The Third International Conference of SA Astrologers

February 25, 2007

Hello dear list members,

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

Club South, South City-II,

Gurgaon, India.

24th and 25th February, 2007.

The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney and

the message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA, was

also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions on

World Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and the

charts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopes

presented by them.

The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in the

deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.

15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.

During the course of discussiions the following important points emerged:

1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

influence of that functional benefic planet.

2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the significations

ruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

chart and no planet is badly placed.

3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions can

cause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the child

reported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of the

birth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.

4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence Chart

for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,

2007:

(a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimated

more than Rs. 2000m was lost.

(b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

(d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UP

and the ruling Central Government.

Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event of

Moksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included the

birth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were also

discussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. The

participants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the memory

of important SA sutras, as well.

Best wishes,

-

" cosmologer " <cosmologer

Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AM

Fwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

|

| Dear ,

|

| Thank you for the additional insight.

|

| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I

| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs

| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.

|

| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the

| dispositor of the FM planet involved.

|

| Best wishes,

|

| Thor

|

| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:

| >

| > Hello my dear Thor,

| >

| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers more.

| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

| period of

| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.

| >

| > Best wishes,

| >

| > -

| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

| >

| > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM

| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

| >

| > | Dear ,

| > |

| > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are

| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

| > | the overall logic of SA.

| > |

| > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.

| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional

| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the FM

| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable

| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor

| > | (of the functional malefic)?

| > |

| > | Best wishes,

| > |

| > | Thor

| > |

| > | , <siha@> wrote:

| > | >

| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

| > | >

| > | > Thanks.

| > | >

| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed was

| > | that

| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

| > | affliction, the

| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

| > | influence

| > | > of that functional benefic planet.

| > | >

| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

| > | Sankara

| > | > Bhagvadpada later.

| > | >

| > | > Best wishes,

| > | >

| > | > -

| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

| > | > <samva >;

| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM

| > | > The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

| > | >

| > | > | Dear ,

| > | > |

| > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable Third

| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being

| held in

| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in their

| > | signs of

| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's

| nodes.

| > | > |

| > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list

| > | members I

| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our dear

| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word

| 'guru.' How

| > | > appropriate!

| > | > |

| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the

| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the

| > | > conference in coming days.

| > | > |

| > | > | Best wishes,

| > | > |

| > | > | Thor

| > | > |

| > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

| > | > |

| > | > | Club South, South City-II,

| > | > | Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.

| > | > | The participants will share their experiences and

| > | discuss

| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more

| effective and

| > | > meaningful.

| > | > |

| > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in the

| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural

| > | background

| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.

| > | > |

| > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach for

| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent

| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the

| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

| > | > |

| > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,

| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,

| > | Gurgaon.

| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

| > | > |

| > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

| > | > |

February 25, 2007

Hi Professor,

In regards to the first point, if there are two FB dispositors involved,

which sub-period do we focus on? Eg. FB Ju-Ra aspect with Ra in Ar, Ju in

Le, Leo ASC, FBs Mars and Sun are dispositors of the planets involved. There

is also the case where Ju is FM in the above example

Best regards,

Vyas Munidas

-

<siha

Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:37 PM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

Hello dear list members,

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

Club South, South City-II,

Gurgaon, India.

24th and 25th February, 2007.

The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney and

the message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA, was

also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions on

World Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and the

charts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopes

presented by them.

The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in the

deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.

15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.

During the course of discussiions the following important points emerged:

1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

influence of that functional benefic planet.

2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the significations

ruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

chart and no planet is badly placed.

3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions can

cause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the child

reported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of the

birth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.

4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence Chart

for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,

2007:

(a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimated

more than Rs. 2000m was lost.

(b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

(d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UP

and the ruling Central Government.

Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event of

Moksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included the

birth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were also

discussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. The

participants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the memory

of important SA sutras, as well.

Best wishes,

-

" cosmologer " <cosmologer

Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AM

Fwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

|

| Dear ,

|

| Thank you for the additional insight.

|

| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I

| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs

| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.

|

| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the

| dispositor of the FM planet involved.

|

| Best wishes,

|

| Thor

|

| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:

| >

| > Hello my dear Thor,

| >

| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers more.

| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

| period of

| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.

| >

| > Best wishes,

| >

| > -

| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

| >

| > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM

| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

| >

| > | Dear ,

| > |

| > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are

| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

| > | the overall logic of SA.

| > |

| > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.

| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional

| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the FM

| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable

| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor

| > | (of the functional malefic)?

| > |

| > | Best wishes,

| > |

| > | Thor

| > |

| > | , <siha@> wrote:

| > | >

| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

| > | >

| > | > Thanks.

| > | >

| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed was

| > | that

| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

| > | affliction, the

| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

| > | influence

| > | > of that functional benefic planet.

| > | >

| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

| > | Sankara

| > | > Bhagvadpada later.

| > | >

| > | > Best wishes,

| > | >

| > | > -

| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

| > | > <samva >;

| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM

| > | > The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

| > | >

| > | > | Dear ,

| > | > |

| > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable Third

| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being

| held in

| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in their

| > | signs of

| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's

| nodes.

