Swami Vivekananda's Chart : A Comparative Study of Makar and Dhanu Lagna chart

January 12, 2010

Swami Vivekananda's Chart : A Comparative Study of Makar and Dhanu Lagna

chart

As a symbol of respect to great mother of Swami Vivekananda, whose

horoscope we are going to analyse in this article, I remember great

loving mother of Swami Ji and dedicate this study to Maa Bhuvaneshwari

Devi (1841-1911).

" I am indebted to my mother for the efflorescence of my knowledge " Swami

Vivekananda.

History :

In Jyotish Ratnakar by Babu DevakiNandan Singh who was Contemporary to

B SuryaNarain Rao and says that he learnt water diving in 1898, so, we

can understand that he lived and seen Swami Vivekananda's life and

work, As Babu Devakinandan himself was a graduate as well as an attorney

during british time and was a scholar of astrology, who worked whole

life dissipating bad practices in the name of astrology.

Babu Devakinandan Singh narrates that in the Swami Ji's BioGraphy which

was printed by his close friends, no birth time is mentioned, Friends

only mentioned that Swami Ji was born on 12 Jan 1863's morning, that was

the day when Makar Sankranti was celebrated in Bengal in year of 1863.

Babu Devakinandan Singh gives entire account of how he got a horoscope

of Makar Lagna and how the other Dhanu Lagna horoscope came into

existence, he has written that for the first time, Sri Ganesh Chandra

MukhoPadhaya in his book " Jeevani Sangrah " gave Swami ji's birth time

as 6.33 am, witought mentioning source how he got such a time, Life to

Dhanu lagna chart started circulating after that Jeevani Sangrah's

issue. Nobody tried to validate both the charts of swami ji.

On the day of Makar Sankranti, Makar Lagna begins at very first hour of

Sunrise, and Sun moves to Makara at noon, Now, Babu DevakiNandan Singh

puzzles what could be the lagna, a question that needs answer since last

100 yrs ?

What could be correct birth time of Swami Ji, though, Though Babu

Devakinandan is convinced that It could be Makara only but at what time

- at noon or before noon, he had no information as he got a chart with

Makar Lagna but that was without Birth Time, He has printed that Makar

Lagna chart in his book along with Dhanu lagna chart.

Late Dr Narayan Datt Srimali also in his book on astrology has given

Swami Vivekananda's horoscope with Makar Lagna, few more north Indian

astrologers take Makar lagna chart.

Swami Vivekananda was born in Shimla Pally, Calcutta at 6:33 a.m on

Monday, 12 January 1863, during the eve of Makra Sankranti, He was given

the name Narendranath Datta. His father Vishwanath Datta was an attorney

of Calcutta High Court. He was considered generous, and had a liberal

and progressive outlook in social and religious matters. His mother

Bhuvaneshwari Devi was pious and had practiced austerities and prayed to

Vireshwar Shiva of Varanasi to give her a son.

Let's check the validity of Dhanur lagna chart with Swami ji's life,

work and family back ground :

1. Father's Generosity and Extravaganza : Father was an attorney, spent

all his savings and even immovable prperty in his life time, He died

young, in age of 48, with Dhanur lagna chart you get Sun, the 9'th lord

placed in lagna, can such a superb Sun in lagna cause a father's early

death, a death that left entire family in a deprived state, a state of

ultimate poverty, when day to day meals was difficult to manage ? this

is a challenge and an open question to those Indian Vedic Astrologers

who advocate Dhanu lagna chart ? Can any astrology principle supports

Swami ji's father's death and extravaganza ???

Well, with Makar lagna chart, you get Sun in 12'th house in Dhanu, which

shows an eminent father and his extravaganza as well as his early death.

2. Mother's Influence and persona : With Dhanu lagna chart you get

Moon's affliction due to Saturn's conjunction in 10'th house and

4'th lord Jup in 11'th house, which is 8'th from 4'th house of mother,

this is not a placement for having such a superb mother with a strong

persona and a lasting influence on child, needless to underline

Saturn's aspects on 4'th house even though Saturn is conjunct with

Moon.

Well, with Makar lagna chart, you get 4'th lord mars placed in 4'th

house itself, which receives Jup's aspect from 10'th house, this clearly

signifies the superb qualities of swami ji's mother.

