psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

July 23, 2009

Dear Friends,

The 4 step theory based " afflicted " ideas, not applied or applicable in 4 step

theory, cannot be applied in KP.

Regards,

tw

, " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh

wrote:

>

> Dear TWji

>

> 1.Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.

>

> 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification.

Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.

>

> 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well as

the cusp to which it makes conjunction..both results will be there.

>

> 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is

helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking

2nd house for marriage.

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

> -

> tw853

>

> Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM

> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

>

> Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,

> 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a

> rasi like Aris to be called cusp.

> 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, " afflicted " is not

> used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.

> 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both

> before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong

> signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes is

> taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken

> to be effective.

> 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house

> cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.

> Thanks and regards,

> tw

>

> , " Suprakash Ghosh "

> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear TWji

> >

> > My clarifications are as follows:

> >

> > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house. In the same logic,

> begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.

> >

> > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in

> star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same house

> repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may

> be considered.(selection of significator at each level should be as per

> 4step theory guideline)

> >

> > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,

> the planet is already in the bhava)

> >

> > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of

> them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to

> that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and

> 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)

> >

> > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka

> And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other

> bhavas also.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> > -

> > tw853

> >

> > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM

> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases

> >

> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,

> > Could you kindly clarify:

> > 1. whether do you mean " Aris Rasi " starts from 0 deg zodiac,

> otherwise why Aris Rasi is called " Cusp of Aris " ?

> > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4

> step theory?

> > 3. Does a strong significator " posited close to the cusp " mean

> posited within the orb of 3deg " before the cusp " or " before and after

> the cusp " ?

> > 4. In " if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12

> or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself " , what is the difference between strong

> significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha

> itself?

> > 4. Does " For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also. " mean to consider

> Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?

> > Thanks and regards,

> > tw

> >

> > , " Suprakash Ghosh "

> suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > > -

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM

> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases

> > >

> > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,

> > >

> > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign

> under consideration) be afflicted by -

> > >

> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp

> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and

> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered. If we

> are for health,

> > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign

> > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign

> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp

> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and

> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

> > >

> > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong

> significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life,

> consider Badhaka/maraka also.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh

> > >

> > > -

> > > Luther Rath

> > >

> > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM

> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases

> > >

> > > Respected Punitji,

> > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in

> search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In

> my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not

> approve it clearly.

> > > Regards.

> > > Dr. Rath

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > Punit Pandey punitp@

> > >

> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM

> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases

> > >

> > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word

> 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of

> traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in

> the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly

> mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the

> KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP

> astrologer.

> > >

> > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all

> three rules one by one -

> > >

> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is

> afflicted...and...

> > > What does it mean -

> > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary

> aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?

> > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary

> aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?

> > >

> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

> > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the

> significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all

> western aspects are classified as either good or bad.

> > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?

> > >

> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the

> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness

> and mental disorders... )

> > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,

> 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible

> definition to me)

> > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.

> > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12

> > >

> > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in

> the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements

> bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and

> should be avoided as much as possible.

> > >

> > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication

> to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life

> of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our

> discussion.

> > >

> > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Punit,

> > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English

> words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions

> do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct

> from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so

> on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an

> affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/

> weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I

> suppose it serves the limited purpose...

> > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd

> Edition...1994 :

> > > According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth

> danger,and the XIIth,

> > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final

> deciding factor about the disease.

> > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the

> Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to

> the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.

> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong

> significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an

> incureable ailment...

> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to

> Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint

> periods of the significators, of these houses...

> > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related

> to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth

> and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .

> > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.

> Followers have already read this enlightening book...

> > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully

> and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor

> quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim

> translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,

> books...quite unfortunately. ..

> > > With kind regards,

> > > Yogesh Lajmi...

> > > GOOD LUCK !

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > Luther Rath rathluther >

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > >

> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM

> > >

> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases

> > >

> > > Respected Sirs,

> > >

> > > I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the

> definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP

> Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp

> is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil

> aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is

> that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all

> ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things

> are to be clerified yet for KP followers.

> > >

> > > Hope some one will do needful.

> > >

> > > With my respect to one and all.

> > >

> > > Dr. Rath

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM

> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases

> > >

> > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > >

> > > The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather

> than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology

> and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more

> in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > > As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :

> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is

> afflicted...and...

> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the

> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness

> and mental disorders... )

> > > For more detailed information members are recommended to read the

> excellent book

> > > " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary

> Ramamurthy.

> > >

> > > With the very best wishes,

> > > Yogesh Lajmi.

> > > GOOD LUCK !

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM

> > > Physcological imbalance

> > >

> > > Namaste Sagar Ji,

> > >

> > > You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental

> disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or

> more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one

> kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its

> all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may

> be in later older age could get mental disorders?

> > >

> > > I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even

> though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any

> one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so

> > > there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info

> > >

> > > may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > rashmi

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM

> > > Re: Physcological imbalance

> > >

> > > Hi

> > > I too was literally mad for 4 years.

> > > On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di

> was not in my control.

> > > Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.

> > > I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.

> > > SSBrahmaanda

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM

> > > Re: Physcological imbalance

> > >

> > > Hi

> > > Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence

> on mental imbalance.

> > > Note:

> > > this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint,

> research scholars too.

> > > Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his

> Philoshophical lore was great which live long.

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great

> works/books by his pen.

> > > In very few cases these three combination make mental

> worries/mentally disturbed etc.

> > > Depends on the other aspects of the chart.

> > > In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic

> dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology'

> > > Regards

> > > Sahhasra Saagara

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > Laxmi T tirulaxmi >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM

> > > Physcological imbalance

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental

> fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of

> moon and mercury?

> > >

> > > with regards

> > > tirulaxmi

> > >

> > > -------------------------

> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> > >

> > > -------------------------

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> > >

> >

>

July 23, 2009

dear friends,

there are no wordings " afflicted " in my developed 4 step theory.

this is for the information

-sunil gondhalekar

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Friends,The 4 step theory based " afflicted " ideas, not applied or applicable in 4 step theory, cannot be applied in KP.

Regards,tw , " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh wrote:>> Dear TWji

> > 1.Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.> > 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification. Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.

> > 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well as the cusp to which it makes conjunction..both results will be there.> > 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking 2nd house for marriage.

> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > - > tw853 >

> Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a

> rasi like Aris to be called cusp.> 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, " afflicted " is not> used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.> 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both

> before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong> signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes is> taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken

> to be effective.> 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house> cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.> Thanks and regards,> tw> > , " Suprakash Ghosh "

> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear TWji> >> > My clarifications are as follows:> >> > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house. In the same logic,

> begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.> >> > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in> star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same house> repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may

> be considered.(selection of significator at each level should be as per> 4step theory guideline)> >> > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,> the planet is already in the bhava)

> >> > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of> them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to> that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and

> 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)> >> > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka> And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other

> bhavas also.> >> > Regards> >> > Suprakash> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -

> > tw853> > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases> >> >> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> > Could you kindly clarify:> > 1. whether do you mean " Aris Rasi " starts from 0 deg zodiac,> otherwise why Aris Rasi is called " Cusp of Aris " ?

> > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4> step theory?> > 3. Does a strong significator " posited close to the cusp " mean> posited within the orb of 3deg " before the cusp " or " before and after

> the cusp " ?> > 4. In " if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12> or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself " , what is the difference between strong> significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha

> itself?> > 4. Does " For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also. " mean to consider> Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw

> >> > , " Suprakash Ghosh " > suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:> > >> > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.

> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash> > >> > >> > > -> > > Punit Pandey> > >

> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,

> > >> > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign> under consideration) be afflicted by -> > >> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp

> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey

> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >

> > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered. If we> are for health,> > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign> > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign

> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >

> > >> > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong> significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life,> consider Badhaka/maraka also.> > >

> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash Ghosh> > >> > > -> > > Luther Rath> > >

> > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >

> > > Respected Punitji,> > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in> search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In> my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not

> approve it clearly.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------

> > > Punit Pandey punitp@> > > > > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word> 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of

> traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in> the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly> mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the

> KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP> astrologer.> > >> > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all> three rules one by one -

> > >> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted...and...> > > What does it mean -> > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary

> aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > >> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....> > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the> significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all> western aspects are classified as either good or bad.

> > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness

> and mental disorders... )> > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,> 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible

> definition to me)> > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.> > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > >> > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in

> the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements> bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and> should be avoided as much as possible.> > >

> > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication> to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life> of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our

> discussion.> > >> > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey

> > >> > >> > >> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >

> > > Dear Punit,> > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English> words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions> do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct

> from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so> on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an> affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/

> weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I> suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd> Edition...1994 :

> > > According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth> danger,and the XIIth,> > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final> deciding factor about the disease.

> > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the> Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to> the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.

> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong> significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an> incureable ailment...> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to

> Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint> periods of the significators, of these houses...> > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related

> to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth> and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.> Followers have already read this enlightening book...

> > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully> and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor> quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim

> translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,> books...quite unfortunately. ..> > > With kind regards,> > > Yogesh Lajmi...> > > GOOD LUCK !

> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Luther Rath rathluther >

> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM> > >> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Sirs,> > >> > > I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the

> definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP> Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp> is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil

> aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is> that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all> ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things

> are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> > >> > > Hope some one will do needful.> > >> > > With my respect to one and all.> > >> > > Dr. Rath

> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather

> than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology> and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more> in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.

> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@

> > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > > As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :

> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted...and...> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the

> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > For more detailed information members are recommended to read the> excellent book

> > > " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary> Ramamurthy.> > >> > > With the very best wishes,> > > Yogesh Lajmi.> > > GOOD LUCK !

> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >

> > >> > >> > > Namaste Sagar Ji,> > >> > > You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental> disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or

> more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one> kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its> all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may

> be in later older age could get mental disorders?> > >> > > I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even> though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any

> one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> > > there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> > >> > > may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]

> > >> > > thanks> > > rashmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance

> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > I too was literally mad for 4 years.> > > On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di> was not in my control.

> > > Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> > > I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> > > SSBrahmaanda> > >> > >> > >> > >

> > > -------------------------> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence

> on mental imbalance.> > > Note:> > > this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint,> research scholars too.> > > Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his

> Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> > > Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great> works/books by his pen.> > > In very few cases these three combination make mental

> worries/mentally disturbed etc.> > > Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> > > In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic> dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology'

> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Laxmi T tirulaxmi >

> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >

> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental> fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of

> moon and mercury?> > >> > > with regards> > > tirulaxmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------

> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> > >> >>

July 23, 2009

Dear All Seniors, & members,

I am just keeping my details for the study case in this current subject of Mental Imbalance.

I am suffering from mental disorder called OCD(OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER) ssince @last 2,3 years. taking consultation & medicine also from my doctor(psicritice) for the same. Also trying to resolve the problem through astrological remidies by LK & Kp.

So many bad thoughts comes in my mind when i do pooja.

God knows when i can overcome all this.Recently I left Dubai & my job.

DOB-11/FEBRUARY/1971

TOB-20:44:52 (CORRECTED --- On Thu, 7/23/09, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:14 AM

dear friends,

there are no wordings "afflicted"in my developed 4 step theory.

this is for the information

-sunil gondhalekar

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:

Dear Friends,The 4 step theory based "afflicted" ideas, not applied or applicable in 4 step theory, cannot be applied in KP.

Regards,tw@gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TWji> > 1.Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.> > 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification. Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.> > 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well as the cusp to which it makes conjunction. .both results will be there.> > 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking 2nd house for marriage.> > >

Regards> > Suprakash> > - > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a> rasi like Aris to be called cusp.> 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, "afflicted" is not> used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.> 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both> before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong> signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes

is> taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken> to be effective.> 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house> cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.> Thanks and regards,> tw> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear TWji> >> > My clarifications are as follows:> >> > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house. In the same logic,> begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.> >> > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in> star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same

house> repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may> be considered.( selection of significator at each level should be as per> 4step theory guideline)> >> > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,> the planet is already in the bhava)> >> > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of> them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to> that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and> 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)> >> > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka> And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other> bhavas also.> >> > Regards> >> > Suprakash> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >> >> > -> > tw853> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> >> >> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> > Could you kindly clarify:> > 1. whether do you mean "Aris Rasi" starts from 0 deg zodiac,> otherwise why Aris Rasi is called "Cusp of Aris"?> > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4> step theory?> > 3. Does a strong significator "posited close to the cusp" mean> posited within the orb of 3deg "before the cusp" or "before

and after> the cusp"?> > 4. In "if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12> or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself", what is the difference between strong> significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha> itself?> > 4.. Does "For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also." mean to consider> Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:> > >> > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash> > >> >