| > | > |

| > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list

| > | members I

| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our dear

| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word

| 'guru.' How

| > | > appropriate!

| > | > |

| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the

| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the

| > | > conference in coming days.

| > | > |

| > | > | Best wishes,

| > | > |

| > | > | Thor

| > | > |

| > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

| > | > |

| > | > | Club South, South City-II,

| > | > | Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.

| > | > | The participants will share their experiences and

| > | discuss

| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more

| effective and

| > | > meaningful.

| > | > |

| > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in the

| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural

| > | background

| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.

| > | > |

| > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach for

| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent

| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the

| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

| > | > |

| > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,

| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,

| > | Gurgaon.

| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

| > | > |

| > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

| > | > |

February 25, 2007

The last sentence should read, " There is also the case where Ju is FM IN THE

CANCER ASC. "

Best regards,

Vyas Munidas

-

" Vyas Munidas " <muni>

Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:16 PM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

Hi Professor,

In regards to the first point, if there are two FB dispositors involved,

which sub-period do we focus on? Eg. FB Ju-Ra aspect with Ra in Ar, Ju in

Le, Leo ASC, FBs Mars and Sun are dispositors of the planets involved. There

is also the case where Ju is FM in the above example

Best regards,

Vyas Munidas

-

<siha

Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:37 PM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

Hello dear list members,

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

Club South, South City-II,

Gurgaon, India.

24th and 25th February, 2007.

The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney and

the message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA, was

also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions on

World Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and the

charts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopes

presented by them.

The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in the

deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.

15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.

During the course of discussiions the following important points emerged:

1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

influence of that functional benefic planet.

2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the significations

ruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

chart and no planet is badly placed.

3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions can

cause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the child

reported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of the

birth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.

4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence Chart

for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,

2007:

(a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimated

more than Rs. 2000m was lost.

(b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

(d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UP

and the ruling Central Government.

Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event of

Moksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included the

birth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were also

discussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. The

participants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the memory

of important SA sutras, as well.

Best wishes,

-

" cosmologer " <cosmologer

Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AM

Fwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

|

| Dear ,

|

| Thank you for the additional insight.

|

| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I

| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs

| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.

|

| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the

| dispositor of the FM planet involved.

|

| Best wishes,

|

| Thor

|

| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:

| >

| > Hello my dear Thor,

| >

| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers more.

| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

| period of

| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.

| >

| > Best wishes,

| >

| > -

| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

| >

| > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM

| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

| >

| > | Dear ,

| > |

| > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are

| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

| > | the overall logic of SA.

| > |

| > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.

| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional

| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the FM

| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable

| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor

| > | (of the functional malefic)?

| > |

| > | Best wishes,

| > |

| > | Thor

| > |

| > | , <siha@> wrote:

| > | >

| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

| > | >

| > | > Thanks.

| > | >

| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed was

| > | that

| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

| > | affliction, the

| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

| > | influence

| > | > of that functional benefic planet.

| > | >

| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

| > | Sankara

| > | > Bhagvadpada later.

| > | >

| > | > Best wishes,

| > | >

| > | > -

| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

| > | > <samva >;

| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM

| > | > The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

| > | >

| > | > | Dear ,

| > | > |

| > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable Third

| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being

| held in

| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in their

| > | signs of

| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's

| nodes.

| > | > |

| > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list

| > | members I

| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our dear

| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word

| 'guru.' How

| > | > appropriate!

| > | > |

| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the

| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the

| > | > conference in coming days.

| > | > |

| > | > | Best wishes,

| > | > |

| > | > | Thor

| > | > |

| > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

| > | > |

| > | > | Club South, South City-II,

| > | > | Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.

| > | > | The participants will share their experiences and

| > | discuss

| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more

| effective and

| > | > meaningful.

| > | > |

| > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in the

| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural

| > | background

| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.

| > | > |

| > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach for

| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent

| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the

| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

| > | > |

| > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,

| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,

| > | Gurgaon.

| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

| > | > |

| > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

| > | > |

February 25, 2007

Hello Vyas,

Yoo reframe your question independently to enable me to reply.

Best wishes,

-

" Vyas Munidas " <muni>

Monday, February 26, 2007 7:46 AM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

| Hi Professor,

|

| In regards to the first point, if there are two FB dispositors involved,

| which sub-period do we focus on? Eg. FB Ju-Ra aspect with Ra in Ar, Ju in

| Le, Leo ASC, FBs Mars and Sun are dispositors of the planets involved.

