Warren Buffet rectified chart

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My dear Mr. Angelino,For a longer-lasting, lifelong imprint upon the house, close MEP activation of the 5th house by a strong planet looks to be necessary. The magnitude of the results is given by close influences, not just on strength alone. The stronger the influencing planet(s) the better the results.A lot of us have strong planets; it's the activation of relevant houses and planets that takes a chart to a whole other level. In this case, the most prominently activated house would seemingly have to be the 5th.Best Wishes,ArunJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: My dear Arun, A social fraternity implies helping others. This is a true spiritual activity and an astral remedy, as well. The Moon, L1 (the native, the mind, affluence) in H5 (emotions, creative intelligence, speculative gains from investments). Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 20:15 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Jorge, Alpha Sigma Phi is a social fraternity; it has no affiliations with religion or spirituality. Where does wealth from investments specifically come from in this chart? Though the easy gains and status aspects of the chart can be seen, I cannot see where gains from investments are coming from. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Arun, As the MD of Saturn hapenned during the first 14 years of his life, things must have improved a lot after July 1945: And L6 aspects its own MT sign, which defends H6 significations. Also he was initiated with 18 years old in some spiritual practice, I think. 1948: (18 years old) - Buffett joins the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity. That must have been very helpful to mitigate this strong aspect of transformation over his life/health. Â

Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 01:29 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Mr. Angelino, But what about MMP Saturn's affliction to the MEP of the 6th? It is far closer to the MEP and, since L6 Jupiter is weak, it should have affected his health adversely, right? Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Arun, I think this chart explains his good vitality, as the aspect of Jupiter, L6, to MEP6 is practically a close one. This is also a very good factor for his financial stability. But if you check his life events, you will see that many times when transit and/or natal Jupiter was afflicted he had severe losses as well. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 00:59 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Mr. Angelino, Right. But before the age of 50, his health was still vulnerable in this chart. After 50, the wider aspect to the MEP of the 6th by L6 Jupiter becomes relevant. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Mr. Arun, Regarding health, never forget his strong Sun (vitality) and Mercury (nervous system). The first health significator, the Moon, is just debilitated. The other health significator aspects its own MT house. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 00:38 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Mr. Angelino, These are all valid points and I will, as you request, look into the triple transits further when I get the chance to. I do think that the chart has more merit than it's being given. Health is the big concern that I have though with this chart. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet’s life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me

share some thoughts on your points: 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why

some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can

be a stock investor of this calibre. I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some

trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge  SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com sábado, 5

de Agosto de 2006 17:14 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart   Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to

me. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart of: Warren

Buffett Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:25 Can

Pushya Sa Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM Tithi: Shukla Saptami Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me Dagha Rashis: Can Sag Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 5 * * 3 ** *6 *

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3 ** ******************************************************* Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: "Much success can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to constantly buy and sell." - Warren Buffett "You don't know who's swimming naked until the tide goes out" - Warren Buffett His lifelong guiding credos were "Number One: Never Lose Money!" and "Number Two: Never Forget Number One!" Buffett's speeches are known for mixing serious business discussions with humor. Buffett's writings are known for containing literary quotes ranging from the Bible to Mae West, as well as hokey Midwestern advice and numerous jokes. Buffett is notoriously technophobic. He claims not to have an e-mail address. Buffett is a supporter of the Democratic party and has supported the campaigns of former President Bill Clinton, former Presidental candidate John Kerry and Nebraska Senators Bob Kerrey and Ben Nelson. Warren Edward Buffett was born on August 30, 1930 to his father Howard, a stockbroker-turned-Congressman. The only boy, he was the second of three children, and displayed an amazing aptitude for both money and business at a very early age. “Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500." Buffett likes to eat at Gorat's Steak House in Omaha, Nebraska. He drinks up to 15 cans of Coca-Cola each day. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. He is a big fan of the card game bridge, and often plays it with Bill Gates. Buffett is currently working on an animated series with DiC Entertainment chief Andy Heyward. According to information presented by Buffett at the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting on May 6, 2006, the series will feature Buffett and Munger in roles and the series will teach children healthy financial habits for life. Howard Homan Buffett (August 13, 1903 – April 30, 1964), was an Omaha, Nebraska businessman and four-term Republican United States Representative. He is also remembered for his highly libertarian stance, having maintained a friendship with Murray Rothbard for a number of years. His mother was Leila Stahl Buffett, who lived till the ripe old age of 92. She died in 1996. Susan Thompson Buffett, nightclub singer, (June 15, 1932 - July 29, 2004 stroke), the wife of investor Warren Buffett was born in Omaha, Nebraska. Her father was a dean at the University of Omaha. She married Warren E. Buffett April 19, 1952, son of Howard Buffett. Children of Susan Thompson and Warren Buffett are: 104 i. Susan Alice Buffett, born July 30, 1953. (homemaker) 105 ii. Howard Graham Buffett, born December 16, 1954. (photographer) 106 iii. Peter Andrew Buffett, born May 04, 1958.

(musician) Warren Buffett on Monday (June 26, 2006) gave his fortune to Bill Gates. The ceremony, which took place before an audience of students and invited guests at the New York Public Library, was odd and affecting. Bill and Melinda Gates lined up on stage behind Buffett’s three adult children. This man’s brilliance at making money has now been matched by his sagacity in giving it away. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and

be very rich. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. 1944: (14 years old) - He invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres (0.2 km²) of farmland. 1945: (15 years old) - Buffett's first job was writing stock prices on a chalkboard at his father's brokerage. Later, he made $175 monthly delivering Washington Post newspapers. 1947: (17 years old) - In his senior year of high school, Buffett and a friend spent $25 to purchase a used pinball machine, which they placed in a barber shop. Within months, they owned three machines in different locations. They sold their business later in the year for $1,200 to a war veteran. By this time he had earned over $5,000 delivering newspapers. His father suggested he should attend college, a

suggestion Buffett did not take well. Nevertheless, that year, he enrolled as a freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1948: (18 years old) - Buffett joins the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity. 1951: (21 years old) - Buffett discovered Graham was on the Board of GEICO insurance at the time. Buffett graduated and wanted to go to work on Wall Street. Buffett purchased a Texaco gas station as a side investment, but that venture did not work out as well as he had hoped. Meanwhile, he worked as a stockbroker. During that time, Buffett also took a Dale Carnegie public speaking course. Buffett married Susan Thompson in April 19, 1952. The couple began living separately in 1977 but remained married until Thompson's death in July 2004. Buffett currently lives with long-time partner

Astrid Menks (ex-waitress), introduced to him by Susan Thompson in early 1978 when she separated from Buffett in late 1977. His daughter Susie also lives in Omaha and does charitable work through her Susan A. Buffett Foundation and as a national board member of Girls Inc. 1954: (24 years old) - Benjamin Graham called Buffett and offered him a job at his partnership at a starting salary of $12,000 a year. 1956: (26 years old) - Graham retired and folded up his partnership. Since leaving college six years earlier, Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, 1956, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of

$105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, Buffett created two additional partnerships, eventually bringing the number under his management to three. 1957: (27 years old) - Buffett added two more partnerships to his collection. He was then managing five investment partnerships from his home. With his wife about to have her third child, Peter, Buffett purchased a five-bedroom, stucco house on Farnam Street for $31,500. He has lived there ever since. 1959: (29 years old) - Buffett was introduced to Charlie Munger, the man who would eventually become the Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, and an integral part of the company's success. The two got along immediately. 1960: (30 years old) - Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors

who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) - With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufacturing company. 1962: (32 years old) - Buffett merged all of the partnerships into one entity known simply as Buffett Partnerships, Ltd. The operations were moved to Kiewit Plaza, a functional but less-than-grand office where they remain to this day. Buffett discovered a textile manufacturing firm, Berkshire Hathaway, that was selling for under $8 per share. Buffett and Seabury Stanton, the President of Berkshire and a large shareholder at the time, differed in the buy back price by three-eighths. Negotiations broke off and BPL purchased every share in sight until it established a 49% position and installed Ken Chace as President. 1964: (34 years old) - Due to a fraud scandal, American Express shares fell to $35. While the world was selling the stock, Buffett began to buy shares en masse. 1965: (35 years old) - Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died on April 30, 1964. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting on May 10, 1965, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. 1968: (38 years old) - The Buffett Partnership earned more than $40 million, bringing the total value to $104 million. Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) - Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. Among the assets paid out were shares of Berkshire Hathaway. Buffett's personal net worth reached $25 million. 1971: (41 years old) - At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1973: (43 years old) - Stock prices began to drop. At Buffett's direction, Berkshire borrowed money by issuing notes at 8%. 1974: (44 years old) - Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) - Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett 1978: (48 years old) - Susan introduced Warren to Astrid Menks, who eventually moved in with him. 1986: (56 years old) - Berkshire share price reached $3,000. 1987: (57 years old) - In the aftermath of the stock market crash of October 19, 1987, Berkshire lost 25% of its value, dropping from $4,230 per share to around $3,170.

1989: (59 years old) - Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) - Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. In 2006, he disclosed having sold the precious metal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett http://www.fatpitchfinancials.com/344/notes-on-charlie-rose-shows-warren-buffett-the-man/ Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598

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My dear

Professor,

 

Thanks. And what will be his rising sign?

 

 Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis

taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as

and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with

Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with

investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does

not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

I

respect your opinion as always.

 

But as my

hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing

an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process.

Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am

sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn

is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my

opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times

that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

Partial

aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to

understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past,

could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart

does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet’s

life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work,

which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is

unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental

and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. He used to drive a

2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use

rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

Warren

Buffett

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

Omaha, NE:USA

Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53

Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

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06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

Mars

08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra

Merc

10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST

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Jupt

20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

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29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra

Ma

Sat R 12:27

Sag -00:01:00 FM

Mula Ke

Rahu

02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini

Ke

Ketu

02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra

Ma

 

True Node

365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

Day: Saturday

Sunrise: 5:47 AM

Tithi: Shukla

Saptami

Yoga Pt: 22:57

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Some of the events/facts

used in the rectification:

 

" Much success

can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

" You don't know

who's swimming naked until the tide goes out " - Warren Buffett

 

His lifelong guiding

credos were " Number One: Never Lose Money! " and " Number Two:

Never Forget Number One! "

 

Buffett's speeches

are known for mixing serious business discussions with humor.

 

Buffett's writings

are known for containing literary quotes ranging from the Bible to Mae West, as

well as hokey Midwestern advice and numerous jokes.

 

Buffett is

notoriously technophobic. He claims not to have an e-mail address.

 

Buffett is a supporter

of the Democratic party and has supported the campaigns of former President

Bill Clinton, former Presidental candidate John Kerry and Nebraska Senators Bob

Kerrey and Ben Nelson.

 

Warren Edward

Buffett was born on August 30, 1930 to his father Howard, a stockbroker-turned-Congressman.

The only boy, he was the second of three children, and displayed an amazing

aptitude for both money and business at a very early age.

 

“Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. "

 

Buffett likes to eat

at Gorat's Steak House in Omaha, Nebraska. He drinks up to 15 cans of Coca-Cola

each day. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently

purchased a Cadillac DTS. He is a big fan of the card game bridge, and often

plays it with Bill Gates.

 

Buffett is currently

working on an animated series with DiC Entertainment chief Andy Heyward.

According to information presented by Buffett at the Berkshire Hathaway annual

meeting on May 6, 2006, the series will feature Buffett and Munger in roles and

the series will teach children healthy financial habits for life.

 

Howard Homan Buffett

(August 13, 1903 – April 30, 1964), was an Omaha, Nebraska businessman and

four-term Republican United States Representative. He is also remembered for

his highly libertarian stance, having maintained a friendship with Murray

Rothbard for a number of years.

 

His mother was Leila

Stahl Buffett, who lived till the ripe old age of 92. She died in 1996.

 

Susan Thompson

Buffett, nightclub singer, (June 15, 1932 - July 29, 2004 stroke), the wife of

investor Warren Buffett was born in Omaha, Nebraska. Her father was a dean at

the University of Omaha. She married Warren E. Buffett April 19, 1952, son of

Howard Buffett.

 

Children of Susan

Thompson and Warren Buffett are:

104 i.

Susan Alice Buffett, born July 30, 1953. (homemaker)

105 ii.

Howard Graham Buffett, born December 16, 1954. (photographer)

106 iii.

Peter Andrew Buffett, born May 04, 1958. (musician)

 

Warren Buffett on

Monday (June 26, 2006) gave his fortune to Bill Gates. The ceremony, which took

place before an audience of students and invited guests at the New York Public

Library, was odd and affecting. Bill and Melinda Gates lined up on stage behind

Buffett’s three adult children. This man’s brilliance at making money has now

been matched by his sagacity in giving it away.

 

 

 

 

On Aug 13, 1931,

Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all

savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at

the children on a regular basis. Warren and family suffered poverty in his

early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to

Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich.

 

Family fortunes

improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older

sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no

date.

 

1944: (14 years old)

- He invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres (0.2 km²) of farmland.

 

1945: (15 years old)

- Buffett's first job was writing stock prices on a chalkboard at his father's

brokerage. Later, he made $175 monthly delivering Washington Post newspapers.

 

1947: (17 years old)

- In his senior year of high school, Buffett and a friend spent $25 to purchase

a used pinball machine, which they placed in a barber shop. Within months, they

owned three machines in different locations. They sold their business later in

the year for $1,200 to a war veteran.

By this time he had

earned over $5,000 delivering newspapers.

His father suggested

he should attend college, a suggestion Buffett did not take well. Nevertheless,

that year, he enrolled as a freshman at the Wharton School of the University of

Pennsylvania.

 

1948: (18 years old)

- Buffett joins the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity.

 

1951: (21 years old)

- Buffett discovered Graham was on the Board of GEICO insurance at the time.

Buffett graduated and wanted to go to work on Wall Street. Buffett purchased a

Texaco gas station as a side investment, but that venture did not work out as

well as he had hoped. Meanwhile, he worked as a stockbroker. During that time,

Buffett also took a Dale Carnegie public speaking course.

 

Buffett married

Susan Thompson in April 19, 1952. The couple began living separately in 1977

but remained married until Thompson's death in July 2004. Buffett currently

lives with long-time partner Astrid Menks (ex-waitress), introduced to him

by Susan Thompson in early 1978 when she separated from Buffett in late 1977.

His daughter Susie also lives in Omaha and does charitable work through her

Susan A. Buffett Foundation and as a national board member of Girls Inc.

 

1954: (24 years old)

- Benjamin Graham called Buffett and offered him a job at his partnership at a

starting salary of $12,000 a year.

 

1956: (26 years old)

- Graham retired and folded up his partnership. Since leaving college six years

earlier, Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The

Buffett family returned home to Omaha.

 

On May 1, 1956,

Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven

family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested

only $100. Over the course of the year, Buffett created two additional

partnerships, eventually bringing the number under his management to three.

 

1957: (27 years old)

- Buffett added two more partnerships to his collection. He was then managing

five investment partnerships from his home. With his wife about to have her

third child, Peter, Buffett purchased a five-bedroom, stucco house on Farnam

Street for $31,500. He has lived there ever since.

