Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Neurostro, Sanjayji in his lectures recommended strengthening Karka of the house. Karka of 3H is Mars. He recommends checking the strength and lordship of karka (Mars in this case) in the chart. If the planet is a functional benefic wearing a gemstone (Coral in this case) can help. Alternatively you can propitiate the karka. Best wishes Ramesh neurostro Sent by: sohamsa 03/13/2007 11:41 AM Please respond to sohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject remedy for guru in MKS Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Neurostro, Guru is very good in third house even at its marana karaka sthaana u don " t need remedy as in aquarius Ju is like in exaltation.Hope it helped. regards Hare Rama Krishna On 13 Mar 2007 08:42:18 -0700, neurostro <neurostro wrote: Respected Gurujans,I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru inMarana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house.RegardsNeurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com neurostro napisał(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 I disagree that Jupitor is like in exaltaion in aquarius. But 3rd house has aspect on 9th which is good. where is Rahu and ketu? yasoda"Dr. Paul om" <drpaulom wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Neurostro, Guru is very good in third house even at its marana karaka sthaana u don"t need remedy as in aquarius Ju is like in exaltation.Hope it helped. regards Hare Rama Krishna On 13 Mar 2007 08:42:18 -0700, neurostro <neurostro > wrote: Respected Gurujans,I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru inMarana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house.RegardsNeurostro Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Jyotisha's , Namaskar Please allow me to share what Sanjay Rath wrote in the past about it: The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases. Dhanus Lagna Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules properties, houses, mother etc. In one case, the Moon (karaka for mother) was in trines to the 4th house, so mother is protected. Mars is the Atmakaraka and is placed in the sixth house from the 4th house in Leo. There is Guru mangala yoga but this is not going to favor the native in matters of properties. The native belonged to a very landed family from erstwhile East Bengal. With partition, he was separated from all those properties and during the time of his birth and growing up, his parents has already suffered a severe downfall in their status etc. All that property is lost once and for all and can never be recovered. Thus, you can see that the native has suffered the 'marana karaka sthana placement of Jupiter at birth itself' - today there are no properties for him to inherit, this also destroys the big ego (lagna) that comes with these properties...good for his spiritual growth. Other details you can ask him..he is a Jyotish Guru of SJC. He will tell you how the blessings of maharishi Jaimini came and he went to singapore. You see when the lagna lord is in marana sthana then the native goes abroad or leaves the lagna (place or nation/culture of birth). Meena Lagna There was this nice lady who was our junior and good friend in the Defence Ministry. She has Meena Lagna with guru in the third house in Taurus. She always had the deep desire to stay in a foreign land. When the time came, she was asked to wear a POKHRAJ (yellow sapphire) and told that she would go towards the south, probably Australia etc with her spouse and would stay in a foreign land when the blessings of the Guru. She wore the pokhraj, her spouse got a posting in Australia, she went there with him. Now you will see that she almost lost her IAS Allied services job in the government because of this, and then promptly took out the pokhraj and returned to India as she wanted to have the job. You see here Guru acted as in Marana sthana for lagna and hence takes the person abroad. Since it is also the tenth lord, she almost lost her government job as well if she had continued indefinitely out there. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com yasoda krsna napisał(a): I disagree that Jupitor is like in exaltaion in aquarius. But 3rd house has aspect on 9th which is good. where is Rahu and ketu? yasoda "Dr. Paul om" <drpaulom > wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Neurostro, Guru is very good in third house even at its marana karaka sthaana u don"t need remedy as in aquarius Ju is like in exaltation.Hope it helped. regards Hare Rama Krishna On 13 Mar 2007 08:42:18 -0700, neurostro <neurostro > wrote: Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Namaskar Rafal Ji I am a slow and silent learner of jyotish. i hope your guidence to enlighten my soul. Could these maraka sthana principle also applicable to namasa chart. regards vishal sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Neuro , Namaskar > -- ---- > Pray to Lord Vivasvan. > > > -- ---- > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz,* > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > neurostro napisa?