3. Sibling's death : Swami ji's sister died in a bad financial

condition, with Dhanu lagna chart, there is no affliction to 3rd house

whereas with Makar Lagna chart, you find Saturn who is 2nd lord also

conjuncts 7'th lord moon in 9'th house, Saturn's aspect on 3rd and

11'th houses states problems to siblings, saturn's conjunction or

aspect on moon becomes cause for sister's death, further, with Makar

lagna chart, 3rd lord Jup receives Mars's aspect thus aggravating

malefic impact.

In my own chart, moon is placed in 9'th house, aspected by Saturn from

3rd house, my one of sisters died early, There is a shloka in Shambhu

Hora Prakash saying if Moon in 9'th aspected by Saturn there will be

sister's death, Taking Dhanu lagna chart shows inadequate study of

basics given in various classics.

4. Education : With Dhanu lagna chart, you get Mars as 5'th lord in 5'th

house, which receives Jup's aspect from 11'th house, Mars in 5'th house

what sort of education gives, ask yourself, Swamiji should have been

given technical education, at least mathematics as a subject, in a clear

contrast to this, Swami Ji graduated in Arts, he was a BA, he studied -

" History, Social sciences, arts, literature, and other subjects. He was

also well versed in classical music, both vocal and instrumental and is

said to have undergone training under two ustads, Beni Gupta and Ahamad

Khan " .

Mars in 5'th can never give education and learning of music, How

Indian Vedic Astrologer justified Swami Ji's education, is a matter

of discovery.

With Makar lagna chart, You get, Venus the 5'th and 10'th lord's

conjunction with 9'th lord merc in lagna, this has given him education

of literature, arts and music.

5. Sports and Sickness : With Dhanu lagna, you get no supportive

influence for his love for sports on 4'th, 5'th and 6'th houses, but

with Makar lagna chart, you get a vargottama lagna, 3rd lord Jup in

10'th house and from 10'th house Jup is aspecting 4'th and 6'th

house, moreover, 6'th lord is moved to Lagna, this is well known

configuration for one to be good in sports and yoga. It has another

aspect also, 6'th lord though makes one interested in physical exercises

and yoga but it gives illness too, further, Saturn from 9'th house

aspects 6'th house, clearly indicating, long bout of sickness.

6. Spirituality and Poorva Punya : It's seen by his guru Thakur

Ramakrishna Paramhansha that Swami Ji is, infact, a Shapt Rishi ( One of

great 7 sages of Indian Spiritual Mythology) with Dhanu lagna chart,

there is no connection between 5'th and 9'th houses and their lord,

except for Sun who is 9'th lord rather, in Dhanu Lagna chart, you

get great temptation and binding to materialistic achievements as Jup is

in 11'th house is infamous for insatiable lust for materialistic gains.

With Makar Lagna chart, you get, 5'th lord Venus and 9'th lord Merc in

lagna itself, which is a rarest of the rare configuration, furthermore,

Venus is 10'th lord also, 10'th lord's placement in lagna makes one a

Karma Yogi, Count more, in Makar lagna chart, Lagna lord Saturn is gone

to 9'th house of religion and Guru's blessings, There it get's

conjunction of Moon to make it an exceptional spiritual chart. Mind it,

8'th house and 8'th lord has no significant role in spiritual

achievements, It's limited to take one into maya of mysticism whereas in

spirituality you need to overcome maya.

And above all, with Makar lagna chart, you get ketu in 5'th house,

making swami ji a siddha mantra sadhaka with Mars in 4'th leading

him to kundalini awakening and also giving him qualities to think deep

and look within before making an expression. Jup's aspect on 2nd

gave him both VakShuddhi and VakSiddhi.

7. World Tour and Lectures : This has happened in Jup's period, in

Makar lagna, Sun is placed in 12'th, Jup the 3rd and 12'th lord,

placed in 10'th house of karma, because of Jup's 3rd house's

lordship, he became greatest orator of modern times and because of 12'th

house lordship, he went on world tour to spread true vedic spirituality

in the form of Vedanta.

With Dhanu lagna chart, astrology finds no connection with such a world

tour and lectures.

8. Guru's Death : With Makar lagna chart, It was Rahu's dasa and

Rahu's transit on his 9'th house, when Guru Ramkrishna died, his

father's death also happened in Rahu's period .

9. Celibacy Vs Poligamy : With Dhanu Lagna chart, You get a clear

combination for multiple marriages, Swami ji's dhanu lagna chart is

mockery of Vedic astrology and Swami Ji's life. In Dhanu lagna chart,

You get 7'th and 10'th lord mercury is gone to 2nd house, this gives

relationship with multiple women, morever, this Merc is conjunct with

Venus, the 11'th lord of desires (Kamana). How astrologers could see

celibacy and ignore presence of polygamy in Swami Ji's Dhanu Lagna chart

is a question mark in astrologer's ability to read and understand a

chart.