 

1959: (29 years old)

- Buffett was introduced to Charlie Munger, the man who would eventually become

the Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, and an integral part of the company's

success. The two got along immediately.

 

1960: (30 years old)

- Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who

will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11

doctors agreed to invest.

 

1961: (31 years old)

- With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million

investment in a windmill-manufacturing company.

 

1962: (32 years old)

- Buffett merged all of the partnerships into one entity known simply as

Buffett Partnerships, Ltd. The operations were moved to Kiewit Plaza, a functional

but less-than-grand office where they remain to this day. Buffett discovered a

textile manufacturing firm, Berkshire Hathaway, that was selling for under $8

per share. Buffett and Seabury Stanton, the President of Berkshire and a large

shareholder at the time, differed in the buy back price by three-eighths.

Negotiations broke off and BPL purchased every share in sight until it

established a 49% position and installed Ken Chace as President.

 

1964: (34 years old)

- Due to a fraud scandal, American Express shares fell to $35. While the world

was selling the stock, Buffett began to buy shares en masse.

 

1965: (35 years old)

- Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died on April 30, 1964.

 

Gained control of

Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting on May 10, 1965, becoming chairman of the

executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president.

 

1968: (38 years old)

- The Buffett Partnership earned more than $40 million, bringing the total

value to $104 million. Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a

prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa.

 

1969: (39 years old)

- Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and

liquidated its assets to his partners. Among the assets paid out were shares of

Berkshire Hathaway.

Buffett's personal

net worth reached $25 million.

 

1971: (41 years old)

- At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna

Beach.

 

1973: (43 years old)

- Stock prices began to drop. At Buffett's direction, Berkshire borrowed money

by issuing notes at 8%.

 

1974: (44 years old)

- Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began

to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities

and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett

and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation.

 

1977: (47 years old)

- Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million.

Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused

considerable emotional distress for Buffett

 

1978: (48 years old)

- Susan introduced Warren to Astrid Menks, who eventually moved in with him.

 

1986: (56 years old)

- Berkshire share price reached $3,000.

 

1987: (57 years old)

- In the aftermath of the stock market crash of October 19, 1987, Berkshire

lost 25% of its value, dropping from $4,230 per share to around $3,170.

 

1989: (59 years old)

- Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose

with it to $3.8 billion.

 

1997: (67 years old)

- Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at

about $6 per ounce. In 2006, he disclosed having sold the precious metal.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

 

http://www.fatpitchfinancials.com/344/notes-on-charlie-rose-shows-warren-buffett-the-man/

 

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Much thanks, my dear Jorge.Best Wishes,ArunJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: My dear Arun, His H5 is non-MT, so we have to look for the strenght of its significator Jupiter, which aspects its own MT house of financial stability. Also the H5 has similarities with Leo rasi, and the Sun his very strong as it occupies the middle of its own MT rasi in the house of wealth. Best

wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 19:11 To:

SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Mr. Angelino, For a longer-lasting, lifelong imprint upon the house, close MEP activation of the 5th house by a strong planet looks to be necessary. The magnitude of the results is given by close influences, not just on strength alone. The stronger the influencing planet(s) the better the results. A lot of us have strong planets; it's the activation of relevant houses and planets that takes a chart to a whole other level. In this case, the most prominently activated house would seemingly have to be the 5th. Best

Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Arun, A social fraternity implies helping others. This is a true spiritual activity and an astral remedy, as well. The Moon, L1 (the native, the mind, affluence) in H5 (emotions, creative intelligence, speculative gains from investments). Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 20:15 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Jorge, Alpha Sigma Phi is a social fraternity; it has no affiliations with religion or spirituality. Where does wealth from investments specifically come from in this chart? Though the easy gains and status aspects of the chart can be seen, I cannot see where gains from investments are coming from. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Arun, As the MD of Saturn hapenned during the first 14 years of his life, things must have improved a lot after July 1945: And L6 aspects its own MT sign, which defends H6 significations. Also he was initiated with 18 years old in some spiritual practice, I think.

1948: (18 years old) - Buffett joins the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity. That must have been very helpful to mitigate this strong aspect of transformation over his life/health. Â Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 01:29 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Mr. Angelino, But what about MMP Saturn's affliction

to the MEP of the 6th? It is far closer to the MEP and, since L6 Jupiter is weak, it should have affected his health adversely, right? Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Arun, I think this chart explains his good vitality, as the aspect of Jupiter, L6, to MEP6 is practically a close one. This is also a very good factor for his financial stability. But if you check his life events, you will see that many times when transit and/or natal Jupiter was afflicted he had severe losses as well. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 00:59 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Mr. Angelino, Right. But before the age of 50, his health was

still vulnerable in this chart. After 50, the wider aspect to the MEP of the 6th by L6 Jupiter becomes relevant. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Mr. Arun, Regarding health, never forget his strong Sun (vitality) and Mercury (nervous system). The first health significator, the Moon, is just debilitated. The other health significator aspects its own MT house. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun Rao domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 00:38 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Mr. Angelino,

These are all valid points and I will, as you request, look into the triple transits further when I get the chance to. I do think that the chart has more merit than it's being given. Health is the big concern that I have though with this chart. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long

list of events of Warren Buffet’s life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points: 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to

this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere

some trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge  SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart   Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me. Best wishes, -

Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart of: Warren Buffett

Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:25 Can

Pushya Sa Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44

WK Chitra Ma Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke Ketu 02:00 Lib

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1 * * 3 ** ******************************************************* Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: "Much success can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to constantly buy and sell." - Warren Buffett "You don't know who's swimming naked until the tide goes out" - Warren Buffett His lifelong guiding credos were "Number One: Never Lose Money!" and "Number Two: Never Forget

Number One!" Buffett's speeches are known for mixing serious business discussions with humor. Buffett's writings are known for

containing literary quotes ranging from the Bible to Mae West, as well as hokey Midwestern advice and numerous jokes. Buffett is notoriously technophobic. He claims not to have an e-mail address. Buffett is a supporter of the Democratic party and has supported the campaigns of former President Bill Clinton, former Presidental candidate John Kerry and Nebraska Senators Bob Kerrey and Ben Nelson. Warren Edward Buffett was born on August 30, 1930 to his father Howard, a stockbroker-turned-Congressman. The only boy, he was the second of three children, and displayed an amazing aptitude for both money and business at a very early age. “Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500." Buffett likes to eat at Gorat's Steak House in Omaha, Nebraska. He drinks up to 15 cans of Coca-Cola each day. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. He is a big fan of the card game bridge, and often plays it with Bill Gates. Buffett is currently working on an animated series with DiC Entertainment chief Andy

Heyward. According to information presented by Buffett at the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting on May 6, 2006, the series will feature Buffett and Munger in roles and the series will teach children healthy financial habits for life. Howard Homan Buffett (August 13, 1903 – April 30, 1964), was an Omaha, Nebraska businessman and four-term Republican United States

Representative. He is also remembered for his highly libertarian stance, having maintained a friendship with Murray Rothbard for a number of years. His mother was Leila Stahl Buffett, who lived till the ripe old age of 92. She died in 1996. Susan Thompson Buffett, nightclub singer, (June 15, 1932 - July 29, 2004 stroke), the wife of investor Warren Buffett was born in Omaha, Nebraska. Her father was a dean at the University of Omaha. She married Warren E. Buffett April 19, 1952, son of Howard Buffett. Children of Susan Thompson and Warren Buffett are: 104 i. Susan Alice Buffett, born July 30, 1953. (homemaker) 105 ii. Howard Graham Buffett, born December 16, 1954. (photographer) 106 iii. Peter Andrew Buffett, born May 04, 1958. (musician) Warren Buffett on Monday (June 26, 2006) gave his fortune to Bill Gates. The ceremony, which took place before an audience of students and invited guests at the New York Public Library, was odd and affecting. Bill and Melinda Gates lined up on stage behind Buffett’s three adult children. This man’s brilliance at making money has now been matched by

his sagacity in giving it away. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the

depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. 1944: (14 years old) - He invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres (0.2 km²) of farmland. 1945: (15 years old) - Buffett's first job was writing stock prices on a chalkboard at his father's brokerage. Later,

he made $175 monthly delivering Washington Post newspapers. 1947: (17 years old) - In his senior year of high school, Buffett and a friend spent $25 to purchase a used pinball machine, which they placed in a barber shop. Within months, they owned three machines in different locations. They sold their business later in the year for $1,200 to a war veteran. By this time he had earned over $5,000 delivering newspapers. His father suggested he should attend college, a suggestion Buffett did not take well. Nevertheless, that year, he enrolled as a freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1948: (18 years old) - Buffett

joins the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity. 1951: (21 years old) - Buffett discovered Graham was on the Board of GEICO insurance at the time. Buffett graduated and wanted to go to work on Wall Street. Buffett purchased a Texaco gas station as a side investment, but that venture did not work out as well as he had hoped. Meanwhile, he worked as a stockbroker. During that time, Buffett also took a Dale Carnegie public speaking course. Buffett married Susan Thompson in April 19, 1952. The couple began living separately in 1977 but remained married until Thompson's death in July 2004. Buffett currently lives with long-time partner Astrid Menks (ex-waitress), introduced to him by Susan Thompson in early 1978 when she separated from Buffett in late 1977. His daughter Susie also lives in Omaha and does charitable work through her Susan A. Buffett Foundation and as a national board member of Girls Inc. 1954: (24 years old) - Benjamin Graham called Buffett and offered him a job at his partnership at a starting salary of $12,000 a year. 1956: (26 years old) - Graham retired and folded up his partnership. Since leaving college six years earlier, Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, 1956, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, Buffett created two additional partnerships, eventually bringing the number under his management to three. 1957: (27 years old) - Buffett added two more partnerships to his collection. He was then managing five investment partnerships from his home. With his wife about to have her third child, Peter, Buffett purchased a five-bedroom, stucco house on Farnam Street for $31,500. He has lived there ever since. 1959: (29 years old) - Buffett was introduced to Charlie Munger, the man who would

eventually become the Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, and an integral part of the company's success. The two got along immediately. 1960: (30 years old) - Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) - With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufacturing company. 1962: (32 years old) - Buffett merged all of the partnerships into one entity known simply as Buffett Partnerships, Ltd. The operations were moved to Kiewit Plaza, a functional but less-than-grand office where they remain to this day.

Buffett discovered a textile manufacturing firm, Berkshire Hathaway, that was selling for under $8 per share. Buffett and Seabury Stanton, the President of Berkshire and a large shareholder at the time, differed in the buy back price by three-eighths. Negotiations broke off and BPL purchased every share in sight until it established a 49% position and installed Ken Chace as President. 1964: (34 years old) - Due to a fraud scandal, American Express shares fell to $35. While the world was selling the stock, Buffett began to buy shares en masse.

1965: (35 years old) - Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died on April 30, 1964. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board

meeting on May 10, 1965, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. 1968: (38 years old) - The Buffett Partnership earned more than $40 million, bringing the total value to $104 million. Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) - Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. Among the assets paid out were shares of Berkshire Hathaway. Buffett's personal net worth reached $25 million. 1971: (41 years old) - At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1973: (43 years old) - Stock prices began to drop. At Buffett's direction, Berkshire borrowed money by issuing notes at 8%. 1974: (44 years old) - Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) - Berkshire indirectly purchased the

Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett 1978: (48 years old) - Susan introduced Warren to Astrid Menks, who eventually moved in with him. 1986: (56 years old) - Berkshire share price reached $3,000. 1987: (57 years old) - In the aftermath of the stock market crash of October 19, 1987, Berkshire lost 25% of its value, dropping from $4,230 per share to around $3,170. 1989: (59 years old) - Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) - Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. In 2006, he disclosed having sold the precious

metal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett http://www.fatpitchfinancials.com/344/notes-on-charlie-rose-shows-warren-buffett-the-man/ Best wishes, satva Jorge Angelino Rua da Sociedade Filarmónica Perpétua Azeitonense, 29 2925-598 Azeitão Portugal jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt tel: mobile: 210813674 963916784 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/409 - Release 04.08.2006 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database:

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Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

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Jorge Angelino

SAMVA

Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

Thanks. And what will be his rising sign?

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of sihaSent: segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

Jorge Angelino

 

SAMVA

 

Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

Thanks again for your input.

 

In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jorge Angelino

 

SAMVA

 

Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

I respect your opinion as always.

 

But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jorge Angelino

 

SAMVA

 

Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

Thank you for your comments.

 

I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet’s life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship.

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart.

 

It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life.

 

 

 

 

Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

Jorge Angelino

 

SAMVA

 

Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

This is the rectified chart of:

 

Warren Buffett

Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

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Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa

Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra

Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma

Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke

Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke

Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma

 

True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM

Tithi: Shukla Saptami

Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

Dagha Rashis: Can Sag

 

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Some of the events/facts used in the rectification:

 

"Much success can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to constantly buy and sell." - Warren Buffett

 

"You don't know who's swimming naked until the tide goes out" - Warren Buffett

 

His lifelong guiding credos were "Number One: Never Lose Money!" and "Number Two: Never Forget Number One!"

 

Buffett's speeches are known for mixing serious business discussions with humor.

 

Buffett's writings are known for containing literary quotes ranging from the Bible to Mae West, as well as hokey Midwestern advice and numerous jokes.

 

Buffett is notoriously technophobic. He claims not to have an e-mail address.

 

Buffett is a supporter of the Democratic party and has supported the campaigns of former President Bill Clinton, former Presidental candidate John Kerry and Nebraska Senators Bob Kerrey and Ben Nelson.

 

Warren Edward Buffett was born on August 30, 1930 to his father Howard, a stockbroker-turned-Congressman. The only boy, he was the second of three children, and displayed an amazing aptitude for both money and business at a very early age.

 

“Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500."

 

Buffett likes to eat at Gorat's Steak House in Omaha, Nebraska. He drinks up to 15 cans of Coca-Cola each day. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. He is a big fan of the card game bridge, and often plays it with Bill Gates.

 

Buffett is currently working on an animated series with DiC Entertainment chief Andy Heyward. According to information presented by Buffett at the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting on May 6, 2006, the series will feature Buffett and Munger in roles and the series will teach children healthy financial habits for life.

 

Howard Homan Buffett (August 13, 1903 – April 30, 1964), was an Omaha, Nebraska businessman and four-term Republican United States Representative. He is also remembered for his highly libertarian stance, having maintained a friendship with Murray Rothbard for a number of years.

 

His mother was Leila Stahl Buffett, who lived till the ripe old age of 92. She died in 1996.

 

Susan Thompson Buffett, nightclub singer, (June 15, 1932 - July 29, 2004 stroke), the wife of investor Warren Buffett was born in Omaha, Nebraska. Her father was a dean at the University of Omaha. She married Warren E. Buffett April 19, 1952, son of Howard Buffett.