There

| is also the case where Ju is FM in the above example

|

| Best regards,

|

| Vyas Munidas

|

| -

| <siha

| <SAMVA >

| Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:37 PM

| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

| Hello dear list members,

|

| INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

| INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

|

| Club South, South City-II,

| Gurgaon, India.

| 24th and 25th February, 2007.

|

| The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney and

| the message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA,

was

| also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions on

| World Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and

the

| charts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

| discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopes

| presented by them.

|

| The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in the

| deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

|

| 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

| 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

| 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

| 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

| 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

| 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

| 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

| 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

| 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

| 11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

| 12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

| 13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

| 14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.

| 15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| 16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| 17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

| 18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

| 19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

| 20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

| 21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

| 22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.

|

| During the course of discussiions the following important points emerged:

|

| 1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

| the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

| influence of that functional benefic planet.

|

| 2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the

significations

| ruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

| chart and no planet is badly placed.

|

| 3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions can

| cause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the child

| reported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

| house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of

the

| birth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.

|

| 4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence

Chart

| for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,

| 2007:

|

| (a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimated

| more than Rs. 2000m was lost.

|

| (b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

|

| © 68 people died in a terrorist attack on the Samjhota Express Train.

|

| (d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UP

| and the ruling Central Government.

|

| Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

| spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event

of

| Moksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included

the

| birth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

| charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were also

| discussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. The

| participants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the memory

| of important SA sutras, as well.

|

| Best wishes,

|

| -

| " cosmologer " <cosmologer

|

| Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AM

| Fwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

|| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

||

|| Dear ,

||

|| Thank you for the additional insight.

||

|| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I

|| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs

|| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.

||

|| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

|| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the

|| dispositor of the FM planet involved.

||

|| Best wishes,

||

|| Thor

||

|| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:

|| >

|| > Hello my dear Thor,

|| >

|| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers

more.

|| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

|| period of

|| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.

|| >

|| > Best wishes,

|| >

|| > -

|| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

|| >

|| > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM

|| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

|| >

|| > | Dear ,

|| > |

|| > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are

|| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

|| > | the overall logic of SA.

|| > |

|| > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.

|| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional

|| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the FM

|| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable

|| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor

|| > | (of the functional malefic)?

|| > |

|| > | Best wishes,

|| > |

|| > | Thor

|| > |

|| > | , <siha@> wrote:

|| > | >

|| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

|| > | >

|| > | > Thanks.

|| > | >

|| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed

was

|| > | that

|| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

|| > | affliction, the

|| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

|| > | influence

|| > | > of that functional benefic planet.

|| > | >

|| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

|| > | Sankara

|| > | > Bhagvadpada later.

|| > | >

|| > | > Best wishes,

|| > | >

|| > | > -

|| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

|| > | > <samva >;

|| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM

|| > | > The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

|| > | >

|| > | > | Dear ,

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable Third

|| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being

|| held in

|| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in their

|| > | signs of

|| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's

|| nodes.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list

|| > | members I

|| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our dear

|| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word

|| 'guru.' How

|| > | > appropriate!

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the

|| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the

|| > | > conference in coming days.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Best wishes,

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Thor

|| > | > |

|| > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

|| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Club South, South City-II,

|| > | > | Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.

|| > | > | The participants will share their experiences

and

|| > | discuss

|| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more

|| effective and

|| > | > meaningful.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in

the

|| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural

|| > | background

|| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach for

|| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent

|| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the

|| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

|| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

|| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

|| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

|| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

|| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

|| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,

|| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,

|| > | Gurgaon.

|| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

|| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

|| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

|| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

|| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

|| > | > |

February 25, 2007

Hi Professor,

Ok. So we've got, " When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

affliction, the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and

transit influence of that functional benefic planet. "

Case 1: Leo Asc, FB Ju in Leo forms a mutual aspect to Rahu in Aries. The

Sun and Mars are dispositors of the planets involved in this affliction of

Jupiter. The first question is, would we be focusing on the sub-period of

the dispositor of the afflictor or the afflicted to see the results of the

affliction? Seen with the transits of course.

Case 2: Cancer Asc, FM Ju and Ra as above. Since they are mutually

afflicting, both the sub-periods of their dispositors tentatively become

important, dependant on the answer to the first question.

Additionally, in the case of a mutual beneficial aspect, would the FB

dispositor see the results of the blessing in its sub-period (transits

considered)?

Best regards,

Vyas Munidas

-

<siha

Monday, February 26, 2007 12:55 AM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

Hello Vyas,

Yoo reframe your question independently to enable me to reply.

Best wishes,

-

" Vyas Munidas " <muni>

Monday, February 26, 2007 7:46 AM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

| Hi Professor,

|

| In regards to the first point, if there are two FB dispositors involved,

| which sub-period do we focus on? Eg. FB Ju-Ra aspect with Ra in Ar, Ju in

| Le, Leo ASC, FBs Mars and Sun are dispositors of the planets involved.

