > versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with prosperity. > 350. To the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter would be > beneficent. Upanaya should be performed only at the years ordained therefore > and not at other times. > 351. Upanayana should be performed when Jupiter, Venus > and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible, in order: RgVeda - Jupiter; > YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda - Mercury. > 352. The appropriate seasons for the Upanayana of the 3 > classes of twice born are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and > Spring (Vasanta), taken in the reverse order. In general, the time ordained > for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha. > 355. For Upayana, the most auspicious days are: > Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th, 7th, 11th, 6th, and > 12th. > The other days are of middling effect. > > During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd, 3rd and 5th > days are of middling effect. > The rest are extremely bad. > 356-357. The nakshatras favourable for Upanayana are: Hasta, > Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya), Ardra (Rudra); > Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana, Dhanishtha, > Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini (Abjayoni). > 358. No auspicious rites should be performed in the > following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from the birth nakshatra (janma) is > called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the 18th Samudaya, the 23rd Vinashana and > the 25th Manasa. > 359-360a. The weekdays pertaining to Acarya (Thursday); Saumya > (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious. > The days pertaining to the Sun (Sunday) and > Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining two (Tuesday and Saturday) are > detestable for commencing religious studies. > 360b-361a Divide the daytime into 3. During the 1st part, one > should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd part should be related to > men and during the 3rd part, acts relating to the manes. (Therefore, > Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st part of the day). > 361b-362a If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their > vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy's nakshatra > or an enemy's varga, the student will lose his family status and his > character. > 362b-363a. Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda occupies an > inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a perpetrator of great > sins. > 363b-364a. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their > vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or their rasi > ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely wealthy and > well versed in the Vedas and Sastras. > 365. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda is in > high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the boy will be well versed in the > Vedas and the Sastras. > 366. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or > their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or are in exaltation, > he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth. > 367. It is rare that in the case of the boy, all three, > viz., the week day of the lord of one's Veda, the strength of the lord of > one's Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one's Veda occur > simultaneously. > 368. Thus when the Moon is in the varga of the lord of > the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it is in the varga of an > evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor and constantly > distressed. > 369. When Srvana or Punarvasu prevail, and the Moon is > in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with knowledge of the > Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and wealth. > 370-372. All the saigns (rasis) are commendable if the time for > the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious lagna, in an auspicious > varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear, the lagna, which is not the 8th > house, is occupied or aspected by beneficent planets or by the 5 planets, > Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When they are friendly and strong, or by > the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with positional strength (dig bala).; > or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great blemishes[sC1] <> possible > in a day. > 373. However, only the auspicious Naväàça of the said > signs are to be selected. But the varga of Cancer (karka) can never be > selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent planet. > 374. The vargas of Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and Kanya > are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a > Naväàça selected in the above manner. > 375-376. If evil planets occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th Houses, > beneficent planets are not found in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses; and if the > Moon does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house from the lagna, the boy > takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and always consumptive even > if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th House). > 377. If the Sun is exalted in a Kendra, the student's > parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the above 5 faults is > productive of auspicious results in Upanayana. > 378. The studentship ceremony should not be performed > other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the days of anadhyäya[sC2] > <> , the 6th, nor during Viñöi Karana. > 379. The 8 galagraha days are the 4 days from the 13th, > the 3 days from the 7th and the Krishna Caturthi are declared to be > inauspicious. > > Can someone please confirm from the Sanskrit version? Chandrashekharji, I > can re-send if req. > > Sanjay Rath [guruji@s...] > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM > 'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Upanayana > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > Dear Prabodh > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija. > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for > second birth? > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2005 ... hamsasso.aham .. Dear Jyotishas, The grihya samskaras are multiple day affairs. For example, what follows is the general outline of the upanayana. 1) navagraha yagyam 2) naandimukham 3) udakashaanti 4) a.nkuraarpaNam 5) pratisarabandham 6) upanayanam Are we supposed to fix muhurtas for each of these karmangas? Secondly, even if we consider only the main upanayanam portion, which time is important? Is it (a) the time when the sankalpam for upanayanam is made and water is touched, or (b) the time when the thread is invested, or © the time when the gayatri mantra shakti is imparted? ajit sanjaychettiar [sanjaychettiar] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:50 AM varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Upanayana || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, There are some online copies of Muhurtha books so this search became easy. Here is what I found on this topic, # In marriage and upanayanam, Roga and Mrityu Panchakas should be avoided. # A day ruled by one's Janma Nakshatra is ordinarily held to be unfavourable for an election. But in regard to nuptials, sacrifices, first feeding, agriculture, upanayanam, coronation, buying lands, learning the alphabet, Janma Nakshatra is favourable without exception # Investiture of Sacred Thread (Upanayanam). - This is a ceremony in which spiritiual instructions are given by authorised persons to give spiritual eye to the boy by which his internal vision is brought closer to the Universal light or God. This ceremony is peculiar to the Hindus. But as the name indicates, any section of the human society, whether Hindu or not, may take advantage of these valuable precepts and begin to give their children the religious instruction most suitable to their countries, castes and traditions, Upanayanam should be performed in the 5th or the 8th year. If this is not possible, the ceremoney should be gone through before the age of 16 In case of Brahmins and 20 to 24 in regard to other sects of the Hindus. The Sun, the Moon and Jupiter represent symbolically the father, mother and life-force. Therefore, the three planets should be well disposed to the ascendant at the timeof Upanayanam. The best season is when the Sun is in his northern course (between Capricorn and Gemini). The lunar months of Magha, Phalguna, Chaitra and Vaisakha are good. The 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th and 13th lunar days in the bright half and the 1st. 2nd and 3rd in the dark half are held to be auspicious. The lunar days to be avoided are 4th, 8th, 9th, 11th, 12th, 14th and Full and New Moon days. Some are of opinion that the 13th is good. Exception: Even the 14th lunar day may be treated as good if the boy is above the prescribed age. --Why is tithi dependant on age? Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday are propitious. Wednesday must be rejected if Mercury Is combust. Sunday is ordinary while Tuesday should be invariably rejected. The following constellations are good: Anuradha, Hasta, Chitta, Swati, Sravana, Dhanishta, Satabhisha, Uttara, Uttarashadha, Uttarabhadra, Revati, Rohini, Mrigasira, Aswini, Punarvasu and Pushyami. Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Virgo, Libra and Aquarius are good. The other signs should be avoided. According to Vasishta and Garga. the 3rd day in the bright half of the month of Chaitra and Vaisakha and the 7th day in the bright half of the lunar months Magha and Phalguna are highly favourable. The Moon must not occupy the 6th, 8lth, or 12th house. Malefics should not be posited in quadrants. The ceremony should take place before noon. The 8th house from the Lagna must be unoccupied. The third house should be fortified by the situation of either malefics or benefics, while the 6th should be devoid of a benefic. Mars and Saturn should be avoided in the 5th. Let Mars and Saturn be avoided in the 2nd from the election chart; as otherwise they will make the boy's intellect dull. Similarly their situation in the 12th should also be avoided. The Moon should always be avoided in Lagna. But, however, if Cancer is the ascendant and the Moon and Jupiter are in conjunction and malefics are in 3, 6 and 11, the evil attached to the situation of the Moon in Lagna becomes neutralised. The following malefic yogas should also be avoided: Spoorjitham. - The Sun in kendra causes this yoga and the result is the destruction of the family. Spuritham. - Mars occupying a kendrs generates this evil yoga and generally proves fatal to the Guru (preceptor) as well as the boy. Rudhitham. - Saturn occupying a kendra produces this evil combination resulting in incurable diseases. Rundhram. - Rahu in a kendra gives rise to this malefic yoga. It proves fatal to the mother. Ugram. - This arises by Ketu's disposition in a kendra. It adversely affects health and education. Besides the above malefic yogas, the Moon should not be affected by Mercury as it leads to the boy's blindness. The Moon should not be in her own Navamsa, nor in that of the Sun or Mars. The following are of course very favourable combinations for Upanayanam: (1) The 6th, 7th or 8th house from the Moon being occupied by a benefic. (2) The Sun or Venus in the 12th, Mercury in the 2nd and Jupiter in a trine or a quadrant. (3) Venus in Lagna. Mercury in the 10th, the Sun tn the 11th and the Moon in a benefic navamsa. (4) When the Lagna is Pisces occupied by Jupiter or Venus with the Sun In the 11th and Mercury in the 10th or 12th house. (6) Gemini rising with Mars in Aries. Venus in Taurus and the Moon in Cancer. Besides This Dr Raman has dedicated a separate chapter on Education. Warm Regards Sanjay P Om tat sat varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Sanjay ji and Prabodh, > > The following is what I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379 > > Love, > Swee > p/s Read in URW Palladio IT fonts. Thanks. > > Upanayana > > 349. Upanayana can be performed even at the 5th year, > since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana) could become well > versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with prosperity. > 350. To the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter would be > beneficent. Upanaya should be performed only at the years ordained therefore > and not at other times. > 351. Upanayana should be performed when Jupiter, Venus > and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible, in order: RgVeda - Jupiter; > YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda - Mercury. > 352. The appropriate seasons for the Upanayana of the 3 > classes of twice born are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and > Spring (Vasanta), taken in the reverse order. In general, the time ordained > for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha. > 355. For Upayana, the most auspicious days are: > Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th, 7th, 11th, 6th, and > 12th. > The other days are of middling effect. > > During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd, 3rd and 5th > days are of middling effect. > The rest are extremely bad. > 356-357. The nakshatras favourable for Upanayana are: Hasta, > Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya), Ardra (Rudra); > Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana, Dhanishtha, > Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini (Abjayoni). > 358. No auspicious rites should be performed in the > following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from the birth nakshatra (janma) is > called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the 18th Samudaya, the 23rd Vinashana and > the 25th Manasa. > 359-360a. The weekdays pertaining to Acarya (Thursday); Saumya > (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious. > The days pertaining to the Sun (Sunday) and > Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining two (Tuesday and Saturday) are > detestable for commencing religious studies. > 360b-361a Divide the daytime into 3. During the 1st part, one > should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd part should be related to > men and during the 3rd part, acts relating to the manes. (Therefore, > Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st part of the day). > 361b-362a If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their > vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy's nakshatra > or an enemy's varga, the student will lose his family status and his > character. > 362b-363a. Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda occupies an > inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a perpetrator of great > sins. > 363b-364a. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or their > vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or their rasi > ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely wealthy and > well versed in the Vedas and Sastras. > 365. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda is in > high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the boy will be well versed in the > Vedas and the Sastras. > 366. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one's Veda or > their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or are in exaltation, > he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth. > 367. It is rare that in the case of the boy, all three, > viz., the week day of the lord of one's Veda, the strength of the lord of > one's Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one's Veda occur > simultaneously. > 368. Thus when the Moon is in the varga of the lord of > the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it is in the varga of an > evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor and constantly > distressed. > 369. When Srvana or Punarvasu prevail, and the Moon is > in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with knowledge of the > Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and wealth. > 370-372. All the saigns (rasis) are commendable if the time for > the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious lagna, in an auspicious > varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear, the lagna, which is not the 8th > house, is occupied or aspected by beneficent planets or by the 5 planets, > Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When they are friendly and strong, or by > the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with positional strength (dig bala).; > or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great blemishes[sC1] <> possible > in a day. > 373. However, only the auspicious Naväàça of the said > signs are to be selected. But the varga of Cancer (karka) can never be > selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent planet. > 374. The vargas of Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and Kanya > are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a > Naväàça selected in the above manner. > 375-376. If evil planets occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th Houses, > beneficent planets are not found in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses; and if the > Moon does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house from the lagna, the boy > takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and always consumptive even > if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th House). > 377. If the Sun is exalted in a Kendra, the student's > parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the above 5 faults is > productive of auspicious results in Upanayana. > 378. The studentship ceremony should not be performed > other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the days of anadhyäya[sC2] > <> , the 6th, nor during Viñöi Karana. > 379. The 8 galagraha days are the 4 days from the 13th, > the 3 days from the 7th and the Krishna Caturthi are declared to be > inauspicious. > > Can someone please confirm from the Sanskrit version? Chandrashekharji, I > can re-send if req. > > Sanjay Rath [guruji@s...] > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM > 'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Upanayana > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > Dear Prabodh > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija. > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for > second birth? > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta Padavi, Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p<cme caÚÉ< sÚnXyayae inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va. ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>. janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà sannanadhyäyo niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät| upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù|| Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th year.Some have said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th year,then Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and Revathi are middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set ( Astangata ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more important.According to Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be transitting over 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta Madhaveeyam,even Guru's transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana and Shukla Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, Mitra and Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can perform the Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta Madhaveeya says for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in 6th or 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also should have Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from their Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his Father's Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother or Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be occupied by Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is ok.Budha in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per Prayoga Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It aslo says, Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme, rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà| çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th year,for Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good for Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha months are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For Brahmins,Vasanta Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas Sharadrutu is advisible. Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>. ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj> zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve. karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|| Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing Upavita ,the Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be in 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra should not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6-11-3 are agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna Kendra : kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD<it Üu_y>, gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!. kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca prayacchanti nrubhyaù| guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat|| If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a poet.If Guru is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra makes a Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in Kendra ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna Kendra,the Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If Ravi is in Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental organisation.Kuja in a Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons and if Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people or low caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna, then the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we have to consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta Lagna. As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited and for marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, Ganda and Atiganda are prohibited. Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified. keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa<ziSwte, l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE keNÔenukªla> pre, Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI, saEMya<ze;u ivxaE buxakRæuguja> kmaRy l¶iSwta>. gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja<itmmuo Èy<ze;u zu³e<iÖna. oe<Tye va ividnae Éve tnugtZzu³ae guévaHR;e yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>. kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite| lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä|| kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|| Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in 11th from Muhurta Lagna. 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru and Budha in Kendra in a good house. 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru in strength in Kendra. 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in Lagna. 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in Kataka Rashi. 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka Vargothamamsha and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in Meena Rashi. Now as per Narada Maharshi : ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, àaKs<Xya gijRte neòae ìtb<xae gl¢he. kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|| Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis are Gala Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya Tithis are prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half day is Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all Anadhyaya days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta available in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna Paksha can be considered. Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana Muhurtas.Let us go through them also. 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra having Shubha Navamsha. 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and malefics in 11th house. 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in Kendra or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and Kuja in 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic planets ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house. 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11. 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's aspect,Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona. 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting Chandra,Ravi in 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient Classics on Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana Dear Sanjay ji Namste Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th. Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and Moon and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th may be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you said about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should be empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be most suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The Moon is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in previous lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg to nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > Dear Prabodh > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija. > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for > second birth? > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://uk.messenger. |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2005  om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya Dear Swee, my commets are given below the text of the great devarshi Narada Purana. The Purana has to be interpreted in the light of the Veda and the various other literature in this regard. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 Swee Chan [swee] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:04 PMvarahamihira ; 'Amol Mandar'RE: |Sri Varaha| UpanayanaImportance: High Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji and Prabodh, The following is what I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379 Love, Swee p/s Read in URW Palladio IT fonts. Thanks. Upanayana 349. Upanayana can be performed even at the 5th year, since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana) could become well versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with prosperity.[s.R:] The Purana says 'Can be'and this is not must be nor does it lay down the standard age in here. What is followed is the interpretation of Yajnavalkya andthe ages given are based on the expiry of the sthira dasa period as 7, 8 and 9 years for Vaishya, Kshatriya and Brahmanas respectively. The choise of 5th year is very rare. 350. To the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter would be beneficent. Upanaya should be performed only at the years ordained therefore and not at other times.[s.R:] I think this is a poor translation. What is the translator saying? 351. Upanayana should be performed when Jupiter, Venus and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible, in order: RgVeda - Jupiter; YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda - Mercury.[s.R:] Brahmanas are classified on the basis of the Vedas just as AUM has three rishi's - Gautama, Atri and Bharadwaj. The Upanayana is normally performed by the giving of the Sacred Gayatri mantra of the Rig Veda and what you speak of is the commencement of the learning of the Vedas itself. 352. The appropriate seasons for the Upanayana of the 3 classes of twice born are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and Spring (Vasanta), taken in the reverse order. In general, the time ordained for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha.[s.R:] This is Uttara-ayana in general 355. For Upayana, the most auspicious days are: Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th, 7th, 11th, 6th, and 12th. The other days are of middling effect. During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd, 3rd and 5th days are of middling effect. The rest are extremely bad.