Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Hari Om Dear Sanjay, How does one detect a somnambulist in a chart? Logically, I guess it should involve 12h (sleep) of D-16 (pleasures), with a weak Mo taken for a ride by Ke (the ruler of the subconscious mind), with Ma (nocturnal strength plus karaka for physical action like walking) spicing things a little. I was one in my teens, incidentally, and the butt of many an amusing tale :^)) While I don't remember the exact period during which I went walkabouts regularly, it was definitely when I was running my Ke mahadasa. I do hope you can take some time out for this. Warm regards, Rama hubli This e-mail and any attachments are confidential; they are for the use of the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, do not copy or disclose its contents and please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. Email transmission is not a secure means of communication nor is it guaranteed to be error free; emails can be intercepted, lost, destroyed, corrupted or contain viruses. the sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission, nor does it accept liability for any loss or damage caused by viruses. Dodsal Pte Ltd. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal - For more information please visit www.marshalsoftware.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Ramapriya, A sleep walker has been asked about in previous mails on the Goravani list. I'm attaching the discussion which also reveals abit more. Follow the whole thing from the bottom up.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org Jaya Jagannath Dear Al, The presence of malefics in quadrants is important with a dual sign ascending to produce a dreamer. In such a scenario, the Lagna is vital. With benefics, this will be dreaming about good things like a big project or social service etc. I also get many dreams about building a center for the re-establishment of the Guru-Sisya Parampara in jyotish. Lord Jagannath has already helped me to start off with the SJVC where many good Jyotisha are under training. You will be very surprised to see their development and the accuracy of their readings. This is my dream. As regards sleep walking, look for the affliction of Venus along with the 9th or 12th house in addition to this. It is not possible for a person in sleep to kill, but posession by another spiritwhen the mind is put to deep sleep temporarily is possible. Look for Pisacha badha and other such yoga in the chart in such cases. Hare Krishna, Sanjay Rath - Al Kumara srath@b... ; gjlist@g... Friday, July 02, 1999 18:12 Rath Re: Sleep walking, sleep talking Thanks for your reply Sanjay. I guess my question was more onwhether they make up these stories or not - but legitimate peoplewho are normal otherwise but do sleep walking and talking. Extendingwhat you said, is it possible that this could be due to dual ascendantmaybe without malefics in quadrants?Thanks.Al>>Jaya Jagannath>Dear Al,>Most murderers give such cock & bull stories. Take the case of the killer >of Mahatma Gandhi i.e. Nathuram Godse. He had a dual ascendant (Gemini) >with a malefic Mars in it. He gave some high blown explanation for this >henious act. Normally, when killers give such stories, look for dual sign >ascending with malefics in quadrants without any beneficial help. Then they >will be dreamers, living in a make believe world and will also be very >attached to some ideology, however warped.>Best Regards,>Sanjay Rath.>> -> Al Kumara> gjlist@g...> Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:19 Rath> Sleep walking, sleep talking>>> hey Folks,>> I was listening in today on TV of how a person on trial was using> the argument that he did the act in sleep! That made me think,> is there a way to see from the chart tendency to talk and> walk during sleep?>> I used to do that when I was young. Some afflictions to the> 12th house?>> Thanks.>> Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Hari Om Dear Visti, Incisive stuff, but I wonder why Sanjay didn't mention that Saturn should be well-placed and free from malefic aspects. Since the karaka for sleep is Saturn, it being free from malefic aspects on it is also a crucial ingredient in all this, I feel, 'cause if Saturn is afflicted or disturbed, in the physical sense, there won't be peaceful sleep - and it's only in deep sleep can somnambulism manifest... don't you think such a Sa should be aspecting 12h too? Since there's no mention of D-16, Sanjay obviously doesn't consider sleeping a luxury, unlike me )) Cheers, Ramapriya hubli - Visti Larsen varahamihira Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:06 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Calling Sanjay Jaya Jagannath Dear Al, The presence of malefics in quadrants is important with a dual sign ascending to produce a dreamer. In such a scenario, the Lagna is vital. With benefics, this will be dreaming about good things like a big project or social service etc. I also get many dreams about building a center for the re-establishment of the Guru-Sisya Parampara in jyotish. Lord Jagannath has already helped me to start off with the SJVC where many good Jyotisha are under training. You will be very surprised to see their development and the accuracy of their readings. This is my dream. As regards sleep walking, look for the affliction of Venus along with the 9th or 12th house in addition to this. It is not possible for a person in sleep to kill, but posession by another spiritwhen the mind is put to deep sleep temporarily is possible. Look for Pisacha badha and other such yoga in the chart in such cases. Hare Krishna, Sanjay Rath This e-mail and any attachments are confidential; they are for the use of the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, do not copy or disclose its contents and please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. Email transmission is not a secure means of communication nor is it guaranteed to be error free; emails can be intercepted, lost, destroyed, corrupted or contain viruses. the sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission, nor does it accept liability for any loss or damage caused by viruses. Dodsal Pte Ltd. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal - For more information please visit www.marshalsoftware.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Ramapriya, Saturn is the Karaka for the complete death of consciousness, and for Soma-activity to manifest, there must atleast be some subconscious activity. But the basis of the sleep walking Yoga is not ones state of mind, but how much time you spend in the bed - Venus. If afflicted and associated with the 9th (dreams) or 12th (sleep) houses, the native may get restless during sleep and sleep walking can occur. We can include d-16 if you turn on your computer or washing machine whilst sleeping. walking.