- Lord Ram as Ishta Dev for Sun or Goddess Matangi Mata

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Om Namoh Bhagvate VasudevayaDear Rafalji,NamaskarIf someone has Karamamsa in 7th house in Aries sign in Navamsa chart ( Navamsa Lagna is Libra) and Sun is placed in Pisces sign in 12th house from it - then would the Ishta Dev be Sree Ram or Matangi Mata. On your website in one of the articles for Ishta Dev it has been mentioned that Sun is Lord Rama. Then would it be correct to say that since Sun is involved the Ishta Dev is Lord Rama or would it still be Matangi Mata - if so why? Can u please advise - thank you warms regardssmart playerRafal Gendarz <starsuponme Sent: Saturday, 3 May, 2008 12:13:07 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to

'dance'.

 

a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart

 

b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of

Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life.

 

c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should

pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata

scheme per BPHS/Tantra.

 

d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose

Devata of the Bhava.

 

e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise

praying to Ishta Deva.

 

Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen napisał(a):

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten

us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the

floor is yours ..

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let me

rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the

depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not

beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which

has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect

to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also

in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed

(say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga

mantra for the planet?

 

And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can we

just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we

have to add any more words/beejas to it?

 

Thanks for your replies.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.

Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the

visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open

and the prayers will not reach their destination.

Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but

i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my

way with grammar.

 

The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no

doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so

with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not

helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse.

Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way

out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from

the husband.

 

The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you

have been given so far until you learn something new.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I have

a

doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar

jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont

worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate?

 

Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I

have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or

whatever the name of the jyotirlinga.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.

If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in

Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their

intentions wrt. to this match.

 

When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most

astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that

this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length

of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.

 

Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the

first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that

the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined

the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.

So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people

saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.

The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its

particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire

and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.

 

The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus

Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to

Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter

of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who

will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system

issues due to the planet being Mars.

 

My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any

karmas associated with the spouse.

Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of

Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara

Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage,

or before the couple unites after the wedding date.

The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|

 

I hope this helps.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

 

Michal Dziwulski skrev:

 

 

 

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,

 

How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus

dasa Shani antardasa. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed

planet.

 

The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers

warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the

Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.

 

The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly

placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

-----

Original Message ----

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

 

Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

Dear Prabhu,

 

I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong curse

in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna.

 

As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and moon

being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse.

Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL.

This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th

house can cause some degree of ill fortune.

 

All this can give lots of very bad painful experinces

regarding marriage.

She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma

lakshmi

and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as

chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot

containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT)

com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

Hari Om,

 

Dear ,Prabhu

Ganesh,

Neither Girl

is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with

marriage of these children.

I think some

misunderstanding is the cause.

It will be

pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How

they see denial and post this to group.

May be some

concrete solution may emerge.

Some time

because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected.

With best

wishes.

 

OM TATSAT

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

Swami_RCS

http:\\www.kaalvast

u.com]

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who

has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

--------- --

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

Prabhu Ganesh

To:

@

. com

Sent:

Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM

Subject:

[Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

 

 

Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology,

As i had written before about the marriage of my

cousin brother to his bride in India, and the

problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did

not

get any reply hence we consulted two

top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact - say

that being manglik least of importance,

and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow

marriage

at all!!!!

 

She has no such blessing to get married, and if my

cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead

to his death!

 

I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this,

since

the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the

Kundli from a few pandits in pune.

 

The marriage set in November (with invitation

cards

all out) is at the verge of being called off.

 

Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at

this

point? to ever make this happen?

 

I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know

how

it is! she is from a small town in Pune

and most of the folks there are already being

informed about the marriage, and her

life could be probably be ruined for years to come.

 

Please lend your expertise and see if we can save

this!

 

Her Details

 

Deepti Naidu

October 12th 1990 12:06 PM

Born in Bombay, India

 

His Detail

 

Theeban Vicrama Surya

August 26 1982 13:26 PM

Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT 8)

 

 

According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp

Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break

the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out

anything with the girls chart!

 

I Sincerely Thank all of you!

Please suggest any remedy to any extent..

 

Thank you.