[s.R:] No comments. The views are acceptable. 356-357. The nakshatras favourable for Upanayana are: Hasta, Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya), Ardra (Rudra); Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana, Dhanishtha, Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini (Abjayoni).[s.R:] There are other views as well and the views of Narada Purana are very good. 358. No auspicious rites should be performed in the following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from the birth nakshatra (janma) is called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the 18th Samudaya, the 23rd Vinashana and the 25th Manasa.[s.R:] Confirm the Sarvatobhadra based on this i.e. this should be on the basis of 28 star and not 27 star system as the Upanayana is for spiritual purposes. 359-360a. The weekdays pertaining to Acarya (Thursday); Saumya (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious.[s.R:] Poor translation - Acharya is Jupiter hence Thursday; Kavya is for the Kavi Venus and hence Friday (not Mercury for Kavya) and Saumya refers to Mercury and Wednesday. The days pertaining to the Sun (Sunday) and Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining two (Tuesday and Saturday) are detestable for commencing religious studies.[s.R:] Sunday is still fine as the Sun is very spiritual while Saturday is most ignoble for this purpose. Mondays causes the mind to stray while Tuesdays causes too many fights and troubles for health. 360b-361a Divide the daytime into 3. During the 1st part, one should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd part should be related to men and during the 3rd part, acts relating to the manes. (Therefore, Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st part of the day).[s.R:] The division of the day into 6 parts is called RITU and the day portion has 3 rotu and night portion also has 3 ritu. All actions are based on ritu for success as Mercury the karaka of ritu is also the karaka of karma (10th house) 361b-362a If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy’s nakshatra or an enemy’s varga, the student will lose his family status and his character. 362b-363a. Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda occupies an inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a perpetrator of great sins. 363b-364a. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or their rasi ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely wealthy and well versed in the Vedas and Sastras. 365. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda is in high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the boy will be well versed in the Vedas and the Sastras. 366. If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or are in exaltation, he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth. 367. It is rare that in the case of the boy, all three, viz., the week day of the lord of one’s Veda, the strength of the lord of one’s Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one’s Veda occur simultaneously.[s.R:] Worship of ones Vedamurti is desirable. 368. Thus when the Moon is in the varga of the lord of the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it is in the varga of an evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor and constantly distressed. 369. When Srvana or Punarvasu prevail, and the Moon is in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with knowledge of the Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and wealth. 370-372. All the saigns (rasis) are commendable if the time for the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious lagna, in an auspicious varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear, the lagna, which is not the 8th house, is occupied or aspected by beneficent planets or by the 5 planets, Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When they are friendly and strong, or by the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with positional strength (dig bala).; or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great blemishes[sC1] possible in a day.[s.R:] This is the over riding factor over tithi and other things...the Lagna suddhi is vital to any Muhurta. Just ensure that Jupiter or the Veda-graha is strong. 373. However, only the auspicious Naväà ça of the said signs are to be selected. But the varga of Cancer (karka) can never be selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent planet.[s.R:] This is the Brahmana rasi and being the sign of exaltation of Jupiter it is very auspicious for the Vedas. 374. The vargas of Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and Kanya are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a Naväà ça selected in the above manner.[s.R:] These vargas ae also considered very auspicious in the Siddhamsa D24 chart and Vimsamsa D20 chart (natal horoscopy) 375-376. If evil planets occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th Houses, beneficent planets are not found in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses; and if the Moon does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house from the lagna, the boy takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and always consumptive even if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th House).[s.R:] What sort of translation is this? Malefics in Upachaya, Benefics not in dusthana and Moon not in dusthana is BAD!!! Pathetic rendering of such a great Purana. 377. If the Sun is exalted in a Kendra, the student’s parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the above 5 faults is productive of auspicious results in Upanayana.[s.R:] ?? I need to check the sanskrit sloka and this I can do only in March-April when in Puri. If someone can send it now, we can study the sloka. 378. The studentship ceremony should not be performed other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the days of anadhyäya[sC2] , the 6th, nor during Viñöi Karana. 379. The 8 galagraha days are the 4 days from the 13th, the 3 days from the 7th and the Krishna Caturthi are declared to be inauspicious.[s.R:] I think these are the 13, 14, 15 and 1 respectively in Krsna and Sukla Pratipada. I am not sure why astami has been excluded but 7 and 9 are surely not good and Krishna Chaturthi is for leaving the pen not starting any kind of writing. Can someone please confirm from the Sanskrit version? Chandrashekharji, I can re-send if req. Sanjay Rath [guruji] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Upanayana om namo bhagavate väsudeväya Dear Prabodh Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 Dear Sanjay ji Namste Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija. So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for second birth? Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2005 Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required. There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information added I have decided to follow these guidelines. 1) get the benefics in the kendras 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service oriented which is not bad in todays standards. 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed. 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty. 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self. 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic. 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha. With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions. Please correct me if found wrong. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " <ramadasrao> wrote: > ` nmae naray[ay, > om namo näräyaëäya| > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta Padavi, > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p<cme caÚÉ< sÚnXyayae > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va. > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>. > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà sannanadhyäyo > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät| > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù|| > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th year.Some have > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th year,then > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and Revathi are > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set ( Astangata > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more important.According to > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be transitting over > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta Madhaveeyam,even Guru's > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana and Shukla > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, Mitra and > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can perform the > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta Madhaveeya says > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in 6th or > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also should have > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from their > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his Father's > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother or > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be occupied by > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is ok.Budha > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or Trikona > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per Prayoga > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It aslo says, > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme, > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà| > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th year,for > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good for > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha months > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For Brahmins,Vasanta > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas Sharadrutu is > advisible. > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>. > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj> > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve. > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|| > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing Upavita ,the > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be in > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra should > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6-11-3 are > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna Kendra : > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD<it Üu_y>, > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!. > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca prayacchanti > nrubhyaù| > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat|| > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a poet.If Guru > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra makes a > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in Kendra > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna Kendra,the > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If Ravi is in > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental organisation.Kuja in a > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons and if > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people or low > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna, then > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we have to > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta Lagna. > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited and for > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, Ganda and > Atiganda are prohibited. > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified. > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa<ziSwte, > l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE keNÔenukªla> pre, > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI, > saEMya<ze;u ivxaE buxakRæuguja> kmaRy l¶iSwta>. > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja<itmmuo Èy<ze;u zu³e<iÖna. > oe<Tye va ividnae Éve tnugtZzu³ae guévaHR;e > yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>. > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite| > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä|| > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|| > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in 11th > from Muhurta Lagna. > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru and Budha > in Kendra in a good house. > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru in > strength in Kendra. > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in Lagna. > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in Kataka > Rashi. > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka Vargothamamsha > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in Meena > Rashi. > Now as per Narada Maharshi : > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, > àaKs<Xya gijRte neòae ìtb<xae gl¢he. > kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|| > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis are Gala > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya Tithis are > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half day is > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all Anadhyaya > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta available > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna Paksha can > be considered. > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana Muhurtas.Let us go > through them also. > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra having > Shubha Navamsha. > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and malefics in > 11th house. > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in Kendra > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and Kuja in > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic planets > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house. > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11. > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's aspect,Guru in > Lagna Kendra or Trikona. > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting Chandra,Ravi in > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient Classics on > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th. > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and Moon > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th may > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you said > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should be > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be most > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The Moon > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in previous > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg to > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > > Dear Prabodh > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta > Book. Does > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya > arambha? Should > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying > this to > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > ji Namste > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are > many who > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is > concerned > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place > as 2 or > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person > becomes Dwija. > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for > > second birth? > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am > thinking > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer > a lagna > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this > it would > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > http://uk.messenger. |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 27, 2005  Om Gurava Namah Dear Sanjay ji, Thank you for your valuable comments. My assumptions on sloka 350. I think what the translator is trying to say is that it is acceptable for both Venus and Jupiter not to be in strength. Later in the slokas, it is quite clear to find a good muhurata for vivahaprashna, both Venus and Jupiter have to be in strength. The e-book of Narada Purana is from Maharishi’s site. The Purva khanda is 2.4MB in zip format, though Uttara Khnada is half that. Can I still send both to this list? Please let me know. Love, Swee Sanjay Rath [guruji] Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:47 AM varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| Upanayana om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya Dear Swee, my commets are given below the text of the great devarshi Narada Purana. The Purana has to be interpreted in the light of the Veda and the various other literature in this regard. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 Swee Chan [swee] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 5:04 PM varahamihira ; 'Amol Mandar' RE: |Sri Varaha| Upanayana Importance: High Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjay ji and Prabodh, The following is what I've found in Narada Purana II.56.349-379 Love, Swee p/s Read in URW Palladio IT fonts. Thanks. Upanayana 349.                     Upanayana can be performed even at the 5th year, since the boyhood with the sacred thread (maunjibandhana) could become well versed in the Vedas and Sastras and be endowed with prosperity. [s.R:] The Purana says 'Can be'and this is not must be nor does it lay down the standard age in here. What is followed is the interpretation of Yajnavalkya andthe ages given are based on the expiry of the sthira dasa period as 7, 8 and 9 years for Vaishya, Kshatriya and Brahmanas respectively. The choise of 5th year is very rare. 350.                    To the boy, even a weak Venus or Jupiter would be beneficent. Upanaya should be performed only at the years ordained therefore and not at other times. [s.R:] I think this is a poor translation. What is the translator saying? 351.                     Upanayana should be performed when Jupiter, Venus and the lord of the relevant Vedas are visible, in order: RgVeda - Jupiter; YajurVeda - Venus; SamaVeda - Mars; and AtharvaVeda - Mercury. [s.R:] Brahmanas are classified on the basis of the Vedas just as AUM has three rishi's - Gautama, Atri and Bharadwaj. The Upanayana is normally performed by the giving of the Sacred Gayatri mantra of the Rig Veda and what you speak of is the commencement of the learning of the Vedas itself. 352.                     The appropriate seasons for the Upanayana of the 3 classes of twice    born are: Autumn (Sharai); Summer (Grishma); and Spring (Vasanta), taken in the reverse order. In general, the time ordained for them are the 5 months beginning from Magha. [s.R:] This is Uttara-ayana in general 355.                  For Upayana, the most auspicious days are:                           Shukla Paksha: 13th, 10th, 7th, 11th, 6th, and 12th.                           The other days are of middling effect.                           During Krishna Paksha, the 2nd, 3rd and 5th days are of middling effect.                           The rest are extremely bad. [s.R:] No comments. The views are acceptable. 356-357.             The nakshatras favourable for Upanayana are: Hasta, Chitra and Svati (arka-traya); Revati, Pushya (Ijya), Ardra (Rudra); Punarvasu (Aditi), U. Phalguni, U.Ashadha, U.Bhadra, Sravana, Dhanishtha, Shatabhisak (Visnutraya), Asvini, Anuradha (Mitra) and Rohini (Abjayoni). [s.R:] There are other views as well and the views of Narada Purana are very good. 358.                     No auspicious rites should be performed in the following nakshatras: The 10th Nakshatra from the birth nakshatra (janma) is called Karma, the 16th, Sanghata, the 18th Samudaya, the 23rd Vinashana and the 25th Manasa. [s.R:] Confirm the Sarvatobhadra based on this i.e. this should be on the basis of 28 star and not 27 star system as the Upanayana is for spiritual purposes. 359-360a.          The weekdays pertaining to Acarya (Thursday); Saumya (Friday) and Kavya (Wednesday) are auspicious. [s.R:] Poor translation - Acharya is Jupiter hence Thursday; Kavya is for the Kavi Venus and hence Friday (not Mercury for Kavya) and Saumya refers to Mercury and Wednesday.                              The days pertaining to the Sun (Sunday) and Moon (Monday) are middling and the remaining two (Tuesday and Saturday) are detestable for commencing religious studies. [s.R:] Sunday is still fine as the Sun is very spiritual while Saturday is most ignoble for this purpose. Mondays causes the mind to stray while Tuesdays causes too many fights and troubles for health. 360b-361a         Divide the daytime into 3. During the 1st part, one should perform acts relating to the Devas. The 2nd part should be related to men and during the 3rd part, acts relating to the manes. (Therefore, Upanayana should only be conducted during the 1st part of the day). [s.R:] The division of the day into 6 parts is called RITU and the day portion has 3 rotu and night portion also has 3 ritu. All actions are based on ritu for success as Mercury the karaka of ritu is also the karaka of karma (10th house) 361b-362a         If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in debilitation (neecha) or are situated in an enemy’s nakshatra or an enemy’s varga, the student will lose his family status and his character. 362b-363a.        Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda occupies an inimical house or its vargas, the student will be a perpetrator of great sins. 363b-364a.        If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in exaltation (uccha) or occupy their swashektra or their rasi ganas, or the kendras or the trikona, the boy will be extremely wealthy and well versed in the Vedas and Sastras. 365.                     If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda is in high exaltation and the 8th is clear, the boy will be well versed in the Vedas and the Sastras. 366.                     If Jupiter, Venus or the Lord of one’s Veda or their vargas are in friendly houses or in their vargas or are in exaltation, he will be endowed with knowledge and wealth. 367.                     It is rare that in the case of the boy, all three, viz., the week day of the lord of one’s Veda, the strength of the lord of one’s Veda and the rising sign of the lord of one’s Veda occur simultaneously. [s.R:] Worship of ones Vedamurti is desirable. 368.                     Thus when the Moon is in the varga of the lord of the Veda, the student will become learned. But if it is in the varga of an evil sign or in a varga of his own sign, he would be poor and constantly distressed. 369.                     When Srvana or Punarvasu prevail, and the Moon is in a varga in Cancer, the student will be endowed with knowledge of the Vedas and the sciences and be endowed with food grains and wealth. 370-372.             All the saigns (rasis) are commendable if the time for the studentship ceremony is fixed in an auspicious lagna, in an auspicious varga thereof. When the 8th house is clear, the lagna, which is not the 8th house, is occupied or aspected by beneficent planets or by the 5 planets, Jupiter, Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus. When they are friendly and strong, or by the 4 auspicious planets fully endowed with positional strength (dig bala).; or aspected by them and devoid of the 21 great blemishes[sC1] possible in a day. [s.R:] This is the over riding factor over tithi and other things...the Lagna suddhi is vital to any Muhurta. Just ensure that Jupiter or the Veda-graha is strong. 373.                     However, only the auspicious Naväà ça of the said signs are to be selected. But the varga of Cancer (karka) can never be selected even if it is aspected by a beneficent planet. [s.R:] This is the Brahmana rasi and being the sign of exaltation of Jupiter it is very auspicious for the Vedas. 374.                     The vargas of Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and Kanya are auspicious. The studentship ceremony is to be performed only in a Naväà ça selected in the above manner. [s.R:] These vargas ae also considered very auspicious in the Siddhamsa D24 chart and Vimsamsa D20 chart (natal horoscopy) 375-376.             If evil planets occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th Houses, beneficent planets are not found in the 6th, 8th and 12th houses; and if the Moon does not occupy the 6th, 8th and 12th house from the lagna, the boy takes the vow of studentship, will be penniless and always consumptive even if the Moon is exalted or in its own house (or 4th House). [s.R:] What sort of translation is this? Malefics in Upachaya, Benefics not in dusthana and Moon not in dusthana is BAD!!! Pathetic rendering of such a great Purana. 377.                     If the Sun is exalted in a Kendra, the student’s parents will die. A lagna which does not have any of the above 5 faults is productive of auspicious results in Upanayana. [s.R:] ?? I need to check the sanskrit sloka and this I can do only in March-April when in Puri. If someone can send it now, we can study the sloka. 378.                     The studentship ceremony should not be performed other than in Spring nor in the galagraha days, the days of anadhyäya[sC2] , the 6th, nor during Viñöi Karana. 379.                     The 8 galagraha days are the 4 days from the 13th, the 3 days from the 7th and the Krishna Caturthi are declared to be inauspicious. [s.R:] I think these are the 13, 14, 15 and 1 respectively in Krsna and Sukla Pratipada. I am not sure why astami has been excluded but 7 and 9 are surely not good and Krishna Chaturthi is for leaving the pen not starting any kind of writing. Can someone please confirm from the Sanskrit version? Chandrashekharji, I can re-send if req. Sanjay Rath [guruji] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:49 AM 'Amol Mandar'; varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Upanayana  om namo bhagavate väsudeväya Dear Prabodh Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta Book. Does he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya arambha? Should these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying this to the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269  Dear Sanjay ji Namste Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are many who come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is concerned the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should we consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place as 2 or 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person becomes Dwija. So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and karak for second birth? Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am thinking of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer a lagna of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this it would be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work and patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 28, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Prabodh, Please furnish your birth particulars as to see whether you have the Karma to perform Upanayana to your sons this year. Thanking you, With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas Ji NamsteChi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanamwill be performed at Nagpur.Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh,> > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born indifferent places.May I know the names of those places and in whichplace you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?> > I hope this helps you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at> proper muhurta.> Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)> Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go through> the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> > > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information> > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service> > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.> > Please correct me if found wrong.> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > > wrote:> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta> > Padavi,> > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme> zu³taeNye,> > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.> > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,> > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaàsannanadhyäyo> > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> > year.Some have> > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be> > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th> year,then> > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,> > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best> > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and> Revathi are> > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (> > Astangata> > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more> > important.According to> > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be> transitting over> > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana> > and Shukla> > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,> > Mitra and> > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> > perform the> > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta> > Madhaveeya says> > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in> > 6th or> > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also> > should have> > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from> their> > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his> Father's> > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elderbrother or> > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> > occupied by> > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is> > ok.Budha> > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or> > Trikona> > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per> Prayoga> > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It> > aslo says,> > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.> > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|> > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th> > year,for> > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the> > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana isgood for> > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha> > months> > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For> Brahmins,Vasanta> > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> > Sharadrutu is> > > advisible.> > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>> > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||> > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> > Upavita ,the> > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru> > should be in> > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra> > should> > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in> > 6-11-3 are> > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not> > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna> > Kendra :> > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçcaprayacchanti> > > nrubhyaù|> > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaàtat||> > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> > poet.If Guru> > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra> makes a> > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in> Kendra> > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna> > Kendra,the> > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If> > Ravi is in> > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental> organisation.Kuja in a> > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons> > and if> > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people> > or low> > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna,> > then> > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we> > have to> > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta> > Lagna.> > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited> and for> > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,> Ganda and> > > Atiganda are prohibited.> > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which> > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified.> > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE> keNÔenukªla> pre,> > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||> > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in> > 11th> > > from Muhurta Lagna.> > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru> > and Budha> > > in Kendra in a good house.> > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) andGuru in> > > strength in Kendra.> > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in> Lagna.> > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in> > Kataka> > > Rashi.> > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> > Vargothamamsha> > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in> Meena> > > Rashi.> > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya> > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are> > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis> > are Gala> > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya> > Tithis are> > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half> day is> > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all> > Anadhyaya> > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.> > > > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7thand 13th> > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta> > available> > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna> > Paksha can> > > be considered.> > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana> > Muhurtas.Let us go> > > through them also.> > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra> having> > > Shubha Navamsha.> > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and> malefics in> > > 11th house.> > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in> > Kendra> > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.> > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.> > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and> > Kuja in> > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.> > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic> planets> > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in> > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.> > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in3-6-11.> > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's> > aspect,Guru in> > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.> > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting> > Chandra,Ravi in> > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.> > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient> > Classics on> > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]> > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM> > > varahamihira > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste> > > > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be> > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th.> > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.> > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd> > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is> > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should> > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna andMoon> > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house> > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th.5th may> > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it> > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly onceyou said> > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhavashould be> > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am> > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on> > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems tobe most> > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan> > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well.The Moon> > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only> > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in> > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as inprevious> > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next> > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.> > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we dosomethingg to> > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya> > > > Dear Prabodh> > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta> > > Book. Does> > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya> > > arambha? Should> > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I amcopying> > > this to> > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.> > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by DrRaman> > > > Best Wishes> > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India+91.6752.226269> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > > > ji Namste> > > > > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are> > > many who> > > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is> > > concerned> > > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam?> Should we> > > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju andplace> > > as 2 or> > > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person> > > becomes Dwija.> > > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and> > karak for> > > > second birth? > > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am> > > thinking> > > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I willprefer> > > a lagna> > > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this> > > it would> > > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard> work and> > > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!> > > > http://uk.messenger.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|> > > http://www.varahamihira > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 1, 2005 Dear Ramdas ji Namste The function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it. Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar varahamihira , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Prabodh, > > Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or two.Suppose if you postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for that ? > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar> wrote: > > Dear Ramdas Ji Namste > > Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam > will be performed at Nagpur. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in > different places.May I know the names of those places and in which > place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ? > > > > I hope this helps you. > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste > > > > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at > > proper muhurta. > > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna) > > Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna) > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go through > > the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you. > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all > > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required. > > > > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as > > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information > > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras > > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service > > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards. > > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed. > > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty. > > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self. > > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic. > > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha. > > > > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on > > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions. > > > Please correct me if found wrong. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " > > > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, > > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta > > > Padavi, > > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. > > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : > > > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme > > zu³taeNye, > > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< > > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va. > > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, > > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>. > > > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà > sannanadhyäyo > > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| > > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà > > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| > > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät| > > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù|| > > > > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th > > > year.Some have > > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be > > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th > > year,then > > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, > > > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best > > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and > > Revathi are > > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set ( > > > Astangata > > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more > > > important.According to > > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be > > transitting over > > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta > > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's > > > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana > > > and Shukla > > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, > > > Mitra and > > > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can > > > perform the > > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta > > > Madhaveeya says > > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in > > > 6th or > > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also > > > should have > > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from > > their > > > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his > > Father's > > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder > brother or > > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be > > > occupied by > > > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is > > > ok.Budha > > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or > > > Trikona > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per > > Prayoga > > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It > > > aslo says, > > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. > > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: > > > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme, > > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, > > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. > > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| > > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà| > > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| > > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th > > > year,for > > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the > > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is > good for > > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha > > > months > > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For > > Brahmins,Vasanta > > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas > > > Sharadrutu is > > > > advisible. > > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > > > > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>. > > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj> > > > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve. > > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| > > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù > > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|| > > > > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing > > > Upavita ,the > > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru > > > should be in > > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra > > > should > > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in > > > 6-11-3 are > > > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not > > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. > > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna > > > Kendra : > > > > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD, > > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!. > > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca > prayacchanti > > > > nrubhyaù| > > > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà > tat|| > > > > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a > > > poet.If Guru > > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra > > makes a > > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in > > Kendra > > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna > > > Kendra,the > > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If > > > Ravi is in > > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental > > organisation.Kuja in a > > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons > > > and if > > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people > > > or low > > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna, > > > then > > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we > > > have to > > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta > > > Lagna. > > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited > > and for > > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like > > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, > > Ganda and > > > > Atiganda are prohibited. > > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > > > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which > > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified. > > > > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE > > keNÔenukªla> pre, > > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI, > > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>. > > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye > > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>. > > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite| > > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| > > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| > > > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| > > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye > > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä|| > > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe > > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|| > > > > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in > > > 11th > > > > from Muhurta Lagna. > > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru > > > and Budha > > > > in Kendra in a good house. > > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and > Guru in > > > > strength in Kendra. > > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in > > Lagna. > > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in > > > Kataka > > > > Rashi. > > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka > > > Vargothamamsha > > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. > > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in > > Meena > > > > Rashi. > > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi : > > > > > > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, > > > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| > > > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|| > > > > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya > > > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are > > > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis > > > are Gala > > > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya > > > Tithis are > > > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half > > day is > > > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all > > > Anadhyaya > > > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. > > > > > > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th > and 13th > > > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta > > > available > > > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna > > > Paksha can > > > > be considered. > > > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana > > > Muhurtas.Let us go > > > > through them also. > > > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra > > having > > > > Shubha Navamsha. > > > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and > > malefics in > > > > 11th house. > > > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in > > > Kendra > > > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. > > > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. > > > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and > > > Kuja in > > > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. > > > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic > > planets > > > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in > > > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house. > > > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in > 3-6-11. > > > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's > > > aspect,Guru in > > > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona. > > > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting > > > Chandra,Ravi in > > > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. > > > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient > > > Classics on > > > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] > > > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM > > > > varahamihira > > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > > > > > > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be > > > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th. > > > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. > > > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd > > > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is > > > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should > > > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and > Moon > > > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house > > > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. > 5th may > > > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it > > > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once > you said > > > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava > should be > > > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am > > > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on > > > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to > be most > > > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan > > > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. > The Moon > > > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only > > > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in > > > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in > previous > > > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next > > > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. > > > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do > somethingg to > > > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > > > > > Dear Prabodh > > > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta > > > > Book. Does > > > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya > > > > arambha? Should > > > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am > copying > > > > this to > > > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > > > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr > Raman > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India > +91.6752.226269 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > > > > > ji Namste > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are > > > > many who > > > > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is > > > > concerned > > > > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? > > Should we > > > > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and > place > > > > as 2 or > > > > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person > > > > becomes Dwija. > > > > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and > > > karak for > > > > > second birth? > > > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am > > > > thinking > > > > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will > prefer > > > > a lagna > > > > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > > > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this > > > > it would > > > > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard > > work and > > > > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 2, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen for upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to Hora of the event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded by the 5th lord). Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit Moon's Tara be counted from weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?. I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance. Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th lord Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at Muhurtha. Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty. Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or moon next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions. Warm Regards Sanjay P. Om Tat Sat varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya > > Dear Ramdas ji > > Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and other factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be considered. In fact the planets should be having some link to the third from the lagna for proper transmission of the Guru Upadesa. However I agree wit your point about a change of date. However if Prabodh cannot change it then Abhijit Muhurta is the only way out. > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > Web Pages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: <http://.org/> http://.org > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 _____ > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM > varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Chi.Hari, > > You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord " .Do you mean to say,the natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it is not possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu Lagna and Kumbha Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani respectively.Then we can not perform the Upanayana or any other important auspicious Samskaras on these mentioned days. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Jyotisa, > > Can we distill these rules to: > > OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru- > upadesa) > TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty. > SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong. > > Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas Rao. > > regards > Hari > > varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " > wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta > Padavi, > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : > > jNmBdat! sÃmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p > > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, > > te r<Ø jNmc<à " at! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va. > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, > > %pnItaE iÖje<à " a[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>. > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà > sannanadhyäyo > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät| > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù|| > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th > year.Some have > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th > year,then > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and > Revathi are > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set ( > Astangata > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more > important.According to > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be > transitting over > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana > and Shukla > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, > Mitra and > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can > perform the > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta > Madhaveeya says > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit > in 6th or > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also > should have > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from > their > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his > Father's > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother > or > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be > occupied by > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is > ok.Budha > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or > Trikona > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per > Prayoga > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It > aslo says, > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: > > ivà SyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃme, > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà | > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th > year,for > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good > for > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and > Mesha months > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For > Brahmins,Vasanta > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas > Sharadrutu is > > advisible. > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygÃ<à " ma>. > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aà " 'te c<à " j> > > zu³SsÃMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÃ`ve. > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|| > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing > Upavita ,the > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru > should be in > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, > Chandra should > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6- > 11-3 are > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna > Kendra : > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNà " e zuÉaôIn! gu[a<à à yCD, > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÃ`'t< tt!. > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäà çca > prayacchanti > > nrubhyaù| > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà > tat|| > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a > poet.If Guru > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra > makes a > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in > Kendra > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna > Kendra,the > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If > Ravi is in > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental > organisation.Kuja in a > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to > weapons and if > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people > or low > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta > Lagna, then > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we > have to > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta > Lagna. > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited > and for > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, > Ganda and > > Atiganda are prohibited. > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during > which > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get > nullified. > > > > keNà " e devguraE Éve idnkre keNà " e zuÉa > > l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE keNà " enukªla> pre, > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNà " e iÇkae[e blI, > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>. > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<à " e;u vI[aedye > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja > > oe > > yaegaSsÃÃœu[aimhaepnyne à ae´a zuÉaiSsiÃda>. > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäà çasthite| > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| > > saumyäà çeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaà çeñu çukrendvinä|| > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|| > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi > in 11th > > from Muhurta Lagna. > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru > and Budha > > in Kendra in a good house. > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru > in > > strength in Kendra. > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in > Lagna. > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra > in Kataka > > Rashi. > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka > Vargothamamsha > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in > Meena > > Rashi. > > Now as per Narada Maharshi : > > > > ³...:[e à dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, > > à aKs > > kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|| > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis > are Gala > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya > Tithis are > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half > day is > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all > Anadhyaya > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. > > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and > 13th > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta > available > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna > Paksha can > > be considered. > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana > Muhurtas.Let us go > > through them also. > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra > having > > Shubha Navamsha. > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and > malefics in > > 11th house. > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru > in Kendra > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and > Kuja in > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic > planets > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru > in > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house. > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6- > 11. > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's > aspect,Guru in > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona. > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting > Chandra,Ravi in > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient > Classics on > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM > > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should > be > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in > 6th/8th/12th. > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in > 2nd > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon > should > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and > Moon > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th > house > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th > may > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because > it > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you > said > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should > be > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be > most > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in > parivartan > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The > Moon > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in > previous > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg > to > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > > > Dear Prabodh > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta > > Book. Does > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya > > arambha? Should > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am > copying > > this to > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr > Raman > > > Best Wishes > > > Sanjay Rath > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India > +91.6752.226269 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > ji Namste > > > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there > are > > many who > > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is > > concerned > > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? > Should we > > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and > place > > as 2 or > > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person > > becomes Dwija. > > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and > karak for > > > second birth? > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I > am > > thinking > > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will > prefer > > a lagna > > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D- > 24. > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for > this > > it would > > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard > work and > > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2005  om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya Dear Ramdas ji NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good for the Upanayana of his son. Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora. Of you are right in being serious about this muhrta..you are a good brahmin and for the brahmana the Upanayana is the most important sanskara Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:42 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sanjay Ji, Namaste.If I can take the Vara or Hora Lord of 5th house in case of Amol, whose Lagna is Dhanu, then we will be going against Muhurta Principles as 5th lord becomes Kuja.Kuja Vara and Shani Vara are taboo for Upanayana Muhurta.So in this case I feel the exaltation sign of Lagna lord Guru ie., Kataka lord's Hora ( Chandra Hora seems to be good.) Anyhow I am still working on both children's Muhurtas.Why I am taking too much care in this case as after Upanayana ,the Vatu gets rebirth and then only he be called as Dwija.After this ceremony, the spiritual growth,knowledge,Educational matters, prosperity in all fields will have a bearing on the native. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: om namo bhagavate väsudeväyaDear SanjayYes. It can take care of 50% of flaws in the muhurta if the vara or hora of the mantresa is chosenBest WishesSanjay RathWeb Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269||sanjaychettiar [sanjaychettiar] |Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:52 AM|varahamihira ||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|||||| Om Gurave Namah |||Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, || Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen |for upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to |Hora of the event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded |by the 5th lord).|| Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit Moon's Tara be counted |from weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?.|| I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance.||Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th |lord Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at Muhurtha.|Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty. |Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or moon| | next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc| ||Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions.||Warm Regards|Sanjay P.||Om Tat Sat| ||varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:|> om namo bhagavate vÄÂÂsudevÄÂÂya|> |> Dear Ramdas ji|> |> Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and other|factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be |considered. In fact the planets should be having some link to |the third from the lagna for proper transmission of the Guru |Upadesa. However I agree wit your point about a change of |date. However if Prabodh cannot change it then Abhijit Muhurta |is the only way out.|> |> Best Wishes|> |> Sanjay Rath|> |> Web Pages: http://srath.com|> |> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: |http://.org |> |> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269|> |> |> |> |> |> |> _____|> |> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]|> Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM|> varahamihira |> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> |> |> |> ` nmae naray[ay,|> |> om namo näräyaëäya||> |> Dear Chi.Hari,|> |> You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord ".Do you mean to say,the|natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it |is not possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu |Lagna and Kumbha Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani |respectively.Then we can not perform the Upanayana or any |other important auspicious Samskaras on these mentioned days.|> |> I hope this helps you.|> |> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> |> Ramadas Rao.|> |> |> |> |> onlyhari wrote: |> |> |> |> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|||> |> Dear Jyotisa,|> |> Can we distill these rules to:|> |> OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru-|> upadesa)|> TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty.|> SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong.|> |> Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas Rao.|> |> regards|> Hari|> |> varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" |> wrote:|> > ` nmae naray[ay,|> > om namo näräyaëäya||> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about |> > Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta|> Padavi,|> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.|> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :|> > jNmBdat! sÃÂÂmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p|> > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, te r<Ø |jNmc<Ã"at! guérip |> > shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma |> > va.|> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,|> > %pnItaE iÖje<Ã"a[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.|> > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaÃ|> sannanadhyäyo|> > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| te randhra |> > janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà kruñëaù |> > pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| atyäpadi |> > navame daçame vä kuryät| upanétau dvijendräëäm |añöamobdaù |> > çubho mataù|||> > |> > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th|> year.Some have|> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be |> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th|> year,then|> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, |> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are |the best |> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and|> Revathi are|> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (|> Astangata|> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more|> important.According to|> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be|> transitting over|> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta|> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's|> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana|> and Shukla|> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,|> Mitra and|> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can|> perform the|> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta|> Madhaveeya says|> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit|> in 6th or|> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also|> should have|> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from|> their|> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his|> Father's|> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother|> or|> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be|> occupied by|> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is|> ok.Budha|> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or|> Trikona|> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per|> Prayoga|> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It|> aslo says,|> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.|> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:|> > ivà SyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃÂÂme, rajNySy |ctuiÉRrÇ sihte |> > vEZySy tu Öadze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, |> > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.|> > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| |> > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| süryo |> > gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà | çreñöaà |> > meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| |Meaning for |> > a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th|> year,for|> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the |> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good|> for|> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and|> Mesha months|> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For|> Brahmins,Vasanta|> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas|> Sharadrutu is|> > advisible.|> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > |> > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃÂÂ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) |suÿ't! praÉv |> > irpUn! mu®vaNygÃÂ<Ã"ma>.|> > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÃ"'te c<Ã"j> zu³SsÃÂÂMtaeNy |> > raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÃ`ve.|> > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito jévo |> > riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| |> > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù |> > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|||> > |> > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing|> Upavita ,the|> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru|> should be in|> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,|> Chandra should|> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6-|> 11-3 are|> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is |also not |> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.|> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna|> Kendra :|> > |> > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÃ"e zuÉaôIn! gu[a<àà yCD, gu[sy |> > SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÃ`'t< tt!.|> > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäà çca|> prayacchanti|> > nrubhyaù||> > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram|yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà |> tat|||> > |> > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a|> poet.If Guru|> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra|> makes a|> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in|> Kendra|> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna|> Kendra,the|> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If|> Ravi is in|> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental|> organisation.Kuja in a|> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to|> weapons and if|> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people|> or low|> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta|> Lagna, then|> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we|> have to|> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta|> Lagna.|> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited|> and for|> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like |> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,|> Ganda and|> > Atiganda are prohibited.|> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during|> which|> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get|> nullified.|> > |> > keNÃ"e devguraE Éve idnkre keNÃ"e zuÉa l¶awaRnujge istae |> > guébuxaE keNÃ"enukªla> pre, Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÃ"e |> > iÇkae[e blI, saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.|> > gaeme;e<ÃÅ ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ã"e;u vI[aedye |mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja oe |> > yaegaSsÃÂÂÃœu[aimhaepnyne à ae´a zuÉaiSsiÃÂÂda>.|> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäà çasthite| |> > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| |> > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| saumyäà |> > çeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| |> > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye |> > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaà çeñu çukrendvinä|| |> > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe |> > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|||> > |> > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi|> in 11th|> > from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru|> and Budha|> > in Kendra in a good house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru|> in|> > strength in Kendra.|> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in|> Lagna.|> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra|> in Kataka|> > Rashi.|> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka|> Vargothamamsha|> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.|> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in|> Meena|> > Rashi.|> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :|> > |> > ³...:[e à dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, à aKs kruñëe |> > pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| |präksandhyä garjite |> > neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|||> > |> > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya |> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are |> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis|> are Gala|> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya|> Tithis are|> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half|> day is|> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all|> Anadhyaya|> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.|> > |> > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and|> 13th|> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta|> available|> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna|> Paksha can|> > be considered.|> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana|> Muhurtas.Let us go|> > through them also.|> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra|> having|> > Shubha Navamsha.|> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and|> malefics in|> > 11th house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru|> in Kendra|> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.|> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and|> Kuja in|> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.|> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic|> planets|> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru|> in|> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.|> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-|> 11.|> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's|> aspect,Guru in|> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.|> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting|> Chandra,Ravi in|> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.|> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient|> Classics on|> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.|> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> > Ramadas Rao.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]|> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM|> > varahamihira |> > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > Dear Sanjay ji Namste|> > |> > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should|> be|> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in|> 6th/8th/12th.|> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.|> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in|> 2nd|> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is |> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon|> should|> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. |> > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and|> Moon|> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th|> house|> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th|> may|> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because|> it|> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you|> said|> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should|> be|> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. |> > |> > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said |date I am |> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on|> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be|> most|> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in|> parivartan|> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The|> Moon|> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only |> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in |> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in|> previous|> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next |> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.|> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg|> to|> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?|> > |> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > |> > Prabodh Vekhande|> > Jai Jai Shankar|> > Har Har Shankar|> > |> > |> > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" |> wrote:|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya|> > > Dear Prabodh|> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta|> > Book. Does|> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya|> > arambha? Should|> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am|> copying|> > this to|> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.|> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr|> Raman|> > > Best Wishes|> > > Sanjay Rath|> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC |Puri: 212 |> > > Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India|> +91.6752.226269|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > Dear Sanjay|> > |> > ji Namste|> > > |> > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there|> are|> > many who|> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is|> > concerned|> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? |> Should we|> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and|> place|> > as 2 or|> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person|> > becomes Dwija.|> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and|> karak for|> > > second birth? |> > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I|> am|> > thinking|> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will|> prefer|> > a lagna|> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-|> 24. |> > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for|> this|> > it would|> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard|> work and|> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.|> > > |> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > > |> > > Prabodh Vekhande|> > > Jai Jai Shankar|> > > Har Har Shankar|> > > |> > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!|> > > http://uk.messenger.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |Om Tat Sat||> > http://www.varahamihira|> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sanjay Ji, Please dont feel bad and as I am a Brahmin like many in this list,I consider Upanayana as the most important auspicious event in his life.Now as you said, we can chose the Kuja Hora instead of Kuja Vara but then we also have to see which Muhurta is rising at that time.A Muhurta is of 2 Ghatikas or 48 minutes.Similarly which Nadika also rises during that Hora is also has to be considered.Nadika is Half of 1 Muhurta or 24 Minutes or 1 Ghatika.So if Muhurtas and Nadikas are bad during such a Kuja Hora, then there is no other way and only to discard such Muhurta. Anyhow we are learning many things during fixing of such Auspicious Muhurtas. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:  om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya Dear Ramdas ji NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good for the Upanayana of his son. Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora. Of you are right in being serious about this muhrta..you are a good brahmin and for the brahmana the Upanayana is the most important sanskara Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:42 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sanjay Ji, Namaste.If I can take the Vara or Hora Lord of 5th house in case of Amol, whose Lagna is Dhanu, then we will be going against Muhurta Principles as 5th lord becomes Kuja.Kuja Vara and Shani Vara are taboo for Upanayana Muhurta.So in this case I feel the exaltation sign of Lagna lord Guru ie., Kataka lord's Hora ( Chandra Hora seems to be good.) Anyhow I am still working on both children's Muhurtas.Why I am taking too much care in this case as after Upanayana ,the Vatu gets rebirth and then only he be called as Dwija.After this ceremony, the spiritual growth,knowledge,Educational matters, prosperity in all fields will have a bearing on the native. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: om namo bhagavate väsudeväyaDear SanjayYes. It can take care of 50% of flaws in the muhurta if the vara or hora of the mantresa is chosenBest WishesSanjay RathWeb Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269||sanjaychettiar [sanjaychettiar] |Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:52 AM|varahamihira ||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|||||| Om Gurave Namah |||Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, || Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen |for upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to |Hora of the event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded |by the 5th lord).|| Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit Moon's Tara be counted |from weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?.|| I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance.||Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th |lord Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at Muhurtha.|Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty. |Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or moon| | next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc| ||Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions.||Warm Regards|Sanjay P.||Om Tat Sat| ||varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:|> om namo bhagavate vÄÂÂsudevÄÂÂya|> |> Dear Ramdas ji|> |> Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and other|factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be |considered. In fact the planets should be having some link to |the third from the lagna for proper transmission of the Guru |Upadesa. However I agree wit your point about a change of |date. However if Prabodh cannot change it then Abhijit Muhurta |is the only way out.|> |> Best Wishes|> |> Sanjay Rath|> |> Web Pages: http://srath.com|> |> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: |http://.org |> |> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269|> |> |> |> |> |> |> _____|> |> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao]|> Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM|> varahamihira |> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> |> |> |> ` nmae naray[ay,|> |> om namo näräyaëäya||> |> Dear Chi.Hari,|> |> You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord ".Do you mean to say,the|natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it |is not possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu |Lagna and Kumbha Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani |respectively.Then we can not perform the Upanayana or any |other important auspicious Samskaras on these mentioned days.|> |> I hope this helps you.|> |> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> |> Ramadas Rao.|> |> |> |> |> onlyhari wrote: |> |> |> |> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|||> |> Dear Jyotisa,|> |> Can we distill these rules to:|> |> OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru-|> upadesa)|> TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty.|> SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong.|> |> Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas Rao.|> |> regards|> Hari|> |> varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" |> wrote:|> > ` nmae naray[ay,|> > om namo näräyaëäya||> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about |> > Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta|> Padavi,|> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.|> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :|> > jNmBdat! sÃÂÂmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p|> > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, te r<Ø |jNmc<Ã"at! guérip |> > shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma |> > va.|> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,|> > %pnItaE iÖje<Ã"a[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.|> > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaÃ|> sannanadhyäyo|> > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| te randhra |> > janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà kruñëaù |> > pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| atyäpadi |> > navame daçame vä kuryät| upanétau dvijendräëäm |añöamobdaù |> > çubho mataù|||> > |> > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th|> year.Some have|> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be |> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th|> year,then|> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, |> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are |the best |> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and|> Revathi are|> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (|> Astangata|> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more|> important.According to|> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be|> transitting over|> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta|> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's|> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana|> and Shukla|> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,|> Mitra and|> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can|> perform the|> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta|> Madhaveeya says|> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit|> in 6th or|> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also|> should have|> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from|> their|> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his|> Father's|> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother|> or|> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be|> occupied by|> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is|> ok.Budha|> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or|> Trikona|> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per|> Prayoga|> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It|> aslo says,|> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.|> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:|> > ivà SyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃÂÂme, rajNySy |ctuiÉRrÇ sihte |> > vEZySy tu Öadze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, |> > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.|> > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| |> > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| süryo |> > gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà | çreñöaà |> > meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| |Meaning for |> > a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th|> year,for|> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the |> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good|> for|> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and|> Mesha months|> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For|> Brahmins,Vasanta|> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas|> Sharadrutu is|> > advisible.|> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > |> > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃÂÂ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) |suÿ't! praÉv |> > irpUn! mu®vaNygÃÂ<Ã"ma>.|> > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÃ"'te c<Ã"j> zu³SsÃÂÂMtaeNy |> > raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÃ`ve.|> > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito jévo |> > riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| |> > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù |> > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|||> > |> > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing|> Upavita ,the|> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru|> should be in|> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,|> Chandra should|> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6-|> 11-3 are|> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is |also not |> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.|> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna|> Kendra :|> > |> > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÃ"e zuÉaôIn! gu[a<àà yCD, gu[sy |> > SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÃ`'t< tt!.|> > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäà çca|> prayacchanti|> > nrubhyaù||> > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram|yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà |> tat|||> > |> > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a|> poet.If Guru|> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra|> makes a|> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in|> Kendra|> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna|> Kendra,the|> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If|> Ravi is in|> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental|> organisation.Kuja in a|> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to|> weapons and if|> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people|> or low|> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta|> Lagna, then|> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we|> have to|> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta|> Lagna.|> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited|> and for|> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like |> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,|> Ganda and|> > Atiganda are prohibited.|> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :|> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during|> which|> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get|> nullified.|> > |> > keNÃ"e devguraE Éve idnkre keNÃ"e zuÉa l¶awaRnujge istae |> > guébuxaE keNÃ"enukªla> pre, Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÃ"e |> > iÇkae[e blI, saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.|> > gaeme;e<ÃÅ ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ã"e;u vI[aedye |mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja oe |> > yaegaSsÃÂÂÃœu[aimhaepnyne à ae´a zuÉaiSsiÃÂÂda>.|> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäà çasthite| |> > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| |> > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| saumyäà |> > çeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| |> > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye |> > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaà çeñu çukrendvinä|| |> > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe |> > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|||> > |> > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi|> in 11th|> > from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru|> and Budha|> > in Kendra in a good house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru|> in|> > strength in Kendra.|> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in|> Lagna.|> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra|> in Kataka|> > Rashi.|> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka|> Vargothamamsha|> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.|> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in|> Meena|> > Rashi.|> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :|> > |> > ³...:[e à dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, à aKs kruñëe |> > pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| |präksandhyä garjite |> > neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|||> > |> > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya |> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are |> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis|> are Gala|> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya|> Tithis are|> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half|> day is|> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all|> Anadhyaya|> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.|> > |> > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and|> 13th|> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta|> available|> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna|> Paksha can|> > be considered.|> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana|> Muhurtas.Let us go|> > through them also.|> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra|> having|> > Shubha Navamsha.|> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and|> malefics in|> > 11th house.|> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru|> in Kendra|> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.|> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.|> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and|> Kuja in|> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.|> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic|> planets|> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru|> in|> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.|> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-|> 11.|> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's|> aspect,Guru in|> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.|> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting|> Chandra,Ravi in|> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.|> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient|> Classics on|> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.|> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,|> > Ramadas Rao.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]|> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM|> > varahamihira |> > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > Dear Sanjay ji Namste|> > |> > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should|> be|> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in|> 6th/8th/12th.|> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.|> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in|> 2nd|> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is |> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon|> should|> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. |> > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and|> Moon|> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th|> house|> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th|> may|> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because|> it|> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you|> said|> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should|> be|> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. |> > |> > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said |date I am |> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on|> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be|> most|> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in|> parivartan|> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The|> Moon|> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only |> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in |> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in|> previous|> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next |> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.|> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg|> to|> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?|> > |> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > |> > Prabodh Vekhande|> > Jai Jai Shankar|> > Har Har Shankar|> > |> > |> > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" |> wrote:|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya|> > > Dear Prabodh|> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta|> > Book. Does|> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya|> > arambha? Should|> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am|> copying|> > this to|> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.|> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr|> Raman|> > > Best Wishes|> > > Sanjay Rath|> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC |Puri: 212 |> > > Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India|> +91.6752.226269|> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > Dear Sanjay|> > |> > ji Namste|> > > |> > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there|> are|> > many who|> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is|> > concerned|> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? |> Should we|> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and|> place|> > as 2 or|> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person|> > becomes Dwija.|> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and|> karak for|> > > second birth? |> > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I|> am|> > thinking|> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will|> prefer|> > a lagna|> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-|> 24. |> > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for|> this|> > it would|> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard|> work and|> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.|> > > |> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.|> > > |> > > Prabodh Vekhande|> > > Jai Jai Shankar|> > > Har Har Shankar|> > > |> > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!|> > > http://uk.messenger.|> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |Om Tat Sat||> > http://www.varahamihira|> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Guruji, For this contradiction of when the Vara lord becomes inimical to to Kaarakatwa if Task. I was thinking of getting a Good Amrita or Siddha Yoga on that Vara day. This will remove the dosha of the Vara against the Kaaraktva. For example if Saturn is 5th lord and Saturn is against the Upanayama Karaka (Jupiter) Then Search for Siddha Yoga(On Rikta Tithis) or Amrita Yoga (Poorna Tithi) on Saturday. This will remove the dosha. 2 out of 5 tithi has chances of removing the Vaara lord dosha. This was my opinion after reading some texts and your teachings. How much do think this tithi yoga,can it remove the Vaara dosha?. What is you opinion on this approach? Warm Regards Sanjay P Hari Om Tat Sat varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya > > Dear Ramdas ji > > NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good for the Upanayana of his son. > > Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora. > > Of you are right in being serious about this muhrta..you are a good brahmin and for the brahmana the Upanayana is the most important sanskara > > Best Wishes > > Sanjay Rath > > Web Pages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com > > Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: <http://.org/> http://.org > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 _____ > > Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:42 PM > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Sanjay Ji, > Namaste.If I can take the Vara or Hora Lord of 5th house in case of Amol, whose Lagna is Dhanu, then we will be going against Muhurta Principles as 5th lord becomes Kuja.Kuja Vara and Shani Vara are taboo for Upanayana Muhurta.So in this case I feel the exaltation sign of Lagna lord Guru ie., Kataka lord's Hora ( Chandra Hora seems to be good.) Anyhow I am still working on both children's Muhurtas.Why I am taking too much care in this case as after Upanayana ,the Vatu gets rebirth and then only he be called as Dwija.After this ceremony, the spiritual growth,knowledge,Educational matters, prosperity in all fields will have a bearing on the native. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao. > > Sanjay Rath <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > Dear Sanjay > Yes. It can take care of 50% of flaws in the muhurta if the vara or hora of the mantresa is chosen > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > > > > | > |sanjaychettiar@g... [sanjaychettiar@g...] > |Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:52 AM > |varahamihira > ||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > | > | > | > ||| Om Gurave Namah || > |Dear Guruji and Jyotishas, > | > | Shouldn't the Hora of the 5th lord of natal chart be chosen > |for upanayana?. I usually try to give utmost importance to > |Hora of the event house lord. (Else I select the day lorded > |by the 5th lord). > | > | Also, Regarding Tara Shouldn't Transit Moon's Tara be counted > |from weaker of Natal Lagna or Moon?. > | > | I use the following order for Muhurtha in order of importance. > | > |Imp No#1. Hora of relevent house from natal chart. Here 5th > |lord Imp No#2. The event Karaka (here Jupiter) in quadrant at Muhurtha. > |Imp No#3. 8th and Karaka house (here 5th) should be empty. > |Imp No#4. Good transit tara counted from Weaker of Natal Lagna or moon > | > | next good Nakshatra, Auspicous Yoga's etc > | > | > |Generally for minor events I am satisfied with first 3 conditions. > | > |Warm Regards > |Sanjay P. > | > |Om Tat Sat > | > | > |varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " wrote: > |> om namo bhagavate vÄÂÂsudevÄÂÂya > |> > |> Dear Ramdas ji > |> > |> Hari was meely giving a simple rule. Aspects to the house and other > |factors like the third from navamsa lagna can also be > |considered. In fact the planets should be having some link to > |the third from the lagna for proper transmission of the Guru > |Upadesa. However I agree wit your point about a change of > |date. However if Prabodh cannot change it then Abhijit Muhurta > |is the only way out. > |> > |> Best Wishes > |> > |> Sanjay Rath > |> > |> Web Pages: http://srath.com > |> > |> Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: > |http://.org > |> > |> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> _____ > |> > |> Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] > |> Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:34 PM > |> varahamihira > |> Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > |> > |> > |> > |> ` nmae naray[ay, > |> > |> om namo nÃÆ'¤rÃÆ'¤yaÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤ya| > |> > |> Dear Chi.Hari, > |> > |> You said " Choose the day of the 3rd lord " .Do you mean to say,the > |natal Lagna's 3rd lord day ? If this is your meaning, then it > |is not possible.Now for Kanya Lagna,Vrischika Lagna, Dhanu > |Lagna and Kumbha Lagna,the 3rd lord becomes Kuja and Shani > |respectively.Then we can not perform the Upanayana or any > |other important auspicious Samskaras on these mentioned days. > |> > |> I hope this helps you. > |> > |> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > |> > |> Ramadas Rao. > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> onlyhari wrote: > |> > |> > |> > |> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > |> > |> Dear Jyotisa, > |> > |> Can we distill these rules to: > |> > |> OM1: Choose the day of the 3rd lord (because 3rd house is Guru- > |> upadesa) > |> TAT2: The 8th and 9th houses should be empty. > |> SAT3: The karakas Sun and Jupiter should be strong. > |> > |> Other things can be choosen as per information of Sri Ramadas Rao. > |> > |> regards > |> Hari > |> > |> varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " > |> wrote: > |> > ` nmae naray[ay, > |> > om namo nÃÆ'¤rÃÆ'¤yaÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤ya| > |> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about > |> > Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta > |> Padavi, > |> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. > |> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : > |> > jNmBdat! sÃÆ'ÂÂmadaE SÃÆ'¨utmupnyn< p > |> > inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caÃÆ'²me zu³taeNye, te r<ÃÆ'ËŠ" > |jNmc<ÃÆ' " at! guÃÆ'©rip > |> > shje jNmÃÆ'‰acayR r<ÃÆ'ËŠ" < ³...:[> p] aekRjaÃÆ'¶uiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma > |> > va. > |> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, > |> > %pnItaE iÃÆ'–je<ÃÆ' " a[a< AÃÆ'²maeBd> zuÃÆ'‰ ae mt>. > |> > janmabdÃÆ'¤t saptamÃÆ'¤dau smrutamupanayanaÃÆ' paÃÆ'¯came cÃÆ'¤nnabhaÃÆ' > |> sannanadhyÃÆ'¤yo > |> > niÃÆ'§ÃÆ'¤rkastapasi phaÃÆ'«ikujau cÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶ame ÃÆ'§ukratoanye| te randhra > |> > janmacandrÃÆ'¤t gururapi sahaje janmabhÃÆ'¤cÃÆ'¤rya randhraÃÆ' kruÃÆ'±ÃÆ'«aÃÆ'¹ > |> > pakÃÆ'±orkajÃÆ'¤srugdinamayanamvÃÆ'¤k pakÃÆ'±atirmadhyamÃÆ'¤ vÃÆ'¤|| atyÃÆ'¤padi > |> > navame daÃÆ'§ame vÃÆ'¤ kuryÃÆ'¤t| upanÃÆ'©tau dvijendrÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤m > |aÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶amobdaÃÆ'¹ > |> > ÃÆ'§ubho mataÃÆ'¹|| > |> > > |> > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th > |> year.Some have > |> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be > |> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th > |> year,then > |> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, > |> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are > |the best > |> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and > |> Revathi are > |> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set ( > |> Astangata > |> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more > |> important.According to > |> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be > |> transitting over > |> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta > |> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's > |> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana > |> and Shukla > |> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, > |> Mitra and > |> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can > |> perform the > |> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta > |> Madhaveeya says > |> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit > |> in 6th or > |> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also > |> should have > |> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from > |> their > |> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his > |> Father's > |> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother > |> or > |> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be > |> occupied by > |> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is > |> ok.Budha > |> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or > |> Trikona > |> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per > |> Prayoga > |> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It > |> aslo says, > |> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. > |> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: > |> > ivÃÆ' SyaiÃÆ'‰iht< iÃÆ'–tIyjnn< v;eR zuÃÆ'â €°< sÃÆ'ÂÂme, rajNySy > |ctuiÃÆ'‰RrÃÆ'‡ sihte > |> > vEZySy tu ÃÆ'–adze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiÃÆ'¯te tdxm< k...