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Ramapriya D varahamihira Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:18 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Calling Sanjay Hari Om Dear Visti, Incisive stuff, but I wonder why Sanjay didn't mention that Saturn should be well-placed and free from malefic aspects. Since the karaka for sleep is Saturn, it being free from malefic aspects on it is also a crucial ingredient in all this, I feel, 'cause if Saturn is afflicted or disturbed, in the physical sense, there won't be peaceful sleep - and it's only in deep sleep can somnambulism manifest... don't you think such a Sa should be aspecting 12h too? Since there's no mention of D-16, Sanjay obviously doesn't consider sleeping a luxury, unlike me )) Cheers, Ramapriya hubli - Visti Larsen varahamihira Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:06 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Calling Sanjay Jaya Jagannath Dear Al, The presence of malefics in quadrants is important with a dual sign ascending to produce a dreamer. In such a scenario, the Lagna is vital. With benefics, this will be dreaming about good things like a big project or social service etc. I also get many dreams about building a center for the re-establishment of the Guru-Sisya Parampara in jyotish. Lord Jagannath has already helped me to start off with the SJVC where many good Jyotisha are under training. You will be very surprised to see their development and the accuracy of their readings. This is my dream. As regards sleep walking, look for the affliction of Venus along with the 9th or 12th house in addition to this. It is not possible for a person in sleep to kill, but posession by another spiritwhen the mind is put to deep sleep temporarily is possible. Look for Pisacha badha and other such yoga in the chart in such cases. Hare Krishna, Sanjay Rath This e-mail and any attachments are confidential; they are for the use of the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, do not copy or disclose its contents and please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. Email transmission is not a secure means of communication nor is it guaranteed to be error free; emails can be intercepted, lost, destroyed, corrupted or contain viruses. the sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission, nor does it accept liability for any loss or damage caused by viruses. Dodsal Pte Ltd. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal - For more information please visit www.marshalsoftware.com |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Hari Om Dear Visti, I'm not utterly convinced yet. The intensity of sleep counts for a wee more than the length of sleep time, imho. And D-16 I know now it has to be. Can't say for the others, but I certainly have heard pretty much confirmed stories of people driving cars perfectly normally in perfectly deep sleep; switching on the PC or peering into a fridge require a lot less skill... I often mysteriously switched beds across rooms during the night. The most dramatic event, I was told, was one occasion when I opened the door in the dead of the night, went out stargazing for a while before returning, to the complete astonishment of my dad and bro. Two things they did note was that it was an amavaasya that day, and my eyes were shut throughout all this. One of these days, I need to ask about somniloquy too. That trait too started from around then and has remained utterly (well, nearly) intact to this day,no kidding! The preta theory that Sanjay mentions is scary, so I'm not buying it, though Ve is afflicted by Ra in my chart ) Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli - Visti Larsen varahamihira Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:54 PM Re: |Sri Varaha| Calling Sanjay |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|Dear Ramapriya, Saturn is the Karaka for the complete death of consciousness, and for Soma-activity to manifest, there must atleast be some subconscious activity. But the basis of the sleep walking Yoga is not ones state of mind, but how much time you spend in the bed - Venus. If afflicted and associated with the 9th (dreams) or 12th (sleep) houses, the native may get restless during sleep and sleep walking can occur. We can include d-16 if you turn on your computer or washing machine whilst sleeping. walking.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org This e-mail and any attachments are confidential; they are for the use of the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, do not copy or disclose its contents and please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. Email transmission is not a secure means of communication nor is it guaranteed to be error free; emails can be intercepted, lost, destroyed, corrupted or contain viruses. the sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission, nor does it accept liability for any loss or damage caused by viruses. Dodsal Pte Ltd. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal - For more information please visit www.marshalsoftware.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 OM NAMO NARAYANAYA Dear Ramapriya, Just check your Navamsha chart,the position of Ketu and Shani and Chandra also.You will get the answer to your question about your sleepwalikng during Ketu Dasa. I hope this helps you. With Sri Narayana Nama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Ramapriya D <hubli wrote: Hari Om Dear Sanjay, How does one detect a somnambulist in a chart? Logically, I guess it should involve 12h (sleep) of D-16 (pleasures), with a weak Mo taken for a ride by Ke (the ruler of the subconscious mind), with Ma (nocturnal strength plus karaka for physical action like walking) spicing things a little. I was one in my teens, incidentally, and the butt of many an amusing tale :^)) While I don't remember the exact period during which I went walkabouts regularly, it was definitely when I was running my Ke mahadasa. I do hope you can take some time out for this. Warm regards, Rama hubli This e-mail and any attachments are confidential; they are for the use of the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, do not copy or disclose its contents and please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. Email transmission is not a secure means of communication nor is it guaranteed to be error free; emails can be intercepted, lost, destroyed, corrupted or contain viruses. the sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission, nor does it accept liability for any loss or damage caused by viruses. Dodsal Pte Ltd. This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal - For more information please visit www.marshalsoftware.com |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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