There

| is also the case where Ju is FM in the above example

|

| Best regards,

|

| Vyas Munidas

|

| -

| <siha

| <SAMVA >

| Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:37 PM

| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

| Hello dear list members,

|

| INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

| INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

|

| Club South, South City-II,

| Gurgaon, India.

| 24th and 25th February, 2007.

|

| The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney and

| the message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA,

was

| also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions on

| World Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and

the

| charts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

| discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopes

| presented by them.

|

| The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in the

| deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

|

| 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

| 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

| 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

| 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

| 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

| 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

| 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

| 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

| 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

| 11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

| 12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

| 13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

| 14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.

| 15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| 16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| 17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

| 18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

| 19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

| 20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

| 21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

| 22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.

|

| During the course of discussiions the following important points emerged:

|

| 1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

| the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

| influence of that functional benefic planet.

|

| 2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the

significations

| ruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

| chart and no planet is badly placed.

|

| 3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions can

| cause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the child

| reported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

| house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of

the

| birth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.

|

| 4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence

Chart

| for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,

| 2007:

|

| (a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimated

| more than Rs. 2000m was lost.

|

| (b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

|

| © 68 people died in a terrorist attack on the Samjhota Express Train.

|

| (d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UP

| and the ruling Central Government.

|

| Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

| spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event

of

| Moksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included

the

| birth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

| charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were also

| discussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. The

| participants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the memory

| of important SA sutras, as well.

|

| Best wishes,

|

| -

| " cosmologer " <cosmologer

|

| Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AM

| Fwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

|| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

||

|| Dear ,

||

|| Thank you for the additional insight.

||

|| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I

|| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs

|| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.

||

|| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

|| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the

|| dispositor of the FM planet involved.

||

|| Best wishes,

||

|| Thor

||

|| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:

|| >

|| > Hello my dear Thor,

|| >

|| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers

more.

|| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

|| period of

|| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.

|| >

|| > Best wishes,

|| >

|| > -

|| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

|| >

|| > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM

|| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

|| >

|| > | Dear ,

|| > |

|| > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are

|| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

|| > | the overall logic of SA.

|| > |

|| > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.

|| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional

|| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the FM

|| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable

|| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor

|| > | (of the functional malefic)?

|| > |

|| > | Best wishes,

|| > |

|| > | Thor

|| > |

|| > | , <siha@> wrote:

|| > | >

|| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

|| > | >

|| > | > Thanks.

|| > | >

|| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed

was

|| > | that

|| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

|| > | affliction, the

|| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

|| > | influence

|| > | > of that functional benefic planet.

|| > | >

|| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

|| > | Sankara

|| > | > Bhagvadpada later.

|| > | >

|| > | > Best wishes,

|| > | >

|| > | > -

|| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

|| > | > <samva >;

|| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM

|| > | > The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

|| > | >

|| > | > | Dear ,

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable Third

|| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being

|| held in

|| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in their

|| > | signs of

|| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's

|| nodes.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list

|| > | members I

|| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our dear

|| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word

|| 'guru.' How

|| > | > appropriate!

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the

|| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the

|| > | > conference in coming days.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Best wishes,

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Thor

|| > | > |

|| > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

|| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Club South, South City-II,

|| > | > | Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.

|| > | > | The participants will share their experiences

and

|| > | discuss

|| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more

|| effective and

|| > | > meaningful.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in

the

|| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural

|| > | background

|| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach for

|| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent

|| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the

|| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

|| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

|| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

|| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

|| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

|| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

|| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

|| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,

|| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,

|| > | Gurgaon.

|| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

|| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

|| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

|| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

|| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

|| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

|| > | > |

|| > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

|| > | > |

February 26, 2007

My dear Professor,

Congratulations for the sucess of the conference.

Thank you for sharing this information.

Best wishes,

Jorge

On 2/26/07, siha <siha

> wrote:

Hello dear list members,INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGYINTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

Club South, South City-II,Gurgaon, India.24th and 25th February, 2007.The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney andthe message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA, was

also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions onWorld Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and thecharts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopespresented by them.The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in thedeliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.During the course of discussiions the following important points emerged:1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transitinfluence of that functional benefic planet.2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the significationsruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

chart and no planet is badly placed.3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions cancause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the childreported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of thebirth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence Chart

for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,2007:(a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimatedmore than Rs. 2000m was lost.(b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

© 68 people died in a terrorist attack on the Samjhota Express Train.(d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UPand the ruling Central Government.Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event ofMoksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included thebirth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were alsodiscussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. Theparticipants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the memory

of important SA sutras, as well.Best wishes,- " cosmologer " <cosmologer

Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AMFwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SAAstrologers

| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:|| Dear ,|| Thank you for the additional insight.|

| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.|| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the| dispositor of the FM planet involved.|| Best wishes,|| Thor|| SAMVA

, <siha@> wrote:| >| >| > Hello my dear Thor,| >| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers more.| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

| period of| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.| >| > Best wishes,| >| > | >| >| > -| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

| > | > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers| >| >| > | Dear ,| > || > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

| > | the overall logic of SA.| > || > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the FM

| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor| > | (of the functional malefic)?| > || > | Best wishes,

| > || > | Thor| > || > | , <siha@> wrote:| > | >| > | >| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

| > | >| > | > Thanks.| > | >| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed was| > | that| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

| > | affliction, the| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit| > | influence| > | > of that functional benefic planet.| > | >| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

| > | Sankara| > | > Bhagvadpada later.| > | >| > | > Best wishes,| > | >| > | > | > | >| > | >| > | >| > | > -

| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>| > | > <samva >; <

>| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM| > | > The Third International Conference of SA| Astrologers| > | >| > | >| > | > | Dear ,

| > | > || > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable Third| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being| held in| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in their

| > | signs of| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's| nodes.| > | > || > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list| > | members I

| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our dear| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word| 'guru.' How| > | > appropriate!| > | > |

| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the| > | > conference in coming days.| > | > |

| > | > | Best wishes,| > | > || > | > | Thor| > | > || > | > || > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

| > | > || > | > | Club South, South City-II,| > | > | Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.| > | > | The participants will share their experiences and

| > | discuss| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more| effective and| > | > meaningful.| > | > || > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in the

| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural| > | background| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.| > | > || > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach for

| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

| > | > || > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,| > | Gurgaon.| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

| > | > || > | > || > | > | | > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.| > | > || > | > |

February 26, 2007

ï»¿

Hello my dear Jorge, Thanks for your kind words.