(a): > > > > Respected Gurujans, > > > > I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in > > Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. > > > > Regards > > Neurostro > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Why did you suggest Vivasvan, the Aditya for 3 rd house is Mitra? Thanks and regards Sharat - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:14 PM Re: remedy for guru in MKS II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.comneurostro napisał(a): Respected Gurujans,I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru inMarana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house.RegardsNeurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, If this happens in Navamsa Dhanu lagna( Ju in MKS in 3 H), how do the significations change? This means that the attitude towards relationship(Lagna) is like' dying' and there is destruction of 4H, which signifies the work place of the spouse? Is the remedy similar to the one applicable in rasi chart? Can you please clarify this, thanks Regards Sharatsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> II hraum namah adityaya II> Dear Jyotisha's , Namaskar> ------> Please allow me to share what /*Sanjay Rath*/ wrote in the past about it:> > The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does > cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for > Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for > Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases.> > *Dhanus Lagna*> > Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the > Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. > These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules > properties, houses, mother etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Sharat , Namaskar Yes, but there are more rules, like avastha and bhavakaraka in kona to Surya or Karyabhava. Gem of fifth lord in D10 improve career situation, but see how this graha is working in D1. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Sharat napisał(a): Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Namaskar, I understand what you are saying. Thus MKS may also be seen from the Karaka of the varga like in Dasamsa this will be from 10H; Mercury , Mars in 4H or Sun in 9H will be in MKS. Do you think this is also remedied in the same way by using the the relevant Surya form? Thanks and regards Sharat ----- Original Message ----- Rafal Gendarz To: sohamsa Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Re: remedy for guru in MKS II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Sharat , Namaskar In one mail of Sanjay Ji He says that He will wait with teaching MKS in Varga's altough in some of His books He use this in the same way as in the D1. So word dying must be placed in specific area dominated by Varga, because in Navamsa Lagna doesnt say (there are other schools) about health/prana/place of stay, but about attitude in marriage, and what one wants/expect from sambandha's. >From the other side You can see MKS from 7H in D9 to see obstacles in getting married. Sanjay Ji described Surya in 6H and Venus in 12H in His lecture. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Sharat napisał(a): Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, If this happens in Navamsa Dhanu lagna( Ju in MKS in 3 H), how do the significations change? This means that the attitude towards relationship(Lagna) is like' dying' and there is destruction of 4H, which signifies the work place of the spouse? Is the remedy similar to the one applicable in rasi chart? Can you please clarify this, thanks Regards Sharat sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Jyotisha's , Namaskar > ------ > Please allow me to share what /*Sanjay Rath*/ wrote in the past about it: > > The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does > cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for > Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for > Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases. > > *Dhanus Lagna* > > Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the > Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. > These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules > properties, houses, mother etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Sharat , Namaskar In one mail of Sanjay Ji He says that He will wait with teaching MKS in Varga's altough in some of His books He use this in the same way as in the D1. So word dying must be placed in specific area dominated by Varga, because in Navamsa Lagna doesnt say (there are other schools) about health/prana/place of stay, but about attitude in marriage, and what one wants/expect from sambandha's. From the other side You can see MKS from 7H in D9 to see obstacles in getting married. Sanjay Ji described Surya in 6H and Venus in 12H in His lecture. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Sharat napisał(a): Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, If this happens in Navamsa Dhanu lagna( Ju in MKS in 3 H), how do the significations change? This means that the attitude towards relationship(Lagna) is like' dying' and there is destruction of 4H, which signifies the work place of the spouse? Is the remedy similar to the one applicable in rasi chart? Can you please clarify this, thanks Regards Sharat sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Jyotisha's , Namaskar > ------ > Please allow me to share what /*Sanjay Rath*/ wrote in the past about it: > > The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does > cause Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for > Dhanus lagna and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for > Meena Lagna. I will discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases. > > *Dhanus Lagna* > > Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the > Marana Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. > These houses rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules > properties, houses, mother etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Sharat , Namaskar Because of Bhava Karaka. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Sharat napisał(a): Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Why did you suggest Vivasvan, the Aditya for 3 rd house is Mitra? Thanks and regards Sharat ----- Original Message ----- Rafal Gendarz To: sohamsa Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: Re: remedy for guru in MKS II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com neurostro napisał(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Odd sign lagna – Bhaga Even sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Dear Rafalji, Namaskar Thank you for your reply. Thank you not only for your suggestion to pray Lord Vivasvan but also for the explanation with examples. If i am not wrong then the Jyotish Guru you were talking about is Mr. Sarajit Poddar and the lady in your example has been mentioned in one of your article (about change in residence). I have been reading all your articles and thus want to thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I will certainly start praying Lord Vivasvan. by the way, i want know whether there is any specific method of praying Lord Vivasvan because i am already praying Sun God by offering water to him everyday. Regards Neurostro sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Neuro , Namaskar > ------ > Pray to Lord Vivasvan. > > > ------ > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz,* > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > neurostro napisa?(a): > > > > Respected Gurujans, > > > > I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in > > Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. > > > > Regards > > Neurostro > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case). The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Odd sign lagna – Bhaga Even sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Thank You for Your kind words. Yes, this is Sarajit Poddar and this is example from Sanjay Rath. Nice to hear about Your Surya worship, try Vivasvan mantra with Ghrini beeja. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com neurostro napisał(a): Dear Rafalji, Namaskar Thank you for your reply. Thank you not only for your suggestion to pray Lord Vivasvan but also for the explanation with examples. If i am not wrong then the Jyotish Guru you were talking about is Mr. Sarajit Poddar and the lady in your example has been mentioned in one of your article (about change in residence). I have been reading all your articles and thus want to thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I will certainly start praying Lord Vivasvan. by the way, i want know whether there is any specific method of praying Lord Vivasvan because i am already praying Sun God by offering water to him everyday. Regards Neurostro sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Neuro , Namaskar > ------------------------- > Pray to Lord Vivasvan. > > > ------------------------- > Regards, > *Rafal Gendarz,* > www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > neurostro napisa?(a): > > > > Respected Gurujans, > > > > I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in > > Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. > > > > Regards > > Neurostro > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste In which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment. According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-)) What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case). The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Odd sign lagna – Bhaga Even sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Neurostro Namste i want know whether there is any specific method of praying Lord Vivasvan because i am already praying Sun God by offering water to him everyday. Regards Neurostro That’s a good start. Brihaspati is also considered one of the Adityas, so sugar is a good addition. Love, Swee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal and Swee, The Surya Aditya list has now become confusing. Sanjay ji has used two descriptions. One is based on Rasi signs and Houses, the chart of which I had sent earlier, from his Aditya lecture. In this Dhata signifies Meena rasi/12H and Vishnu signifies Kumbha/11H and so on. In one of his lectures Sanjay ji describes the 9 names of Surya as per the Digchakra and says that as per Geeta and Sri Krishna, this form Surya will bring health and prosperity. This list is the same as which Rafal has circulated:Su-Surya, Ve-Ravi, Ma-Vivasvan and so on. I presume that this is the one we can use for MKS planets. Which form is to be used when, that is the crux ? Please advise. Regards Sharat - Swee Chan Sohamsa Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:28 AM Re: remedy for guru in MKS Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,NamasteIn which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment.According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-))What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love,Swee II hraum namah adityaya IIDear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case).The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards,Rafal Gendarz,www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal,Namaste Odd sign lagna – BhagaEven sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru inMarana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. RegardsNeurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hare Rama Krshna Dear Sarat, May I jump here ? There is nothing to confuse. One is Dwadasa Aditya, the 12 forms of Sun in the Zodiac, while the other one (comes from Aditya Hridayam Strotra- Krishna to Arjuna) is 9 Graha as GIVERS of animated bodies. Sun is the karaka for self, hence we take lord of the Sun sign for own protection and prosperity. Spouse too come from Bhagavan finally, so I think we can pray for 7th lord from Venus for the spouse. Best Wishes Karu - Sharat sohamsa Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:03 PM Re: remedy for guru in MKS Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal and Swee, The Surya Aditya list has now become confusing. Sanjay