Now, let's have a serious look at Makar lagna chart, Mars the 4'th lord,

aspects 7'th house, and 7'th lord moon, who is conjunct with Saturn

which is lagna lord and this combination occurs in 9'th house, So, he

remained a brahmchari and It has made him a son of divine mother Kali.

10. Business Empire Vs Renunciation : Can you answer, when you find

11'th and 10'th lord in 2nd house, is it a combination for making a

business enterprise or renunciation, what combination find in rich

business man's chart.

With Dhanu Lagna chart, Swami ji get's 7'th and 10'th lord Merc conjunct

with 11'th lord Venus, this combination makes him a business man, a

trader, Further to that, Jup is in libra (tula) which is lagna and 4'th

lord, placed in 11'th house, So, should he be not a business magnet like

Bill Gates, isn't it, This underlines a big n vivid question mark in

abilities of those astrologers who declare Swami ji was born with dhanu

lagna. Hardly, there is any considerable combination present making

Swami Vivekananda a saint, Have you ever seen a person with Rahu in

12'th becomes a sage, where is renunciation present in dhanu lagna

chart ??

Now, Look at Makar Lagna chart, the Ketu in 5'th and Mars in 4'th

forming Ruchaka Mahapurush Yoga, Ketu as well as Mars are required to

ignite the divine serpent fire of Kundalini with the blessing of a

great Guru Swami Ji could ignite his Kundalini, It's noteworthy that

Jup aspect this mars from 10'th house and has 12'th lordship also, Next

comes, Lagna and 9'th lord's interchange in 9'th and lagna.

I trust, everybody w'd come forward and w'd contribute for getting a

correct birth time of Swami Ji, perhapse that w'd be a homage from

astrologers on his birth anniversary which falls today.

January 13, 2010

Dear (Utkal) jee,

Swami-jee died many decades ago! Yogananda-jee died many decades after him. Even

Maharshi Mahesh Yogi died after all those claims about flying yogis somehow

elevating the consciousness of the world and so on!

All the 6000 or whatever " critical number " MMY was quoted to have claimed --

jumping/flying yogis with their gamma 32 Hertz cerebral rhythm (that I had

written about long ago on Compuserve) FAILED to thwart 9/11 no matter what or

who led the world to that!

The world is very different now from the days and teachings of Vivekananda or

other '-nandas'!

There is a problem with jyotishis focusing too much on celebrities! Two

problems, actually:

1) They get too tied up with figuring out the time of birth of celebrity!

2) They forget that most jyotishis would most probably never do a reading for a

celebrity! But the common person for whom the yogas while existing may not

fructify!

The NORMAL jyotish must, therefore, focus more on the bhangas! (not the cannabis

kind!)

Rohiniranjan

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

> Swami Vivekananda's Chart : A Comparative Study of Makar and Dhanu Lagna

> chart

>

> As a symbol of respect to great mother of Swami Vivekananda, whose

> horoscope we are going to analyse in this article, I remember great

> loving mother of Swami Ji and dedicate this study to Maa Bhuvaneshwari

> Devi (1841-1911).

>

> " I am indebted to my mother for the efflorescence of my knowledge " Swami

> Vivekananda.

>

> History :

>

> In Jyotish Ratnakar by Babu DevakiNandan Singh who was Contemporary to

> B SuryaNarain Rao and says that he learnt water diving in 1898, so, we

> can understand that he lived and seen Swami Vivekananda's life and

> work, As Babu Devakinandan himself was a graduate as well as an attorney

> during british time and was a scholar of astrology, who worked whole

> life dissipating bad practices in the name of astrology.

>

> Babu Devakinandan Singh narrates that in the Swami Ji's BioGraphy which

> was printed by his close friends, no birth time is mentioned, Friends

> only mentioned that Swami Ji was born on 12 Jan 1863's morning, that was

> the day when Makar Sankranti was celebrated in Bengal in year of 1863.

>

> Babu Devakinandan Singh gives entire account of how he got a horoscope

> of Makar Lagna and how the other Dhanu Lagna horoscope came into

> existence, he has written that for the first time, Sri Ganesh Chandra

> MukhoPadhaya in his book " Jeevani Sangrah " gave Swami ji's birth time

> as 6.33 am, witought mentioning source how he got such a time, Life to

> Dhanu lagna chart started circulating after that Jeevani Sangrah's

> issue. Nobody tried to validate both the charts of swami ji.