 

Children of Susan Thompson and Warren Buffett are:

104 i. Susan Alice Buffett, born July 30, 1953. (homemaker)

105 ii. Howard Graham Buffett, born December 16, 1954. (photographer)

106 iii. Peter Andrew Buffett, born May 04, 1958. (musician)

 

Warren Buffett on Monday (June 26, 2006) gave his fortune to Bill Gates. The ceremony, which took place before an audience of students and invited guests at the New York Public Library, was odd and affecting. Bill and Melinda Gates lined up on stage behind Buffett’s three adult children. This man’s brilliance at making money has now been matched by his sagacity in giving it away.

 

 

 

On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich.

 

Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date.

 

1944: (14 years old) - He invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres (0.2 km²) of farmland.

 

1945: (15 years old) - Buffett's first job was writing stock prices on a chalkboard at his father's brokerage. Later, he made $175 monthly delivering Washington Post newspapers.

 

1947: (17 years old) - In his senior year of high school, Buffett and a friend spent $25 to purchase a used pinball machine, which they placed in a barber shop. Within months, they owned three machines in different locations. They sold their business later in the year for $1,200 to a war veteran.

By this time he had earned over $5,000 delivering newspapers.

His father suggested he should attend college, a suggestion Buffett did not take well. Nevertheless, that year, he enrolled as a freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

 

1948: (18 years old) - Buffett joins the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity.

 

1951: (21 years old) - Buffett discovered Graham was on the Board of GEICO insurance at the time. Buffett graduated and wanted to go to work on Wall Street. Buffett purchased a Texaco gas station as a side investment, but that venture did not work out as well as he had hoped. Meanwhile, he worked as a stockbroker. During that time, Buffett also took a Dale Carnegie public speaking course.

 

Buffett married Susan Thompson in April 19, 1952. The couple began living separately in 1977 but remained married until Thompson's death in July 2004. Buffett currently lives with long-time partner Astrid Menks (ex-waitress), introduced to him by Susan Thompson in early 1978 when she separated from Buffett in late 1977. His daughter Susie also lives in Omaha and does charitable work through her Susan A. Buffett Foundation and as a national board member of Girls Inc.

 

1954: (24 years old) - Benjamin Graham called Buffett and offered him a job at his partnership at a starting salary of $12,000 a year.

 

1956: (26 years old) - Graham retired and folded up his partnership. Since leaving college six years earlier, Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha.

 

On May 1, 1956, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, Buffett created two additional partnerships, eventually bringing the number under his management to three.

 

1957: (27 years old) - Buffett added two more partnerships to his collection. He was then managing five investment partnerships from his home. With his wife about to have her third child, Peter, Buffett purchased a five-bedroom, stucco house on Farnam Street for $31,500. He has lived there ever since.

 

1959: (29 years old) - Buffett was introduced to Charlie Munger, the man who would eventually become the Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, and an integral part of the company's success. The two got along immediately.

 

1960: (30 years old) - Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest.

 

1961: (31 years old) - With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufacturing company.

 

1962: (32 years old) - Buffett merged all of the partnerships into one entity known simply as Buffett Partnerships, Ltd. The operations were moved to Kiewit Plaza, a functional but less-than-grand office where they remain to this day. Buffett discovered a textile manufacturing firm, Berkshire Hathaway, that was selling for under $8 per share. Buffett and Seabury Stanton, the President of Berkshire and a large shareholder at the time, differed in the buy back price by three-eighths. Negotiations broke off and BPL purchased every share in sight until it established a 49% position and installed Ken Chace as President.

 

1964: (34 years old) - Due to a fraud scandal, American Express shares fell to $35. While the world was selling the stock, Buffett began to buy shares en masse.

 

1965: (35 years old) - Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died on April 30, 1964.

 

Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting on May 10, 1965, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president.

 

1968: (38 years old) - The Buffett Partnership earned more than $40 million, bringing the total value to $104 million. Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa.

 

1969: (39 years old) - Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. Among the assets paid out were shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

Buffett's personal net worth reached $25 million.

 

1971: (41 years old) - At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach.

 

1973: (43 years old) - Stock prices began to drop. At Buffett's direction, Berkshire borrowed money by issuing notes at 8%.

 

1974: (44 years old) - Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation.

 

1977: (47 years old) - Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett

 

1978: (48 years old) - Susan introduced Warren to Astrid Menks, who eventually moved in with him.

 

1986: (56 years old) - Berkshire share price reached $3,000.

 

1987: (57 years old) - In the aftermath of the stock market crash of October 19, 1987, Berkshire lost 25% of its value, dropping from $4,230 per share to around $3,170.

 

1989: (59 years old) - Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion.

 

1997: (67 years old) - Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. In 2006, he disclosed having sold the precious metal.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

 

http://www.fatpitchfinancials.com/344/notes-on-charlie-rose-shows-warren-buffett-the-man/

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jorge and members,

 

I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth

house than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for

sure, here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character,

befitting a weak fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother.

I mean how else do we account for discrepancies like that in charts of

" successful " people. Everyone has something they are working

through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

The video was not currently working..

 

 

In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good

corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his

good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and

did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to

create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits

me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but

it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a

driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder.On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino

> wrote:

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thank you. I thought may be you would like

to see himself telling his story

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

siha

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has

been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sent:

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis

taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as

and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sent:

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with

Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments

and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show

the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sent:

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

I respect

your opinion as always.

 

But as

my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of

doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification

process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I

am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn

is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my

opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times

that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

Partial

aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to

understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past,

could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart

does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sent:

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's

life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work,

which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

1)

A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is

unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental

and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. He used to drive a

2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

2)

The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

3)

Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use

rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sent:

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

Subject:

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

Warren

Buffett

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

Omaha, NE:USA

Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

Lahiri Ayanamsha:

22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

Planet Deg

Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc

15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

Sun

13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

Mars

08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra

Merc

10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST

Hasta Mo

Jupt

20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

Ven

29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra

Ma

Sat R 12:27

Sag -00:01:00 FM

Mula Ke

Rahu

02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini

Ke

Ketu

02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra

Ma

 

True Node

365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

Day: Saturday

Sunrise: 5:47 AM

Tithi: Shukla

Saptami

Yoga Pt: 22:57

Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

Dagha Rashis: Can

Sag

 

Rashi Chart

*******************************************************

 

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Some of the

events/facts used in the rectification:

 

" Much success

can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

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[Guest guest]

My dear

Professor,

 

Before seeing the video, we have to

install in our computers Google Video Player.

 

Here is another interesting video with

Bill and Melinda Gates:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=515260011274566220

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 09:27

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks. But it is not

working at the moment.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 12:13 PM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thank

you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has

been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

 

Best

wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis

taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as

and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with

Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with

investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all,

does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

I

respect your opinion as always.

 

But as

my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of

doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification

process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I

am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn

is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my

opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times

that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

Partial

aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to

understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past,

could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart

does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet’s

life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work,

which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is

unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental

and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. He used to drive a

2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use

rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

Warren

Buffett

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

Omaha, NE:USA

Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

Lahiri Ayanamsha:

22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

Planet Deg

Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc

15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

Sun

13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

Mars

08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra

Merc

10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST

Hasta Mo

Jupt

20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

Ven

29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra

Ma

Sat R 12:27

Sag -00:01:00 FM

Mula Ke

Rahu

02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini

Ke

Ketu

02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra

Ma

 

True Node

365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

Day: Saturday

Sunrise: 5:47 AM

Tithi: Shukla

Saptami

Yoga Pt: 22:57

Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

Dagha Rashis: Can

Sag

 

Rashi Chart

*******************************************************

 

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Some of the

events/facts used in the rectification:

 

" Much success

can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

" You don't know

who's swimming naked until the tide goes out " - Warren Buffett

 

His lifelong guiding

credos were " Number One: Never Lose Money! " and " Number Two:

Never Forget Number One! "

 

Buffett's speeches

are known for mixing serious business discussions with humor.

 

Buffett's writings

are known for containing literary quotes ranging from the Bible to Mae West, as

well as hokey Midwestern advice and numerous jokes.

 

Buffett is

notoriously technophobic. He claims not to have an e-mail address.

 

Buffett is a

supporter of the Democratic party and has supported the campaigns of former

President Bill Clinton, former Presidental candidate John Kerry and Nebraska

Senators Bob Kerrey and Ben Nelson.

 

Warren Edward

Buffett was born on August 30, 1930 to his father Howard, a stockbroker-turned-Congressman.

The only boy, he was the second of three children, and displayed an amazing

aptitude for both money and business at a very early age.

 

“Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. "

 

Buffett likes to eat

at Gorat's Steak House in Omaha, Nebraska. He drinks up to 15 cans of Coca-Cola

each day. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently

purchased a Cadillac DTS. He is a big fan of the card game bridge, and often

plays it with Bill Gates.

 

Buffett is currently

working on an animated series with DiC Entertainment chief Andy Heyward.

According to information presented by Buffett at the Berkshire Hathaway annual

meeting on May 6, 2006, the series will feature Buffett and Munger in roles and

the series will teach children healthy financial habits for life.

 

Howard Homan Buffett

(August 13, 1903 – April 30, 1964), was an Omaha, Nebraska businessman and

four-term Republican United States Representative. He is also remembered for

his highly libertarian stance, having maintained a friendship with Murray

Rothbard for a number of years.

 

His mother was Leila

Stahl Buffett, who lived till the ripe old age of 92. She died in 1996.

 

Susan Thompson

Buffett, nightclub singer, (June 15, 1932 - July 29, 2004 stroke), the wife of

investor Warren Buffett was born in Omaha, Nebraska. Her father was a dean at

the University of Omaha. She married Warren E. Buffett April 19, 1952, son of

Howard Buffett.

 

Children of Susan

Thompson and Warren Buffett are:

104 i.

Susan Alice Buffett, born July 30, 1953. (homemaker)

105 ii.

Howard Graham Buffett, born December 16, 1954. (photographer)

106 iii.

Peter Andrew Buffett, born May 04, 1958. (musician)

 

Warren Buffett on

Monday (June 26, 2006) gave his fortune to Bill Gates. The ceremony, which took

place before an audience of students and invited guests at the New York Public

Library, was odd and affecting. Bill and Melinda Gates lined up on stage behind

Buffett’s three adult children. This man’s brilliance at making money has now

been matched by his sagacity in giving it away.

 

 

 

 

On Aug 13, 1931,

Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all

savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at

the children on a regular basis. Warren and family suffered poverty in his

early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to

Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich.

 

Family fortunes

improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older

sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no

date.

 

1944: (14 years old)

- He invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres (0.2 km²) of farmland.

 

1945: (15 years old)

- Buffett's first job was writing stock prices on a chalkboard at his father's

brokerage. Later, he made $175 monthly delivering Washington Post newspapers.

 

1947: (17 years old)

- In his senior year of high school, Buffett and a friend spent $25 to purchase

a used pinball machine, which they placed in a barber shop. Within months, they

owned three machines in different locations. They sold their business later in

the year for $1,200 to a war veteran.

By this time he had

earned over $5,000 delivering newspapers.

His father suggested

he should attend college, a suggestion Buffett did not take well. Nevertheless,

that year, he enrolled as a freshman at the Wharton School of the University of

Pennsylvania.

 

1948: (18 years old)

- Buffett joins the Alpha Sigma Phi fraternity.

 

1951: (21 years old)

- Buffett discovered Graham was on the Board of GEICO insurance at the time.

Buffett graduated and wanted to go to work on Wall Street. Buffett purchased a

Texaco gas station as a side investment, but that venture did not work out as

well as he had hoped. Meanwhile, he worked as a stockbroker. During that time,

Buffett also took a Dale Carnegie public speaking course.

 

Buffett married

Susan Thompson in April 19, 1952. The couple began living separately in 1977

but remained married until Thompson's death in July 2004. Buffett currently

lives with long-time partner Astrid Menks (ex-waitress), introduced to him

by Susan Thompson in early 1978 when she separated from Buffett in late 1977.

His daughter Susie also lives in Omaha and does charitable work through her

Susan A. Buffett Foundation and as a national board member of Girls Inc.

 

1954: (24 years old)

- Benjamin Graham called Buffett and offered him a job at his partnership at a

starting salary of $12,000 a year.

 

1956: (26 years old)

- Graham retired and folded up his partnership. Since leaving college six years

earlier, Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The

Buffett family returned home to Omaha.

 

On May 1, 1956,

Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven

family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested

only $100. Over the course of the year, Buffett created two additional

partnerships, eventually bringing the number under his management to three.

 

1957: (27 years old)

- Buffett added two more partnerships to his collection. He was then managing

five investment partnerships from his home. With his wife about to have her

third child, Peter, Buffett purchased a five-bedroom, stucco house on Farnam

Street for $31,500. He has lived there ever since.

 

1959: (29 years old)

- Buffett was introduced to Charlie Munger, the man who would eventually become

the Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, and an integral part of the company's

success. The two got along immediately.

 

1960: (30 years old)

- Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who

will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11

doctors agreed to invest.

 

1961: (31 years old)

- With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million

investment in a windmill-manufacturing company.

 

1962: (32 years old)

- Buffett merged all of the partnerships into one entity known simply as

Buffett Partnerships, Ltd. The operations were moved to Kiewit Plaza, a

functional but less-than-grand office where they remain to this day. Buffett

discovered a textile manufacturing firm, Berkshire Hathaway, that was selling

for under $8 per share. Buffett and Seabury Stanton, the President of Berkshire

and a large shareholder at the time, differed in the buy back price by

three-eighths. Negotiations broke off and BPL purchased every share in sight

until it established a 49% position and installed Ken Chace as President.

 

1964: (34 years old)

- Due to a fraud scandal, American Express shares fell to $35. While the world

was selling the stock, Buffett began to buy shares en masse.

 

1965: (35 years old)

- Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died on April 30, 1964.

 

Gained control of

Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting on May 10, 1965, becoming chairman of the

executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president.

 

1968: (38 years old)

- The Buffett Partnership earned more than $40 million, bringing the total

value to $104 million. Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a

prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa.

 

1969: (39 years old)

- Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and

liquidated its assets to his partners. Among the assets paid out were shares of

Berkshire Hathaway.

Buffett's personal

net worth reached $25 million.

 

1971: (41 years old)

- At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna

Beach.

 

1973: (43 years old)

- Stock prices began to drop. At Buffett's direction, Berkshire borrowed money

by issuing notes at 8%.

 

1974: (44 years old)

- Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began

to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities

and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett

and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation.

 

1977: (47 years old)

- Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million.

Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused

considerable emotional distress for Buffett

 

1978: (48 years old)

- Susan introduced Warren to Astrid Menks, who eventually moved in with him.

 

1986: (56 years old)

- Berkshire share price reached $3,000.

 

1987: (57 years old)

- In the aftermath of the stock market crash of October 19, 1987, Berkshire

lost 25% of its value, dropping from $4,230 per share to around $3,170.

 

1989: (59 years old)

- Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose

with it to $3.8 billion.

