psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

July 17, 2009

Dear Suryaprakash ji,

Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign under consideration) be afflicted by -

3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered. If we are for health,

Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign

2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign

3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp

3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also.

Regards

Suprakash Ghosh

-

Luther Rath

Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM

Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Respected Punitji,

I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly.

Regards.

Dr. Rath

Punit Pandey <punitp

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear Lajmi ji,

Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.

Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -

1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and...

What does it mean -

a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?

c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?

d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?

2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?

c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad.

a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?

3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )

a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)

c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.

d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12

I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible.

To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion.

I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Punit,

First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...

To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 :

According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,

hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease.

Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.

If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment...

If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses...

The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .

The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...

And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. ..

With kind regards,

Yogesh Lajmi...

GOOD LUCK !

Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Respected Sirs,

I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.

Hope some one will do needful.

With my respect to one and all.

Dr. Rath

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM

Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear Lajmi ji,

The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Members,

As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :

1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and...

2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )

For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book

" MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.com

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance

Namaste Sagar Ji,

You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?

I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so

there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info

may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]

thanks

rashmi

Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance

HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.

SSBrahmaanda

Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.com

Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance

HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.

Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology'

RegardsSahhasra Saagara

Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.com

Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance

Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi

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July 17, 2009

Dear VGR,

Thanking you for the information.

Dr. Rath

vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:35:28 AMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Rathji Pranam,Guruji considered western aspects in KP. He mentioned in some illustrations in His readers.In reader one he devoted one chapter on aspects.(P.no. 109). He also opined that "there is no shame in including the western aspects when they have advanced and are correct."" whenever a planet aspects a house and the planet or planets occupying said house,then one should combine the results indicated by the house under consideration , the sign in which the house is and the planet or planets posited there in by nature and by lordship and above all the lords of nakshathra and sub portion of the nakshathra in which the planet was." (reader one P.no.112) etcGuruji bless us

all !!!!regardsVGR--- On Thu, 16/7/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

Luther Rath <rathluther >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases@gro ups.comThursday, 16 July, 2009, 11:33 AM

Respected Punitji,

I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly.

Regards.

Dr. Rath

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>@gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear Lajmi ji,

Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.

Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -

1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and...

What does it mean -

a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?

c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?

d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?

2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?

c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad.

a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?

3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )

a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)

c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.

d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12

I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible.

To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion.

I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Punit,

First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...

To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 :

According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,

hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease.

Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.

If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment...

If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses...

The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .

The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...

And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. ..

With kind regards,

Yogesh Lajmi...

GOOD LUCK !

Luther Rath <rathluther > @gro ups.comWednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Respected Sirs,

I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.

Hope some one will do needful.

With my respect to one and all.

Dr. Rath

Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear Lajmi ji,

The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Members,

As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :

1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and...

2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )

For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book

"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.

With the very best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

GOOD LUCK !

rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM Physcological imbalance

Namaste Sagar Ji,

You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?

I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so

there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info

may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]

thanks

rashmi

Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AMRe: Physcological imbalance

HiI too was literally mad for 4 years.On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.SSBrahmaanda

Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PMRe: Physcological imbalance

HiMoon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.Note:this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.Depends on the other aspects of the chart.In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'RegardsSahhasra Saagara

Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >@gro ups.comTuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM Physcological imbalance

Dear all,In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury? with regardstirulaxmi

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July 17, 2009

Dear Friends,

1. In all practical examples of the KP Readers, Hindu aspects have been used.

2. Have you fouund any example where Western aspets are effective used?

3. Pl note:

above all the lords of nakshathra and sub portion of the nakshathra in which

the planet was. " (reader one P.no.112) etc

>

Regards,

tw

, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

>

> Dear VGR,

> Thanking you for the information.

> Dr. Rath

>

> ________________________________

> vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1

>

> Friday, July 17, 2009 8:35:28 AM

> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

>

> Rathji Pranam,

>

> Guruji considered western aspects in KP. He mentioned in some illustrations in

His readers.In reader one he devoted one chapter on aspects.(P.no. 109). He

also opined that " there is no shame in including the western aspects when they

have advanced and are correct. "

>

> " whenever a planet aspects a house and the planet or planets occupying said

house,then one should combine the results indicated by the house under

consideration , the sign in which the house is and the planet or planets posited

there in by nature and by lordship and above all the lords of nakshathra and

sub portion of the nakshathra in which the planet was. " (reader one P.no.112)

etc

>

> Guruji bless us all !!!!

>

> regards

>

> VGR

>

> --- On Thu, 16/7/09, Luther Rath <rathluther > wrote:

>

> >Luther Rath <rathluther >

> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >@gro ups.com

> >Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 11:33 AM

> >

> >Respected Punitji,

> >I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a

defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the

aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly.

> >Regards.

> >Dr. Rath

> >

> ________________________________

> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> >@gro ups.com

> >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM

> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >

> >Dear Lajmi ji,

> >

> >Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' .

I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology,

but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires

further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of

these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand

by a KP astrologer.

> >

> >Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one

by one -

> >

> >1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted...and...

> >What does it mean -

> >a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary

aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?