Best wishes,

-

Jorge Angelino

SAMVA

Monday, February 26, 2007 1:25 PM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA Astrologers

My dear Professor,

Congratulations for the sucess of the conference.

Thank you for sharing this information.

Best wishes,

Jorge

On 2/26/07, siha <siha > wrote: Hello dear list members,INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGYINTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS Club South, South City-II,Gurgaon, India.24th and 25th February, 2007.The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney andthe message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA, was also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions onWorld Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and thecharts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopespresented by them.The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in thedeliberations/proceedings of the Conference. 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India. 11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India. 16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.During the course of discussiions the following important points emerged:1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction, the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transitinfluence of that functional benefic planet.2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the significationsruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal chart and no planet is badly placed.3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions cancause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the childreported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of thebirth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence Chart for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,2007:(a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimatedmore than Rs. 2000m was lost.(b) 21 people died in a boat mishap. © 68 people died in a terrorist attack on the Samjhota Express Train.(d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UPand the ruling Central Government.Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event ofMoksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included thebirth rectification done through the important events of his life. The charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were alsodiscussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. Theparticipants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the memory of important SA sutras, as well.Best wishes,-"cosmologer" <cosmologerMonday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AMFwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SAAstrologers| SAMVA , "cosmologer" <cosmologer wrote:|| Dear ,|| Thank you for the additional insight.|| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.|| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable | influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the| dispositor of the FM planet involved.|| Best wishes,|| Thor|| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:| >| >| > Hello my dear Thor,| >| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers more.| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the | period of| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.| >| > Best wishes,| >| > | >| >| > -| > "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> | > | > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA| Astrologers| >| >| > | Dear ,| > || > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within | > | the overall logic of SA.| > || > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the FM | > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor| > | (of the functional malefic)?| > || > | Best wishes, | > || > | Thor| > || > | , <siha@> wrote:| > | >| > | >| > | > Hello my dear Thor, | > | >| > | > Thanks.| > | >| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed was| > | that| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an | > | affliction, the| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit| > | influence| > | > of that functional benefic planet.| > | >| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr. | > | Sankara| > | > Bhagvadpada later.| > | >| > | > Best wishes,| > | >| > | > | > | >| > | >| > | >| > | > - | > | > "Cosmologer" <cosmologer@>| > | > <samva >; < >| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM| > | > The Third International Conference of SA| Astrologers| > | >| > | >| > | > | Dear , | > | > || > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable Third| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being| held in| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in their | > | signs of| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's| nodes.| > | > || > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list| > | members I | > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our dear| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word| 'guru.' How| > | > appropriate!| > | > | | > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the| > | > conference in coming days.| > | > | | > | > | Best wishes,| > | > || > | > | Thor| > | > || > | > || > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS | > | > || > | > | Club South, South City-II,| > | > | Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.| > | > | The participants will share their experiences and | > | discuss| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more| effective and| > | > meaningful.| > | > || > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in the | > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural| > | background| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.| > | > || > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach for | > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference. | > | > || > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi. | > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India. | > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India. | > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India. | > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,| > | Gurgaon.| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India. | > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India. | > | > || > | > || > | > | | > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.| > | > || > | > |

February 26, 2007

Hello dear Vyas,

I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below.

Best wishes,

-

" Vyas Munidas " <muni>

Monday, February 26, 2007 11:46 AM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

| Hi Professor,

|

| Ok. So we've got, " When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of

an

| affliction, the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and

| transit influence of that functional benefic planet. "

|

| Case 1: Leo Asc, FB Ju in Leo forms a mutual aspect to Rahu in Aries. The

| Sun and Mars are dispositors of the planets involved in this affliction of

| Jupiter. The first question is, would we be focusing on the sub-period of

| the dispositor of the afflictor or the afflicted to see the results of the

| affliction? Seen with the transits of course.

BOTH.

|

| Case 2: Cancer Asc, FM Ju and Ra as above. Since they are mutually

| afflicting, both the sub-periods of their dispositors tentatively become

| important, dependant on the answer to the first question.