<ÃÆ'‰E[ge mXym<, > |> > ÃÆ'¯eÃÆ'²< me; H;aiÃÆ'¯te suriÃÆ'‰ge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. > |> > viprasyÃÆ'¤bhihitaÃÆ' dvitÃÆ'©yajananaÃÆ' varÃÆ'±e ÃÆ'§ubhaÃÆ' saptame| > |> > rÃÆ'¤janyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiÃÆ'§yasya tu dvÃÆ'¤daÃÆ'§e| sÃÆ'¼ryo > |> > gomithunÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§rite tadadhamaÃÆ' kumbhaiÃÆ'«age madhyamaÃÆ' | ÃÆ'§reÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶aÃÆ' > |> > meÃÆ'±a jhaÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§rite surabhige grÃÆ'©ÃÆ'±me ÃÆ'§aradanyayoÃÆ'¹|| > |Meaning for > |> > a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th > |> year,for > |> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the > |> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good > |> for > |> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and > |> Mesha months > |> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For > |> Brahmins,Vasanta > |> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas > |> Sharadrutu is > |> > advisible. > |> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > |> > > |> > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃÆ'ÂÂ?nagmsut ÃÆ'´IxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) > |suÃÆ'¿'t! praÃÆ'‰v > |> > irpUn! mu®vaNygÃÆ'ÂÂ<ÃÆ' " ma>. > |> > ³ªraZzÃÆ'‡uÃÆ'‰vanuje;u zuÃÆ'â €°da ir>^)aÃÆ' " 'te c<ÃÆ' " j> zu³SsÃÆ'ÂÂMtaeNy > |> > raiz;u crn! ÃÆ'¯eÃÆ'²ae iÃÆ'–tIyaeÃÆ'`ve. > |> > karturjanmagruhÃÆ'¤ddhnÃÆ'¤gamasuta strÃÆ'©dharma karmasthito jÃÆ'©vo > |> > riÃÆ'¹pha suhrut parÃÆ'¤bhava ripÃÆ'¼n muktvÃÆ'¤nyagaÃÆ'§candramÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹|| > |> > krÃÆ'¼rÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§ÃÆ'§atrubhavÃÆ'¤nujeÃÆ'±u ÃÆ'§ubhadÃÆ'¤ riÃÆ'¹phÃÆ'¤drute candrajaÃÆ'¹ > |> > ÃÆ'§ukrassaptamtoanya rÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'§iÃÆ'±u caran ÃÆ'§reÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶o dvitÃÆ'©yodbhave|| > |> > > |> > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing > |> Upavita ,the > |> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru > |> should be in > |> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, > |> Chandra should > |> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in 6- > |> 11-3 are > |> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is > |also not > |> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. > |> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna > |> Kendra : > |> > > |> > kivTv< guÃÆ'©Tv< buxTv< c keNÃÆ' " e zuÃÆ'‰ aÃÆ'´In! gu[a<ÃÆ' ÃÆ' yCD, gu[sy > |> > SvkIySy dan< n icÃÆ'‡m! ydÃÆ'â €¡aNyyaedaRnmTyÃÆ'`'t< tt!. > |> > kavitvaÃÆ' gurutvaÃÆ' budhatvaÃÆ' ca kendre ÃÆ'§ubhÃÆ'¤strÃÆ'©n guÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤ÃÆ' ÃÆ'§ca > |> prayacchanti > |> > nrubhyaÃÆ'¹| > |> > guÃÆ'«asya svakÃÆ'©yasya dÃÆ'¤naÃÆ' na citram > |yadatrÃÆ'¤nyayordÃÆ'¤namatyadbhutaÃÆ' > |> tat|| > |> > > |> > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a > |> poet.If Guru > |> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra > |> makes a > |> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in > |> Kendra > |> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna > |> Kendra,the > |> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If > |> Ravi is in > |> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental > |> organisation.Kuja in a > |> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to > |> weapons and if > |> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people > |> or low > |> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta > |> Lagna, then > |> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we > |> have to > |> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta > |> Lagna. > |> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited > |> and for > |> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like > |> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, > |> Ganda and > |> > Atiganda are prohibited. > |> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > |> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during > |> which > |> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get > |> nullified. > |> > > |> > keNÃÆ' " e devguraE ÃÆ'‰ve idnkre keNÃÆ' " e zuÃÆ'‰ a l¶awaRnujge istae > |> > guÃÆ'©buxaE keNÃÆ' " enukªla> pre, Sv] RSwae½gte yid guÃÆ'©> keNÃÆ' " e > |> > iÃÆ'‡kae[e blI, saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>. > |> > gaeme;e<ÃÆ'Ã… ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<ÃÆ' " e;u vI[aedye > |mIne<ÃÆ'–aSpdme;ja oe > |> > yaegaSsÃÆ'ÂÂÃÆ'Å“u[aimhaepnyne ÃÆ' ae´a zuÃÆ'‰aiSsiÃÆ'ÂÂda>. > |> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre ÃÆ'§ubhÃÆ'¤ÃÆ' ÃÆ'§asthite| > |> > lagnÃÆ'¤rthÃÆ'¤nujage sito gurubudhau kendreanukÃÆ'¼lÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹ pare| > |> > svarkÃÆ'±asthoccagate yadi guruÃÆ'¹ kendre trikoÃÆ'«e balÃÆ'©| saumyÃÆ'¤ÃÆ' > |> > ÃÆ'§eÃÆ'±u vidhau budhÃÆ'¤rkabhrugujÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹ karmÃÆ'¤ya lagnasthitÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹|| > |> > gomeÃÆ'±endu graheÃÆ'±u ÃÆ'§ukradinakruccandreÃÆ'±u vÃÆ'©ÃÆ'«odaye > |> > mÃÆ'©nendvÃÆ'¤spadameÃÆ'±ajÃÆ'¤ntimamukha tryaÃÆ' ÃÆ'§eÃÆ'±u ÃÆ'§ukrendvinÃÆ'¤|| > |> > kheantye vÃÆ'¤ vidino bhave tanugataÃÆ'§ÃÆ'§ukro guruvÃÆ'¤rjhaÃÆ'±e > |> > yogÃÆ'¤ssaptanruÃÆ'«ÃÆ'¤mihopanayane proktÃÆ'¤ ÃÆ'§ubhÃÆ'¤ssiddhidÃÆ'¤ÃÆ'¹|| > |> > > |> > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi > |> in 11th > |> > from Muhurta Lagna. > |> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru > |> and Budha > |> > in Kendra in a good house. > |> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru > |> in > |> > strength in Kendra. > |> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in > |> Lagna. > |> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra > |> in Kataka > |> > Rashi. > |> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka > |> Vargothamamsha > |> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. > |> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in > |> Meena > |> > Rashi. > |> > Now as per Narada Maharshi : > |> > > |> > ³...:[e ÃÆ' dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, ÃÆ' aKs kruÃÆ'±ÃÆ'«e > |> > pradoÃÆ'±eanadhyÃÆ'¤ye ÃÆ'§anau niÃÆ'§ÃÆ'§aparÃÆ'¤hÃÆ'«ake| > |prÃÆ'¤ksandhyÃÆ'¤ garjite > |> > neÃÆ'±ÃÆ'¶o vratabandho galagrahe|| > |> > > |> > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya > |> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are > |> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis > |> are Gala > |> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya > |> Tithis are > |> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half > |> day is > |> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all > |> Anadhyaya > |> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. > |> > > |> > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and > |> 13th > |> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta > |> available > |> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna > |> Paksha can > |> > be considered. > |> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana > |> Muhurtas.Let us go > |> > through them also. > |> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra > |> having > |> > Shubha Navamsha. > |> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and > |> malefics in > |> > 11th house. > |> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru > |> in Kendra > |> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. > |> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. > |> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and > |> Kuja in > |> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. > |> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic > |> planets > |> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru > |> in > |> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house. > |> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6- > |> 11. > |> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's > |> aspect,Guru in > |> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona. > |> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting > |> Chandra,Ravi in > |> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. > |> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient > |> Classics on > |> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. > |> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > |> > Ramadas Rao. > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] > |> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM > |> > varahamihira > |> > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > |> > > |> > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should > |> be > |> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in > |> 6th/8th/12th. > |> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. > |> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in > |> 2nd > |> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is > |> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon > |> should > |> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > |> > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and > |> Moon > |> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th > |> house > |> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th > |> may > |> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because > |> it > |> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you > |> said > |> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should > |> be > |> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > |> > > |> > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said > |date I am > |> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on > |> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be > |> most > |> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in > |> parivartan > |> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The > |> Moon > |> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only > |> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in > |> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in > |> previous > |> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next > |> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. > |> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg > |> to > |> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? > |> > > |> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > |> > > |> > Prabodh Vekhande > |> > Jai Jai Shankar > |> > Har Har Shankar > |> > > |> > > |> > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " > |> wrote: > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > om namo bhagavate vÃÆ'¤sudevÃÆ'¤ya > |> > > Dear Prabodh > |> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta > |> > Book. Does > |> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya > |> > arambha? Should > |> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am > |> copying > |> > this to > |> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > |> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr > |> Raman > |> > > Best Wishes > |> > > Sanjay Rath > |> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org SJC > |Puri: 212 > |> > > Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India > |> +91.6752.226269 > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > > |> > > Dear Sanjay > |> > > |> > ji Namste > |> > > > |> > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there > |> are > |> > many who > |> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is > |> > concerned > |> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? > |> Should we > |> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and > |> place > |> > as 2 or > |> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person > |> > becomes Dwija. > |> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and > |> karak for > |> > > second birth? > |> > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I > |> am > |> > thinking > |> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will > |> prefer > |> > a lagna > |> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D- > |> 24. > |> > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for > |> this > |> > it would > |> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard > |> work and > |> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > |> > > > |> > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > |> > > > |> > > Prabodh Vekhande > |> > > Jai Jai Shankar > |> > > Har Har Shankar > |> > > > |> > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > |> > > http://uk.messenger. > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > |Om Tat Sat| > |> > http://www.varahamihira > |> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2005  Om Gurava Namah Dear Guru jis, I am attaching the portion from Narada purana in transliteration. I also found something interesting in Agni Purana. Ägni Puräëa Ch 121 eteñu ñaösu vijñeyam dhänyaniñkramaëam budhaiù | devatärämaväpyädipratiñöhodaìmukhe ravau ||53 mithunasthe ravau darçädyädi syäd dvädaçé tithiù | sadä tatraiva kartavyam ñayanam cakrapäëinaù ||54 siṃhatauliìgate(3) cärke darçädyadvädaçédvayam | ädävindrasamuptyänam prabodhaç ca hareù kramät ||55 Does this mean we will have to reject the Dwadashi Day when Sun is in Gemini? On AV, I read in Jyotisharnava Navanitam that the months transited by the Sun with zero bindus in that rasi or the tithes and nakshatra  (in consideration) denoted by the Moon’s transit in the particular rasi should be avoided. Love, Swee Sanjay Rath [guruji] Friday, March 04, 2005 8:13 PM varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya Dear Ramdas ji He has no option but to do the Upanayana now.SO it is better to tell him about the procedure for the Guru shanti so hat he can have this done for the children at the time of the Upanayana. Sun in Aries will be in Upachaya from their janma rasi and this can be a good factor. Vakra guru is considered good while the evil of the retrograde Saturn will not be there. Either way Saturn will be transiting the janma rasi of either of the sons. I think it is better to do the Upanayana for the elder son in April when Saturn is in Gemini and later for the younge son after Saturn leaves Gemini. Prabodh what do you say? If you so agree then it will be easy to fix a muhurta for one. Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com Jyotish Guru, Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 Ramadas Rao [ramadasrao] Friday, March 04, 2005 1:51 AM varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Prabodh, Now I had gone through your both sons' chart and as the age is advancing, it is better to conduct Upanayana,otherwise there is no Guru Bala to both of your sons.The 1st son's Janma Rashi is Kataka ( Punarvasu-4th Pada ) and transit Guru is in 3rd from Kataka now.For your 2nd son,the Janma Rashi is Mithuna ( Ardra-1st Pada ) and transit Guru is passing over 4th house and both transits are considered evil.So if you are performing Guru Shanti,then only you can perform Upanayana for both of your sons. Please give your feedback. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas ji Namste The function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it. Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Prabodh, > > Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or two.Suppose if you postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for that ? > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas Ji Namste > > Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam > will be performed at Nagpur. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce. > > Prabodh Vekhande > Jai Jai Shankar > Har Har Shankar > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in > different places.May I know the names of those places and in which > place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ? > > > > I hope this helps you. > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste > > > > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at > > proper muhurta. > > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna) > > Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna) > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > Jai Jai Shankar > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote: > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > > > Dear Prabodh, > > > > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go through > > the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you. > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all > > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required. > > > > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as > > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information > > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras > > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service > > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards. > > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed. > > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty. > > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self. > > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic. > > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha. > > > > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on > > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions. > > > Please correct me if found wrong. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " > > > wrote: > > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members, > > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta > > > Padavi, > > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. > > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : > > > > jNmBdat! sÃmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme > > zu³taeNye, > > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø< > > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va. > > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, > > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>. > > > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà > sannanadhyäyo > > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| > > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà > > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| > > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät| > > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù|| > > > > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th > > > year.Some have > > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be > > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th > > year,then > > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta, > > > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best > > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and > > Revathi are > > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set ( > > > Astangata > > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more > > > important.According to > > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be > > transitting over > > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta > > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's > > > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana > > > and Shukla > > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, > > > Mitra and > > > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can > > > perform the > > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta > > > Madhaveeya says > > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in > > > 6th or > > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also > > > should have > > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from > > their > > > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his > > Father's > > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder > brother or > > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be > > > occupied by > > > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is > > > ok.Budha > > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or > > > Trikona > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per > > Prayoga > > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It > > > aslo says, > > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. > > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: > > > > ivà SyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÃme, > > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, > > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. > > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| > > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà | > > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù|| > > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th > > > year,for > > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the > > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is > good for > > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha > > > months > > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For > > Brahmins,Vasanta > > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas > > > Sharadrutu is > > > > advisible. > > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > > > > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÃ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygÃ<Ôma>. > > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj> > > > > zu³SsÃMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve. > > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| > > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù > > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave|| > > > > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing > > > Upavita ,the > > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru > > > should be in > > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra > > > should > > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in > > > 6-11-3 are > > > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not > > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. > > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna > > > Kendra : > > > > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<à à yCD, > > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!. > > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäà çca > prayacchanti > > > > nrubhyaù| > > > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà > tat|| > > > > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a > > > poet.If Guru > > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra > > makes a > > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in > > Kendra > > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna > > > Kendra,the > > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If > > > Ravi is in > > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental > > organisation.Kuja in a > > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons > > > and if > > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people > > > or low > > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna, > > > then > > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we > > > have to > > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta > > > Lagna. > > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited > > and for > > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like > > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, > > Ganda and > > > > Atiganda are prohibited. > > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > > > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which > > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified. > > > > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE > > keNÔenukªla> pre, > > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI, > > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>. > > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye > > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÃÃœu[aimhaepnyne à ae´a zuÉaiSsiÃda>. > > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäà çasthite| > > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| > > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé| > > > > saumyäà çeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù|| > > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye > > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaà çeñu çukrendvinä|| > > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe > > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù|| > > > > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in > > > 11th > > > > from Muhurta Lagna. > > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru > > > and Budha > > > > in Kendra in a good house. > > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and > Guru in > > > > strength in Kendra. > > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra in > > Lagna. > > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in > > > Kataka > > > > Rashi. > > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka > > > Vargothamamsha > > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. > > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in > > Meena > > > > Rashi. > > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi : > > > > > > > > ³...:[e à dae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, > > > > à aKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| > > > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|| > > > > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya > > > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are > > > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis > > > are Gala > > > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya > > > Tithis are > > > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the half > > day is > > > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all > > > Anadhyaya > > > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. > > > > > > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th > and 13th > > > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta > > > available > > > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna > > > Paksha can > > > > be considered. > > > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana > > > Muhurtas.Let us go > > > > through them also. > > > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra > > having > > > > Shubha Navamsha. > > > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and > > malefics in > > > > 11th house. > > > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in > > > Kendra > > > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. > > > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. > > > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and > > > Kuja in > > > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. > > > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic > > planets > > > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in > > > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house. > > > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in > 3-6-11. > > > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's > > > aspect,Guru in > > > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona. > > > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting > > > Chandra,Ravi in > > > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. > > > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient > > > Classics on > > > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] > > > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM > > > > varahamihira > > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste > > > > > > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be > > > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th. > > > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. > > > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd > > > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is > > > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should > > > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and > Moon > > > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house > > > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. > 5th may > > > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it > > > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once > you said > > > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava > should be > > > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am > > > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on > > > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to > be most > > > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan > > > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. > The Moon > > > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only > > > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in > > > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in > previous > > > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next > > > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. > > > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do > somethingg to > > > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > > > > > Dear Prabodh > > > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta > > > > Book. Does > > > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya > > > > arambha? Should > > > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am > copying > > > > this to > > > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > > > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr > Raman > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India > +91.6752.226269 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > > > > > ji Namste > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are > > > > many who > > > > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is > > > > concerned > > > > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? > > Should we > > > > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and > place > > > > as 2 or > > > > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person > > > > becomes Dwija. > > > > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and > > > karak for > > > > > second birth? > > > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am > > > > thinking > > > > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will > prefer > > > > a lagna > > > > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > > > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this > > > > it would > > > > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard > > work and > > > > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande > > > > > Jai Jai Shankar > > > > > Har Har Shankar > > > > > > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Chi.Prabodh, So you will be conducting Guru Shanti Japa with Homam /Havan seperately for 2 children.So 19000 Guru Mantra as per Rig Veda has to be chanted and on the day of Upanayana before you perform this Upanayana perform the Guru Shanti havan by giving 108 Ahutis to Agni Deva ,consisting of sugar,Ashwatta and Chickpeas and final Ahuti with Yellow coloured silk Dhoti. Now I had gone through various aspects of Muhurta classics and at present Shukra is Astangata or we call as Shukra Moudhya.But Classics like Muhurta Madhaveeyam, Prayoga Parijata say that for Upanayana Shukra Asta is acceptable but there should not be Guru Asta and for conducting marriage Shukra Asta and Guru Asta should not be there at all. Now after taking care of almost main Doshas and their nullifications, for your son Amol,I found 21st April is almost agreeable. Here are the details : Chi. Amol : Janma Lagna - Dhanu, Janma Rashi : Kataka, Nakshatra - Punarvasu-4th Pada. Upanayana Muhurta Lagna : 21/4/2005 between 11:29 and 11:52 AM,Kataka Lagna, Vargothama. Nakshatra on 21/4/2005 : Uttara Phalguni-Sadhaka Tara Shukla Paksha - Dwadashi Tithi indicating Yashas Dhruva Yoga, Balava Karana, Guru Vara ( Thursday ), Muhurta - Abhijit Lorded by Lord Vishnu, Nadika - 15th ie., Krittika indicating activities undertaken will lead to success. Hora - Chandra ( Benefic ). Now let us see what are the Doshas and nullifications of Doshas : 1) Udayastaih Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th should not be afflicted and here Kataka Lagna is aspected by exalted Kuja ( a malefic planet in nature ). Exception : As the Lagna is Vargothama,the aspect of malefic planet Kuja ceases. 