>> > > -> > > Punit Pandey> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,> > >> > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign> under consideration) be afflicted by -> > >> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > >

Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered.. If we> are for health,> > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign> > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > >> > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong> significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For

life,> consider Badhaka/maraka also.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash Ghosh> > >> > > -> > > Luther Rath> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Punitji,> > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in> search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In> my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does

not> approve it clearly.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Punit Pandey punitp@> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word> 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of> traditional astrology, but I am not

sure about meaning of this word in> the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly> mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the> KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP> astrologer.> > >> > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all> three rules one by one -> > >> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted.... and...> > > What does it mean -> > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8,

12?> > >> > >> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the> significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all> western aspects are classified as either good or bad.> > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,> 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks

like most possible> definition to me)> > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.> > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > >> > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in> the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements> bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and> should be avoided as much as possible.> > >> > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication> to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life> of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our> discussion.> > >> > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> >

> Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English> words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions> do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct> from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so> on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an> affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/> weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I> suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd>

Edition...1994 :> > > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth> danger,and the XIIth,> > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final> deciding factor about the disease.> > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the> Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to> the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong> significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an> incureable ailment...> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to> Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint> periods of the significators, of these houses...> > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses

related> to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth> and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.> Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully> and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor> quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim> translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,> books...quite unfortunately. ..> > > With kind regards,> > > Yogesh Lajmi...> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> >

> Luther Rath rathluther >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM> > >> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Sirs,> > >> > > I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the> definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP> Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp> is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil> aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is> that

significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all> ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things> are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> > >> > > Hope some one will do needful.> > >> > > With my respect to one and all.> > >> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> >

>> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather> than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology> and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more> in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > > As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is

the Lagna and it is> afflicted... and...> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > For more detailed information members are recommended to read the> excellent book> > > "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary> Ramamurthy.> > >> > > With the very best wishes,> > > Yogesh Lajmi.> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste Sagar Ji,> > >> > > You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental> disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or> more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one> kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its> all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may> be in later older age could get mental disorders?> > >> > > I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even> though he is MAN but he crys in

every tv serials or he cannot see any> one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> > > there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> > >> > > may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> > >> > > thanks> > > rashmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > I too was literally mad

for 4 years.> > > On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di> was not in my control.> > > Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> > > I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> > > SSBrahmaanda> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence> on

mental imbalance.> > > Note:> > > this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint,> research scholars too.> > > Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his> Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> > > Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great> works/books by his pen.> > > In very few cases these three combination make mental> worries/mentally disturbed etc.> > > Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> > > In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic> dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Laxmi T

tirulaxmi >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental> fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of> moon and mercury?> > >> > > with regards> > > tirulaxmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------

--------- -> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> >>

July 23, 2009

Dear Neeraj

U have not given the birth place. Plz give me ur full Birth detqails

DOB/POB/TOBRegards

Sahhasra Saagara "Brahmaanda"

Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneeraj Sent: Thursday, 23 July, 2009 7:14:58 PMRe: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear All Seniors, & members,

I am just keeping my details for the study case in this current subject of Mental Imbalance.

I am suffering from mental disorder called OCD(OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER) ssince @last 2,3 years. taking consultation & medicine also from my doctor(psicritice) for the same. Also trying to resolve the problem through astrological remidies by LK & Kp.

So many bad thoughts comes in my mind when i do pooja.

God knows when i can overcome all this.Recently I left Dubai & my job.

DOB-11/FEBRUARY/ 1971

TOB-20:44:52 (CORRECTED --- On Thu, 7/23/09, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases@gro ups.comThursday, July 23, 2009, 8:14 AM

dear friends,

there are no wordings "afflicted"in my developed 4 step theory.

this is for the information

-sunil gondhalekar

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:

Dear Friends,The 4 step theory based "afflicted" ideas, not applied or applicable in 4 step theory, cannot be applied in KP.

Regards,tw@gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TWji> > 1.Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.> > 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification. Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.> > 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well as the cusp to which it makes conjunction. .both results will be there.> > 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking 2nd house for marriage.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > -----

Original Message ----- > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a> rasi like Aris to be called cusp.> 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, "afflicted" is not> used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.> 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both> before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong> signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes is> taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken> to be

effective.> 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house> cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.> Thanks and regards,> tw> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear TWji> >> > My clarifications are as follows:> >> > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house. In the same logic,> begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.> >> > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in> star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same house> repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may> be considered.( selection of significator at each

level should be as per> 4step theory guideline)> >> > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,> the planet is already in the bhava)> >> > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of> them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to> that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and> 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)> >> > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka> And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other> bhavas also.> >> > Regards> >> > Suprakash> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -> > tw853> > To:

@gro ups.com> > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> >> >> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> > Could you kindly clarify:> > 1. whether do you mean "Aris Rasi" starts from 0 deg zodiac,> otherwise why Aris Rasi is called "Cusp of Aris"?> > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4> step theory?> > 3. Does a strong significator "posited close to the cusp" mean> posited within the orb of 3deg "before the cusp" or "before and after> the cusp"?> > 4. In "if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12> or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself", what is the difference between strong>

significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha> itself?> > 4.. Does "For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also." mean to consider> Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:> > >> > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash> > >> > >> > > -> > > Punit Pandey> > > @gro

ups.com> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,> > >> > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign> under consideration) be afflicted by -> > >> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> >

>> > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered.. If we> are for health,> > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign> > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > >> > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong> significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life,> consider Badhaka/maraka also.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash Ghosh> > >> > > -> > > Luther Rath> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Punitji,> > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in> search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In> my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not> approve it clearly.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Punit Pandey punitp@> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word> 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of> traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in> the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly> mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the> KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP> astrologer.> > >> > > Word 'affliction' is open for

interpretation. Let us take all> three rules one by one -> > >> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted... . and...> > > What does it mean -> > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > >> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the> significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) If these

planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all> western aspects are classified as either good or bad.> > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,> 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible> definition to me)> > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.> > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > >> > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in> the context of KP and need strict

definition. These kind of statements> bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and> should be avoided as much as possible.> > >> > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication> to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life> of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our> discussion.> > >> > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > > First of all,an 'affliction' and