 

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear SP   , Namaskar

 

If its connected to 6 from Amk then Matangi, otherwise Shiva or Rama.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

 

smart player napisał(a):

 

 

Om

Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Rafalji,

Namaskar

 

If someone has Karamamsa in 7th house in Aries sign in Navamsa chart (

Navamsa Lagna is Libra) and Sun is placed in Pisces sign in 12th house

from it  - then would the Ishta Dev be Sree Ram  or  Matangi Mata.   On

your website in one of the articles for Ishta Dev it has been mentioned

that Sun is Lord Rama.  Then would it be correct to say that since Sun

is involved the Ishta Dev is Lord Rama or would it still be Matangi

Mata - if so why?   Can u please advise - thank you

 

warms regards

smart player

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message ----

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

 

Saturday, 3 May, 2008 12:13:07 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to

'dance'.

 

a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart

 

b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of

Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life.

 

c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should

pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata

scheme per BPHS/Tantra.

 

d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose

Devata of the Bhava.

 

e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise

praying to Ishta Deva.

 

Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen napisał(a):

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten

us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the

floor is yours ..

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let

me

rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the

depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not

beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which

has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect

to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also

in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed

(say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga

mantra for the planet?

 

And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can

we

just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we

have to add any more words/beejas to it?

 

Thanks for your replies.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.

Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the

visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open

and the prayers will not reach their destination.

Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but

i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my

way with grammar.

 

The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no

doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so

with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not

helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse.

Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way

out. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from

the husband.

 

The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you

have been given so far until you learn something new.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I

have

a

doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar

jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont

worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate?

 

Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I

have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or

whatever the name of the jyotirlinga.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.

If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in

Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their

intentions wrt. to this match.

 

When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most

astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that

this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length

of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.

 

Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the

first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that

the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined

the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.

So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people

saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.

The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its

particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire

and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.

 

The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus

Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to

Mars and will give ill health to spouse. The latter point is a matter

of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who

will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system

issues due to the planet being Mars.

 

My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any

karmas associated with the spouse.

Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of

Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara

Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage,

or before the couple unites after the wedding date.

The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|

 

I hope this helps.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

Michal Dziwulski skrev:

 

 

 

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,

 

How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna.  This gives Venus

dasa Shani antardasa.  Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed

planet.

 

The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers

warning against the marriage.  See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the

Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.

 

The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly

placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

-----

Original Message ----

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

 

Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

Dear Prabhu,

 

I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong

curse

in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna.

 

As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and

moon

being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse.

Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL.

This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th

house can cause some degree of ill fortune.

 

All this can give lots of very bad painful

experinces

regarding marriage.

She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma

lakshmi

and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as

chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot

containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT)

com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

         || Om Gurave Namah

||

Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

 Hari Om,

 

Dear

,Prabhu

Ganesh,

Neither

Girl

is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with

marriage of these children.

I think

some

misunderstanding is the cause.

It will be

pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How

they see denial and post this  to group.

May be

some

concrete solution may emerge.

Some time

because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected.

With best

wishes.

 

 OM TATSAT

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

Swami_RCS

http:\\www.kaalvast u.com]

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who

has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

--------- --

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

Prabhu Ganesh

To:

@

. com

Sent:

Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM

Subject:

[Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

 

 

Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology,

As i had written before about the marriage of my

cousin brother to his bride in India, and the

problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did

not

get any reply hence we consulted two

top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact -

say

that being manglik least of importance,

and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow

marriage

at all!!!!

 

She has no such blessing to get married, and if

my

cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead

to his death!

 

I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this,

since

the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the

Kundli from a few pandits in pune.

 

The marriage set in November (with invitation

cards

all out) is at the verge of being called off.

 

Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at

this

point? to ever make this happen?

 

I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know

how

it is! she is from a small town in Pune

and most of the folks there are already being

informed about the marriage, and her

life could be probably be ruined for years to

come.

 

Please lend your expertise and see if we can

save

this!

 

Her Details

 

Deepti Naidu

October 12th 1990 12:06 PM

Born in Bombay, India

 

His Detail

 

Theeban Vicrama Surya

August 26 1982 13:26 PM

Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT

8)

 

 

According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp

Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break

the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out

anything with the girls chart!

 

I Sincerely Thank all of you!

Please suggest any remedy to any extent..

 

Thank you.