2) Muhurta Lagna should not be the 8th from Natal Lagna or Chandra. Exception : If the lords of Natal Rashi and its 8th are the same or friendly or one freindly and the other neutral,then the evil effects of Lagna being of the 8th are removed. Now let us see any other Doshas are there.Now we know that Guru is Vakra or retrograde and Shukra is Asta.Also Guru (V) is placed in his inimical sign. NULLIFICATIONS OF THE ABOVE MAJOR DOSHAS : Guru or Shukra or Budha powerful in a Kendra removes thousands of Doshas in the Muhurta Chart.Here from Kataka Lagna ,Shukra is placed in 10th which becomes a powerful Kendra and in Navamsha also Shukra is placed in Lagna Kendra. Finally Lagna or Chandra Vargothama removes all possible Doshas.I found the above Muhurta almost good for your 1st son Amol. Now let me come to the Upanayana Muhurta Lagna chart for your 2nd son Mander Kumbha Lagna and Mithuna Janma rashi with Aridra Nakshatra. Date : 11/5/2005 Between 7-18 and 7-24 AM on Wednesday,Shukla Paksha - Triteeya,Sukarma Yoga,Gara Karana, Mrigashira Nakshatra - Parama Maitra Tara.Muhurta Devatha - Mitra. Lagna- Vrishabha with Shukra and exalted Chandra in it,Guru and Ketu in 5th,Shani in 3rd in Kataka,Kuja in 10th, Rahu in 11th and Surya with Budha in 12th. Now let us see what are the Doshas in the above Muhurta Chart: 1) Lagna is under Papa Kartari yoga. 2) Chandra with another Planet. 3) Treta Yugadi 4) Guru is Vakra and in Inimical Rashi. Now let us see the nullifications of above lot of Doshas : 1) Shukra well placed in Lagna removes thousand Doshas in a Muhurta Chart. 2) Shukra well dignified in Lagna being the Lagna lord removes all possible harmful Doshas. 3) The lord of the Lagna in a Kendra or 11th ( Here Shukra is lord of Lagna ) removes all possible Doshas like fire burns cotton. 4) An exalted planet in Lagna ( Here Chandra ) removes all possible Doshas. Now in the above Doshas, I have mentioned about Treta Yugadi as a Dosha.Here is a Shloka mentioning about the beginning of different Yugas as having Doshas.: kaitRkzu¬ nvmI vEzao zuÏ ÇutIyka, ma"³…:[e TVmavSya ïav[e c twa Tvma, kärtikaçukla navamé vaiçäkha çuddha trutéyakä| mäghakruñëe tvmävasyä çrävaëe ca tathä tvamä| The above mentioned days have Doshas while performing Upanayana and we have to avoid such days and if we select such a day,then we have to look for the nullifications as given above. I have tried many days and finally I arrive at above Upanayana Muhurtas for your both sons.This year Upanayana Muhurtas are very less. I hope the above Muhurtas will find help to you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas ji NamsteYes, I am aware of that and am doing Guru shanti for both. Accordingto Dharmasindu the 8th year is a Nityakala for the batu andvratabhandahn should be preferably done in either on 8th or 5th. Notmuch of the doshas are attracted in these years. So even though myyounger son has 4th Guru which is considred as bad but by doingregular guru shanti upanayanam can be performed. The purohit as wellhas agreed to this. My elder son has 3rd Guru which again not thatgood but shanti if done we can continue. This is what purohit hasadvised. It is really getting difficult and frustrating as it is notonly a religious function but social and domastic as well. I hope toget good(acceptable to all) muhurta for the function.Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh,> > Now I had gone through your both sons' chart and as the age isadvancing, it is better to conduct Upanayana,otherwise there is noGuru Bala to both of your sons.The 1st son's Janma Rashi is Kataka (Punarvasu-4th Pada ) and transit Guru is in 3rd from Kataka now.Foryour 2nd son,the Janma Rashi is Mithuna ( Ardra-1st Pada ) and transitGuru is passing over 4th house and both transits are consideredevil.So if you are performing Guru Shanti,then only you can performUpanayana for both of your sons.> > Please give your feedback.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> The function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it. > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or> two.Suppose if you postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for> that ?> > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas Ji Namste> > > > Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam> > will be performed at Nagpur.> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in> > different places.May I know the names of those places and in which> > place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?> > > > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > > > > > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at> > > proper muhurta.> > > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)> > > Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me gothrough> > > the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.> > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> > > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> > > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > > > > > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> > > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your> information> > > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> > > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service> > > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> > > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> > > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> > > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> > > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> > > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > > > > > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> > > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.> > > > Please correct me if found wrong.> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > > > > wrote:> > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained inMuhurta> > > > Padavi,> > > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > > > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme> > > zu³taeNye,> > > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.> > > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,> > > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > > > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà> > sannanadhyäyo> > > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> > > > year.Some have> > > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayanacan be> > > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th> > > year,then> > > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara,Hasta,> > > > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the> best> > > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and> > > Revathi are> > > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not beset (> > > > Astangata> > > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more> > > > important.According to> > > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be> > > transitting over> > > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> > > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > > > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi isadvisible.Uttarayana> > > > and Shukla> > > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,> > > > Mitra and> > > > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> > > > perform the> > > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta> > > > Madhaveeya says> > > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in> transit in> > > > 6th or> > > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also> > > > should have> > > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourablehouses from> > > their> > > > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his> > > Father's> > > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder> > brother or> > > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> > > > occupied by> > > > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in8th is> > > > ok.Budha> > > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either inKendra or> > > > Trikona> > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per> > > Prayoga> > > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered forUpanayana.It> > > > aslo says,> > > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.> > > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > > > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|> > > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th> > > > year,for> > > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12thyear,the> > > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is> > good for> > > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and> Mesha> > > > months> > > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For> > > Brahmins,Vasanta> > > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> > > > Sharadrutu is> > > > > advisible.> > > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>> > > > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> > > > Upavita ,the> > > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru> > > > should be in> > > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,> Chandra> > > > should> > > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in> > > > 6-11-3 are> > > > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is> also not> > > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets inLagna> > > > Kendra :> > > > > > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca> > prayacchanti> > > > > nrubhyaù|> > > > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà> > tat||> > > > > > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> > > > poet.If Guru> > > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendra> > > makes a> > > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in> > > Kendra> > > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna> > > > Kendra,the> > > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as hiscareer.If> > > > Ravi is in> > > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental> > > organisation.Kuja in a> > > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to> weapons> > > > and if> > > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evilpeople> > > > or low> > > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta> Lagna,> > > > then> > > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eyesight.Also we> > > > have to> > > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas fromMuhurta> > > > Lagna.> > > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited> > > and for> > > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,> > > Ganda and> > > > > Atiganda are prohibited.> > > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during> which> > > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get> nullified.> > > > > > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaE> > > keNÔenukªla> pre,> > > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > > > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||> > > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna> Kendra,Ravi in> > > > 11th> > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.> > > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd,and Guru> > > > and Budha> > > > > in Kendra in a good house.> > > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and> > Guru in> > > > > strength in Kendra.> > > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th andShukra in> > > Lagna.> > > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and> Chandra in> > > > Kataka> > > > > Rashi.> > > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> > > > Vargothamamsha> > > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in11th,Guru in> > > Meena> > > > > Rashi.> > > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > > > > > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > > > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > > > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > > > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya> > > > > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Grahaday are> > > > > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and ChaturdashiTithis> > > > are Gala> > > > > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya> > > > Tithis are> > > > > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,thehalf> > > day is> > > > > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasyaare all> > > > Anadhyaya> > > > > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.> > > > > > > > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th> > and 13th> > > > > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no goodMuhurta> > > > available> > > > > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna> > > > Paksha can> > > > > be considered.> > > > > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana> > > > Muhurtas.Let us go> > > > > through them also.> > > > > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement andChandra> > > having> > > > > Shubha Navamsha.> > > > > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and> > > malefics in> > > > > 11th house.> > > > > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and> Guru in> > > > Kendra> > > > > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.> > > > > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11thhouse.> > > > > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th,Shani and> > > > Kuja in> > > > > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.> > > > > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic> > > planets> > > > > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with> Guru in> > > > > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8thhouse.> > > > > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in> > 3-6-11.> > > > > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's> > > > aspect,Guru in> > > > > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.> > > > > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting> > > > Chandra,Ravi in> > > > > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.> > > > > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient> > > > Classics on> > > > > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]> > > > > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM> > > > > varahamihira > > > > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste> > > > > > > > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter> should be> > > > > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in> 6th/8th/12th.> > > > > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not havebenefic.> > > > > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be> in 2nd> > > > > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except whenlagna is> > > > > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon> should> > > > > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > > > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and> > Moon> > > > > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th> house> > > > > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th.> > 5th may> > > > > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be> because it> > > > > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once> > you said> > > > > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava> > should be> > > > > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > > > > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date> I am> > > > > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on> > > > > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to> > be most> > > > > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in> parivartan> > > > > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well.> > The Moon> > > > > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanyanavmansha. Only> > > > > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in> > > > > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in> > previous> > > > > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke.In next> > > > > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.> > > > > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do> > somethingg to> > > > > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya> > > > > > Dear Prabodh> > > > > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the> Muhurta> > > > > Book. Does> > > > > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya> > > > > arambha? Should> > > > > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am> > copying> > > > > this to> > > > > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.> > > > > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr> > Raman> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > > > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India> > +91.6752.226269> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > > === message truncated === India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Prabodh, Ok, I will try to get the Muhurta on 11/5/2005. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas ji NamsteThanks for giving the proper muhurtas for my both sons. I am reallygreatful to you. I may have problem in doing upanayan on two differentdays as there are many social-domastic aspects associated with it.Elders in the family did not approve of it. Please dont take itotherwise but can we get a muhurta for both on the same day. Thanks really for your Time and Astrology.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Chi.Prabodh,> > So you will be conducting Guru Shanti Japa with Homam /Havanseperately for 2 children.So 19000 Guru Mantra as per Rig Veda has tobe chanted and on the day of Upanayana before you perform thisUpanayana perform the Guru Shanti havan by giving 108 Ahutis to AgniDeva ,consisting of sugar,Ashwatta and Chickpeas and final Ahuti withYellow coloured silk Dhoti.> > Now I had gone through various aspects of Muhurta classics and atpresent Shukra is Astangata or we call as Shukra Moudhya.But Classicslike Muhurta Madhaveeyam, Prayoga Parijata say that for UpanayanaShukra Asta is acceptable but there should not be Guru Asta and forconducting marriage Shukra Asta and Guru Asta should not be there atall. Now after taking care of almost main Doshas and theirnullifications, for your son Amol,I found 21st April is almostagreeable. Here are the details :> > Chi. Amol : Janma Lagna - Dhanu,> > Janma Rashi : Kataka, Nakshatra - Punarvasu-4th Pada.> > Upanayana Muhurta Lagna : 21/4/2005 between 11:29 and 11:52AM,Kataka Lagna, Vargothama.> > Nakshatra on 21/4/2005 : Uttara Phalguni-Sadhaka Tara> > Shukla Paksha - Dwadashi Tithi indicating Yashas> > Dhruva Yoga, Balava Karana, Guru Vara ( Thursday ),> > Muhurta - Abhijit Lorded by Lord Vishnu,> > Nadika - 15th ie., Krittika indicating activities undertaken willlead to success.> > Hora - Chandra ( Benefic ).> > Now let us see what are the Doshas and nullifications of Doshas :> > 1) Udayastaih Shuddhi Hina - Lagna and 7th should not be afflictedand here Kataka Lagna is aspected by exalted Kuja ( a malefic planetin nature ).> > Exception : As the Lagna is Vargothama,the aspect of malefic planetKuja ceases.> > 2) Muhurta Lagna should not be the 8th from Natal Lagna or Chandra.> > Exception : If the lords of Natal Rashi and its 8th are the same orfriendly or one freindly and the other neutral,then the evil effectsof Lagna being of the 8th are removed.> > Now let us see any other Doshas are there.Now we know that Guru isVakra or retrograde and Shukra is Asta.Also Guru (V) is placed in hisinimical sign.> > NULLIFICATIONS OF THE ABOVE MAJOR DOSHAS :> > Guru or Shukra or Budha powerful in a Kendra removes thousands ofDoshas in the Muhurta Chart.Here from Kataka Lagna ,Shukra is placedin 10th which becomes a powerful Kendra and in Navamsha also Shukra isplaced in Lagna Kendra.> > Finally Lagna or Chandra Vargothama removes all possible Doshas.Ifound the above Muhurta almost good for your 1st son Amol.> > > > Now let me come to the Upanayana Muhurta Lagna chart for your 2ndson Mander Kumbha Lagna and Mithuna Janma rashi with Aridra Nakshatra.> > Date : 11/5/2005 Between 7-18 and 7-24 AM on Wednesday,Shukla Paksha- Triteeya,Sukarma Yoga,Gara Karana, Mrigashira Nakshatra - ParamaMaitra Tara.Muhurta Devatha - Mitra.> > Lagna- Vrishabha with Shukra and exalted Chandra in it,Guru and Ketuin 5th,Shani in 3rd in Kataka,Kuja in 10th, Rahu in 11th and Suryawith Budha in 12th.> > Now let us see what are the Doshas in the above Muhurta Chart:> > 1) Lagna is under Papa Kartari yoga.> > 2) Chandra with another Planet.> > 3) Treta Yugadi> > 4) Guru is Vakra and in Inimical Rashi.> > Now let us see the nullifications of above lot of Doshas :> > 1) Shukra well placed in Lagna removes thousand Doshas in a MuhurtaChart.> > 2) Shukra well dignified in Lagna being the Lagna lord removes allpossible harmful Doshas.> > 3) The lord of the Lagna in a Kendra or 11th ( Here Shukra is lordof Lagna ) removes all possible Doshas like fire burns cotton.> > 4) An exalted planet in Lagna ( Here Chandra ) removes all possibleDoshas.> > Now in the above Doshas, I have mentioned about Treta Yugadi as aDosha.Here is a Shloka mentioning about the beginning of differentYugas as having Doshas.:> > > > kaitRkzu¬ nvmI vEzao zuÏ ÇutIyka,> > ma"³…:[e TVmavSya ïav[e c twa Tvma,> > kärtikaçukla navamé vaiçäkha çuddha trutéyakä|> > mäghakruñëe tvmävasyä çrävaëe ca tathä tvamä|> > The above mentioned days have Doshas while performing Upanayana andwe have to avoid such days and if we select such a day,then we have tolook for the nullifications as given above.> > I have tried many days and finally I arrive at above UpanayanaMuhurtas for your both sons.This year Upanayana Muhurtas are very less.> > I hope the above Muhurtas will find help to you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > Yes, I am aware of that and am doing Guru shanti for both. According> to Dharmasindu the 8th year is a Nityakala for the batu and> vratabhandahn should be preferably done in either on 8th or 5th. Not> much of the doshas are attracted in these years. So even though my> younger son has 4th Guru which is considred as bad but by doing> regular guru shanti upanayanam can be performed. The purohit as well> has agreed to this. My elder son has 3rd Guru which again not that> good but shanti if done we can continue. This is what purohit has> advised. It is really getting difficult and frustrating as it is not> only a religious function but social and domastic as well. I hope to> get good(acceptable to all) muhurta for the function.> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > Now I had gone through your both sons' chart and as the age is> advancing, it is better to conduct Upanayana,otherwise there is no> Guru Bala to both of your sons.The 1st son's Janma Rashi is Kataka (> Punarvasu-4th Pada ) and transit Guru is in 3rd from Kataka now.For> your 2nd son,the Janma Rashi is Mithuna ( Ardra-1st Pada ) and transit> Guru is passing over 4th house and both transits are considered> evil.So if you are performing Guru Shanti,then only you can perform> Upanayana for both of your sons.> > > > Please give your feedback.> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > The function can not be before 20th of April. We can postpone it. > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > Thanks for your mail.I will come with a good Muhurta within a day or> > two.Suppose if you postpone or prepone the function, are you ready for> > that ?> > > > > > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Ji Namste> > > > > > Chi. Amol is born at Bhilai and Chi. Mandar at Nagpur. The Upnayanam> > > will be performed at Nagpur.> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > > > When I was casting the charts of your sons,both were born in> > > different places.May I know the names of those places and in which> > > place you wanted to perform Upanayana to your sons ?> > > > > > > > I hope this helps you.> > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji Namste> > > > > > > > Here are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive at> > > > proper muhurta.> > > > Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)> > > > Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.> > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > > > > > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabodh,> > > > > > > > > > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go> through> > > > the chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.> > > > > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> > > > > together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > > > > > > > > > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> > > > > possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your> > information> > > > > added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > > > > > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> > > > > 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service> > > > > oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> > > > > 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> > > > > 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> > > > > 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> > > > > 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> > > > > 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > > > > > > > > > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> > > > > 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.> > > > > Please correct me if found wrong.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > > > > > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > > > > > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in> Muhurta> > > > > Padavi,> > > > > > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > > > > > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > > > > > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòme> > > > zu³taeNye,> > > > > > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > > > > > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.> > > > > > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,> > > > > > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > > > > > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà> > > sannanadhyäyo> > > > > > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > > > > > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > > > > > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > > > > > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > > > > > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> > > > > year.Some have> > > > > > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana> can be> > > > > > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th> > > > year,then> > > > > > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara,> Hasta,> > > > > > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the> > best> > > > > > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and> > > > Revathi are> > > > > > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be> set (> > > > > Astangata> > > > > > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more> > > > > important.According to> > > > > > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be> > > > transitting over> > > > > > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> > > > > Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > > > > > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is> advisible.Uttarayana> > > > > and Shukla> > > > > > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed inUccha,> > > > > Mitra and> > > > > > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> > > > > perform the> > > > > > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta> > > > > Madhaveeya says> > > > > > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in> > transit in> > > > > 6th or> > > > > > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even theparents also> > > > > should have> > > > > > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable> houses from> > > > their> > > > > > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his> > > > Father's> > > > > > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder> > > brother or> > > > > > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> > > > > occupied by> > > > > > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in> 8th is> > > > > ok.Budha> > > > > > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in> Kendra or> > > > > Trikona> > > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays areprohibited.As per> > > > Prayoga> > > > > > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for> Upanayana.It> > > > > aslo says,> > > > > > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.> > > > > > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > > > > > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > > > > > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > > > > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > > > > > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > > > > > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|> > > > > > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > > > > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > > > > > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > > > > > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conductedat 7th> > > > > year,for> > > > > > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th> year,the> > > > > > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is> > > good for> > > > > > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and> > Mesha> > > > > months> > > > > > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For> > > > Brahmins,Vasanta> > > > > > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> > > > > Sharadrutu is> > > > > > advisible.> > > > > > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > > > > > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > > > > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > > > > > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>> > > > > > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > > > > > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > > > > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > > > > > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > > > > > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> > > > > Upavita ,the> > > > > > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma RashiGuru> > > > > should be in> > > > > > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna,> > Chandra> > > > > should> > > > > > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani andRahu in> > > > > 6-11-3 are> > > > > > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is> > also not> > > > > > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > > > > > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in> Lagna> > > > > Kendra :> > > > > > > > > > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > > > > > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > > > > > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca> > > prayacchanti> > > > > > nrubhyaù|> > > > > > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citramyadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà> > > tat||> > > > > > > > > > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> > > > > poet.If Guru> > > > > > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha inKendra> > > > makes a> > > > > > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planetsare in> > > > Kendra> > > > > > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in MuhurtaLagna> > > > > Kendra,the> > > > > > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his> career.If> > > > > Ravi is in> > > > > > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental> > > > organisation.Kuja in a> > > > > > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to> > weapons> > > > > and if> > > > > > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil> people> > > > > or low> > > > > > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta> > Lagna,> > > > > then> > > > > > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye> sight.Also we> > > > > have to> > > > > > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from> Muhurta> > > > > Lagna.> > > > > > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta isprohibited> > > > and for> > > > > > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > > > > > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,> > > > Ganda and> > > > > > Atiganda are prohibited.> > > > > > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > > > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during> > which> > > > > > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get> > nullified.> > > > > > > > > > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istaeguébuxaE> > > > keNÔenukªla> pre,> > > > > > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > > > > > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > > > > > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > > > > > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´azuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > > > > > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > > > > > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > > > > > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > > > > > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||> > > > > > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > > > > > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > > > > > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > > > > > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna> > Kendra,Ravi in> > > > > 11th> > > > > > from Muhurta Lagna.> > > > > > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd> ,and Guru> > > > > and Budha> > > > > > in Kendra in a good house.> > > > > > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and> > > Guru in> > > > > > strength in Kendra.> > > > > > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and> Shukra in> > > > Lagna.> > > > > > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and> > Chandra in> > > > > Kataka> > > > > > Rashi.> > > > > > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> > > > > Vargothamamsha> > > > > > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > > > > > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in> 11th,Guru in> > > > Meena> > > > > > Rashi.> > > > > > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > > > > > > > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > > > > > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > > > > > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > > > > > > > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna=== message truncated === India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2005 ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| Dear Sri Ramadas, Pranaams. I agree with you as far as the choice of vara is concerned. No doubt muhurta is different from natal horoscopy but what Sanjay was trying to suggest is that if the hora lord at the time of conducting the upanayana is the lord of the indicated bhava in the natal chart of the person for whom the upanayana is being performed, then the effects will be still more auspicious. That is why I had given the opinion of Kalyanavarma to support Sanjays point. You are absolutely right to exercise a lot of caution in the choice of a good muhurta for the upanayana of Prabodh's sons as it is very important for brahmins. regards Hari varahamihira , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao> wrote: > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Hari, > > I agree with you when we consider a bhava in a natal chart.But for Upanayana,the Muhurta Classics does not agree with either Tuesday or Saturday and neither their Horas.You know very well about the meaning of Uapanayana which is nothing but what we call as Brahmopadesham ie., initiation of Gayatri Mantra which is very important to any Dwija/Kshatriya/Vaishya. > > But for marriage, if we conduct marriages on either Tuesday or Saturday nights, then the Vara Dosha will not be there.Also the Scholars who wrote Muhurta Classics are of the opinion that if there are auspicious Vivaha Yogas on any of these 2 days, then also marriage can be conducted.But they never said about Upanayana. > > I hope this helps you. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > onlyhari <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah|| > > Dear Jyotisa, > > From Kalyana Varma's Saravali > > " The good effects relating to a bhava can be better reaped if an > enterprise relating to that Bhava is started in an Ascendant ruled by > the Lord of that Bhava, or, when the Lord thereof is in an Upachaya > House, or on the week-day, Hora, year, or month ruled by that > Bhava Lord. The good effects will be 25% by year Lord, 50% by month > Lord, 75% by Lord of week and 100% by Hora Lord. " > > Note the cent percent results ascribed to hora lord. This is in line > with what Sanjay is saying below. > > > > om namo bhagavate vÄsudevÄya > > > > > > Dear Ramdas ji > > > > > > NOT BLINDLY please. For example 7th lord is very good vara for > > marriage but if 7th lord is Mars then choosing tuesday can be > > terrible. In this way the vara is to be chosen. But hora is always > > beneficial irrespective of planet for example Mars hora will be good > > for the Upanayana of his son. > > > > > > Similarly if the 10th house is sunday, then the person cannot join > > job on sunday but chan choose good vara and then sun hora. > > regards > Hari > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Prabodh, Finally I have arrived at the Upanayana Muhurta for your both sons. 11.5.2005 –7-23 to 8-04 AM.Shukla Paksha, Triteeya, Treta Yugadi,Sukarma Yoga, Gara Karana,Mrigashira Nakshatra - Maitra Tara,Chandra Hora Muhurta : Mitra,VTN ( Vara Tithi Nakshatra ) Yoga : Siddha Yoga,Avastha- Jaya. Lagna is Vrishabha with Shukra and Exalted Chandra, Guru and Ketu in 5th, Shani in 3rd in Kataka, Kuja in 10th, Rahu in 11th and Surya, Budha in 12th. CONDITIONS THAT NEUTRALISES A LOT OF DOSHAS : Venus well placed in the Lagna suppresses a thousand evil influences, Mercury a hundred and Jupiter several thousand. Venus well dignified in the Lagna vanquishes all harmful forces. The lord of the Lagna in an angle or the 11th removes all Doshas as fire burns cotton. An exalted planet in the Lagna ( Chandra ) nullifies adverse influences. Now the Nakshatra on this day matches with both of your sons, Maitra tara and Parama Maitra Tara, the day is also Akshaya Triteeya which is a auspicious day.I suggest to do the Upanayana at the time mentioned above. The Muhurta is of 41 minutes which is very good as mentioned above.By this time you can initiate Gayatri Mantra to both of your sons. If you find any difficulty in the above Muhurta, let me know.But this is the best Muhurta available on this day and excellent Muhurta during May 2005. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar wrote: Dear Ramdas ji NamsteHere are the details. Please go throught it guide me to arrive atproper muhurta.Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna)Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna)Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology.Prabodh VekhandeJai Jai ShankarHar Har Shankarvarahamihira , Ramadas Rao wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh,> > Please send me the birth particulars of the Child.Let me go throughthe chart and Muhurta chart and write back to you.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande wrote: > > Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste> > Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply all> together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required.> > There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much as> possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your information> added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > 1) get the benefics in the kendras> 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu service> oriented which is not bad in todays standards.> 3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed.> 4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty.> 5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self.> 6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic.> 7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha.> > With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on> 29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions.> Please correct me if found wrong.> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> Jai Jai Shankar> Har Har Shankar> > > > > > varahamihira , "Ramadas Rao" > wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Prabodh and other listed members,> > I am giving below about Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta> Padavi,> > Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc.> > Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi :> > jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p> inzakRStpis )i[k...jaE caòmezu³taeNye,> > te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR r<Ø<> > ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va.> > ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!,> > %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>.> > janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà sannanadhyäyo> > niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye|> > te randhra janmacandrät gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà> > kruñëaù pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä||> > atyäpadi navame daçame vä kuryät|> > upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù||> > > > Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th> year.Some have> > said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be> > performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8thyear,then> > Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, Hasta,> > Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and Uttarabhadra are the best> > Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha andRevathi are> > middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra should not be set (> Astangata> > ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more> important.According to> > Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should betransitting over> > 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta> Madhaveeyam,even Guru's> > transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana> and Shukla> > Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha,> Mitra and> > Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can> perform the> > Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta> Madhaveeya says> > for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in> 6th or> > 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also> should have> > Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses fromtheir> > Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or hisFather's> > Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder brother or> > Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th should not be> occupied by> > Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is> ok.Budha> > in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or> Trikona> > from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As perPrayoga> > Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for Upanayana.It> aslo says,> > Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable.> > Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam:> > ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme,> > rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy tu Öadze, > > sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<,> > ïeò< me; H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>.> > viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame|> > räjanyasya caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| > > süryo gomithunäçrite tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà|> > çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige gréñme çaradanyayoù||> > Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana has to be conducted at 7th> year,for> > Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the> > performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is good for> > Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha> months> > are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.ForBrahmins,Vasanta> > Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma Ritu and for Vaishyas> Sharadrutu is> > advisible.> > Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > > > ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae > > jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! praÉv irpUn! mu®vaNygí<Ôma>.> > ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj>> > zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve.> > karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito > > jévo riùpha suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù||> > krüräççatrubhavänujeñu çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù> > çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo dvitéyodbhave||> > > > Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing> Upavita ,the> > Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru> should be in> > 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra> should> > not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in> 6-11-3 are> > agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not> > agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also.> > Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna> Kendra :> > > > kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD,> > gu[sy SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!.> > kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca prayacchanti> > nrubhyaù|> > guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat||> > > > If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a> poet.If Guru> > is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in Kendramakes a> > Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are inKendra> > ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in Muhurta Lagna> Kendra,the> > Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If> Ravi is in> > Kendra, then he will be working in a governmentalorganisation.Kuja in a> > Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons> and if> > Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people> or low> > caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna,> then> > the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we> have to> > consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta> Lagna.> > As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibitedand for> > marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like> > Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti,Ganda and> > Atiganda are prohibited.> > Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam :> > Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which> > Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified.> > > > keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa> l¶awaRnujge istae guébuxaEkeNÔenukªla> pre,> > Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI,> > saEMya kmaRy l¶iSwta>.> > gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye> > mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja> oe> yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>.> > kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite|> > lagnärthänujage sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare|> > svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù kendre trikoëe balé|> > saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya lagnasthitäù||> > gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye> > ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä||> > kheantye vä vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe> > yogässaptanruëämihopanayane proktä çubhässiddhidäù||> > > > Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in> 11th> > from Muhurta Lagna.> > 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru> and Budha> > in Kendra in a good house.> > 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) and Guru in> > strength in Kendra.> > 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and Shukra inLagna.> > 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in> Kataka> > Rashi.> > 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka> Vargothamamsha> > and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha.> > 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru inMeena> > Rashi.> > Now as per Narada Maharshi :> > > > ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke,> > àaKs> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake|> > präksandhyä garjite neñöo vratabandho galagrahe||> > > > Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya> > Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are> > prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis> are Gala> > Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya> Tithis are> > prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the halfday is> > Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all> Anadhyaya> > days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana.> > > > When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th> > Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta> available> > in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna> Paksha can> > be considered.> > Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana> Muhurtas.Let us go> > through them also.> > 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandrahaving> > Shubha Navamsha.> > 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses andmalefics in> > 11th house.> > 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in> Kendra> > or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna.> > 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house.> > 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and> Kuja in> > 11th or in 3rd from Lagna.> > 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling beneficplanets> > ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with Guru in> > Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th and 8th house.> > 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11.> > 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's> aspect,Guru in> > Lagna Kendra or Trikona.> > 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting> Chandra,Ravi in> > 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses.> > I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient> Classics on> > Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar]> > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM> > varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay ji Namste> > > > Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be> > well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th.> > Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic.> > Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd> > or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is> > cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should> > not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > > I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna and Moon> > and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house> > for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or 5th. 5th may> > be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it> > is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly once you said> > about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava should be> > empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > > > > I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am> > finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on> > 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems to be most> > suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan> > palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as well. The Moon> > is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only> > problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in> > kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in previous> > lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next> > lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th.> > So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do somethingg to> > nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis?> > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > Jai Jai Shankar> > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath" wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya> > > Dear Prabodh> > > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta> > Book. Does> > > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya> > arambha? Should> > > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying> > this to> > > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits.> > > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given by Dr Raman> > > Best Wishes> > > Sanjay Rath> > > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > > > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay > > > > ji Namste> > > > > > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are> > many who> > > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is> > concerned> > > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam?Should we> > > consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and place> > as 2 or> > > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person> > becomes Dwija.> > > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and> karak for> > > second birth? > > > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am> > thinking> > > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I will prefer> > a lagna> > > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > > > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this> > it would> > > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hardwork and> > > patience which is required for any learning. Please giude.> > > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > > > > > Prabodh Vekhande> > > Jai Jai Shankar> > > Har Har Shankar> > > > > > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!> > > http://uk.messenger.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat|> > http://www.varahamihira > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