 

1997: (67 years old)

- Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at

about $6 per ounce. In 2006, he disclosed having sold the precious metal.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

 

http://www.fatpitchfinancials.com/344/notes-on-charlie-rose-shows-warren-buffett-the-man/

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Portugal

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Jorge,

 

I like the way you introduce the navamsa playing a key energetic role

in the lives of these two men. The navamsa also would bring in

the partnership aspect too.

 

And also curiously, the almost in sign part, I've noticed too in my

chart. Who knows, maybe it means the lessons of Virgo were pretty

much learned...

 

Aloha,

 

SallyOn 8/8/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Sally,

 

Regarding Bill Gates, I agree when you call

Venus a strong fourth lord, as its 39% old age weakness is counterbalanced by

the fact of being placed in its own MT

sign.

 

Regarding the apparent extreme weakness of

natal Venus in the case of Warren Buffet, we should not forget also that it is

almost entering its own MT

sign, it is well placed in H3, and it has a strong disp

ositor.

 

If you look to the navamsas of Bill Gates

and Warren Buffet, both have a fixed lagna, and their MBP in rasi, Venus, is placed

in H11 of navamsa, in signs ruled by Mercury, which is strong and rules H3 in

both rectified charts.

 

In case of Bill Gates, the rising navamsa

is Leo, bringing the second house matters of wealth and family to the fore.

 

In case of Warren Buffet, the rising

navamsa is Scorpio, bringing the fifth house matters of sp

eculative gains from investments

to the fore.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sally

Spencer

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 11:50

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

Jorge,

 

Bill Gate's chart has the strong fourth lord aspected by the eighth lord

by just over one degree, unafflicted. It shows assets from other's money,

easy gains!! Venus has been in the twelfth house of charities in

transit. He's in a Mercury period, very strong, aspected closely by Ketu which

would be a signifier for charities..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

On 8/8/06, Jorge Angelino <

jorge.angelino

wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Sally,

 

To improve the world,

proper education is a must.

 

It is nice to see how

these two Cancer lagnas are mothering all around…

 

They are a good example

for all of us.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Sally Spencer

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 10:22

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

Hello Jorge,

 

The video worked for me this time.

 

I had just seen a show on the educational good that the Gates' were doing and

didn't realize Buffet contributed to this. Education in America is taking

a turn for the better because of this work and others like it..

 

Sally

 

--The best news on Oprah today.

 

Bill Gates spent 1 billion dollars towards schools that succeed. No

books, just computers, and children seem to love it. Plus one of the

school systems created had much smaller class sizes and much better individual

attention. Classrooms were broken into smaller rooms with less

students and of course then more teachers required.

 

Kipp schools turning around the expectations and enjoyment, and safety in

schools.

They teach- work hard, be nice.

 

The children go to school from 7-5Pm and 1/2 sat and mandatory summer

school.

 

They learn by rhyme, repetition and rhythm. The teachers are available

24/7. They invite the children in their homes and parents become

partners.

 

It was very inspiring.

 

http://www.kipp.org/

 

Also some Sacramento schools were models too.

Also first high school in prison.

 

 

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge

Angelino < jorge.angelino wrote:

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

Before seeing the video,

we have to install in our computers Google Video Player.

 

Here is another

interesting video with Bill and Melinda Gates:

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=515260011274566220

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha

 

 

 

Sent:

terça-feira,

8 de Agosto de 2006 09:27

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks. But it is not working at the moment.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

Sent:

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 12:13 PM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thank you. I thought may

be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

Sent:

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thanks. And what will be his

rising sign?

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the

ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

Sent:

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thanks again for your

input.

 

In your opinion, and with

all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his

rectified MEP1?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not

prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative

investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal

promise.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

Sent:

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

I respect your opinion as

always.

 

But as my hability to

predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an

exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many

times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping.

This previous research helps a lot.

 

In this case, the only

retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same

longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about

retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they

influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

Partial aspects are also

taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence

of the event.

 

But this does not belong

to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[ SAMVA

] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the

6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of

seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we

were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such

events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on

this.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

Sent:

Sunday, August

06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

Subject:

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thank you for your

comments.

 

I understand all your

points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it

would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was

provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested

list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good

learning exercise anyway.

 

But as I think that this

is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

1)

A debilitated

Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5

and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own

MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had

mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

Regarding the debilitated

and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth,

Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to

live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car,

though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

2)

The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

3)

Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

I understand that only a valid birth certificate can

remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the

dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart.

 

It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some

trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[ SAMVA

] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A debilitated

Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Similar is the

situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence

of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

When time of

birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the

events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use rectification techniques other than SA,

as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

To:

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

Sent:

Saturday, August

05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

Subject:

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

This is the rectified chart

of:

 

Warren

Buffett

Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13

AM +06:00 CST

Omaha, NE:USA Longitude:

95W56 Latitude: 41N16

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current

Period: MA/RA/KE

 

Planet Deg

Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc 15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

Sun 13:23

Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

Moon 06:14

Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

Mars 08:18

Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra

Merc 10:09

Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

Jupt 20:40

Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

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-- Sally Spencer, Jyotish KovidEnlightened Living ServicesA Gentle Journey to Deep Healing www.Devi3.byregion.net

sally234 I facilitate deep self healing gently and painlessly in grounded soul dimensional work.By phone or in person. Vedic

Astrology is a cocreative sacred science used to strengthen and

propitiate weak and afflicting planetary energies. Tropical Astrology reports; timelines, natal.Feel free to contact me for questions, comments or an appointment. I'd love to hear from you.To view archives of my Light Waves Newsletter and get the list emails join:

www.EnlightenedLiving/ " If

I could reach up and hold a star for every time you've made me smile,

the entire evening sky would be in the palm of my hand. " -Unknown

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheri,

 

Thanks. And in looking at Gate's chart, how interesting

Jupiter is on the second mep. So while he has great wealth, he

either struggled at some points or as we know, suffered litigation etc.

 

SallyOn 8/8/06, Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote:

 

Hi Sally, In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very

stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his children for

a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very

concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to

charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and

comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more

generous now to his children, and extremely generous in charitable

giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that

definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates

has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious

homes. Sheri Powers Sally Spencer <sally234

> wrote: Hi Jorge and members,

I

checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house

than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure,

here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a

weak fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how

else do we account for discrepancies like that in charts of

" successful " people. Everyone has something they are working

through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill..Aloha, SallyThe video was not currently working..In

an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good

corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his

good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and

did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to

create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits

me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but

it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a

driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder. On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <

jorge.angelino > wrote:

My dear Professor,

Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

Best wishes,

Jorge

SAMVA [

SAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius.

Best wishes,

-

 

Jorge Angelino To:

SAMVA

Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

Subject:

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

My dear Professor,

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

Best wishes,

Jorge

SAMVA [

SAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08

SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported.

Best wishes,

-

Jorge Angelino To:

SAMVA

Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

Subject:

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

My dear Professor,

Thanks again for your input.

In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1?

Thanks in advance.

Best wishes,

Jorge

SAMVA [

SAMVA ] On Behalf Of

sihaSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

Hello my dear Jorge,

The

proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his

professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As

already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise.

Best wishes,

-

 

Jorge Angelino To:

SAMVA

Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

Subject:

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

My dear Professor,

I

respect your opinion as always.

But

as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the

practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the

rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my

brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a

lot.

In

this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT

sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you

know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and

I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a

different way.

Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event.

But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

Best wishes, Jorge

SAMVA [sAMVA@

] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

Hello my dear Jorge,

Besides

the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in

the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the

rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we

were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted

such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do

satisfactory on this.

Best wishes,

-

 

Jorge Angelino To:

SAMVA

Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

Subject:

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

My dear Professor,

Thank you for your comments.

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for

an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong.

In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of

Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a

deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise

anyway.

But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

1)

A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House

5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4:

Despite

his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal

lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he

bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

2)

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a

person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing

MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some

list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he

also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving

him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3)

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under

the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability)

placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to

spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

I

understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of

our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and

TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart.

It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

Best wishes, Jorge

SAMVA [

SAMVA

] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the

wealthiest persons of the world.

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under

the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life.

Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me.

Best wishes,

-

 

Jorge Angelino To:

SAMVA

Saturday, August

05, 2006 6:33 PM Subject:

Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members,

This is the rectified chart of:

Warren Buffett

Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

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Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

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Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke

Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma

True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM

Tithi: Shukla Saptami Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

Dagha Rashis: Can Sag

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Some of the events/facts used in the rectification: " Much

success can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist

the temptation to constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

....[Message clipped] -- Sally Spencer, Jyotish KovidEnlightened Living Services

A Gentle Journey to Deep Healing www.Devi3.byregion.net

sally234I facilitate deep self healing gently and painlessly in grounded soul dimensional work.By phone or in

person. Vedic

Astrology is a cocreative sacred science used to strengthen and

propitiate weak and afflicting planetary energies. Tropical Astrology reports; timelines, natal.Feel free to contact me for questions, comments or an appointment. I'd love to hear from you.To view archives of my Light Waves Newsletter and get the list emails join: www.EnlightenedLiving/ " If

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the entire evening sky would be in the palm of my hand. " -Unknown Messenger with Voice.

Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

 

 

-- Sally Spencer, Jyotish KovidEnlightened Living ServicesA Gentle Journey to Deep Healing www.Devi3.byregion.net

sally234 I facilitate deep self healing gently and painlessly in grounded soul dimensional work.By phone or in person. Vedic

Astrology is a cocreative sacred science used to strengthen and

propitiate weak and afflicting planetary energies. Tropical Astrology reports; timelines, natal.Feel free to contact me for questions, comments or an appointment. I'd love to hear from you.To view archives of my Light Waves Newsletter and get the list emails join:

www.EnlightenedLiving/ " If

I could reach up and hold a star for every time you've made me smile,

the entire evening sky would be in the palm of my hand. " -Unknown

[Guest guest]

Dear

Sheri,

 

While watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet

it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about his

possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance.

 

" Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie

Munger was going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue

with him because I didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble.

So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was

losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across

the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do

something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading

the paper. From across the room I said, " Charlie, should we buy Microsoft

at $26? " and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and

said again, " Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26? " and

again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is

so I go right next to him and say, " Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft

at $26? " and he says to me, " For the third time, YES. "

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri

Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 16:51

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sally,

 

 

In reading Warren

Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing

to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he

was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to

charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He

has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children,

and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was

'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing

success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived

in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers

 

Sally Spencer

<sally234 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hi

Jorge and members,

 

I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than

just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a

quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth

house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account

for discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people.

Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be

some grist for the mill..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

The video was not currently working..

 

 

In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate

governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a

throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased.

''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P.

Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and

managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands

revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder.

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

 

 

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

 

 

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has

been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My

dear Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis

taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as

and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My

dear Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

 

 

 

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with

Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with

investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all,

does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My

dear Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

I

respect your opinion as always.

 

 

 

 

 

But as

my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of

doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification

process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I

am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn

is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my

opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times

that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

 

 

 

 

Partial

aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to

understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

 

 

 

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past,

could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart

does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My

dear Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

 

 

 

 

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's

life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work,

which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

 

 

 

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is

unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental

and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

 

 

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car,

though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

 

 

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

 

 

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

 

 

 

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

 

 

 

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use

rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List

Members,

 

 

 

 

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

 

 

 

 

Warren

Buffett

 

 

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

 

 

Omaha, NE:USA

Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

 

 

 

 

Lahiri

Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

Deg Sign Speed SA

Nakshatra Lord

 

 

================================================

 

 

Asc

15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

 

 

Sun

13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

 

 

Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

 

 

Mars

08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra

 

 

Merc

10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST

Hasta Mo

 

 

Jupt

20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

 

 

Ven

29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra

Ma

 

 

Sat R 12:27

Sag -00:01:00 FM

Mula Ke

 

 

Rahu

02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini

Ke

 

 

Ketu

02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra

Ma

 

 

 

 

 

True Node

365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

 

 

Day: Saturday

Sunrise: 5:47 AM

 

 

Tithi: Shukla

Saptami

 

 

Yoga Pt: 22:57

Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

 

 

Dagha Rashis: Can

Sag

 

 

 

 

 

Rashi Chart

 

 

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Some of the

events/facts used in the rectification:

 

 

 

 

 

" Much success

can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sally,

 

It is very interesting to see the DCs

closely.

 

They help us to understand properly the different

areas in the chart.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sally

Spencer

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 21:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

Hello Jorge,

 

I like the way you introduce the navamsa playing a key energetic role in the

lives of these two men. The navamsa also would bring in the partnership

aspect too.

 

And also curiously, the almost in sign part, I've noticed too in my

chart. Who knows, maybe it means the lessons of Virgo were pretty much

learned...

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

On 8/8/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt>

wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Sally,

 

Regarding Bill Gates, I

agree when you call Venus a strong fourth lord, as its 39% old age weakness is

counterbalanced by the fact of being placed in its own MT sign.

 

Regarding the apparent

extreme weakness of natal Venus in the case of Warren Buffet, we should not

forget also that it is almost entering its own MT sign, it is well placed in

H3, and it has a strong disp ositor.

 

If you look to the

navamsas of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, both have a fixed lagna, and their

MBP in rasi, Venus, is placed in H11 of navamsa, in signs ruled by Mercury,

which is strong and rules H3 in both rectified charts.

 

In case of Bill Gates,

the rising navamsa is Leo, bringing the second house matters of wealth and

family to the fore.

 

In case of Warren Buffet,

the rising navamsa is Scorpio, bringing the fifth house matters of sp eculative

gains from investments to the fore.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Sally Spencer

 

 

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 11:50

SAMVA

Re:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge,

 

Bill Gate's chart has the strong fourth lord aspected by the eighth lord

by just over one degree, unafflicted. It shows assets from other's money,

easy gains!! Venus has been in the twelfth house of charities in

transit. He's in a Mercury period, very strong, aspected closely by Ketu which

would be a signifier for charities..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

On 8/8/06, Jorge

Angelino < jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Sally,

 

To improve the world,

proper education is a must.

 

It is nice to see how

these two Cancer lagnas are mothering all around…

 

They are a good example

for all of us.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of Sally Spencer

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 10:22

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

Hello Jorge,

 

The video worked for me this time.

 

I had just seen a show on the educational good that the Gates' were doing and

didn't realize Buffet contributed to this. Education in America is taking

a turn for the better because of this work and others like it..

 

Sally

 

--The best news on Oprah today.

 

Bill Gates spent 1 billion dollars towards schools that succeed. No books,

just computers, and children seem to love it. Plus one of the school

systems created had much smaller class sizes and much better individual

attention. Classrooms were broken into smaller rooms with less

students and of course then more teachers required.

 

Kipp schools turning around the expectations and enjoyment, and safety in

schools.

They teach- work hard, be nice.

 

The children go to school from 7-5Pm and 1/2 sat and mandatory summer

school.

 

They learn by rhyme, repetition and rhythm. The teachers are available

24/7. They invite the children in their homes and parents become

partners.

 

It was very inspiring.

 

http://www.kipp.org/

 

Also some Sacramento schools were models too.

Also first high school in prison.