>

> On the day of Makar Sankranti, Makar Lagna begins at very first hour of

> Sunrise, and Sun moves to Makara at noon, Now, Babu DevakiNandan Singh

> puzzles what could be the lagna, a question that needs answer since last

> 100 yrs ?

>

> What could be correct birth time of Swami Ji, though, Though Babu

> Devakinandan is convinced that It could be Makara only but at what time

> - at noon or before noon, he had no information as he got a chart with

> Makar Lagna but that was without Birth Time, He has printed that Makar

> Lagna chart in his book along with Dhanu lagna chart.

>

> Late Dr Narayan Datt Srimali also in his book on astrology has given

> Swami Vivekananda's horoscope with Makar Lagna, few more north Indian

> astrologers take Makar lagna chart.

>

> Swami Vivekananda was born in Shimla Pally, Calcutta at 6:33 a.m on

> Monday, 12 January 1863, during the eve of Makra Sankranti, He was given

> the name Narendranath Datta. His father Vishwanath Datta was an attorney

> of Calcutta High Court. He was considered generous, and had a liberal

> and progressive outlook in social and religious matters. His mother

> Bhuvaneshwari Devi was pious and had practiced austerities and prayed to

> Vireshwar Shiva of Varanasi to give her a son.

>

> Let's check the validity of Dhanur lagna chart with Swami ji's life,

> work and family back ground :

>

> 1. Father's Generosity and Extravaganza : Father was an attorney, spent

> all his savings and even immovable prperty in his life time, He died

> young, in age of 48, with Dhanur lagna chart you get Sun, the 9'th lord

> placed in lagna, can such a superb Sun in lagna cause a father's early

> death, a death that left entire family in a deprived state, a state of

> ultimate poverty, when day to day meals was difficult to manage ? this

> is a challenge and an open question to those Indian Vedic Astrologers

> who advocate Dhanu lagna chart ? Can any astrology principle supports

> Swami ji's father's death and extravaganza ???

>

> Well, with Makar lagna chart, you get Sun in 12'th house in Dhanu, which

> shows an eminent father and his extravaganza as well as his early death.

>

> 2. Mother's Influence and persona : With Dhanu lagna chart you get

> Moon's affliction due to Saturn's conjunction in 10'th house and

> 4'th lord Jup in 11'th house, which is 8'th from 4'th house of mother,

> this is not a placement for having such a superb mother with a strong

> persona and a lasting influence on child, needless to underline

> Saturn's aspects on 4'th house even though Saturn is conjunct with

> Moon.

>

> Well, with Makar lagna chart, you get 4'th lord mars placed in 4'th

> house itself, which receives Jup's aspect from 10'th house, this clearly

> signifies the superb qualities of swami ji's mother.

>

> 3. Sibling's death : Swami ji's sister died in a bad financial

> condition, with Dhanu lagna chart, there is no affliction to 3rd house

> whereas with Makar Lagna chart, you find Saturn who is 2nd lord also

> conjuncts 7'th lord moon in 9'th house, Saturn's aspect on 3rd and

> 11'th houses states problems to siblings, saturn's conjunction or

> aspect on moon becomes cause for sister's death, further, with Makar

> lagna chart, 3rd lord Jup receives Mars's aspect thus aggravating

> malefic impact.

>

> In my own chart, moon is placed in 9'th house, aspected by Saturn from

> 3rd house, my one of sisters died early, There is a shloka in Shambhu

> Hora Prakash saying if Moon in 9'th aspected by Saturn there will be

> sister's death, Taking Dhanu lagna chart shows inadequate study of

> basics given in various classics.

>

> 4. Education : With Dhanu lagna chart, you get Mars as 5'th lord in 5'th

> house, which receives Jup's aspect from 11'th house, Mars in 5'th house

> what sort of education gives, ask yourself, Swamiji should have been

> given technical education, at least mathematics as a subject, in a clear

> contrast to this, Swami Ji graduated in Arts, he was a BA, he studied -

> " History, Social sciences, arts, literature, and other subjects. He was

> also well versed in classical music, both vocal and instrumental and is

> said to have undergone training under two ustads, Beni Gupta and Ahamad

> Khan " .

>

> Mars in 5'th can never give education and learning of music, How

> Indian Vedic Astrologer justified Swami Ji's education, is a matter

> of discovery.

>

> With Makar lagna chart, You get, Venus the 5'th and 10'th lord's

> conjunction with 9'th lord merc in lagna, this has given him education

> of literature, arts and music.