> >d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect

from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?

> >

> >2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

> >a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of

6, 8, 12?

> >c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western

aspects are classified as either good or bad.

> >a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?

> >

> >3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth

house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental

disorders... )

> >a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At

least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)

> >c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.

> >d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12

> >

> >I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context

of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity

back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as

possible.

> >

> >To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet'

and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will

become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion.

> >

> >I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.

> >

> >Thanks & Regards,

> >

> >Punit Pandey

> >

> >On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

wrote:

> >

> >Dear Punit,

> >> First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple

English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions

do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct

from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so

on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is

due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this

is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...

> >> To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd

Edition...1994 :

> >> According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the

VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,

> >>hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor

about the disease.

> >> Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the

Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI &

Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.

> >> If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong

significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable

ailment...

> >> If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to

Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of

the significators, of these houses...

> >> The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses

related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth

and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .

> >> The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most

K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...

> >> And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book

carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the

poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim

translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,

books...quite unfortunately. ..

> >> With kind regards,

> >> Yogesh Lajmi...

> >> GOOD LUCK !

> >>

> ________________________________

> Luther Rath <rathluther >

> >>

> >>@gro ups.com

> >>Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM

> >>

> >>Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >>

> >>Respected Sirs,

> >>I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of

'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to

define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects

of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects?

In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are

malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it

is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.

> >>Hope some one will do needful.

> >>With my respect to one and all.

> >>Dr. Rath

> >>

> ________________________________

> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> >>

> >>@gro ups.com

> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM

> >>Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >>

> >>Dear Lajmi ji,

> >>

> >>The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP

astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be

avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so

that KP beginners can understand it.

> >>

> >>Thanks & Regards,

> >>

> >>Punit Pandey

> >>

> >>On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

wrote:

> >>

> >>>

> >>>Dear Members,

> >>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused

if :

> >>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna

andit is afflicted...and...

> >>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are

afflicted...and....

> >>> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is

signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of

conciousness and mental disorders... )

> >>> For more detailed information members are

recommended to read the excellent book

> >>> " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.

> >>>

> >>> With the very best wishes,

> >>> Yogesh Lajmi.

> >>> GOOD LUCK !

> >>>

> ________________________________

> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM

> >>> Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Namaste Sagar Ji,

> >>>

> >>>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is

it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls

confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit

each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active

but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?

> >>>

> >>>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he

is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because

then he gets emotinal right away so

> >>>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info

> >>>

> >>>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]

> >>>

> >>>thanks

> >>>rashmi

> >>>

> ________________________________

> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM

> >>>Re: Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Hi

> >>>I too was literally mad for 4 years.

> >>>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not

in my control.

> >>>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.

> >>>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.

> >>>SSBrahmaanda

> >>>

> ________________________________

> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM

> >>>Re: Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Hi

> >>>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental

imbalance.

> >>>Note:

> >>>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research

scholars too.

> >>>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical

lore was great which live long.

> >>>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by

his pen.

> >>>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally

disturbed etc.

> >>>Depends on the other aspects of the chart.

> >>>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic dots and

percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology'

> >>>Regards

> >>>Sahhasra Saagara

> >>>

> ________________________________

> Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM

> >>> Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Dear all,

> >>>

> >>>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the

chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury?

> >>>

> >>>with regards

> >>>tirulaxmi

> >>>

> >>>________________________________

> Looking for local information? Find it on Local

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> >>>

> >>

> >

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July 17, 2009

Tinwinji Pranam,sir in Vth reader p.no.136 "the aspect of kuja is passed on to budha through sani by trine aspect " p.no. 127 Vth reader the benificial aspect to a planet or an adverse aspect to it will be enjoyed or experienced by a person during their conjoined periods ... etc " p.no.196 (d) according to westernn system of prediction lord of 7 mars squares its oroginal position and opposes both jupiter and saturn."above all the lords of nakshathra and sub portion of the nakshathra in which the planet was." (reader one P.no.112) etc "i think this is the continuation of other significations of the aspected planet. that means in prefrence to an aspected planet`s signification of ownership and occupation we have to give more importance to the aspected planets star and sub

significations.because on page no.125 reads as follows :"Similarly, find out whether the aspecting planet is a benific by lordship, whether he is dignified or afflicted, benificial or adverse by occupation and whether it aspects from a sign congenial to its nature..................It is also inportant to note who is the lord of the constellation in which aspecting planet is situated. " may be i am wrong....If i am forgive my ignorance....Guruji bless us allregardsVGR--- On Fri, 17/7/09, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

Imbalance/diseases Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 3:55 PM

Dear Friends,

1. In all practical examples of the KP Readers, Hindu aspects have been used.

2. Have you fouund any example where Western aspets are effective used?

3. Pl note:

above all the lords of nakshathra and sub portion of the nakshathra in which the planet was." (reader one P.no.112) etc

>

Regards,

tw

@gro ups.com, Luther Rath <rathluther@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear VGR,

> Thanking you for the information.