 

 

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge

Angelino < jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

Before seeing the video,

we have to install in our computers Google Video Player.

 

Here is another

interesting video with Bill and Melinda Gates:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=515260011274566220

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

 

 

 

Sent:

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 09:27

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks. But it is not working at the moment.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 12:13 PM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thank you. I thought may be

you would like to see himself telling his story

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thanks. And what will be

his rising sign?

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the

ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thanks again for your

input.

 

In your opinion, and with

all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his

rectified MEP1?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not

prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative

investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

I respect your opinion as

always.

 

But as my hability to

predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an

exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many

times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping.

This previous research helps a lot.

 

In this case, the only

retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same

longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about

retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they

influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

Partial aspects are also

taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence

of the event.

 

But this does not belong

to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[ SAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the

6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of

seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we

were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such

events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on

this.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

Thank you for your

comments.

 

I understand all your

points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it

would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was

provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested

list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good

learning exercise anyway.

 

But as I think that this is

his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

1)

A debilitated

Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and

unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT

sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had

mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

Regarding the debilitated

and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth,

Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to

live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car,

though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

I understand that only a valid birth certificate can

remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the

dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart.

 

It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some

trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[ SAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A debilitated

Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The debilitated

fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of

the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Similar is the

situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence

of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

When time of

birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the

events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use rectification techniques other than SA,

as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

This is the rectified chart

of:

 

Warren

Buffett

Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13

AM +06:00 CST

Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56

Latitude: 41N16

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53

Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

Planet Deg

Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

================================================

Asc 15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

Sun 13:23

Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

Moon 06:14

Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

Mars 08:18

Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra

Merc 10:09

Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

Jupt 20:40

Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

Ven 29:07

Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma

Sat R 12:27 Sag

-00:01:00 FM Mula Ke

Rahu 02:00

Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke

Ketu 02:00

Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma

 

True Node 365.25 Day

Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

Day: Saturday Sunrise:

5:47 AM

Tithi: Shukla Saptami

Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju

AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

Dagha Rashis: Can Sag

 

Rashi Chart

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Hi Sally, It is interesting what the planets will do. Buffett had strange eating habits. He drinks 15 cherry cokes a day, loves the stuff. He mainly eats cheeseburgers, ham sandwiches and vanilla ice cream, though his friends have tried to broaden his culinary tastes. He also excessively salts his food. I wonder if the craving for salt has something to do with debillitated Moon, and all of the cokes to do with debillitated Venus. Have you seen that before? Sheri PowersSally Spencer <sally234 wrote: Hi Sheri, Thanks. And in looking at Gate's chart, how interesting Jupiter is on the second mep. So while he has great wealth, he either struggled at some points or as we know, suffered litigation etc. Sally On 8/8/06, Sheri Powers <mermaidslace > wrote: Hi Sally, In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He has obviously changed over the years,

being more generous now to his children, and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers Sally Spencer <sally234 > wrote: Hi Jorge and members, I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account for

discrepancies like that in charts of "successful" people. Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill..Aloha, SallyThe video was not currently working..In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder. On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino < jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt

> wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276 Best wishes, Jorge -----Original

Message----- SAMVA [ SAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks. And what will be his rising sign? Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [ SAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks again for your input. In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1? Thanks in

advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [ SAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, I respect your opinion as always. But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot. In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign.

Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way. Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event. But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA@ ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear

Jorge, Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points: 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated,

but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3)

Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre. I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [ SAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a

person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart of: Warren Buffett Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST

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dimensional work.By phone or in person. Vedic Astrology is a cocreative sacred science used to strengthen and propitiate weak and afflicting planetary energies. Tropical Astrology reports; timelines, natal.Feel free to contact me for questions, comments or an appointment. I'd love to hear from you.To view archives of my Light Waves Newsletter and get the list emails join: www.EnlightenedLiving/"If I could reach up and hold a star for every time you've made me smile, the entire evening sky would be in the palm of my hand." -Unknown Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. -- Sally Spencer, Jyotish KovidEnlightened Living ServicesA Gentle Journey to Deep Healing www.Devi3.byregion.net sally234 (AT) earthlink (DOT) netI facilitate deep self healing gently and painlessly in grounded soul dimensional work.By phone or in person. Vedic Astrology is a cocreative sacred science used to strengthen and propitiate weak and afflicting planetary energies. Tropical Astrology reports; timelines, natal.Feel free to contact me for questions, comments or an

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Dear Jorge, The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, While watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance. "Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't

want to bring up the issue with him because I didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading the paper. From across the room I said, "Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at $26?" and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and said again, "Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26?" and again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I go right next to him and say, "Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at $26?" and he says to me, "For the third time, YES." http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersterça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 16:51SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hi Sally, In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on

home and comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children, and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers Sally Spencer <sally234 > wrote: Hi Jorge and members,I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth

house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account for discrepancies like that in charts of "successful" people. Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill..Aloha, SallyThe video was not currently working..In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder. On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt > wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276 Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius. Best wishes, V K

Choudhry - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks. And what will be his rising sign? Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks again for your input. In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise. Best

wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, I respect your opinion as always. But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot. In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way. Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event. But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting. Best

wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points: 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre. I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak

fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth

house. When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart of: Warren Buffett Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM Tithi: Shukla Saptami Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me Dagha Rashis: Can Sag Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 5 * *

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Dear

Sheri,

 

If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11

and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is afflicted, one can develop a hearing

problem.

While watching the video, it seems he says

that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions that he works together with his

partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear and he can see.  It seems also that

his left ear has a listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be

so kind to confirm that to me? Thanks in advance.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri

Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 23:01

SAMVA

RE: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge,

 

 

The book did not mention

a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old,

so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are

chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri Powers

 

Jorge Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Sheri,

 

 

 

 

 

While

watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet

it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about

his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

" Earlier this year I

started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't

want to bring up the issue with him because I didn't want him to get defensive

and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should

do to see if Charlie was losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a

normal voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he

couldn't, I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's

office and he was reading the paper. From across the room I said,

" Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at $26? " and he didn't say anything.

I walked halfway across the room and said again, " Charlie, what do you

think about Microsoft at $26? " and again, nothing from him. So now I'm

worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I go right next to him and say,

" Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at $26? " and he says to me,

" For the third time, YES. "

 

 

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 16:51

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sally,

 

 

 

 

In reading Warren

Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing

to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he

was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to

charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He

has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children,

and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was

'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing

success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived

in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers

 

Sally Spencer

<sally234 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jorge and members,

 

I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than

just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a

quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth

house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account

for discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people.

Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be

some grist for the mill..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

The video was not currently working..

 

 

In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate

governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a

throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased.

''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P.

Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors

and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett

stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder.

 

 

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has

been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis

taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as

and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with

Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with

investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all,

does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I

respect your opinion as always.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as

my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of

doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification

process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I

am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn

is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my

opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times

that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Partial

aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to

understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past,

could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart

does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's

life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work,

which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is

unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental

and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

 

 

 

 

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. He used to drive a

2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

 

 

 

 

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

 

 

 

 

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use

rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren

Buffett

 

 

 

 

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

 

 

 

 

Omaha, NE:USA

Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53

Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Planet Deg

Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

 

 

 

 

================================================

 

 

 

 

Asc

15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

 

 

 

 

Sun

13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

 

 

 

 

Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

 

 

 

 

Mars

08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra

 

 

 

 

Merc

10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST

Hasta Mo

 

 

 

 

Jupt

20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

 

 

 

 

Ven

29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra

Ma

 

 

 

 

Sat R 12:27

Sag -00:01:00 FM

Mula Ke

 

 

 

 

Rahu

02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini

Ke

 

 

 

 

Ketu

02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra

Ma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True Node

365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

 

 

 

 

Day: Saturday

Sunrise: 5:47 AM

 

 

 

 

Tithi: Shukla

Saptami

 

 

 

 

Yoga Pt: 22:57

Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

 

 

 

 

Dagha Rashis: Can

Sag

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rashi Chart

 

 

 

 

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Some of the

events/facts used in the rectification:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Much success

can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jorge,

 

I'll bet a dollar that if he does have a hearing problem, it's his left ear

given by the weakness of the LO6, Moon (Aq chart).

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

-

" Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

<SAMVA >

Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:27 PM

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

Dear Sheri,

 

 

 

If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP

is afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem.

 

While watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he

mentions that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because

Charlie can ear and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a

listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to

confirm that to me? Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 23:01

SAMVA

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

Dear Jorge,

 

The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years

ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed a

problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri

Powers

 

Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote:

 

Dear Sheri,

 

 

 

While watching HYPERLINK

" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet " ht\

tp://video.-google.com/-videoplay?-docid=-620891087-6057109785 & q=warren+buffet

it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about

his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

" Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was

going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue with him because I

didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my

doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was losing his

hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the room

and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do something

about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading the

paper. From across the room I said, " Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at

$26? " and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and said

again, " Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26? " and again,

nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I

go right next to him and say, " Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at

$26? " and he says to me, " For the third time, YES. "

 

HYPERLINK

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Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 16:51

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Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

Hi Sally,

 

In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years.

He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as

young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only

paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and

comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now

to his children, and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true

nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing

success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in

luxurious homes. Sheri Powers

 

Sally Spencer <sally234 (AT) gmail (DOT) -com> wrote:

 

Hi Jorge and members,

 

I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house

than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's

a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth

house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account for

discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people. Everyone has

something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist for

the mill..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

The video was not currently working..

 

 

In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate

governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a

throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well

pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company

Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our

investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt,

Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate

empire-builder.

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK

" jorge.angelino " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt > wrote:

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

 

 

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\nhttp://video.-google.com/-videoplay?-docid=6701318343-299922276

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

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terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

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Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

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Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

Thanks. And what will be his rising sign?

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

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Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for

monitoring future developments as and when reported.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

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Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

Thanks again for your input.

 

 

 

In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please

tell us what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

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domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11

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Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his

professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As

already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

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Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

I respect your opinion as always.

 

 

 

But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the

practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the

rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do

the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

 

 

In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT

sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know

already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have

seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

 

 

Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us

to understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

 

 

But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in

the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified

chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the

incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart?

The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \nJorge Angelino

 

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Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

My dear Professor,

 

 

 

Thank you for your comments.

 

 

 

I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren

Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper

rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

 

 

But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on

your points:

 

 

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House

5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its

own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and

emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

 

Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth,

Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues

to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500.

He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a

Cadillac DTS.

 

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of

a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very

strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2

has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he

resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like

Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

 

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth

house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial

stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so

willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

 

 

I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of

our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT

influence can throw some light on his rectified chart.

 

 

 

It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding

his true TOB.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived

mother.

 

 

 

The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a

person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house

under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must

support the events of life.

 

 

 

Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart

rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

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Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

 

 

This is the rectified chart of:

 

 

 

Warren Buffett

 

Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

 

Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

 

 

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

 

 

Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

 

============-=========-=========-=========-=========

 

Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa

 

Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

 

Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

 

Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra

 

Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

 

Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

 

Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma

 

Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke

 

Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke

 

Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma

 

 

 

True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

 

Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM

 

Tithi: Shukla Saptami

 

Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

 

Dagha Rashis: Can Sag

 

 

 

Rashi Chart

 

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** 5 * * 3 **

 

*6 * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * MA 08:18 * *

 

* SU 13:23* JU 20:40* *

 

*ME 10:09 * * * * *

 

*VE 29:07 * 4 AS 15:25 * 2 *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

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*7 KE 02:00 * 1 RA 02:00 *

 

** * * **

 

*8 * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

*MO 06:14 * 10 * 12 *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * SAR12:27 * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

** 9 * * 11 **

 

************-*********-*********-*********-*********-*******

 

 

 

Navamsha

 

************-*********-*********-*********-*********-*******

 

** 9 * * 7 **

 

*10* * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* MA * KE * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * 8 AS * 6 VE *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

** * * SU **

 

*11 * 5 MO *

 

** * * **

 

*12* * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

* * 2 * 4 SAR *

 

* * * * * *

 

* ME * * * *

 

* * JU * * * *

 

* * RA * * * *

 

* * * * * *

 

** 1 * * 3 **

 

************-*********-*********-*********-*********-*******

 

 

 

 

 

Some of the events/facts used in the rectification:

 

 

 

" Much success can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist

the temptation to constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

....

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jorge and List,

 

Please ignore my last email - I read XI as IX ruling left ear. Thanks

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

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" Vyas Munidas " <muni>

<SAMVA >

Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:46 PM

Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

> Dear Jorge,

>

> I'll bet a dollar that if he does have a hearing problem, it's his left

> ear

> given by the weakness of the LO6, Moon (Aq chart).

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

>

> -

> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino

> <SAMVA >

> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:27 PM

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

> Dear Sheri,

>

>

>

> If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius

> MEP

> is afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem.

>

> While watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning,

> he

> mentions that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because

> Charlie can ear and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a

> listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to

> confirm that to me? Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> Sheri Powers

> terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 23:01

> SAMVA

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge,

>

> The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years

> ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed a

> problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss?

> Sheri

> Powers

>

> Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote:

>

> Dear Sheri,

>

>

>

> While watching HYPERLINK

>

" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet " ht\

tp://video.-google.com/-videoplay?-docid=-620891087-6057109785 & q=warren+buffet

> it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint

> about

> his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> " Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was

> going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue with him because I

> didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to

> my

> doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was losing his

> hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the

> room

> and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do something

> about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading the

> paper. From across the room I said, " Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at

> $26? " and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and

> said

> again, " Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26? " and again,

> nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so

> I

> go right next to him and say, " Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at

> $26? " and he says to me, " For the third time, YES. "

>

> HYPERLINK

>

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>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

 

> SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com [sAMVA@-.-com] On Behalf Of

> Sheri Powers

> terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 16:51

> SAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

> Hi Sally,

>

> In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years.

> He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle

> as

> young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave

> only

> paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and

> comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more generous

> now

> to his children, and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his

> true

> nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his

> investing

> success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived

> in

> luxurious homes. Sheri Powers

>

> Sally Spencer <sally234 (AT) gmail (DOT) -com> wrote:

>

> Hi Jorge and members,

>

> I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house

> than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure,

> here's

> a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak

> fourth

> house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account

> for

> discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people. Everyone has

> something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist

> for

> the mill..

>

> Aloha,

>

> Sally

>

> The video was not currently working..

>

>

> In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good

> corporate

> governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a

> throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well

> pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the

> company

> Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with

> our

> investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be

> blunt,

> Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate

> empire-builder.

>

> On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK

> " jorge.angelino " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt > wrote:

>

> My dear Professor,

>

>

>

> Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his

> story

>

>

>

> HYPERLINK " http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276 "

> \nhttp://video.-google.com/-videoplay?-docid=6701318343-299922276

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

> [HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com]

> On Behalf Of HYPERLINK " siha "

> \nsiha

>

>

>

> terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

>

>

>

> The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

> HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \nJorge Angelino

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

>

> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

>

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

> My dear Professor,

>

>

>

> Thanks. And what will be his rising sign?