 

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know-it-all with Mobile. Try

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Om Namoh Bhagvate VasudevayaDear Rafaljinamaskarthank you for your reply.is placement of the planets from the Atmyakara important for ascertaining the ishta deva ? pls advise.Also is there any article or book where this can be read and understood.. thank you and warm regardssmart playerRafal Gendarz

<starsuponme Sent: Sunday, 4 May, 2008 3:42:10 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] - Lord Ram as Ishta Dev for Sun or Goddess Matangi Mata

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear SP , Namaskar

 

If its connected to 6 from Amk then Matangi, otherwise Shiva or Rama.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

 

smart player napisał(a):

 

 

Om

Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Rafalji,

Namaskar

 

If someone has Karamamsa in 7th house in Aries sign in Navamsa chart (

Navamsa Lagna is Libra) and Sun is placed in Pisces sign in 12th house

from it - then would the Ishta Dev be Sree Ram or Matangi Mata. On

your website in one of the articles for Ishta Dev it has been mentioned

that Sun is Lord Rama. Then would it be correct to say that since Sun

is involved the Ishta Dev is Lord Rama or would it still be Matangi

Mata - if so why? Can u please advise - thank you

 

warms regards

smart player

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message ----

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

 

Saturday, 3 May, 2008 12:13:07 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to

'dance'.

 

a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart

 

b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of

Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life.

 

c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should

pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata

scheme per BPHS/Tantra.

 

d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose

Devata of the Bhava.

 

e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise

praying to Ishta Deva.

 

Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen napisał(a):

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten

us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the

floor is yours ..

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let

me

rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the

depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not

beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which

has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect

to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also

in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed

(say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga

mantra for the planet?

 

And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra can

we

just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we

have to add any more words/beejas to it?

 

Thanks for your replies.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.

Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the

visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open

and the prayers will not reach their destination.

Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but

i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my

way with grammar.

 

The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no

doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so

with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not

helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse.

Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way

out.. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from

the husband.

 

The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you

have been given so far until you learn something new.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I

have

a

doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar

jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont

worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate?

 

Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally I

have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or

whatever the name of the jyotirlinga.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.

If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in

Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their

intentions wrt. to this match.

 

When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most

astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that

this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length

of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.

 

Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the

first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that

the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined

the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.

So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people

saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.

The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its

particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire

and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.

 

The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus

Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to

Mars and will give ill health to spouse.. The latter point is a matter

of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who

will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system

issues due to the planet being Mars.

 

My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any

karmas associated with the spouse.

Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of

Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara

Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage,

or before the couple unites after the wedding date.

The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|

 

I hope this helps.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

Michal Dziwulski skrev:

 

 

 

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,

 

How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna. This gives Venus

dasa Shani antardasa.. Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed

planet.

 

The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers

warning against the marriage. See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the

Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.

 

The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly

placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

-----

Original Message ----

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

 

Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

Dear Prabhu,

 

I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong

curse

in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna.

 

As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and

moon

being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse.

Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL.

This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th

house can cause some degree of ill fortune.

 

All this can give lots of very bad painful

experinces

regarding marriage.

She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma

lakshmi

and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as

chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot

containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her.

 

-Regards

Rajarshi

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT)

com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah

||

Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

Hari Om,

 

Dear

,Prabhu

Ganesh,

Neither

Girl

is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with

marriage of these children.

I think

some

misunderstanding is the cause.

It will be

pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How

they see denial and post this to group.

May be

some

concrete solution may emerge.

Some time

because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected.

With best

wishes.

 

OM TATSAT

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

Swami_RCS

http:\\www.kaalvast u.com]

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who

has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

--------- --

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

Prabhu Ganesh

To:

@

. com

Sent:

Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM

Subject:

[Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

 

 

Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology,

As i had written before about the marriage of my

cousin brother to his bride in India, and the

problem of the girl being manglik or not - i did

not

get any reply hence we consulted two

top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact -

say

that being manglik least of importance,

and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow

marriage

at all!!!!

 

She has no such blessing to get married, and if

my

cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead

to his death!

 

I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this,

since

the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the

Kundli from a few pandits in pune.

 

The marriage set in November (with invitation

cards

all out) is at the verge of being called off.

 

Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do at

this

point? to ever make this happen?

 

I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys know

how

it is! she is from a small town in Pune

and most of the folks there are already being

informed about the marriage, and her

life could be probably be ruined for years to

come.

 

Please lend your expertise and see if we can

save

this!

 

Her Details

 

Deepti Naidu

October 12th 1990 12:06 PM

Born in Bombay, India

 

His Detail

 

Theeban Vicrama Surya

August 26 1982 13:26 PM

Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use GMT

8)

 

 

According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp

Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break

the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out

anything with the girls chart!

 

I Sincerely Thank all of you!

Please suggest any remedy to any extent..

 

Thank you.