>

> 5. Sports and Sickness : With Dhanu lagna, you get no supportive

> influence for his love for sports on 4'th, 5'th and 6'th houses, but

> with Makar lagna chart, you get a vargottama lagna, 3rd lord Jup in

> 10'th house and from 10'th house Jup is aspecting 4'th and 6'th

> house, moreover, 6'th lord is moved to Lagna, this is well known

> configuration for one to be good in sports and yoga. It has another

> aspect also, 6'th lord though makes one interested in physical exercises

> and yoga but it gives illness too, further, Saturn from 9'th house

> aspects 6'th house, clearly indicating, long bout of sickness.

>

> 6. Spirituality and Poorva Punya : It's seen by his guru Thakur

> Ramakrishna Paramhansha that Swami Ji is, infact, a Shapt Rishi ( One of

> great 7 sages of Indian Spiritual Mythology) with Dhanu lagna chart,

> there is no connection between 5'th and 9'th houses and their lord,

> except for Sun who is 9'th lord rather, in Dhanu Lagna chart, you

> get great temptation and binding to materialistic achievements as Jup is

> in 11'th house is infamous for insatiable lust for materialistic gains.

>

> With Makar Lagna chart, you get, 5'th lord Venus and 9'th lord Merc in

> lagna itself, which is a rarest of the rare configuration, furthermore,

> Venus is 10'th lord also, 10'th lord's placement in lagna makes one a

> Karma Yogi, Count more, in Makar lagna chart, Lagna lord Saturn is gone

> to 9'th house of religion and Guru's blessings, There it get's

> conjunction of Moon to make it an exceptional spiritual chart. Mind it,

> 8'th house and 8'th lord has no significant role in spiritual

> achievements, It's limited to take one into maya of mysticism whereas in

> spirituality you need to overcome maya.

>

> And above all, with Makar lagna chart, you get ketu in 5'th house,

> making swami ji a siddha mantra sadhaka with Mars in 4'th leading

> him to kundalini awakening and also giving him qualities to think deep

> and look within before making an expression. Jup's aspect on 2nd

> gave him both VakShuddhi and VakSiddhi.

>

> 7. World Tour and Lectures : This has happened in Jup's period, in

> Makar lagna, Sun is placed in 12'th, Jup the 3rd and 12'th lord,

> placed in 10'th house of karma, because of Jup's 3rd house's

> lordship, he became greatest orator of modern times and because of 12'th

> house lordship, he went on world tour to spread true vedic spirituality

> in the form of Vedanta.

>

> With Dhanu lagna chart, astrology finds no connection with such a world

> tour and lectures.

>

> 8. Guru's Death : With Makar lagna chart, It was Rahu's dasa and

> Rahu's transit on his 9'th house, when Guru Ramkrishna died, his

> father's death also happened in Rahu's period .

>

> 9. Celibacy Vs Poligamy : With Dhanu Lagna chart, You get a clear

> combination for multiple marriages, Swami ji's dhanu lagna chart is

> mockery of Vedic astrology and Swami Ji's life. In Dhanu lagna chart,

> You get 7'th and 10'th lord mercury is gone to 2nd house, this gives

> relationship with multiple women, morever, this Merc is conjunct with

> Venus, the 11'th lord of desires (Kamana). How astrologers could see

> celibacy and ignore presence of polygamy in Swami Ji's Dhanu Lagna chart

> is a question mark in astrologer's ability to read and understand a

> chart.

>

> Now, let's have a serious look at Makar lagna chart, Mars the 4'th lord,

> aspects 7'th house, and 7'th lord moon, who is conjunct with Saturn

> which is lagna lord and this combination occurs in 9'th house, So, he

> remained a brahmchari and It has made him a son of divine mother Kali.

>

> 10. Business Empire Vs Renunciation : Can you answer, when you find

> 11'th and 10'th lord in 2nd house, is it a combination for making a

> business enterprise or renunciation, what combination find in rich

> business man's chart.

>

> With Dhanu Lagna chart, Swami ji get's 7'th and 10'th lord Merc conjunct

> with 11'th lord Venus, this combination makes him a business man, a

> trader, Further to that, Jup is in libra (tula) which is lagna and 4'th

> lord, placed in 11'th house, So, should he be not a business magnet like

> Bill Gates, isn't it, This underlines a big n vivid question mark in

> abilities of those astrologers who declare Swami ji was born with dhanu

> lagna. Hardly, there is any considerable combination present making

> Swami Vivekananda a saint, Have you ever seen a person with Rahu in

> 12'th becomes a sage, where is renunciation present in dhanu lagna

> chart ??