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

> [HYPERLINK " SAMVA@ " \nSAMVA@HYPERLINK

> " http:/// " .-com] On Behalf Of HYPERLINK

> " siha " \nsiha

> segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08

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> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

>

>

>

> I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for

> monitoring future developments as and when reported.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

> HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \nJorge Angelino

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

>

> Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

>

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

> My dear Professor,

>

>

>

> Thanks again for your input.

>

>

>

> In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you

> please

> tell us what will be his rectified MEP1?

>

>

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

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> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

Hello my dear Jorge,

>

>

>

> The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his

> professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As

> already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

> HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \nJorge Angelino

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

>

> Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

>

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

> My dear Professor,

>

>

>

> I respect your opinion as always.

>

>

>

> But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the

> practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the

> rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain

> do

> the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

>

>

>

> In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT

> sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know

> already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have

> seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

>

>

>

> Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us

> to understand the ocurrence of the event.

>

>

>

> But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

 

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> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

Hello my dear Jorge,

>

>

>

> Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed

> in

> the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified

> chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the

> incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the

> chart?

> The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

> HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \nJorge Angelino

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

>

> Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

>

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

> My dear Professor,

>

>

>

> Thank you for your comments.

>

>

>

> I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

> interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In

> that

> case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren

> Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper

> rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

>

>

>

> But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on

> your points:

>

>

>

> 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

> lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in

> House

> 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in

> its

> own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and

> emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

>

> Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth,

> Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues

> to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500.

> He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a

> Cadillac DTS.

>

> 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

> of

> a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very

> strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As

> H2

> has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he

> resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like

> Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

> entrepreneurship.

>

> 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

> house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth

> house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial

> stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so

> willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

>

>

>

> I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of

> our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT

> influence can throw some light on his rectified chart.

>

>

>

> It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding

> his true TOB.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

 

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> sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14

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> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

>

>

>

> A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived

> mother.

>

>

>

> The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a

> person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

>

>

>

> Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house

> under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

>

>

>

> When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart

> must

> support the events of life.

>

>

>

> Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart

> rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

> HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino " \nJorge Angelino

>

> HYPERLINK " SAMVA " \nSAMVA (AT) (DOT) -com

>

> Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

>

> Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear List Members,

>

>

>

> This is the rectified chart of:

>

>

>

> Warren Buffett

>

> Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

>

> Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

>

>

>

> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

>

>

>

> Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

>

> ============-=========-=========-=========-=========

>

> Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa

>

> Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

>

> Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

>

> Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra

>

> Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

>

> Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

>

> Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma

>

> Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke

>

> Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke

>

> Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma

>

>

>

> True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

>

> Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM

>

> Tithi: Shukla Saptami

>

> Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

>

> Dagha Rashis: Can Sag

>

>

>

> Rashi Chart

>

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>

> Navamsha

>

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>

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>

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>

> ** 1 * * 3 **

>

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>

>

>

>

>

> Some of the events/facts used in the rectification:

>

>

>

> " Much success can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot

> resist

> the temptation to constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

>

> ...

>

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[Guest guest]

Sheri,

 

Debilitated Moon- Vata, fluid imbalance. Venus imbalance in sweets. Makes sense.

 

Aloha,

 

SallyOn 8/8/06, Sheri Powers <mermaidslace

 

> wrote:

Hi Sally, It is interesting what the planets will

do. Buffett had strange eating habits. He drinks 15 cherry

cokes a day, loves the stuff. He mainly eats cheeseburgers, ham

sandwiches and vanilla ice cream, though his friends have tried to

broaden his culinary tastes. He also excessively salts his

food. I wonder if the craving for salt has something to do with

debillitated Moon, and all of the cokes to do with debillitated

Venus. Have you seen that before? Sheri PowersSally Spencer <

sally234 wrote:

Hi Sheri, Thanks.

And in looking at Gate's chart, how interesting Jupiter is on the

second mep. So while he has great wealth, he either struggled at

some points or as we know, suffered litigation etc.

[Guest guest]

My dear Jorge,Gemini MEP can also be added to the list.Best Wishes,ArunJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem. While watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to confirm that to me? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 23:01 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear Jorge,

The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri Powers Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: Dear Sheri, While watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance. "Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue with him because I didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him

what I should do to see if Charlie was losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading the paper. From across the room I said, "Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at $26?" and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and said again, "Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26?" and again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I go right next to him and say, "Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at $26?" and he says to me, "For the third time, YES." http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 16:51 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hi Sally, In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also

gave only paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children, and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers Sally Spencer <sally234 > wrote: Hi Jorge and members, I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than just big money maker, how about

character, not knowing for sure, here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account for discrepancies like that in charts of "successful" people. Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill.. Aloha, Sally The video was not currently working.. In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate

empire-builder. On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt > wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you. I thought may be you would like to

see himself telling his story http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276 Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, The ascending sign has been

taken as Aquarius. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks. And what will be his rising sign? Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de

2006 09:08 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported. Best wishes,

- Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks again for your input. In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sent:

Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, I respect your opinion as always. But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot. In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way. Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event. But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this.

Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sent:

Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points: 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to

live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this

is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre. I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth

lord cannot give long lived mother. The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart

rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me. Best wishes, -

Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart of: Warren Buffett Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM Tithi: Shukla Saptami Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me Dagha Rashis: Can Sag Rashi Chart ******************************************************* ** 5 * * 3 ** *6 * *

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My dear Mr. Angelino,Speaking of Charlie Munger...His DOB is January 1, 1924 in Omaha, Nebraska USA.On that day the planets Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn can all be 100% strong, along with Mars being close to fully strong in slight infancy.Libra Asc. on that day gives us a fabulous chart.Best Wishes,ArunJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem. While watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to confirm that to me? Thanks

in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 23:01 SAMVA RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear Jorge, The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri Powers Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: Dear Sheri, While watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance. "Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue with him because I didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading the paper. From across the room I said, "Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at $26?" and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and said again, "Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26?" and again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I go right next to him and say, "Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at $26?" and he says to me, "For the third time,

YES." http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 16:51 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hi Sally, In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy

in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children, and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers Sally Spencer <sally234 > wrote: Hi Jorge and members, I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account for discrepancies like that in charts of "successful" people. Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill.. Aloha, Sally The video was not currently working.. In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits

me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder. On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt > wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276 Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks. And what will be his rising sign? Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43

AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks again for your input. In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise.

Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, I respect your opinion as always. But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am

sleeping. This previous research helps a lot. In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way. Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event. But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this.

Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the

interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points: 1)

A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4:

Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the

thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth

house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre. I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14 SAMVA Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart of: Warren

Buffett Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16 Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

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Dear Jorge, Hi- sorry I can't comfirm if Buffett wears a hearing aid. From your excerpt from the video and your observation, it sounds like he does. Given his age, could a relatively wide affliction to the 3rd or 11th (or Gemini) cause it? I have another event. On Aug 16, 1991, Buffett had to step in and take over as chairman of Salomon Brothers trading firm, as they were investigated for phony trading of US Treasury securities. He did not want to do this, but was asked by his friends at the firm as well as to protect his investment (700 million) and those of his Berkshire/Hathaway stockholders. He was unhappy away from his home base of Omaha, and reluctantly in the spotlight a lot. The approximate time line is- summer 1991- the scandal breaks. Aug 16, 1991-CEO Gotfreund resigns-Buffett reluctantly takes over as chairman and soon names Maughn as CEO.SEC Hearing-(I believe this

was all in New York City) Sept 4, 1991. Warren apologizes and is very modest, working very hard to win over the SEC. Investigation and possible prosecution would bankrupt the firm. Fall 1991- Buffett institutes major reforms and late 91 early 92, there are massive defections at the firm as bonuses were cut. In 1991, press was positive for Buffett(but not for the scandal), but then in early 92, especially Feb, Buffett is vilified in the press, and is very hurt by this. He doesn't sleep well and is very upset. Finally in May 1992, the SEC decides not to prosecute, but the firm must pay 290 million in fines. In June 1992, Buffett resigns as chairman and returns to Omaha. The events and dasas seem to fit both the Cancer and Aquarius charts, but I am novice and I would like to hear more experienced opinions- In Cancer, the period was Sun-Jup from Aug 1991 to May 1992 with Jupiter afflicting the 2nd house

of status. In Aquarius L1 Saturn is in the 12th and the period was Moon-Ven, turning to a more positive Moon-Ven-Jup in June 1992, (13 degrees Aquarius) or in April 1992 (18 degrees Aquaruius). During this timeline, Rahu/Ketu axis in Sagittarius/Gemini afflicted first Jupiter, then Saturn, then Mars, and was over one degree away from Mars by June 1992. Any observations appreciated-Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem. While watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to confirm that

to me? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersterça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 23:01SAMVA Subject: RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear Jorge, The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: Dear Sheri, While watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance. "Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue with him

because I didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading the paper. From across the room I said, "Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at $26?" and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and said again, "Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26?" and again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I go right next to him and say, "Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at $26?" and he says to me, "For the third time, YES." http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersterça-feira, 8 de

Agosto de 2006 16:51SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hi Sally, In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and

comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children, and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers Sally Spencer <sally234 > wrote: Hi Jorge and members,I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak

fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account for discrepancies like that in charts of "successful" people. Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill..Aloha, SallyThe video was not currently working..In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder. On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt > wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276 Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks. And what will be his rising sign? Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported.

Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks again for your

input. In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, I respect your opinion as always. But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot. In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and

you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way. Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event. But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with

a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points: 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the

world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2

(wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre. I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth

house. When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart

of: Warren Buffett Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16 Lahiri

Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord ================================================ Asc 15:25 Can

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Thanks Sally, and as mentioned earlier by you, Bill Gates did suffer through a big litigation problem and temporary severe loss of status because of that litigation. Have a good one- Sheri Sally Spencer <sally234 wrote: Sheri, Debilitated Moon- Vata, fluid imbalance. Venus imbalance in sweets. Makes sense.Aloha, Sally On 8/8/06, Sheri Powers <mermaidslace > wrote: Hi Sally, It is interesting what the planets will do. Buffett had strange eating habits. He drinks 15 cherry cokes a day, loves the stuff. He mainly eats cheeseburgers, ham sandwiches and vanilla ice cream, though his friends have tried to broaden his culinary tastes. He also excessively salts his food. I wonder if the craving for salt has something to do with debillitated Moon, and all of the cokes to do with debillitated Venus. Have you seen that before? Sheri Powers Sally Spencer < sally234 > wrote: Hi

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My dear

Arun,

 

You are right, as the 3rd sign

has similarities with the 3rd house. Thanks.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun

Rao

quarta-feira, 9 de Agosto de

2006 02:21

SAMVA

RE: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

My dear Jorge,

 

Gemini MEP can also be added to the list.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Arun

 

Jorge Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear

Sheri,

 

 

 

 

 

If L3

and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is

afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem.

 

 

While

watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions

that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear

and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a listening

apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to confirm that to me?

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 23:01

SAMVA

RE: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

The book did not mention

a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old,

so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are

chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri Powers

 

Jorge Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Sheri,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While

watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet

it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about

his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Earlier this year I

started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't

want to bring up the issue with him because I didn't want him to get defensive

and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should

do to see if Charlie was losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a

normal voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he

couldn't, I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's

office and he was reading the paper. From across the room I said,

" Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at $26? " and he didn't say

anything. I walked halfway across the room and said again, " Charlie, what

do you think about Microsoft at $26? " and again, nothing from him. So now

I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I go right next to him and

say, " Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at $26? " and he says to

me, " For the third time, YES. "

 

 

 

 

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 16:51

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sally,

 

 

 

 

 

 

In reading Warren

Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing

to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he

was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to

charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He

has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children,

and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was

'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing

success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived

in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers

 

Sally Spencer

<sally234 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jorge and members,

 

I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than

just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a

quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth

house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account

for discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people.

Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be

some grist for the mill..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

The video was not currently working..

 

 

In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate

governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a

throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased.

''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P.

Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors

and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett

stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder.

 

 

 

 

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

 

 

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello

dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has

been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis

taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as

and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with

Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with

investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all,

does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I

respect your opinion as always.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as

my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of

doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification

process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I

am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn

is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my

opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times

that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Partial

aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to

understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past,

could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart

does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's

life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work,

which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is

unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental

and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. He used to drive a

2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use

rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren

Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omaha, NE:USA

Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53

Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

Deg Sign Speed SA

Nakshatra Lord

 

 

 

 

 

 

================================================

 

 

 

 

 

 

Asc

15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun

13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

 

 

 

 

 

 

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365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

 

 

 

 

 

 

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events/facts used in the rectification:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear

Sheri,

 

Supposing the hearing problem is true, it

is very easily seen in the Cancer lagna:

 

1) Natal Sa simultaneously afflicts Saggitarius & Gemini MEPs, natal

Mercury, L3, and MEP3.

2) Jupiter becomes afflicted by being placed in H12, and having its MT/Placement House

afflicted by the MMP.

 

Thank you for sharing another important event of his life with

such a detail. Let us look briefly to it:

 

On Aug 16, 1991,

Buffett had to step in and take over as chairman of Salomon Brothers trading

firm. He

did not want to do this, but was asked by his friends at the firm as well as to

protect his investment (700 million) and those of his Berkshire/Hathaway

stockholders. He was unhappy away from his home base of Omaha,

and reluctantly in the spotlight a lot.

 

On July 26, 1991, he entered Su/Ju/Ju, so conflicts are seen.

On Aug 16, 1991, the transits were:

 

 

Transit Sun is afflicted by the

conjunction with transit Jupiter, and both are afflicted by natal Rahu. Natal

Jupiter starts to become afflicted by the transit Rahu/Ketu axis.

 

…but

then in early 92, especially Feb, Buffett is vilified in the press, and is

very hurt by this. He doesn't sleep well and is very upset. Rahu/Ketu axis became stationary over his MEP6/MEP12 from November

1991 till almost February 1992, afflicting all his even houses, and disturbing

his sleep by being exactly over MEP12. By the end of January, transit Sun was

exactly conjunct transit Saturn, and transit Saturn was also exactly afflicting

MEP7, MEP1, MEP9 and MEP4.

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers

quarta-feira, 9 de Agosto de

2006 06:37

SAMVA

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge,

 

 

Hi- sorry I can't

comfirm if Buffett wears a hearing aid. From your excerpt from the video

and your observation, it sounds like he does. Given his age, could a

relatively wide affliction to the 3rd or 11th (or Gemini) cause it?

 

 

I have another

event. On Aug 16, 1991, Buffett had to step in and take over as chairman

of Salomon Brothers trading firm, as they were investigated for phony trading

of US Treasury securities. He did not want to do this, but was asked by

his friends at the firm as well as to protect his investment (700 million) and

those of his Berkshire/Hathaway stockholders. He was unhappy away from his

home base of Omaha, and reluctantly in the spotlight a lot.

The approximate time line is-

 

 

summer 1991- the scandal

breaks.