'infliction' (are simple English> words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions> do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct> from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so> on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an> affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/> weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I> suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd> Edition...1994 :> > > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth> danger,and the XIIth,> > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final> deciding factor about the disease.> > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the>

Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to> the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong> significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an> incureable ailment...> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to> Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint> periods of the significators, of these houses...> > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related> to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth> and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.> Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study

this book carefully> and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor> quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim> translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,> books...quite unfortunately. ..> > > With kind regards,> > > Yogesh Lajmi...> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM> > >> > > Re: psycholgical

imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Sirs,> > >> > > I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the> definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP> Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp> is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil> aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is> that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all> ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things> are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> > >> > > Hope some one will do needful.> > >> > > With my respect to one and

all.> > >> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather> than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology> and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more> in a KP

language, so that KP beginners can understand it.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > > As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted... and...> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders...

)> > > For more detailed information members are recommended to read the> excellent book> > > "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary> Ramamurthy.> > >> > > With the very best wishes,> > > Yogesh Lajmi.> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste

Sagar Ji,> > >> > > You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental> disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or> more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one> kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its> all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may> be in later older age could get mental disorders?> > >> > > I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even> though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any> one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> > > there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> > >> > > may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> > >> > > thanks> >

> rashmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > I too was literally mad for 4 years.> > > On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di> was not in my control.> > > Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> > > I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> > > SSBrahmaanda> > >> > >>

> >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence> on mental imbalance.> > > Note:> > > this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint,> research scholars too.> > > Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his> Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> > > Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in

Taurus resulted in great> works/books by his pen.> > > In very few cases these three combination make mental> worries/mentally disturbed etc.> > > Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> > > In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic> dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Laxmi T tirulaxmi >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,>

> >> > > In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental> fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of> moon and mercury?> > >> > > with regards> > > tirulaxmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> >>

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July 24, 2009

Dear Mr.Chowksey,

You have not given place of birth or at least latitude and longt. of birth place. Pl.oblige.

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Neeraj Chowksey

Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:14 PM

Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear All Seniors, & members,

I am just keeping my details for the study case in this current subject of Mental Imbalance.

I am suffering from mental disorder called OCD(OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER) ssince @last 2,3 years. taking consultation & medicine also from my doctor(psicritice) for the same. Also trying to resolve the problem through astrological remidies by LK & Kp.

So many bad thoughts comes in my mind when i do pooja.

God knows when i can overcome all this.Recently I left Dubai & my job.

DOB-11/FEBRUARY/1971

TOB-20:44:52 (CORRECTED --- On Thu, 7/23/09, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka > wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka >Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:14 AM

dear friends,

there are no wordings "afflicted"in my developed 4 step theory.

this is for the information

-sunil gondhalekar

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:

Dear Friends,The 4 step theory based "afflicted" ideas, not applied or applicable in 4 step theory, cannot be applied in KP.

Regards,tw@gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TWji> > 1.Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.> > 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification. Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.> > 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well as the cusp to which it makes conjunction. .both results will be there.> > 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking 2nd house for marriage.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > - > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a> rasi like Aris to be called cusp.> 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, "afflicted" is not> used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.> 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both> before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong> signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes is> taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken> to be effective.> 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house> cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.> Thanks and regards,> tw> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear TWji> >> > My clarifications are as follows:> >> > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house. In the same logic,> begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.> >> > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in> star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same house> repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may> be considered.( selection of significator at each level should be as per> 4step theory guideline)> >> > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,> the planet is already in the bhava)> >> > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of> them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to> that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and> 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)> >> > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka> And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other> bhavas also.> >> > Regards> >> > Suprakash> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -> > tw853> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> >> >> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> > Could you kindly clarify:> > 1. whether do you mean "Aris Rasi" starts from 0 deg zodiac,> otherwise why Aris Rasi is called "Cusp of Aris"?> > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4> step theory?> > 3. Does a strong significator "posited close to the cusp" mean> posited within the orb of 3deg "before the cusp" or "before and after> the cusp"?> > 4. In "if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12> or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself", what is the difference between strong> significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha> itself?> > 4.. Does "For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also." mean to consider> Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:> > >> > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash> > >> > >> > > -> > > Punit Pandey> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,> > >> > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign> under consideration) be afflicted by -> > >> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered.. If we> are for health,> > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign> > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > >> > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong> significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life,> consider Badhaka/maraka also.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash Ghosh> > >> > > -> > > Luther Rath> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Punitji,> > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in> search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In> my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not> approve it clearly.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Punit Pandey punitp@> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word> 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of> traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in> the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly> mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the> KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP> astrologer.> > >> > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all> three rules one by one -> > >> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted.... and...> > > What does it mean -> > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > >> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the> significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all> western aspects are classified as either good or bad.> > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,> 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible> definition to me)> > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.> > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > >> > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in> the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements> bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and> should be avoided as much as possible.> > >> > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication> to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life> of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our> discussion.> > >> > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English> words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions> do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct> from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so> on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an> affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/> weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I> suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd> Edition...1994 :> > > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth> danger,and the XIIth,> > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final> deciding factor about the disease.> > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the> Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to> the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong> significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an> incureable ailment...> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to> Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint> periods of the significators, of these houses...> > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related> to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth> and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.> Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully> and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor> quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim> translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,> books...quite unfortunately. ..> > > With kind regards,> > > Yogesh Lajmi...> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM> > >> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Sirs,> > >> > > I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the> definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP> Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp> is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil> aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is> that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all> ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things> are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> > >> > > Hope some one will do needful.> > >> > > With my respect to one and all.> > >> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather> than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology> and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more> in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > > As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted... and...> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and....> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > For more detailed information members are recommended to read the> excellent book> > > "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary> Ramamurthy.> > >> > > With the very best wishes,> > > Yogesh Lajmi.> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste Sagar Ji,> > >> > > You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental> disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or> more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one> kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its> all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may> be in later older age could get mental disorders?> > >> > > I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even> though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any> one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> > > there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> > >> > > may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> > >> > > thanks> > > rashmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > I too was literally mad for 4 years.> > > On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di> was not in my control.> > > Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> > > I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> > > SSBrahmaanda> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence> on mental imbalance.> > > Note:> > > this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint,> research scholars too.> > > Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his> Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> > > Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great> works/books by his pen.> > > In very few cases these three combination make mental> worries/mentally disturbed etc.> > > Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> > > In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic> dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Laxmi T tirulaxmi >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental> fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of> moon and mercury?> > >> > > with regards> > > tirulaxmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> >>

July 24, 2009

Dear TWji

I have never mixed 4step theory with 'afflicted conacept'. I have said that signifinace selection method followed in 4step theory is 'useful'.