>

> Now, Look at Makar Lagna chart, the Ketu in 5'th and Mars in 4'th

> forming Ruchaka Mahapurush Yoga, Ketu as well as Mars are required to

> ignite the divine serpent fire of Kundalini with the blessing of a

> great Guru Swami Ji could ignite his Kundalini, It's noteworthy that

> Jup aspect this mars from 10'th house and has 12'th lordship also, Next

> comes, Lagna and 9'th lord's interchange in 9'th and lagna.

>

> I trust, everybody w'd come forward and w'd contribute for getting a

> correct birth time of Swami Ji, perhapse that w'd be a homage from

> astrologers on his birth anniversary which falls today.

>

January 13, 2010

As we are trying to find out true birth time and lagna of Swami Ji, with

Makar Lagna, lagna falls around 1 degree, if you take birth time around

6.30 - 7 am, his 8'th lord Sun goes to 12'th house, this shows short

life to Swami Ji. On the day of death, 4 july 1902, It was Ekadashi

when his Lagna as well as 2nd lord Saturn was conjunct with 12'th lord

Jup, both were retro and Rahu was transiting Libra his 10'th house,

whereas, Mars was in conjunction with his 7'th lord Moon and Venus on

Taurus, pls note that 7'th lord moon was in exaltation since last night

to morning when he made up his mind to leave this world.

http://www.uttishthata.org/life-teachings/vivekananda%E2%80%99s-maha-sam\

adhi/

<http://www.uttishthata.org/life-teachings/vivekananda%E2%80%99s-maha-sa\

madhi/>

He entered into mahasamadhi with a belief that there will be more

Vivekananda as and when humanity w'd need them.

regards,

Utkal

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

> Swami Vivekananda's Chart : A Comparative Study of Makar and Dhanu

Lagna

> chart

>

> As a symbol of respect to great mother of Swami Vivekananda, whose

> horoscope we are going to analyse in this article, I remember great

> loving mother of Swami Ji and dedicate this study to Maa Bhuvaneshwari

> Devi (1841-1911).

>

> " I am indebted to my mother for the efflorescence of my knowledge "

Swami

> Vivekananda.

>

> History :

>

> In Jyotish Ratnakar by Babu DevakiNandan Singh who was Contemporary to

> B SuryaNarain Rao and says that he learnt water diving in 1898, so, we

> can understand that he lived and seen Swami Vivekananda's life and

> work, As Babu Devakinandan himself was a graduate as well as an

attorney

> during british time and was a scholar of astrology, who worked whole

> life dissipating bad practices in the name of astrology.

>

> Babu Devakinandan Singh narrates that in the Swami Ji's BioGraphy

which

> was printed by his close friends, no birth time is mentioned, Friends

> only mentioned that Swami Ji was born on 12 Jan 1863's morning, that

was

> the day when Makar Sankranti was celebrated in Bengal in year of 1863.

>

> Babu Devakinandan Singh gives entire account of how he got a horoscope

> of Makar Lagna and how the other Dhanu Lagna horoscope came into

> existence, he has written that for the first time, Sri Ganesh Chandra

> MukhoPadhaya in his book " Jeevani Sangrah " gave Swami ji's birth time

> as 6.33 am, witought mentioning source how he got such a time, Life to

> Dhanu lagna chart started circulating after that Jeevani Sangrah's

> issue. Nobody tried to validate both the charts of swami ji.

>

> On the day of Makar Sankranti, Makar Lagna begins at very first hour

of

> Sunrise, and Sun moves to Makara at noon, Now, Babu DevakiNandan Singh

> puzzles what could be the lagna, a question that needs answer since

last

> 100 yrs ?

>

> What could be correct birth time of Swami Ji, though, Though Babu

> Devakinandan is convinced that It could be Makara only but at what

time

> - at noon or before noon, he had no information as he got a chart with

> Makar Lagna but that was without Birth Time, He has printed that Makar

> Lagna chart in his book along with Dhanu lagna chart.

>

> Late Dr Narayan Datt Srimali also in his book on astrology has given

> Swami Vivekananda's horoscope with Makar Lagna, few more north Indian

> astrologers take Makar lagna chart.

>

> Swami Vivekananda was born in Shimla Pally, Calcutta at 6:33 a.m on

> Monday, 12 January 1863, during the eve of Makra Sankranti, He was

given

> the name Narendranath Datta. His father Vishwanath Datta was an

attorney

> of Calcutta High Court. He was considered generous, and had a liberal

> and progressive outlook in social and religious matters. His mother

> Bhuvaneshwari Devi was pious and had practiced austerities and prayed

to

> Vireshwar Shiva of Varanasi to give her a son.