 

 

Aug 16, 1991-CEO

Gotfreund resigns-Buffett reluctantly takes over as chairman and soon names

Maughn as CEO.

SEC Hearing-(I believe this was all in New York City) Sept 4, 1991.

Warren apologizes and is very modest, working very hard to win over the

SEC. Investigation and possible prosecution would bankrupt the firm.

 

 

Fall 1991- Buffett institutes

major reforms and late 91 early 92, there are massive defections at the firm as

bonuses were cut.

 

 

In 1991, press was

positive for Buffett(but not for the scandal), but then in early 92, especially

Feb, Buffett is vilified in the press, and is very hurt by this. He doesn't

sleep well and is very upset.

 

 

Finally in May 1992, the

SEC decides not to prosecute, but the firm must pay 290 million in fines.

 

 

In June 1992, Buffett

resigns as chairman and returns to Omaha. The events and dasas seem to

fit both the Cancer and Aquarius charts, but I am novice and I would like to

hear more experienced opinions- In Cancer, the period was Sun-Jup from Aug 1991

to May 1992 with Jupiter afflicting the 2nd house of status. In Aquarius

L1 Saturn is in the 12th and the period was Moon-Ven, turning to a more

positive Moon-Ven-Jup in June 1992, (13 degrees Aquarius) or in April 1992 (18

degrees Aquaruius). During this timeline, Rahu/Ketu axis in Sagittarius/Gemini

afflicted first Jupiter, then Saturn, then Mars, and was over one degree away

from Mars by June 1992. Any observations appreciated-Sheri Powers

Jorge

Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Sheri,

 

 

 

 

 

If L3

and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is

afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem.

 

 

While

watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions

that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear

and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a listening

apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to confirm that to me?

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 23:01

SAMVA

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

The book did not mention

a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old,

so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are

chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri Powers

 

Jorge

Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Sheri,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While

watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet

it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about his

possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Earlier this year I

started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't

want to bring up the issue with him because I didn't want him to get defensive and

stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should do to

see if Charlie was losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal

voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't,

I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he

was reading the paper. From across the room I said, " Charlie, should we

buy Microsoft at $26? " and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across

the room and said again, " Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at

$26? " and again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his

hearing loss is so I go right next to him and say, " Charlie, should we be

buying Microsoft at $26? " and he says to me, " For the third time,

YES. "

 

 

 

 

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 16:51

SAMVA

Re:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sally,

 

 

 

 

 

 

In reading Warren Buffett's

bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his

children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very

concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to charity

for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He has

obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children, and

extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'-

however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think

Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious

homes. Sheri Powers

 

Sally Spencer

<sally234 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jorge and members,

 

I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than

just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's

a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth

house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account

for discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people.

Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be

some grist for the mill..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

The video was not currently working..

 

 

In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate

governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a

throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire

is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted

to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in

mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a

driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder.

 

 

 

 

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

 

 

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has

been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tuesday, August

08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: Warren

Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis taken

18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and

when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: Warren

Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with Cancer

ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with investments

and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all,

does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: Warren

Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I respect your opinion as

always.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as

my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing

an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process.

Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am

sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the

same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about

retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they

influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Partial

aspects are

also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the

ocurrence of the event.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's

past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant

chart does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: Warren

Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand

all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24

hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a

long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper

rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and

emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth,

Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to

live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car,

though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is

one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use rectification

techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren

Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren

Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude:

41N16

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53

Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

 

 

 

 

 

 

================================================

 

 

 

 

 

 

Asc

15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun

13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mars

08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra

 

 

 

 

 

 

Merc

10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta

Mo

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jupt

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Ma

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ke

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ketu

02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra

Ma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True Node

365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

 

 

 

 

 

 

Day: Saturday

Sunrise: 5:47 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tithi: Shukla

Saptami

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yoga Pt: 22:57

Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dagha Rashis: Can

Sag

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rashi Chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Some of the

events/facts used in the rectification:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Much success

can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

My dear

Arun,

 

Thank you for sharing his birth data.

 

If you put Charlie’s chart over Warren

Buffet’s chart:

 

 

We can see another important aspect. Charlie’s Jupiter

falls exactly over Warren’s MEP5, which helped to bring an accident to Warren while

enjoying a boat trip in the lake as it already happened when Warren almost drown

in 1981, while in Venus/Jupiter.

 

Best wishes,

 

Jorge

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Arun

Rao

quarta-feira, 9 de Agosto de

2006 03:01

SAMVA

RE: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

My dear Mr. Angelino,

 

Speaking of Charlie Munger...

 

His DOB is January 1, 1924 in Omaha, Nebraska USA.

 

On that day the planets Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn can all be

100% strong, along with Mars being close to fully strong in slight infancy.

 

Libra Asc. on that day gives us a fabulous chart.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Arun

 

Jorge Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear

Sheri,

 

 

 

 

 

If L3

and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is

afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem.

 

 

While

watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions

that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear

and he can see. It seems also that his left ear has a listening

apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to confirm that to me?

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 23:01

SAMVA

RE: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

The book did not mention

a hearing problem, but it was published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old,

so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are

chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri Powers

 

Jorge Angelino

<jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Sheri,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While

watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet

it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about

his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Earlier this year I started to worry that my

partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue

with him because I didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble.

So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was

losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across

the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do

something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading

the paper. From across the room I said, " Charlie, should we buy Microsoft

at $26? " and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and

said again, " Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26? " and

again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is

so I go right next to him and say, " Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft

at $26? " and he says to me, " For the third time, YES. "

 

 

 

 

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On

Behalf Of Sheri Powers

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de

2006 16:51

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Sally,

 

 

 

 

 

 

In reading Warren

Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing

to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he

was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to

charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He

has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children,

and extremely generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'-

however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think

Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious

homes. Sheri Powers

 

Sally Spencer

<sally234 > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Jorge and members,

 

I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than

just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a

quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth

house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account

for discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people.

Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be

some grist for the mill..

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

The video was not currently working..

 

 

In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate

governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a

throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased.

''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P.

Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors

and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett

stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder.

 

 

 

 

 

On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt >

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his story

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

SAMVA

[sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

 

 

terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

SAMVA

Re:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello

dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The ascending sign has

been taken as Aquarius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tuesday,

August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks.

And what will be his rising sign?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto

de 2006 09:08

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have as a hypothesis

taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as

and when reported.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Monday,

August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

again for your input.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In your

opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us

what will be his rectified MEP1?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

in advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

[sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

13:11

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The proposed chart with

Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his professional matters with

investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all,

does not show the natal promise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday, August

06, 2006 12:58 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I

respect your opinion as always.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as

my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of

doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification

process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I

am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In this

case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn

is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my

opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times

that they influence and are influenced in a different way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Partial

aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to

understand the ocurrence of the event.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this

does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best

wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006

02:46

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello my dear Jorge,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides the fourth lord

being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I

always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions

in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past,

could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart

does not do satisfactory on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday,

August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE:

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dear

Professor,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank

you for your comments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I

understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an

interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that

case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's

life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work,

which is a very good learning exercise anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But as I

think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

lived mother. The Moon is just

debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and

afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is

unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental

and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regarding

the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for

$31,500. He used to drive a

2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that

of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and

MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say

that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun

like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of

entrepreneurship.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th

house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed

in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money

wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand that only a

valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may

be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on

his rectified chart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It would be nice if

someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ]

On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com

sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006

17:14

SAMVA

Re: Warren Buffet

rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A

debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The

debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who

is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Similar

is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the

influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When

time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support

the events of life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since you use

rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not

giving true picture, at least to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jorge Angelino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAMVA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saturday,

August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear List Members,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is the

rectified chart of:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Warren

Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aug 30, 1930

3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omaha, NE:USA

Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53

Current Period: MA/RA/KE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Planet

Deg Sign Speed SA

Nakshatra Lord

 

 

 

 

 

 

================================================

 

 

 

 

 

 

Asc

15:25

Can

Pushya Sa

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun

13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

 

 

 

 

 

 

Moon

06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mars

08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK

Ardra Ra

 

 

 

 

 

 

Merc

10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST

Hasta Mo

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jupt

20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

 

 

 

 

 

 

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29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra

Ma

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sag -00:01:00 FM

Mula Ke

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rahu

02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini

Ke

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ketu

02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra

Ma

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True Node

365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

 

 

 

 

 

 

Day: Saturday

Sunrise: 5:47 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tithi: Shukla

Saptami

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yoga Pt: 22:57

Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dagha Rashis: Can

Sag

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rashi Chart

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Navamsha

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Some of the

events/facts used in the rectification:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Much success

can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors cannot resist the temptation to

constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jorge, Thankyou for the explanation of hearing loss, and for the in depth analysis of the event. Cancer rising does fit this event to a T. Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, Supposing the hearing problem is true, it is very easily seen in the Cancer lagna: 1) Natal Sa simultaneously afflicts Saggitarius & Gemini MEPs, natal Mercury, L3, and MEP3. 2) Jupiter becomes afflicted by being placed in H12, and having its MT/Placement House afflicted by the MMP. Thank you for sharing another important event of his life with such a detail. Let us look briefly to it: On Aug 16, 1991, Buffett had to step in and take over as chairman of Salomon Brothers trading firm. He did not want to do this, but was asked by his friends at the firm as well as to protect his investment (700 million) and those of his Berkshire/Hathaway stockholders. He was unhappy away from his home base of Omaha, and reluctantly in the spotlight a lot. On July 26, 1991, he entered Su/Ju/Ju, so conflicts are seen. On Aug 16, 1991, the transits were: Transit Sun is afflicted by the conjunction with transit Jupiter, and both are afflicted by natal Rahu. Natal Jupiter starts to become afflicted by the transit Rahu/Ketu axis. …but then in early 92, especially Feb, Buffett is vilified in the press, and is very hurt by this. He doesn't sleep well and is very upset. Rahu/Ketu axis became

stationary over his MEP6/MEP12 from November 1991 till almost February 1992, afflicting all his even houses, and disturbing his sleep by being exactly over MEP12. By the end of January, transit Sun was exactly conjunct transit Saturn, and transit Saturn was also exactly afflicting MEP7, MEP1, MEP9 and MEP4. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersquarta-feira, 9 de Agosto de 2006 06:37SAMVA Subject: RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear Jorge, Hi- sorry I can't comfirm if Buffett wears a hearing aid. From your excerpt from the video and your observation, it sounds like he does. Given his age, could a relatively wide affliction to the 3rd or 11th (or Gemini) cause it? I have another event. On Aug 16, 1991, Buffett had to step in and take over as chairman of Salomon Brothers trading firm, as they

were investigated for phony trading of US Treasury securities. He did not want to do this, but was asked by his friends at the firm as well as to protect his investment (700 million) and those of his Berkshire/Hathaway stockholders. He was unhappy away from his home base of Omaha, and reluctantly in the spotlight a lot. The approximate time line is- summer 1991- the scandal breaks. Aug 16, 1991-CEO Gotfreund resigns-Buffett reluctantly takes over as chairman and soon names Maughn as CEO.SEC Hearing-(I believe this was all in New York City) Sept 4, 1991. Warren apologizes and is very modest, working very hard to win over the SEC. Investigation and possible prosecution would bankrupt the

firm. Fall 1991- Buffett institutes major reforms and late 91 early 92, there are massive defections at the firm as bonuses were cut. In 1991, press was positive for Buffett(but not for the scandal), but then in early 92, especially Feb, Buffett is vilified in the press, and is very hurt by this. He doesn't sleep well and is very upset. Finally in May 1992, the SEC decides not to prosecute, but the firm must pay 290 million in fines. In June 1992, Buffett resigns as chairman and returns to

Omaha. The events and dasas seem to fit both the Cancer and Aquarius charts, but I am novice and I would like to hear more experienced opinions- In Cancer, the period was Sun-Jup from Aug 1991 to May 1992 with Jupiter afflicting the 2nd house of status. In Aquarius L1 Saturn is in the 12th and the period was Moon-Ven, turning to a more positive Moon-Ven-Jup in June 1992, (13 degrees Aquarius) or in April 1992 (18 degrees Aquaruius). During this timeline, Rahu/Ketu axis in Sagittarius/Gemini afflicted first Jupiter, then Saturn, then Mars, and was over one degree away from Mars by June 1992. Any observations appreciated-Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: Dear Sheri, If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius MEP is afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem. While watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the beginning, he mentions that he works together with his partner Carlie Munger because Charlie can ear and he can see. It seems also that his

left ear has a listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be so kind to confirm that to me? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersterça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 23:01SAMVA Subject: RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear Jorge, The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was

published 11 years ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed a problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss? Sheri PowersJorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> wrote: Dear Sheri, While watching http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint about his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in advance. "Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger was going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue with him because I didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to my doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was

losing his hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was reading the paper. From across the room I said, "Charlie, should we buy Microsoft at $26?" and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the room and said again, "Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26?" and again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing loss is so I go right next to him and say, "Charlie, should we be buying Microsoft at $26?" and he says to me, "For the third time, YES." http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgrimage.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845.shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Sheri Powersterça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 16:51SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hi Sally, In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier years. He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to struggle as young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He also gave only paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very little on home and comforts. He has obviously changed over the years, being more generous now to his children, and extremely

generous in charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates has been historically more generous and has lived in luxurious homes. Sheri Powers Sally Spencer <sally234 > wrote: Hi Jorge and members,I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure, here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a weak fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do we account for discrepancies

like that in charts of "successful" people. Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be some grist for the mill..Aloha, SallyThe video was not currently working..In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run it with our investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal corporate empire-builder. On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt > wrote: My dear Professor, Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling his

story http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276 Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, The ascending sign has been taken as

Aquarius. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

My dear Professor, Thanks. And what will be his rising sign? Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Jorge, I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree for monitoring future developments as and when reported. Best

wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thanks again for your input. In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1? Thanks in advance. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello my dear Jorge, The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently link his

professional matters with investments and speculative investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal promise. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, I respect your opinion as always. But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot. In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its own MT sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a different way. Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they help us to understand the ocurrence of the event. But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting. Best wishes, Jorge SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello

my dear Jorge, Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on this. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49

AM RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart My dear Professor, Thank you for your comments. I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise anyway. But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some thoughts on your points: 1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. Regarding the

debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957 for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently purchased a Cadillac DTS. 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2 and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest level of entrepreneurship. 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6 (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this calibre. I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart. It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data regarding his true TOB. Best wishes, Jorge

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) comSent: sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14SAMVA Subject: Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart Hello dear Mr. Angelino, A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long lived mother. The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot

be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the sixth house. When time of

birth is not there, there can be many trials but the chart must support the events of life. Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well, the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me. Best wishes, - Jorge Angelino SAMVA Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM Warren Buffet rectified chart Dear List Members, This is the rectified chart

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Dear Sheri,

 

In my humble opinion and esteemed members, Cn does not indicate the

professional significations well, nor the degree of wealth.

 

Hearing problems aren't confirmed.