> Dr. Rath

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> vgr pavan <vgr_pavan1@ ...>

> @gro ups.com

> Friday, July 17, 2009 8:35:28 AM

> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

>

> Rathji Pranam,

>

> Guruji considered western aspects in KP. He mentioned in some illustrations in His readers.In reader one he devoted one chapter on aspects.(P.no. 109). He also opined that "there is no shame in including the western aspects when they have advanced and are correct."

>

> "whenever a planet aspects a house and the planet or planets occupying said house,then one should combine the results indicated by the house under consideration , the sign in which the house is and the planet or planets posited there in by nature and by lordship and above all the lords of nakshathra and sub portion of the nakshathra in which the planet was." (reader one P.no.112) etc

>

> Guruji bless us all !!!!

>

> regards

>

> VGR

>

> --- On Thu, 16/7/09, Luther Rath <rathluther> wrote:

>

> >Luther Rath <rathluther>

> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >@gro ups.com

> >Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 11:33 AM

> >

> >Respected Punitji,

> >I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly.

> >Regards.

> >Dr. Rath

> >

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> >@gro ups.com

> >Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM

> >Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >

> >Dear Lajmi ji,

> >

> >Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.

> >

> >Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -

> >

> >1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...

> >What does it mean -

> >a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?

> >d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?

> >

> >2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....

> >a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad.

> >a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?

> >

> >3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )

> >a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?

> >b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)

> >c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.

> >d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12

> >

> >I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible.

> >

> >To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion.

> >

> >I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.

> >

> >Thanks & Regards,

> >

> >Punit Pandey

> >

> >On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

> >

> >Dear Punit,

> >> First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction' (are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....aninfliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...

> >> To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd Edition...1994 :

> >> According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth danger,and the XIIth,

> >>hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final deciding factor about the disease.

> >> Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.

> >> If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an incureable ailment...

> >> If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint periods of the significators, of these houses...

> >> The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .

> >> The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P. Followers have already read this enlightening book...

> >> And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co., books...quite unfortunately. ..

> >> With kind regards,

> >> Yogesh Lajmi...

> >> GOOD LUCK !

> >>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Luther Rath <rathluther>

> >>

> >>@gro ups.com

> >>Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM

> >>

> >>Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >>

> >>Respected Sirs,

> >>I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things are to be clerified yet for KP followers.

> >>Hope some one will do needful.

> >>With my respect to one and all.

> >>Dr. Rath

> >>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> >>

> >>@gro ups.com

> >>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM

> >>Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >>

> >>Dear Lajmi ji,

> >>

> >>The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.

> >>

> >>Thanks & Regards,

> >>

> >>Punit Pandey

> >>

> >>On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

> >>

> >>>

> >>>Dear Members,

> >>> As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :

> >>> 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna andit is afflicted... and...

> >>> 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....

> >>> 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )

> >>> For more detailed information members are recommended to read the excellent book

> >>>"MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary Ramamurthy.

> >>>

> >>> With the very best wishes,

> >>> Yogesh Lajmi.

> >>> GOOD LUCK !

> >>>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM

> >>> Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Namaste Sagar Ji,

> >>>

> >>>You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may be in later older age could get mental disorders?

> >>>

> >>>I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so

> >>>there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info

> >>>

> >>>may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]

> >>>

> >>>thanks

> >>>rashmi

> >>>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM

> >>>Re: Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Hi

> >>>I too was literally mad for 4 years.

> >>>On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di was not in my control.

> >>>Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.

> >>>I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.

> >>>SSBrahmaanda

> >>>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM

> >>>Re: Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Hi

> >>>Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence on mental imbalance.

> >>>Note:

> >>>this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint, research scholars too.

> >>>Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his Philoshophical lore was great which live long.

> >>>Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great works/books by his pen.

> >>>In very few cases these three combination make mental worries/mentally disturbed etc.

> >>>Depends on the other aspects of the chart.

> >>>In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'

> >>>Regards

> >>>Sahhasra Saagara

> >>>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Laxmi T <tirulaxmi >

> >>>@gro ups.com

> >>>Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM

> >>> Physcological imbalance

> >>>

> >>>Dear all,

> >>>

> >>>In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of moon and mercury?

> >>>

> >>>with regards

> >>>tirulaxmi

> >>>

> >>>_________ _________ _________ _____

> Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> >>>_________ _________ _________ _____

> Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> >>>

> >>

> >

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

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July 18, 2009

Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.

Regards

Suprakash

-

Punit Pandey

Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM

Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear Suryaprakash ji,

Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign under consideration) be afflicted by -

3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered. If we are for health,

Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign

2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign

3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp

3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also.

Regards

Suprakash Ghosh

-

Luther Rath

Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM

Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Respected Punitji,

I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not approve it clearly.

Regards.

Dr. Rath

Punit Pandey <punitp > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PMRe: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear Lajmi ji,

Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP astrologer.

Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all three rules one by one -

1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is afflicted...and...

What does it mean -

a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?

c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?

d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?

2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the significators of 6, 8, 12?

c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all western aspects are classified as either good or bad.

a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?

3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness and mental disorders... )

a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?

b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6, 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible definition to me)

c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.

d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12

I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and should be avoided as much as possible.

To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our discussion.

I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

Dear Punit,

First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/ weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I suppose it serves the limited purpose...