ji has used two descriptions. One is based on Rasi signs and Houses, the chart of which I had sent earlier, from his Aditya lecture. In this Dhata signifies Meena rasi/12H and Vishnu signifies Kumbha/11H and so on. In one of his lectures Sanjay ji describes the 9 names of Surya as per the Digchakra and says that as per Geeta and Sri Krishna, this form Surya will bring health and prosperity. This list is the same as which Rafal has circulated:Su-Surya, Ve-Ravi, Ma-Vivasvan and so on. I presume that this is the one we can use for MKS planets. Which form is to be used when, that is the crux ? Please advise. Regards Sharat - Swee Chan Sohamsa Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:28 AM Re: remedy for guru in MKS Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,NamasteIn which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment.According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-))What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love,Swee II hraum namah adityaya IIDear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case).The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards,Rafal Gendarz,www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal,Namaste Odd sign lagna – BhagaEven sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru inMarana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. RegardsNeurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar Yes, Hram is correct one in this case, altough Hraum is what Sanjay Ji told us for promote inteligence. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste In which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment. According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-)) What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case). The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Odd sign lagna – Bhaga Even sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> ..com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 On Gurave Namah Dear Sharat, Namaste According to Padma purana, Sristhikhanda 78.22, Lord Shiva said, Every form of ours is Great and removes obstacles and diseases and helps to accomplish all objects. The list of the gocara Aditya is different; verse 23 This uncensured Aditya divided himself into 12 forms due to the difference in time. 24-26 Mitra in the month of Margashirasha, Visnu in Pausa, Bhanu in Caitra etc. v. 28 – He who recites this everyday incurs no sin nor does he contact an disease nor does he suffer from poverty etc. v. 30 –33 gives the stotra. v.50 gives the mantra “om hrAM hrIM name of Aditya, then namaH” when it is recited, diseases, cruel planets (Mars, Saturn, Rahu and associated Mercury and the dark side of the Moon) causing grief will be ineffective. v.55 what is the use of many other sacred texts or very lengthy stotras (hymns)? v. 59 – 61 – Recitation of this once, twice or three times daily in the presence of the Sun will give desired fruits (phala). 63 – 65 One who chants this in the presence of a brahmana at the time of appeasing a planet or at the time of meals served (brahmin bhijan) or worship; or one who recites or causes it to be recited in front of yogis, brahmins or in front of deities will be honoured in Vaikuntha. His numerous names are again different, though His form is really the plenary portions of Indra and Vishnu – read the story of Garuda and his relationship with both Indra and Vishnu to get a better understanding... The list you gave is according to the chandas where Rsis play a vital role in the matter of the Gayatri. love, Swee Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal and Swee, The Surya Aditya list has now become confusing. Sanjay ji has used two descriptions. One is based on Rasi signs and Houses, the chart of which I had sent earlier, from his Aditya lecture. In this Dhata signifies Meena rasi/12H and Vishnu signifies Kumbha/11H and so on. In one of his lectures Sanjay ji describes the 9 names of Surya as per the Digchakra and says that as per Geeta and Sri Krishna, this form Surya will bring health and prosperity. This list is the same as which Rafal has circulated:Su-Surya, Ve-Ravi, Ma-Vivasvan and so on. I presume that this is the one we can use for MKS planets. Which form is to be used when, that is the crux ? Please advise. Regards Sharat - Swee Chan <sweechan Sohamsa <sohamsa > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:28 AM Re: remedy for guru in MKS Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste In which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment. According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-)) What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case). The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Odd sign lagna – Bhaga Even sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Which Vayu are you activating? Hanuman or Dattatreya and in which mode? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar Yes, Hram is correct one in this case, altough Hraum is what Sanjay Ji told us for promote inteligence. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste In which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment. According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-)) What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case). The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Odd sign lagna – Bhaga Even sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Hare Ram Krishna Dear Swee,Rafal and Visti, Namaskar This is very enlightening and I shall try and find the original source for further understanding. These explain the gocara Adityas and the mantras of Hram hrim Aditya, for use as you explain. From the Aditya Hridaya strotra we get mantras like Grihni Suryaye namah for overall prosperity and health. As per Sanjay ji's lecture, the relevant Grihini mantra be used depending upon the planet in the Lagna of Rasi chart My Q was regarding use of mantras for appeasing MKS planets. We need to worship the karaka of the bhava as Sun form. Should we use the 12 Adityas as per Rasi bhava like if Ju is in 3H, use Mitra OR we use the Surya form as per Digchakra- 9 forms of Surya and the Grihini mantras like for Ju in 3H pray to Vivaswan. I hope I am on the right track here. Please advise. Regards Sharat - Swee Chan Sohamsa Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:24 PM Re: remedy for guru in MKS On Gurave NamahDear Sharat,NamasteAccording to Padma purana, Sristhikhanda 78.22, Lord Shiva said, Every form of ours is Great and removes obstacles and diseases and helps to accomplish all objects. The list of the gocara Aditya is different; verse 23 This uncensured Aditya divided himself into 12 forms due to the difference in time.24-26 Mitra in the month of Margashirasha, Visnu in Pausa, Bhanu in Caitra etc.v. 28 – He who recites this everyday incurs no sin nor does he contact an disease nor does he suffer from poverty etc.v. 30 –33 gives the stotra.v.50 gives the mantra “om hrAM hrIM name of Aditya, then namaH” when it is recited, diseases, cruel planets (Mars, Saturn, Rahu and associated Mercury and the dark side of the Moon) causing grief will be ineffective.v.55 what is the use of many other sacred texts or very lengthy stotras (hymns)?v. 59 – 61 – Recitation of this once, twice or three times daily in the presence of the Sun will give desired fruits (phala).63 – 65 One who chants this in the presence of a brahmana at the time of appeasing a planet or at the time of meals served (brahmin bhijan) or worship; or one who recites or causes it to be recited in front of yogis, brahmins or in front of deities will be honoured in Vaikuntha.His numerous names are again different, though His form is really the plenary portions of Indra and Vishnu – read the story of Garuda and his relationship with both Indra and Vishnu to get a better understanding...The list you gave is according to the chandas where Rsis play a vital role in the matter of the Gayatri. love,SweeHare Ram KrishnaDear Rafal and Swee,The Surya Aditya list has now become confusing.Sanjay ji has used two descriptions. One is based on Rasi signs and Houses, the chart of which I had sent earlier, from his Aditya lecture. In this Dhata signifies Meena rasi/12H and Vishnu signifies Kumbha/11H and so on.In one of his lectures Sanjay ji describes the 9 names of Surya as per the Digchakra and says that as per Geeta and Sri Krishna, this form Surya will bring health and prosperity. This list is the same as which Rafal has circulated:Su-Surya, Ve-Ravi, Ma-Vivasvan and so on. I presume that this is the one we can use for MKS planets.Which form is to be used when, that is the crux ?Please advise.RegardsSharat - Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com> Sohamsa <sohamsa > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:28 AM Re: remedy for guru in MKS Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,NamasteIn which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment.According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-))What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love,Swee II hraum namah adityaya IIDear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case).The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards,Rafal Gendarz,www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal,Namaste Odd sign lagna – BhagaEven sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru inMarana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. RegardsNeurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar Vayu? Ha is akasha, Ra is agni. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Which Vayu are you activating? Hanuman or Dattatreya and in which mode? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar Yes, Hram is correct one in this case, altough Hraum is what Sanjay Ji told us for promote inteligence. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste In which context do you apply this list? The full list as provided by Kishore promotes and expands goodness of the mind (give peace of mind where religious rites are concerned) - Sun is the indicator and that goes for lagna as the first assessment. According to Padma Purana, “om hrAm hrIm (name of Aditya presiding for that Vedic month is preferable) namaH” - note the hrAm (saumya) and NOT hrauM (not sure of this and I note you are using this ;-)) What happens if the condition of the person is too pitta and you suggest “hraum” as the bija? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Swee , Namaskar I was taught to advise Surya Vesa of bhava karaka of that Bhava (in MKS case). The list was taught in Serbia 2006, still its old list which You know. Adityas Su Surya Ve Ravi Ma Vivasvan Ra Bhaga Sa Varuna Ch Mitra Me Aditya Gu Visnu Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> ..com <http://www.rohinaa.com> Swee Chan napisa³(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Namaste Odd sign lagna – Bhaga Even sign lagna - ansuman for the direction where dasamsa is concerned. What do you think? love, Swee II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Neuro , Namaskar Pray to Lord Vivasvan. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa> <http://www.rohinaa> .com <http://www.rohinaa.com> neurostro napisa³(a): Respected Gurujans, I would like to request you to please suggest me a remedy for Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana. It is in 3rd house and lord of 1st and 4th house. Regards Neurostro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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