>

> Let's check the validity of Dhanur lagna chart with Swami ji's life,

> work and family back ground :

>

> 1. Father's Generosity and Extravaganza : Father was an attorney,

spent

> all his savings and even immovable prperty in his life time, He died

> young, in age of 48, with Dhanur lagna chart you get Sun, the 9'th

lord

> placed in lagna, can such a superb Sun in lagna cause a father's early

> death, a death that left entire family in a deprived state, a state of

> ultimate poverty, when day to day meals was difficult to manage ? this

> is a challenge and an open question to those Indian Vedic Astrologers

> who advocate Dhanu lagna chart ? Can any astrology principle supports

> Swami ji's father's death and extravaganza ???

>

> Well, with Makar lagna chart, you get Sun in 12'th house in Dhanu,

which

> shows an eminent father and his extravaganza as well as his early

death.

>

> 2. Mother's Influence and persona : With Dhanu lagna chart you get

> Moon's affliction due to Saturn's conjunction in 10'th house and

> 4'th lord Jup in 11'th house, which is 8'th from 4'th house of mother,

> this is not a placement for having such a superb mother with a strong

> persona and a lasting influence on child, needless to underline

> Saturn's aspects on 4'th house even though Saturn is conjunct with

> Moon.

>

> Well, with Makar lagna chart, you get 4'th lord mars placed in 4'th

> house itself, which receives Jup's aspect from 10'th house, this

clearly

> signifies the superb qualities of swami ji's mother.

>

> 3. Sibling's death : Swami ji's sister died in a bad financial

> condition, with Dhanu lagna chart, there is no affliction to 3rd house

> whereas with Makar Lagna chart, you find Saturn who is 2nd lord also

> conjuncts 7'th lord moon in 9'th house, Saturn's aspect on 3rd and

> 11'th houses states problems to siblings, saturn's conjunction or

> aspect on moon becomes cause for sister's death, further, with Makar

> lagna chart, 3rd lord Jup receives Mars's aspect thus aggravating

> malefic impact.

>

> In my own chart, moon is placed in 9'th house, aspected by Saturn from

> 3rd house, my one of sisters died early, There is a shloka in Shambhu

> Hora Prakash saying if Moon in 9'th aspected by Saturn there will be

> sister's death, Taking Dhanu lagna chart shows inadequate study of

> basics given in various classics.

>

> 4. Education : With Dhanu lagna chart, you get Mars as 5'th lord in

5'th

> house, which receives Jup's aspect from 11'th house, Mars in 5'th

house

> what sort of education gives, ask yourself, Swamiji should have been

> given technical education, at least mathematics as a subject, in a

clear

> contrast to this, Swami Ji graduated in Arts, he was a BA, he studied

-

> " History, Social sciences, arts, literature, and other subjects. He

was

> also well versed in classical music, both vocal and instrumental and

is

> said to have undergone training under two ustads, Beni Gupta and

Ahamad

> Khan " .

>

> Mars in 5'th can never give education and learning of music, How

> Indian Vedic Astrologer justified Swami Ji's education, is a matter

> of discovery.

>

> With Makar lagna chart, You get, Venus the 5'th and 10'th lord's

> conjunction with 9'th lord merc in lagna, this has given him education

> of literature, arts and music.

>

> 5. Sports and Sickness : With Dhanu lagna, you get no supportive

> influence for his love for sports on 4'th, 5'th and 6'th houses, but

> with Makar lagna chart, you get a vargottama lagna, 3rd lord Jup in

> 10'th house and from 10'th house Jup is aspecting 4'th and 6'th

> house, moreover, 6'th lord is moved to Lagna, this is well known

> configuration for one to be good in sports and yoga. It has another

> aspect also, 6'th lord though makes one interested in physical

exercises

> and yoga but it gives illness too, further, Saturn from 9'th house

> aspects 6'th house, clearly indicating, long bout of sickness.

>

> 6. Spirituality and Poorva Punya : It's seen by his guru Thakur

> Ramakrishna Paramhansha that Swami Ji is, infact, a Shapt Rishi ( One

of

> great 7 sages of Indian Spiritual Mythology) with Dhanu lagna chart,

> there is no connection between 5'th and 9'th houses and their lord,

> except for Sun who is 9'th lord rather, in Dhanu Lagna chart, you

> get great temptation and binding to materialistic achievements as Jup

is

> in 11'th house is infamous for insatiable lust for materialistic

gains.