SUB PERIODS OF BOTH THE SUN AND MARS.

|

| Additionally, in the case of a mutual beneficial aspect, would the FB

| dispositor see the results of the blessing in its sub-period (transits

| considered)?

|

YES.

|

| Best regards,

|

| Vyas Munidas

|

| -

| <siha

| <SAMVA >

| Monday, February 26, 2007 12:55 AM

| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

| Hello Vyas,

|

| Yoo reframe your question independently to enable me to reply.

|

| Best wishes,

|

| -

| " Vyas Munidas " <muni>

| <SAMVA >

| Monday, February 26, 2007 7:46 AM

| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

|| Hi Professor,

||

|| In regards to the first point, if there are two FB dispositors involved,

|| which sub-period do we focus on? Eg. FB Ju-Ra aspect with Ra in Ar, Ju in

|| Le, Leo ASC, FBs Mars and Sun are dispositors of the planets involved.

| There

|| is also the case where Ju is FM in the above example

||

|| Best regards,

||

|| Vyas Munidas

||

|| -

|| <siha

|| <SAMVA >

|| Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:37 PM

|| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

||

|| Hello dear list members,

||

|| INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

|| INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

||

|| Club South, South City-II,

|| Gurgaon, India.

|| 24th and 25th February, 2007.

||

|| The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney and

|| the message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA,

| was

|| also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions on

|| World Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and

| the

|| charts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

|| discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopes

|| presented by them.

||

|| The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in the

|| deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

||

|| 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

|| 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

|| 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

|| 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

|| 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

|| 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

|| 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

|| 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

|| 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

|| 11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

|| 12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

|| 13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

|| 14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.

|| 15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| 16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| 17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

|| 18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

|| 19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

|| 20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

|| 21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

|| 22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.

||

|| During the course of discussiions the following important points

emerged:

||

|| 1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

|| the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

|| influence of that functional benefic planet.

||

|| 2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the

| significations

|| ruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

|| chart and no planet is badly placed.

||

|| 3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions

can

|| cause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the child

|| reported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

|| house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of

| the

|| birth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.

||

|| 4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence

| Chart

|| for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,

|| 2007:

||

|| (a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimated

|| more than Rs. 2000m was lost.

||

|| (b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

||

|| (d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UP

|| and the ruling Central Government.

||

|| Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

|| spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event

| of

|| Moksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included

| the

|| birth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

|| charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were also

|| discussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. The

|| participants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the

memory

|| of important SA sutras, as well.

||

|| Best wishes,

||

|| -

|| " cosmologer " <cosmologer

||

|| Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AM

|| Fwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

||

||| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

|||

||| Dear ,

|||

||| Thank you for the additional insight.

|||

||| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I

||| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs

||| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.

|||

||| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

||| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the

||| dispositor of the FM planet involved.

|||

||| Best wishes,

|||

||| Thor

|||

||| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:

||| >

||| > Hello my dear Thor,

||| >

||| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers

| more.

||| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

||| period of

||| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.

||| >

||| > Best wishes,

||| >

||| > -

||| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

||| >

||| > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM

||| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

||| Astrologers

||| >

||| > | Dear ,

||| > |

||| > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are

||| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

||| > | the overall logic of SA.

||| > |

||| > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.

||| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional

||| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the

FM

||| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable

||| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor

||| > | (of the functional malefic)?

||| > |

||| > | Best wishes,

||| > |

||| > | Thor

||| > |

||| > | , <siha@> wrote:

||| > | >

||| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

||| > | >

||| > | > Thanks.

||| > | >

||| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed

| was

||| > | that

||| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

||| > | affliction, the

||| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

||| > | influence

||| > | > of that functional benefic planet.

||| > | >

||| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

||| > | Sankara

||| > | > Bhagvadpada later.

||| > | >

||| > | > Best wishes,

||| > | >

||| > | > -

||| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

||| > | > <samva >;

||| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM

||| > | > The Third International Conference of SA

||| Astrologers

||| > | >

||| > | > | Dear ,

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable

Third

||| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being

||| held in

||| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in

their

||| > | signs of

||| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's

||| nodes.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list

||| > | members I

||| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our

dear

||| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word

||| 'guru.' How

||| > | > appropriate!

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the

||| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the

||| > | > conference in coming days.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Best wishes,

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Thor

||| > | > |

||| > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

||| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Club South, South City-II,

||| > | > | Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.

||| > | > | The participants will share their experiences

| and

||| > | discuss

||| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more

||| effective and

||| > | > meaningful.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in

| the

||| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural

||| > | background

||| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach

for

||| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent

||| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the

||| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

||| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

||| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

||| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

||| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

||| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

||| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,

||| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,

||| > | Gurgaon.

||| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

||| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

||| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

||| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

||| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

||| > | > |

February 26, 2007

Thank you Professor, your reply is much appreciated.

Best regards,

Vyas Munidas

-

<siha

Monday, February 26, 2007 8:12 PM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

Hello dear Vyas,

I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below.

Best wishes,

-

" Vyas Munidas " <muni>

Monday, February 26, 2007 11:46 AM

Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

Astrologers

| Hi Professor,

|

| Ok. So we've got, " When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of

an

| affliction, the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and

| transit influence of that functional benefic planet. "

|

| Case 1: Leo Asc, FB Ju in Leo forms a mutual aspect to Rahu in Aries. The

| Sun and Mars are dispositors of the planets involved in this affliction of

| Jupiter. The first question is, would we be focusing on the sub-period of

| the dispositor of the afflictor or the afflicted to see the results of the

| affliction? Seen with the transits of course.