Will you please define, what is "KP"?

I think this forum is to expand the concepts of KSK. As for example you have made good studies on 9th cusp for dual marriage,study on imprisonment etc.They are additional ideas not promoted by KSK. Are they "KP"?

Regards

Suprakash

-

tw853

Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:07 AM

Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear Friends,The 4 step theory based "afflicted" ideas, not applied or applicable in 4 step theory, cannot be applied in KP.Regards,tw , "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh wrote:>> Dear TWji> > 1.Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.> > 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification. Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.> > 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well as the cusp to which it makes conjunction..both results will be there.> > 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking 2nd house for marriage.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > - > tw853 > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a> rasi like Aris to be called cusp.> 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, "afflicted" is not> used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.> 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both> before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong> signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes is> taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken> to be effective.> 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house> cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.> Thanks and regards,> tw> > , "Suprakash Ghosh"> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear TWji> >> > My clarifications are as follows:> >> > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house. In the same logic,> begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.> >> > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in> star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same house> repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may> be considered.(selection of significator at each level should be as per> 4step theory guideline)> >> > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,> the planet is already in the bhava)> >> > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of> them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to> that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and> 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)> >> > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka> And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other> bhavas also.> >> > Regards> >> > Suprakash> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -> > tw853> > > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> >> >> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> > Could you kindly clarify:> > 1. whether do you mean "Aris Rasi" starts from 0 deg zodiac,> otherwise why Aris Rasi is called "Cusp of Aris"?> > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4> step theory?> > 3. Does a strong significator "posited close to the cusp" mean> posited within the orb of 3deg "before the cusp" or "before and after> the cusp"?> > 4. In "if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12> or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself", what is the difference between strong> significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha> itself?> > 4. Does "For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also." mean to consider> Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> >> > , "Suprakash Ghosh"> suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:> > >> > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash> > >> > >> > > -> > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,> > >> > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign> under consideration) be afflicted by -> > >> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered. If we> are for health,> > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign> > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > >> > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong> significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life,> consider Badhaka/maraka also.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash Ghosh> > >> > > -> > > Luther Rath> > > > > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Punitji,> > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in> search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In> my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not> approve it clearly.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Punit Pandey punitp@> > > > > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word> 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of> traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in> the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly> mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the> KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP> astrologer.> > >> > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all> three rules one by one -> > >> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted...and...> > > What does it mean -> > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > >> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....> > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the> significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all> western aspects are classified as either good or bad.> > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,> 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible> definition to me)> > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.> > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > >> > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in> the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements> bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and> should be avoided as much as possible.> > >> > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication> to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life> of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our> discussion.> > >> > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English> words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions> do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct> from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so> on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an> affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/> weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I> suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd> Edition...1994 :> > > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth> danger,and the XIIth,> > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final> deciding factor about the disease.> > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the> Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to> the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong> significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an> incureable ailment...> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to> Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint> periods of the significators, of these houses...> > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related> to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth> and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.> Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully> and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor> quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim> translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,> books...quite unfortunately. ..> > > With kind regards,> > > Yogesh Lajmi...> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM> > >> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Sirs,> > >> > > I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the> definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP> Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp> is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil> aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is> that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all> ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things> are to be clerified yet for KP followers.> > >> > > Hope some one will do needful.> > >> > > With my respect to one and all.> > >> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather> than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology> and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more> in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > > As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted...and...> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > For more detailed information members are recommended to read the> excellent book> > > "MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL" by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary> Ramamurthy.> > >> > > With the very best wishes,> > > Yogesh Lajmi.> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste Sagar Ji,> > >> > > You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental> disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or> more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one> kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its> all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may> be in later older age could get mental disorders?> > >> > > I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even> though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any> one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so> > > there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info> > >> > > may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]> > >> > > thanks> > > rashmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > I too was literally mad for 4 years.> > > On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di> was not in my control.> > > Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.> > > I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.> > > SSBrahmaanda> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM> > > Re: Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence> on mental imbalance.> > > Note:> > > this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint,> research scholars too.> > > Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his> Philoshophical lore was great which live long.> > > Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great> works/books by his pen.> > > In very few cases these three combination make mental> worries/mentally disturbed etc.> > > Depends on the other aspects of the chart.> > > In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in "benefic> dots and percentage of seats/marks" and "Mirrorology'> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Laxmi T tirulaxmi >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM> > > Physcological imbalance> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental> fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of> moon and mercury?> > >> > > with regards> > > tirulaxmi> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> > >> > > -------------------------> > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local> > >> >>

July 24, 2009

Dear Suprakash ji,

1. KP is, in my own view, what is written in the 6 KP Readers.

2. What I'm saying is your 4 step based " afflicted " ideas are not applicable in

KP.

3. This forum is, in my own view, to study, discuuss and do practical research

to find the practical applicable KP methods.

4. Study of the foreign settlement rules, 2nd marriage rules, comparison of New

KPA, Asc-Moon star lord rule, Mars Dosha, imprisonmet rules etc are testing the

KP rules for practical application.

Regards,

tw

, " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh

wrote:

>

> Dear TWji

>

> I have never mixed 4step theory with 'afflicted conacept'. I have said that

signifinace selection method followed in 4step theory is 'useful'.

>

> Will you please define, what is " KP " ?

>

> I think this forum is to expand the concepts of KSK. As for example you have

made good studies on 9th cusp for dual marriage,study on imprisonment etc.They

are additional ideas not promoted by KSK. Are they " KP " ?