 

Be a better friend, newshound, and

know-it-all with Mobile. Try

it now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam

Jayavaham

Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||

 

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kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear  Smartplayer , Namaskar

 

If Palana devata is involved then the Ishta take the form of a Mother,

if its Dharmadeva then its Vishnu..In this way..

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com /

email:

rafal

 

 

smart player napisał(a):

 

 

Om

Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Rafalji

namaskar

 

thank you for your reply.

 

is placement of the planets from the Atmyakara important for

ascertaining the ishta deva ?  pls advise.

Also is there any article or book where this can be read and

understood..

 

thank you and warm regards

smart player

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message ----

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

 

Sunday, 4 May, 2008 3:42:10 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] - Lord Ram as Ishta Dev for Sun or

Goddess Matangi Mata

 

 

kleem namah narasimhaaya

Dear SP   , Namaskar

 

If its connected to 6 from Amk then Matangi, otherwise Shiva or Rama.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

 

smart player napisał(a):

 

 

 

Om

Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevaya

 

Dear Rafalji,

Namaskar

 

If someone has Karamamsa in 7th house in Aries sign in Navamsa chart (

Navamsa Lagna is Libra) and Sun is placed in Pisces sign in 12th house

from it  - then would the Ishta Dev be Sree Ram  or  Matangi Mata.   On

your website in one of the articles for Ishta Dev it has been mentioned

that Sun is Lord Rama.  Then would it be correct to say that since Sun

is involved the Ishta Dev is Lord Rama or would it still be Matangi

Mata - if so why?   Can u please advise - thank you

 

warms regards

smart player

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message ----

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>

 

Saturday, 3 May, 2008 12:13:07 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

kleem namah

narasimhaaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

 

If it is related to correcting the curse/dosha then I would like to

'dance'.

 

a) see the bhava where the curse exists in the chart

 

b) FIRST see the dispositor - if its wellplaced then the Guru rupa of

Graha should be propiated to remove the blemish from natives life.

 

c) if dispositor is afflicted or badly placed then SECONDLY we should

pay attention to karaka of the bhava - here we use the pratyadi devata

scheme per BPHS/Tantra.

 

d) if both are badly placed then THIRD approach is that we choose

Devata of the Bhava.

 

e) if AK is cursed then we choose Jyotirlinga of graha or we advise

praying to Ishta Deva.

 

Refer to Devatas.pdf on my site to choose the exact form of God.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC

Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com /

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen napisał(a):

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

Don't add beejas if you don't know how. I'm sure Rafal will enlighten

us as to how to choose the specific devata for worship.... Rafal the

floor is yours ..

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your clarification. For my understanding let

me

rephrase if I have understood correctly. IN case of a curse where the

depositor is not helping and the karaka of the bhava is also not

beneficial, then we can use the jyotirlinga mantra of the planet which

has been cursed. So in case this situation was happening with respect

to venus we should have adviced trambakeshwar jyotirlinga mantra. Also

in this case jupiter is exhalted in rasi chart, if it were badly placed

(say debiliated or combust) even then could we advise jyotirlinga

mantra for the planet?

 

And when advising someone to chant a jyotirlinga mantra

can

we

just say "om nama(H) shivaaya nama(H) {name of jyotirlinga} or do we

have to add any more words/beejas to it?

 

Thanks for your replies.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com> wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Rajarshi and Rafal, Namaskar.

Om Nama(H) Shivaaya... never ommit the bhedana arising out of the

visarga (H also depicted as two dots) otherwise the chakras won't open

and the prayers will not reach their destination.

Some sanskrit scholars believe that the bhedana should be omitted, but

i will accept what Shiva says in the Shiva Purana rather than guess my

way with grammar.

 

The main curse is that of Jupiter in the eighth house - there is no

doubt. So i need to help Jupiter our of the curse and i have done so

with Jyotirlinga because i) the dispositor of the eighth is not

helping, ii) the karaka saturn is himself involved in another curse.

Hence i chose a Jyotirlinga for Jupiter himself which is the last way

out.. Note that Jupiter afflictions also points towards problems from

the husband.

 

The mantras are decided based on Upadesa/advise. Follow the advise you

have been given so far until you learn something new.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

rajarshi nandy skrev:

 

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thank you for your reply on this horoscope. However I

have

a

doubt. You said for remedying the curse she must worship omkarshwar

jyotirlinga. But her AK is saturn which is adding to teh curse. Wont

worship of Mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga be more appropiate?