BOTH.

|

| Case 2: Cancer Asc, FM Ju and Ra as above. Since they are mutually

| afflicting, both the sub-periods of their dispositors tentatively become

| important, dependant on the answer to the first question.

SUB PERIODS OF BOTH THE SUN AND MARS.

|

| Additionally, in the case of a mutual beneficial aspect, would the FB

| dispositor see the results of the blessing in its sub-period (transits

| considered)?

|

YES.

|

| Best regards,

|

| Vyas Munidas

|

| -

| <siha

| <SAMVA >

| Monday, February 26, 2007 12:55 AM

| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

| Hello Vyas,

|

| Yoo reframe your question independently to enable me to reply.

|

| Best wishes,

|

| -

| " Vyas Munidas " <muni>

| <SAMVA >

| Monday, February 26, 2007 7:46 AM

| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

| Astrologers

|

|| Hi Professor,

||

|| In regards to the first point, if there are two FB dispositors involved,

|| which sub-period do we focus on? Eg. FB Ju-Ra aspect with Ra in Ar, Ju in

|| Le, Leo ASC, FBs Mars and Sun are dispositors of the planets involved.

| There

|| is also the case where Ju is FM in the above example

||

|| Best regards,

||

|| Vyas Munidas

||

|| -

|| <siha

|| <SAMVA >

|| Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:37 PM

|| Re: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

||

|| Hello dear list members,

||

|| INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

|| INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

||

|| Club South, South City-II,

|| Gurgaon, India.

|| 24th and 25th February, 2007.

||

|| The Conference started with a welcome address by Mr. Kumar Jhuraney and

|| the message from Dr. Shyan Smith, President, IIPA Colorado Chapter, USA,

| was

|| also read to the participants. The Conference opened with discussions on

|| World Affairs read with reference to the current transit influences and

| the

|| charts of US President. The participants shared their experiences and

|| discussed applications of the predictive techniques in the horoscopes

|| presented by them.

||

|| The following Systems'Approach astrologers participated in the

|| deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

||

|| 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

|| 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

|| 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

|| 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

|| 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

|| 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

|| 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

|| 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

|| 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

|| 11. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

|| 12. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

|| 13. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

|| 14. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter, Gurgaon.

|| 15. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| 16. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

|| 17. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

|| 18. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

|| 19. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

|| 20. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

|| 21. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

|| 22. Mr. , Gurgaon, India.

||

|| During the course of discussiions the following important points

emerged:

||

|| 1. When a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an affliction,

|| the results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

|| influence of that functional benefic planet.

||

|| 2. Prediction of unfavorable results can be made due to the

| significations

|| ruled by the weak planets even if there are no afflictions in the natal

|| chart and no planet is badly placed.

||

|| 3. In case of badly placed utterly weak planets the exact afflictions

can

|| cause severe problems at birth. A case study was presented for the child

|| reported to be blind at birth where weak Venus was placed in the twelfth

|| house under the exact affliction of Ketu and after a couple of months of

| the

|| birth the Rahu-Ketu axis was stationary at the ascending degree.

||

|| 4. Transit influences were also explained in the Indian Independence

| Chart

|| for the following important incidents in the week ending 25th February,

|| 2007:

||

|| (a) More than 5% fall in the stock market index where wealth estimated

|| more than Rs. 2000m was lost.

||

|| (b) 21 people died in a boat mishap.

||

|| (d) Sharp conflicts in political parties over SP Govt in the state of UP

|| and the ruling Central Government.

||

|| Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada made an illustrious presentation on the

|| spiritual aspect of SA astrology discussing the transit significant event

| of

|| Moksha (realisation) of Rev. Ramana Maharishi. The presentation included

| the

|| birth rectification done through the important events of his life. The

|| charts of other religious heads; Rev. Pope and Shirdi Sai Baba were also

|| discussed for drawing comparisons on spiritual aspects of life. The

|| participants throughly enjoyed the presentation which refreshed the

memory

|| of important SA sutras, as well.

||

|| Best wishes,

||

|| -

|| " cosmologer " <cosmologer

||

|| Monday, February 26, 2007 12:07 AM

|| Fwd: Re: The Third International Conference of SA

|| Astrologers

||

||| SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote:

|||

||| Dear ,

|||

||| Thank you for the additional insight.

|||

||| It makes sense that the impact is less when mutual aspect is there. I

||| was also thinking of cases where Saturn and Mars as FBs

||| cast 3, 4, 8 or 10 house aspects to FMs in benefic MT signs.

|||

||| In such cases the aspect would not be mutual and a favourable

||| influence could therefore be experienced in the period of the

||| dispositor of the FM planet involved.

|||

||| Best wishes,

|||

||| Thor

|||

||| SAMVA , <siha@> wrote:

||| >

||| > Hello my dear Thor,

||| >

||| > When there is a mutual aspect between a FB and a FM the FB suffers

| more.