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

> -

> tw853

>

> Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:07 AM

> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

>

> Dear Friends,

> The 4 step theory based " afflicted " ideas, not applied or applicable in 4

step theory, cannot be applied in KP.

> Regards,

> tw

>

> , " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear TWji

> >

> > 1.Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.

> >

> > 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification.

Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.

> >

> > 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well

as the cusp to which it makes conjunction..both results will be there.

> >

> > 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is

helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking

2nd house for marriage.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> > -

> > tw853

> >

> > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM

> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

> >

> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,

> > 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a

> > rasi like Aris to be called cusp.

> > 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, " afflicted " is not

> > used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.

> > 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both

> > before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong

> > signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes is

> > taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken

> > to be effective.

> > 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house

> > cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.

> > Thanks and regards,

> > tw

> >

> > , " Suprakash Ghosh "

> > <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear TWji

> > >

> > > My clarifications are as follows:

> > >

> > > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house. In the same logic,

> > begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.

> > >

> > > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in

> > star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same house

> > repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may

> > be considered.(selection of significator at each level should be as per

> > 4step theory guideline)

> > >

> > > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,

> > the planet is already in the bhava)

> > >

> > > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of

> > them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to

> > that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and

> > 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)

> > >

> > > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka

> > And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other

> > bhavas also.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > > -

> > > tw853

> > >

> > > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM

> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> > Imbalance/diseases

> > >

> > > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,

> > > Could you kindly clarify:

> > > 1. whether do you mean " Aris Rasi " starts from 0 deg zodiac,

> > otherwise why Aris Rasi is called " Cusp of Aris " ?

> > > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4

> > step theory?

> > > 3. Does a strong significator " posited close to the cusp " mean

> > posited within the orb of 3deg " before the cusp " or " before and after

> > the cusp " ?

> > > 4. In " if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12

> > or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself " , what is the difference between strong

> > significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha

> > itself?

> > > 4. Does " For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also. " mean to consider

> > Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , " Suprakash Ghosh "

> > suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM

> > > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> > Imbalance/diseases

> > > >

> > > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,

> > > >

> > > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign

> > under consideration) be afflicted by -

> > > >

> > > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp

> > > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and

> > major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered. If we

> > are for health,

> > > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign

> > > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign

> > > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp

> > > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and

> > major western aspects With orb of 3deg)

> > > >

> > > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong

> > significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life,

> > consider Badhaka/maraka also.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash Ghosh

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Luther Rath

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM

> > > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> > Imbalance/diseases

> > > >

> > > > Respected Punitji,

> > > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in

> > search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In

> > my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not

> > approve it clearly.

> > > > Regards.

> > > > Dr. Rath

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Punit Pandey punitp@

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM

> > > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> > Imbalance/diseases

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word

> > 'affliction'. I also understand meaning of this word in the context of

> > traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in

> > the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly

> > mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the

> > KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP

> > astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > Word 'affliction' is open for interpretation. Let us take all

> > three rules one by one -

> > > >

> > > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is

> > afflicted...and...

> > > > What does it mean -

> > > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary

> > aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?

> > > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary

> > aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?

> > > >

> > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

> > > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the

> > significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > > c) If these planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all

> > western aspects are classified as either good or bad.

> > > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?

> > > >

> > > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the

> > Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness

> > and mental disorders... )

> > > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?

> > > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,

> > 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible

> > definition to me)

> > > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.

> > > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12

> > > >

> > > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in

> > the context of KP and need strict definition. These kind of statements

> > bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and

> > should be avoided as much as possible.

> > > >

> > > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication

> > to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life

> > of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our

> > discussion.

> > > >

> > > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Punit,

> > > > First of all,an 'affliction' and 'infliction'(are simple English

> > words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions

> > do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct

> > from ....and he " inflicted defeat " on his enemy/opponent. ..and so

> > on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an

> > affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/

> > weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I

> > suppose it serves the limited purpose...

> > > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd

> > Edition...1994 :

> > > > According to K.P., " ...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth

> > danger,and the XIIth,

> > > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final

> > deciding factor about the disease.

> > > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the

> > Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to

> > the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods.

> > > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong

> > significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an

> > incureable ailment...

> > > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to

> > Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint

> > periods of the significators, of these houses...

> > > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related

> > to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth

> > and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .

> > > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.

> > Followers have already read this enlightening book...

> > > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study this book carefully

> > and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor

> > quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim

> > translation from Tamil into English....like with most Krishman & Co.,

> > books...quite unfortunately. ..

> > > > With kind regards,

> > > > Yogesh Lajmi...

> > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Luther Rath rathluther >

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM

> > > >

> > > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> > Imbalance/diseases

> > > >

> > > > Respected Sirs,

> > > >

> > > > I fully agree with Sri. Punitji. Till now I have not found the

> > definition of 'Affliction' in KP though it is frequently used in KP

> > Readers. We need to define, what is affliction. How one planet or a cusp

> > is afflicted, what aspects of planets afflicts others etc. What are evil

> > aspects and what are good aspects? In LP, what I understood till now is

> > that significators of VI, VII and XII are malifics, of course not all

> > ways. It does not solely depent on what planet it is. Hence many things

> > are to be clerified yet for KP followers.

> > > >

> > > > Hope some one will do needful.

> > > >

> > > > With my respect to one and all.

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Rath

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Punit Pandey punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21:03 PM

> > > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental

> > Imbalance/diseases

> > > >

> > > > Dear Lajmi ji,

> > > >

> > > > The quote too looks like from a traditional astrology book rather

> > than KP astrology book. 'Afflicted' is also not a popular KP terminology

> > and should be avoided, in my opinion. Can you please elaborate it more

> > in a KP language, so that KP beginners can understand it.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > > As per K.P. Principles,Mental Diseases are caused if :

> > > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is

> > afflicted...and...

> > > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted...and....

> > > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousness is signified by the

> > Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness

> > and mental disorders... )

> > > > For more detailed information members are recommended to read the

> > excellent book

> > > > " MEDICAL ASTROLOGY FOR ALL " by Mr.K.Subramaniam & Mr.Vaikary

> > Ramamurthy.

> > > >

> > > > With the very best wishes,

> > > > Yogesh Lajmi.

> > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > rashmi patel <rashmihpatel@ >

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:37:21 PM

> > > > Physcological imbalance

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Sagar Ji,

> > > >

> > > > You said moon-ketu, moon-rahu, moon-mercury effect mental

> > disorders but is it only in perticular lagna or rashis combination or

> > more likely every where pls confirm this because I see in this one

> > kundali moon-rahu & moon-mercury opposit each other but until now its

> > all perfect & person is very inteligent & active but check his is he may

> > be in later older age could get mental disorders?

> > > >

> > > > I know one thing this person is very very emotional meaning even

> > though he is MAN but he crys in every tv serials or he cannot see any

> > one crying because then he gets emotinal right away so

> > > > there had be one reason from this combination let me tell his info

> > > >

> > > > may-12-57, 04;25am, 12n45, 45e12 gmt-3hrs east [aden-yemen]

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > > rashmi

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:25:58 AM

> > > > Re: Physcological imbalance

> > > >

> > > > Hi

> > > > I too was literally mad for 4 years.

> > > > On 31st December 1995 night 21-35 PM i became literally mad an di

> > was not in my control.

> > > > Only on 27th June 1998 i was come out of the same.

> > > > I became literally mad in Mercury -Moon period.

> > > > SSBrahmaanda

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 12:18:42 PM

> > > > Re: Physcological imbalance

> > > >

> > > > Hi

> > > > Moon-Mercury, Moon-Rahu and Moon-Saturn affliction will influence

> > on mental imbalance.

> > > > Note:

> > > > this imbalance is often seen in the charts of great saint,

> > research scholars too.

> > > > Swami vivekananda born with Moon-Saturn in Virgo , hence his

> > Philoshophical lore was great which live long.

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman with Moon-Saturn in Taurus resulted in great

> > works/books by his pen.

> > > > In very few cases these three combination make mental

> > worries/mentally disturbed etc.

> > > > Depends on the other aspects of the chart.

> > > > In my own case Moon-Saturn together in Libra resulted in " benefic

> > dots and percentage of seats/marks " and " Mirrorology'

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sahhasra Saagara

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Laxmi T tirulaxmi >

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 8:45:20 AM

> > > > Physcological imbalance

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > In kp, how to see the Physiological imbalance (Mental

> > fluctuations) in the chart? Is it seen through serious afflictions of

> > moon and mercury?

> > > >

> > > > with regards

> > > > tirulaxmi

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Local

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 26, 2009

Dear Ramaniji,Sagarji & all,

Due to some system errorr(network problem),

My last mail in this regards gone with half information ,displayed half, actually I have written all information any way my details are as below.

DOB -11/FEBRUARY/1971.

TOB- 20:44:52 (CORRECTED BY Mr.kanak Bosmiyaji )time is in between 20:15 to 20:45)

POB- BURHANPURE (M.P.) 21N18, 76E08.

thanks & regards,

Neeraj (09422758931)--- On Fri, 7/24/09, kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramani wrote:

kadavasal ramani <kadavasalramaniRe: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:21 AM

Dear Mr.Chowksey,

You have not given place of birth or at least latitude and longt. of birth place. Pl.oblige.

Yourx truly,

K.S.V.Ramani

-

Neeraj Chowksey

@gro ups.com

Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:14 PM

Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases

Dear All Seniors, & members,

I am just keeping my details for the study case in this current subject of Mental Imbalance.

I am suffering from mental disorder called OCD(OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER) ssince @last 2,3 years. taking consultation & medicine also from my doctor(psicritice) for the same. Also trying to resolve the problem through astrological remidies by LK & Kp.

So many bad thoughts comes in my mind when i do pooja.

God knows when i can overcome all this.Recently I left Dubai & my job.

DOB-11/FEBRUARY/ 1971

TOB-20:44:52 (CORRECTED --- On Thu, 7/23/09, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases@gro ups.comThursday, July 23, 2009, 8:14 AM

dear friends,

there are no wordings "afflicted"in my developed 4 step theory.

this is for the information

-sunil gondhalekar

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM, tw853 <tw853 > wrote:

Dear Friends,The 4 step theory based "afflicted" ideas, not applied or applicable in 4 step theory, cannot be applied in KP.

Regards,tw@gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TWji> > 1..Yes, the begining of a Rasi can also be called a cusp for the rasi.> > 2,'Afflicted' status comes as per star as well as sub level signification. Only while selecting singification at each level, 4 step guideline is useful.> > 3.I prefer to take both the house...the house where it is posited as well as the cusp to which it makes conjunction. .both results will be there.> > 4. KSK himself advised to take 6,8,12 houses from a bhava. 2nd house is helpful to marriage, but may not be good for spouse. Khullar is againt taking 2nd house for marriage.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > -----

Original Message ----- > tw853 > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 AM> Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental Imbalance/diseases> > > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> 1. begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac - is as usual but not found a> rasi like Aris to be called cusp.> 2. If strong significators are as per 4 step theory, "afflicted" is not> used and no place to use in the 4 step theory.> 3. If it is before the cusp, it is as per KP and Western, and both> before and after the cusp are taken in 4 step theory as strong> signinficator. If before the cusp, in KP the effect of next houes is> taken, and in 4 step theory both the previous and next houses are taken> to be

effective.> 4. 6,8,12 may be generally bad for health only and 6,8,12 from a house> cannot be always bad, for instance 2 may not be bad for 7.> Thanks and regards,> tw> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear TWji> >> > My clarifications are as follows:> >> > 1) Begining of a bhava is the cusp of the house.. In the same logic,> begining of Aris is 0 deg of zodiac.> >> > 2) Strong significator means planets who signifies related bhavas in> star as well sub level. If no planet is found with the same house> repeating in sublevel, supporting houses to that bhava in subl level may> be considered.( selection of significator at each

level should be as per> 4step theory guideline)> >> > 3) Of course, when it is before the cusp. If it is after the cusp,> the planet is already in the bhava)> >> > 4) 6,8,12 are in general bad houses for lagna when at least two of> them appear together. For judgement of specific bhava, 6,8,12 houses to> that bhava is bad for that bhava .example : Say for 7th house, 12,2 and> 6 th are bad houses for 7th house related significations)> >> > 5) You are right, for longivity, additionally we must consider Maraka> And Badhaka together.However some astrologers use this concept for other> bhavas also.> >> > Regards> >> > Suprakash> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -> > tw853> > To:

@gro ups.com> > Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:41 PM> > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> >> >> > Dear Suprakash Ghosh ji,> > Could you kindly clarify:> > 1. whether do you mean "Aris Rasi" starts from 0 deg zodiac,> otherwise why Aris Rasi is called "Cusp of Aris"?> > 2. Do the strong significators mean primary significators in the 4> step theory?> > 3. Does a strong significator "posited close to the cusp" mean> posited within the orb of 3deg "before the cusp" or "before and after> the cusp"?> > 4. In "if the sublord of the same is strong significator of 6,/8,/12> or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself", what is the difference between strong>

significators of 6,/8,/12 and significator of 6,8,12 from the bhabha> itself?> > 4.. Does "For life, consider Badhaka/maraka also." mean to consider> Badhaka/maraka for judgment of longivity, otherwise what does it mean?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"> suprakash.ghosh@ wrote:> > >> > > Cusp of Aris starts from 0 deg zodiac.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash> > >> > >> > > -> > > Punit Pandey> > > @gro

ups.com> > > Friday, July 17, 2009 12:23 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Suryaprakash ji,> > >> > > Last two points are not clear to me. How can 'Aries' (or any sign> under consideration) be afflicted by -> > >> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Suprakash Ghosh suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > >> > >> > >> >

>> > > Affliction to be judged in context to the houses considered.. If we> are for health,> > > Aris is afflicted when :1 ) 6,8,12 cusps fall in the sign> > > 2) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited in the sign> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 posited close to the cusp> > > 3) Strong significators of 6,8,12 aspects the cusp.(both vedic and> major western aspects With orb of 3deg)> > >> > >> > > Planet or Cusps are afflicted if the sublord of the same is strong> significator of 6,/8,/12 or 6,8,12 from the bhabha itself.For life,> consider Badhaka/maraka also.> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Suprakash Ghosh> > >> > > -> > > Luther Rath> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected Punitji,> > > I am highly impressed by your thumping presentation. We are in> search of a defination. Let us expect opinion of all learned members. In> my opinion the aspects followed by westerners be excluded as KP does not> approve it clearly.> > > Regards.> > > Dr. Rath> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Punit Pandey punitp@> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:56:06 PM> > > Re: psycholgical imbalance/Mental> Imbalance/diseases> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Lajmi ji,> > >> > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I understand that English word> 'affliction' . I also understand meaning of this word in the context of> traditional astrology, but I am not sure about meaning of this word in> the context of KP. It requires further clarification. As correctly> mentioned by Luther ji, we find reference of these words in some of the> KP books which makes the rule difficult to understand by a KP> astrologer.> > >> > > Word 'affliction' is open for

interpretation. Let us take all> three rules one by one -> > >> > > 1) Aries(which represents the Head) is the Lagna and it is> afflicted... . and...> > > What does it mean -> > > a) Aries having significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) Aries having cuspal sub lords of 6, 8, 12?> > > d) Aries receiving (Hindu, as Western aspects are exact) planetary> aspect from the cuspal sublords of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > >> > > 2) If the lord of Lagna,Mars Moon & Merc are afflicted... and.....> > > a) If these planets are significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) If these planets receiving Hindu planetary aspect of the> significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > c) If these

planets receiving bad western aspects. Remember all> western aspects are classified as either good or bad.> > > a) If these planets are cuspal sub lord of of 6, 8, 12?> > >> > > 3) The Vth & VIth are afflicted(conciousn ess is signified by the> Vth house,and it's lord,and Mercury is the significator of conciousness> and mental disorders... )> > > a) if these houses are occupied by significators of 6, 8, 12?> > > b) if the cuspal sub lord of these houses are significators of 6,> 8, 12? (At least in case of house, this looks like most possible> definition to me)> > > c) If these cusps are receiving malefic Western asepcts.> > > d) If these houses are aspected by significators of 6, 8, 12> > >> > > I want to point out that the word 'afflication' in ambiguous in> the context of KP and need strict

definition. These kind of statements> bring the ambiguity back for which traditional astrology is blamed and> should be avoided as much as possible.> > >> > > To sum-up, we need to define 'afflication to sign', 'afflication> to planet' and 'afflication to house' more clearly. Once defined, life> of a KP student will become easy, also it will bring clarity to our> discussion.> > >> > > I hope now you understand reason behind my previous email.> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > >> > > Punit Pandey> > >> > >> > >> > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Punit,> > > First of all,an 'affliction' and

'infliction' (are simple English> words,) and are almost always considered in an evil context,exceptions> do exist,ofcourse. ..eg., afflicted by a contagious disease as distinct> from ....and he"inflicted defeat" on his enemy/opponent. ..and so> on....an infliction is brought about by an external agency,while an> affliction is due mostly due to one's own lack of immunity/mistake/> weakness and so on...this is a rough and ready explanation, but I> suppose it serves the limited purpose...> > > To quote further from Medical Astrology for All, p68,2nd> Edition...1994 :> > > According to K.P., "...the VIth house shows disease,the VIIIth> danger,and the XIIth,> > > hospitalisation. ..The sunlord of the VIth cusp is the final> deciding factor about the disease.> > > Tendency to get/contract disease also depends upon the>

Dasa-lord,Bhukti- lord and Anthara-lord, and the Planets connected to> the VI & Lagna will give rise to disease,in their conjoined periods..> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the XIIth, and becomes a strong> significator of the VIth,then the native will surely suffer from an> incureable ailment...> > > If the s/l of the VIth is in the VIIth,and is connected to> Houses,III,V & IX...mental aberation is caused...during the conjoint> periods of the significators, of these houses...> > > The IIrd house represents the mind...and the other houses related> to the mind are I,V & IX...and the higher mind is denoted by the IXth> and the lower by the IIIrd...(sic) .> > > The rest I have sent in my first mail,assuming that most K.P.> Followers have already read this enlightening book...> > > And finally, I urge K.P. enthusiasts to study

this book carefully> and thoroughly.. .ofcourse, due allowance needs to be made for the poor> quality of editing and the English language which seems to be a verbatim> translation from Tamil into English.....like with most Krishman & Co.,> books...quite unfortunately. ..> > > With kind regards,> > > Yogesh Lajmi...> > > GOOD LUCK !> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Luther Rath rathluther >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:41:40 AM> > >> > > Re: psycholgical