 

The natal chart must be obvious and superseeds all divisional charts.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

-

" Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace

<SAMVA >

Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:49 AM

RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

 

 

> Dear Jorge,

> Thankyou for the explanation of hearing loss, and for the in depth

> analysis of the event. Cancer rising does fit this event to a T. Sheri

> Powers

>

> Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:

> Dear Sheri,

>

> Supposing the hearing problem is true, it is very easily seen in the

> Cancer lagna:

>

> 1) Natal Sa simultaneously afflicts Saggitarius & Gemini MEPs,

> natal Mercury, L3, and MEP3.

> 2) Jupiter becomes afflicted by being placed in H12, and having its

> MT/Placement House afflicted by the MMP.

>

> Thank you for sharing another important event of his life with such a

> detail. Let us look briefly to it:

>

> On Aug 16, 1991, Buffett had to step in and take over as chairman of

> Salomon Brothers trading firm. He did not want to do this, but was asked

> by his friends at the firm as well as to protect his investment (700

> million) and those of his Berkshire/Hathaway stockholders. He was unhappy

> away from his home base of Omaha, and reluctantly in the spotlight a lot.

>

> On July 26, 1991, he entered Su/Ju/Ju, so conflicts are seen. On Aug 16,

> 1991, the transits were:

>

>

> Transit Sun is afflicted by the conjunction with transit Jupiter, and

> both are afflicted by natal Rahu. Natal Jupiter starts to become afflicted

> by the transit Rahu/Ketu axis.

>

> â?¦but then in early 92, especially Feb, Buffett is vilified in the

> press, and is very hurt by this. He doesn't sleep well and is very upset.

> Rahu/Ketu axis became stationary over his MEP6/MEP12 from November 1991

> till almost February 1992, afflicting all his even houses, and disturbing

> his sleep by being exactly over MEP12. By the end of January, transit Sun

> was exactly conjunct transit Saturn, and transit Saturn was also exactly

> afflicting MEP7, MEP1, MEP9 and MEP4.

>

>

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Jorge

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> Sheri Powers

> quarta-feira, 9 de Agosto de 2006 06:37

> SAMVA

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

> Dear Jorge,

>

> Hi- sorry I can't comfirm if Buffett wears a hearing aid. From your

> excerpt from the video and your observation, it sounds like he does.

> Given his age, could a relatively wide affliction to the 3rd or 11th (or

> Gemini) cause it?

>

> I have another event. On Aug 16, 1991, Buffett had to step in and take

> over as chairman of Salomon Brothers trading firm, as they were

> investigated for phony trading of US Treasury securities. He did not want

> to do this, but was asked by his friends at the firm as well as to protect

> his investment (700 million) and those of his Berkshire/Hathaway

> stockholders. He was unhappy away from his home base of Omaha, and

> reluctantly in the spotlight a lot. The approximate time line is-

>

> summer 1991- the scandal breaks.

>

> Aug 16, 1991-CEO Gotfreund resigns-Buffett reluctantly takes over as

> chairman and soon names Maughn as CEO.

> SEC Hearing-(I believe this was all in New York City) Sept 4, 1991.

> Warren apologizes and is very modest, working very hard to win over the

> SEC. Investigation and possible prosecution would bankrupt the firm.

>

> Fall 1991- Buffett institutes major reforms and late 91 early 92, there

> are massive defections at the firm as bonuses were cut.

>

> In 1991, press was positive for Buffett(but not for the scandal), but

> then in early 92, especially Feb, Buffett is vilified in the press, and is

> very hurt by this. He doesn't sleep well and is very upset.

>

> Finally in May 1992, the SEC decides not to prosecute, but the firm

> must pay 290 million in fines.

>

> In June 1992, Buffett resigns as chairman and returns to Omaha. The

> events and dasas seem to fit both the Cancer and Aquarius charts, but I am

> novice and I would like to hear more experienced opinions- In Cancer, the

> period was Sun-Jup from Aug 1991 to May 1992 with Jupiter afflicting the

> 2nd house of status. In Aquarius L1 Saturn is in the 12th and the period

> was Moon-Ven, turning to a more positive Moon-Ven-Jup in June 1992, (13

> degrees Aquarius) or in April 1992 (18 degrees Aquaruius). During this

> timeline, Rahu/Ketu axis in Sagittarius/Gemini afflicted first Jupiter,

> then Saturn, then Mars, and was over one degree away from Mars by June

> 1992. Any observations appreciated-Sheri Powers

> Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:

>

> Dear Sheri,

>

>

>

> If L3 and/or H3 and/or L11 and/or H11 and/or Jupiter and/or Saggitarius

> MEP is afflicted, one can develop a hearing problem.

>

> While watching the video, it seems he says that. Almost in the

> beginning, he mentions that he works together with his partner Carlie

> Munger because Charlie can ear and he can see. It seems also that his

> left ear has a listening apparatus. Would you or any other list member be

> so kind to confirm that to me? Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> Sheri Powers

> terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 23:01

> SAMVA

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

> Dear Jorge,

>

>

> The book did not mention a hearing problem, but it was published 11

> years ago, when he was 64 years old, so it is very likely he has developed

> a problem since then. What are chart significations of hearing loss?

> Sheri Powers

>

> Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sheri,

>

>

>

>

>

> While watching

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6208910876057109785 & q=warren+buffet

> it sounded to me that Warren Buffet has some earing problems. Any hint

> about his possible deafness in the book you are reading? Thanks in

> advance.

>

>

>

>

>

> " Earlier this year I started to worry that my partner Charlie Munger

> was going deaf, but I didn't want to bring up the issue with him because I

> didn't want him to get defensive and stir up some trouble. So, I went to

> my doctor and asked him what I should do to see if Charlie was losing his

> hearing. He told me to say something in a normal voice from across the

> room and see if Charlie could hear me and if he couldn't, I should do

> something about it. The next day I was in Charlie's office and he was

> reading the paper. From across the room I said, " Charlie, should we buy

> Microsoft at $26? " and he didn't say anything. I walked halfway across the

> room and said again, " Charlie, what do you think about Microsoft at $26? "

> and again, nothing from him. So now I'm worried about how bad his hearing

> loss is so I go right next to him and say, " Charlie, should we be buying

> Microsoft at $26? " and he says to me, " For the third time, YES. "

>

>

>

>

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/storage/paper343/news/2006/01/23/News/My.Pilgr\

image.To.Omaha.The.Great.Warren.Buffet.Shares.Personal.Insights.Advice.W-1493845\

..shtml?sourcedomain=www.harbus.org & MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

>

>

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

> Jorge

>

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> Sheri Powers

> terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 16:51

> SAMVA

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Sally,

>

>

>

> In reading Warren Buffett's bio, he was very stingy in his earlier

> years. He gave nothing to his children for a long time, forcing them to

> struggle as young adults, he was very concerned about spoiling them. He

> also gave only paltry sums to charity for a long time, and spent very

> little on home and comforts. He has obviously changed over the years,

> being more generous now to his children, and extremely generous in

> charitable giving, but his true nature was 'skinflint'- however that

> definitely contributed to his investing success. I think Gates has been

> historically more generous and has lived in luxurious homes. Sheri

> Powers

>

> Sally Spencer <sally234 wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi Jorge and members,

>

> I checked out Buffet, and there are other dimensions to the fourth house

> than just big money maker, how about character, not knowing for sure,

> here's a quote, could he be selfish, lacking in character, befitting a

> weak fourth house..like you said a disturbed mother. I mean how else do

> we account for discrepancies like that in charts of " successful " people.

> Everyone has something they are working through in life. There has to be

> some grist for the mill..

>

> Aloha,

>

> Sally

>

> The video was not currently working..

>

>

> In an era in which most CEOs at least mouth the platitudes of good

> corporate governance and shareholder rights, Buffett, in his good-natured

> way, is a throwback to a time when a mogul was a mogul and did as he damn

> well pleased. ''Berkshire is the company I wanted to create. It's not the

> company Alfred P. Sloan wanted to create. It fits me,'' he says. ''I run

> it with our investors and managers in mind, but it is designed to fit

> me.'' To be blunt, Buffett stands revealed as a driven, even monomaniacal

> corporate empire-builder.

>

>

> On 8/7/06, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino > wrote:

>

>

> My dear Professor,

>

Thank you. I thought may be you would like to see himself telling

> his story

>

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6701318343299922276

>

Best wishes,

>

>

Jorge

>

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> siha

>

>

>

> terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2006 02:25

> SAMVA

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

>

>

>

The ascending sign has been taken as Aquarius.

>

>

>

Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

-

>

>

>

>

> Jorge Angelino

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA

>

>

>

>

> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:08 AM

>

>

>

>

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

My dear Professor,

>

Thanks. And what will be his rising sign?

>

Best wishes,

>

Jorge

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> siha

> segunda-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2006 09:08

> SAMVA

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Hello dear Mr. Jorge,

>

>

>

I have as a hypothesis taken 18 degree as the ascending degree

> for monitoring future developments as and when reported.

>

>

>

Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

-

>

>

>

>

> Jorge Angelino

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA

>

>

>

>

> Monday, August 07, 2006 6:43 AM

>

>

>

>

> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

My dear Professor,

>

Thanks again for your input.

>

In your opinion, and with all the events already gathered, would

> you please tell us what will be his rectified MEP1?

>

Thanks in advance.

>

Best wishes,

>

Jorge

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> siha

> domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 13:11

> SAMVA

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Hello my dear Jorge,

>

>

>

The proposed chart with Cancer ascendant does not prominently

> link his professional matters with investments and speculative

> investments. As already said this chart, at all, does not show the natal

> promise.

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>

Best wishes,

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> Jorge Angelino

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> SAMVA

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> Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 PM

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> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

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My dear Professor,

>

I respect your opinion as always.

>

But as my hability to predict is not used so often, I always follow

> the practice of doing an exhaustive research of events before diving in

> the rectification process. Many times I even sleep over them and let my

> brain do the job while I am sleeping. This previous research helps a lot.

>

In this case, the only retrograde planet, Saturn, L8, aspects its

> own MT sign. Saturn is in the same longitude as the Sun and Mercury, and

> you know already my opinion about retrogrades. They are closer to Earth

> and I have seen many times that they influence and are influenced in a

> different way.

>

Partial aspects are also taken into consideration. Many times they

> help us to understand the ocurrence of the event.

>

But this does not belong to SA, and I respect it while posting.

>

Best wishes,

>

Jorge

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> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> siha

> domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 02:46

> SAMVA

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

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Hello my dear Jorge,

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>

Besides the fourth lord being so weak the lord of the 6th house

> is placed in the house of losses. I always follow the practice of seeing

> the rectified chart for predictions in the past. That is if we were not

> knowing the incidents of one's past, could we have predicted such events

> from the chart? The Cancer ascendant chart does not do satisfactory on

> this.

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>

Best wishes,

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> Jorge Angelino

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> SAMVA

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> Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:49 AM

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> RE: Warren Buffet rectified chart

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My dear Professor,

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Thank you for your comments.

>

I understand all your points and, since this rectification was done

> for an interval of 24 hours, it would be no surprise if my trial was

> wrong. In that case, at least SAMVA was provided with a long list of

> events of Warren Buffet's life and the interested list members can now do

> a deeper rectification work, which is a very good learning exercise

> anyway.

>

But as I think that this is his correct TOB, let me share some

> thoughts on your points:

>

1) A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot

> give long lived mother. The Moon is just debilitated, but is also well

> placed in House 5 and unafflicted. The weak and afflicted L4 has a strong

> dispositor in its own MT sign. House 4 is unafflicted. Warren's mother had

> mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular

> basis.

>

>

>

> Regarding the debilitated and afflicted L4: Despite his immense

> wealth, Buffett is famous for his unpretentious and frugal lifestyle. He

> continues to live in the same suburban house in Omaha he bought in 1957

> for $31,500. He used to drive a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, though he recently

> purchased a Cadillac DTS.

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>

>

> 2) The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot

> be that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world. He

> has a very strong Sun, L2, in its own MT sign, closely influencing MEP2

> and MEP8. As H2 has to do with face, this is the reason why some list

> members say that he resembles a Leo native. Adding to this, he also has a

> very strong Sun like Mercury, L3 in his own MT sign, giving him a highest

> level of entrepreneurship.

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>

>

> 3) Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in

> the 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from

> the sixth house. Mars, L10 (action) in H12 (expenses), is also L6

> (financial stability) placed in H2 (wealth) in navamsa. Only a person that

> is so willing to spend money wisely can be a stock investor of this

> calibre.

>

I understand that only a valid birth certificate can remove the

> doubts of our dear list members, but may be a deeper analysis of the

> dashas and TTT influence can throw some light on his rectified chart.

>

It would be nice if someone finds somewhere some trustable data

> regarding his true TOB.

>

Best wishes,

>

Jorge

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> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of

> siha

> sábado, 5 de Agosto de 2006 17:14

> SAMVA

> Re: Warren Buffet rectified chart

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Hello dear Mr. Angelino,

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A debilitated Moon with utterly weak fourth lord cannot give long

> lived mother.

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The debilitated fourth lord in the thirtieth degree cannot be

> that of a person who is one of the wealthiest persons of the world.

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>

Similar is the situation of the lord of the tenth house in the

> 12th house under the influence of the lord of the eighth house from the

> sixth house.

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When time of birth is not there, there can be many trials but the

> chart must support the events of life.

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>

Since you use rectification techniques other than SA, as well,

> the chart rectified is not giving true picture, at least to me.

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Best wishes,

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> -

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> Jorge Angelino

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> SAMVA

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> Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:33 PM

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> Warren Buffet rectified chart

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Dear List Members,

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This is the rectified chart of:

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Warren Buffett

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> Aug 30, 1930 3:28:13 AM +06:00 CST

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> Omaha, NE:USA Longitude: 95W56 Latitude: 41N16

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> Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:53 Current Period: MA/RA/KE

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Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord

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> Asc 15:25 Can Pushya Sa

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> Sun 13:23 Leo +00:58:02 ST P.Phalguni Ve

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> Moon 06:14 Sco +12:55:40 WK Anuradha Sa

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> Mars 08:18 Gem +00:37:34 WK Ardra Ra

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> Merc 10:09 Vir +00:44:18 ST Hasta Mo

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> Jupt 20:40 Gem +00:10:38 FM Punarvasu Ju

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> Ven 29:07 Vir +01:02:44 WK Chitra Ma

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> Sat R 12:27 Sag -00:01:00 FM Mula Ke

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> Rahu 02:00 Ari +00:00:40 FM Aswini Ke

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> Ketu 02:00 Lib +00:00:40 FM Chitra Ma

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True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 436 beats

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> Day: Saturday Sunrise: 5:47 AM

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> Tithi: Shukla Saptami

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> Yoga Pt: 22:57 Ge Yogi:Ju AviYogi:Su Dup Yogi: Me

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Some of the events/facts used in the rectification:

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" Much success can be attributed to inactivity. Most investors

> cannot resist the temptation to constantly buy and sell. " - Warren Buffett

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