||| > The favourable influence of this aspect would be shown during the

||| period of

||| > the dispositor but the extent will be limited.

||| >

||| > Best wishes,

||| >

||| > -

||| > " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

||| >

||| > Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:10 PM

||| > Re: The Third International Conference of SA

||| Astrologers

||| >

||| > | Dear ,

||| > |

||| > | Glad to hear the conference is going well and that new insights are

||| > | emerging. The new insight you mention seems to fit very well within

||| > | the overall logic of SA.

||| > |

||| > | Perhaps the following related question came up at the conference.

||| > | Assume there is an aspect of a functional benefic to a functional

||| > | malefic in a non-dusthana house of an MT sign. Further, assume the

FM

||| > | is not afflicting the house in question. Would the favourable

||| > | influence of this aspect show up during the period of the dispositor

||| > | (of the functional malefic)?

||| > |

||| > | Best wishes,

||| > |

||| > | Thor

||| > |

||| > | , <siha@> wrote:

||| > | >

||| > | > Hello my dear Thor,

||| > | >

||| > | > Thanks.

||| > | >

||| > | > During the course of discussions one important factors discussed

| was

||| > | that

||| > | > when a functional benefic planet becomes dispositor of an

||| > | affliction, the

||| > | > results of afflictions surface during the sub period and transit

||| > | influence

||| > | > of that functional benefic planet.

||| > | >

||| > | > Report on the discussions in the Conference would by given by Dr.

||| > | Sankara

||| > | > Bhagvadpada later.

||| > | >

||| > | > Best wishes,

||| > | >

||| > | > -

||| > | > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

||| > | > <samva >;

||| > | > Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 PM

||| > | > The Third International Conference of SA

||| Astrologers

||| > | >

||| > | > | Dear ,

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Wishing you and the participants a successful and enjoyable

Third

||| > | > International Conference of Systems' Approach Astrologers being

||| held in

||| > | > Gurgaon, India this weekend, when Moon, Mars and Venus are in

their

||| > | signs of

||| > | > exaltation and none of the planets are afflicted by the Moon's

||| nodes.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | For the information and enjoyment of SAMVA and SATVA101 list

||| > | members I

||| > | > mention the historical origin of the name of the city were our

dear

||| > | > Professor resides, Gurgaon. The name derives from the word

||| 'guru.' How

||| > | > appropriate!

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Our thoughts are with you dear and all the

||| > | > distinguished participants. We look forward to hear more about the

||| > | > conference in coming days.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Best wishes,

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Thor

||| > | > |

||| > | > | INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY

||| > | > | INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF SYSTEMS'APPROACH ASTROLOGERS

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Club South, South City-II,

||| > | > | Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 24th and 25th February, 2007.

||| > | > | The participants will share their experiences

| and

||| > | discuss

||| > | > techniques for making the astrological consultations more

||| effective and

||| > | > meaningful.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Intricacies of the astrological advice would be deliberated in

| the

||| > | > background of socio-economic, legal, psychological and cultural

||| > | background

||| > | > of the person seeking astrological advice.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Besides, the propounder of Systems' Approach

for

||| > | > Interpreting Horoscopes, Mr. V.K. Choudhry, the following eminent

||| > | > Systems'Approach astrologers have indicated to participate in the

||| > | > deliberations/proceedings of the Conference.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | 1. Dr. Jonathan Miller, President, IIPA California Chapter, USA.

||| > | > | 2. Dr. Ms Sloan Johnson, USA,

||| > | > | 3. Mr. R. K. Chadha, President, IIPA India Chapter, New Delhi.

||| > | > | 4. Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada, chennai, India.

||| > | > | 5. Dr. Mrs. K Batra, Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 6. Mr. Kumar Jhuraney, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 7. Mr. Jagdish Sethi, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 8. Mr. Aman Deep Saini, Delhi,India.

||| > | > | 9. Mr. S.K. Virmani, Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 10. Mr.Nawal Kishore, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 11. Mr.Rakesh Chawla, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 12. Mr.Raj Chillar, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 13. Mr.Gaurav Dhameja, Faridabad, India.

||| > | > | 14. Mr.Rakesh Sharma, Gurgaon, India.

||| > | > | 15. Ms.Sunita Singhal, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 16. Mr.Samarth S, India. Bangalore,

||| > | > | 17. Mr.K.Rajesh Chaudhary, Vice President, IIPA India Chapter,

||| > | Gurgaon.

||| > | > | 18. Mr. Pradeep Sethi, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 19. Ms Anju Sethi, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 20. Mr. Suman Vashishth, New Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 21. Colonel B. K. Kailash, Noida, India.

||| > | > | 22. Mr. R.C.Srivastava, Agra, India.

||| > | > | 23. Cdr. Ashutosh Pandey, Delhi, India.

||| > | > | 24. Mr. Vicaas Vansh Sharma, Bangalore, India.

||| > | > | 25. Mr. Rajesh Hasija, Gurgaon, India

||| > | > | 26. Cdr. Narender Prakash Chandola, Noida, India.

||| > | > |

||| > | > | Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

||| > | > |

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