>

> With Makar Lagna chart, you get, 5'th lord Venus and 9'th lord Merc in

> lagna itself, which is a rarest of the rare configuration,

furthermore,

> Venus is 10'th lord also, 10'th lord's placement in lagna makes one a

> Karma Yogi, Count more, in Makar lagna chart, Lagna lord Saturn is

gone

> to 9'th house of religion and Guru's blessings, There it get's

> conjunction of Moon to make it an exceptional spiritual chart. Mind

it,

> 8'th house and 8'th lord has no significant role in spiritual

> achievements, It's limited to take one into maya of mysticism whereas

in

> spirituality you need to overcome maya.

>

> And above all, with Makar lagna chart, you get ketu in 5'th house,

> making swami ji a siddha mantra sadhaka with Mars in 4'th leading

> him to kundalini awakening and also giving him qualities to think deep

> and look within before making an expression. Jup's aspect on 2nd

> gave him both VakShuddhi and VakSiddhi.

>

> 7. World Tour and Lectures : This has happened in Jup's period, in

> Makar lagna, Sun is placed in 12'th, Jup the 3rd and 12'th lord,

> placed in 10'th house of karma, because of Jup's 3rd house's

> lordship, he became greatest orator of modern times and because of

12'th

> house lordship, he went on world tour to spread true vedic

spirituality

> in the form of Vedanta.

>

> With Dhanu lagna chart, astrology finds no connection with such a

world

> tour and lectures.

>

> 8. Guru's Death : With Makar lagna chart, It was Rahu's dasa and

> Rahu's transit on his 9'th house, when Guru Ramkrishna died, his

> father's death also happened in Rahu's period .

>

> 9. Celibacy Vs Poligamy : With Dhanu Lagna chart, You get a clear

> combination for multiple marriages, Swami ji's dhanu lagna chart is

> mockery of Vedic astrology and Swami Ji's life. In Dhanu lagna chart,

> You get 7'th and 10'th lord mercury is gone to 2nd house, this gives

> relationship with multiple women, morever, this Merc is conjunct with

> Venus, the 11'th lord of desires (Kamana). How astrologers could see

> celibacy and ignore presence of polygamy in Swami Ji's Dhanu Lagna

chart

> is a question mark in astrologer's ability to read and understand a

> chart.

>

> Now, let's have a serious look at Makar lagna chart, Mars the 4'th

lord,

> aspects 7'th house, and 7'th lord moon, who is conjunct with Saturn

> which is lagna lord and this combination occurs in 9'th house, So, he

> remained a brahmchari and It has made him a son of divine mother Kali.

>

> 10. Business Empire Vs Renunciation : Can you answer, when you find

> 11'th and 10'th lord in 2nd house, is it a combination for making a

> business enterprise or renunciation, what combination find in rich

> business man's chart.

>

> With Dhanu Lagna chart, Swami ji get's 7'th and 10'th lord Merc

conjunct

> with 11'th lord Venus, this combination makes him a business man, a

> trader, Further to that, Jup is in libra (tula) which is lagna and

4'th

> lord, placed in 11'th house, So, should he be not a business magnet

like

> Bill Gates, isn't it, This underlines a big n vivid question mark in

> abilities of those astrologers who declare Swami ji was born with

dhanu

> lagna. Hardly, there is any considerable combination present making

> Swami Vivekananda a saint, Have you ever seen a person with Rahu in

> 12'th becomes a sage, where is renunciation present in dhanu lagna

> chart ??

>

> Now, Look at Makar Lagna chart, the Ketu in 5'th and Mars in 4'th

> forming Ruchaka Mahapurush Yoga, Ketu as well as Mars are required to

> ignite the divine serpent fire of Kundalini with the blessing of a

> great Guru Swami Ji could ignite his Kundalini, It's noteworthy that

> Jup aspect this mars from 10'th house and has 12'th lordship also,

>

> I trust, everybody w'd come forward and w'd contribute for getting a

> correct birth time of Swami Ji, perhapse that w'd be a homage from

> astrologers on his birth anniversary which falls today.

>

January 14, 2010

Dear Utkal ji,

Will the condition of short life apply only when 8th lord is in 12th or also

when 12th lord is in 8th.

regards,

Manoj

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utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

Thu, January 14, 2010 12:25:27 AM

Re: Swami Vivekananda's Chart : A Comparative Study of

Makar and Dhanu Lagna chart

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