 

Also how are the jyotirlinga mantras decided? Normally

I

have seen them being refered as om namashivayah nama omkareshwaraya or

whatever the name of the jyotirlinga.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

wrote:

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£

Dear Michal, Rajarshi and Prabhu, Namaskar.

If one is not given a blessing one must do remedies. The astrologers in

Malaysia didn't advise any remedies and for this we must suspect their

intentions wrt. to this match.

 

When planets are afflicted in the mangalya-sthana (8th house) most

astrologers speak ill of marriage. Here a careful note should be that

this shows the physical felicity of the relationship and not the length

of marriage itself which is normally seen from the second from upapada.

 

Whenever a marriage is obstructed see the seventh/house lord from the

first upapada, regardless of which marriage it is. Here we find that

the lord is in the same house which is fortunate, however it is joined

the Sun, debilitated Venu and afflicted by Rahu and Saturn.

So here we see that it will be difficult to get married, and the people

saying no to the marriage are seen from the planets in Virgo.

The lord of Upapada is itself in a curse showing clearly that its

particularly the first marriage-opportunit y which is under fire

and will give a lot of sorrow as 1st and 8th lords are involved.

 

The second from Upapada is lorded by Mars. Mars is placed in Taurus

Rasi and Cancer navamsa, both signs which cause a lot of weakness to

Mars and will give ill health to spouse.. The latter point is a matter

of karmic conditions as it implies that she can only marry a spouse who

will have ill health later on and particularly suffer nervous system

issues due to the planet being Mars.

 

My advise: Have the lady perform Kumbha Vivaha puja to iron out any

karmas associated with the spouse.

Further, to redeedm herself of the curse (main curse) the worship of

Shiva as Omakareshvara Jyotirlinga is required. A visit to Omkareshvara

Jyotirlinga would by itself be a worthwhile pilgrimage before marriage,

or before the couple unites after the wedding date.

The mantra is: om namah shivaaya omkareshaaya om om sah|

 

I hope this helps.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

www: http://srigaruda. com

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

 

Michal Dziwulski skrev:

 

 

 

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Rajarshi, Prabhu and all,

 

How about using Moola dasa option just from Lagna.  This gives Venus

dasa Shani antardasa..  Shani is Atmakaraka and Venus is the cursed

planet.

 

The problem we have been advised is that there are some astrologers

warning against the marriage.  See Ketu (astrologer) afflicting the

Moon and conjoining the lord of UL in the 8th house of occult knowledge.

 

The lord of the 2nd from UL is debilitated in the Navamsa, and poorly

placed in Rasi, which threatens to end the marriage.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

-----

Original Message ----

rajarshi nandy <rajarshi14 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

 

Friday, May 2, 2008 6:38:36 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

Dear Prabhu,

 

I was checking the girls chart. She has a strong

curse

in her 10th house which is also the 7th from her upapada lagna.

 

As per moola dasa she is running moon mahdasa and

moon

being in 8th house in rasi could have possible activated the curse.

Also shani in her lagna gives graha dristi on AL and rasi dristi on UL.

This can cause problems for marriage. Plus trasit shani is over her 9th

house can cause some degree of ill fortune.

 

All this can give lots of very bad painful

experinces

regarding marriage.

She should keep a picture of lord vishnu and ma

lakshmi

and do daily puja with incense and sweetmeat as offering.. as well as

chant the vishnu shahashranama with her right hand in an earthern pot

containing water. Doing this for everyday will surely help her.

 

-Regards

 Rajarshi

 

 

 

swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT)

com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

         || Om Gurave

Namah

||

Om SreeMahaGanaadhipat aye Namah

 Hari Om,

 

Dear

,Prabhu

Ganesh,

Neither

Girl

is mangalik nor Kaal sarpa yoga of boy has to do any thing with

marriage of these children.

I think

some

misunderstanding is the cause.

It will

be

pertinent to ask them in writing why they see no marriage to girl. How

they see denial and post this  to group.

May be

some

concrete solution may emerge.

Some

time

because of astrology many good and desirable matches are rejected.

With

best

wishes.

 

 OM TATSAT

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

Swami_RCS

http:\\www.kaalvast u.com]

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------

" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who

has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

--------- --

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

Prabhu Ganesh

To:

@

. com

Sent:

Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:41 AM

Subject:

[Om Krishna Guru] Cousin's Marriage is being called off!

 

 

 

 

Dear Gurus and Followes of Vedic Astrology,

As i had written before about the marriage of

my

cousin brother to his bride in India, and the

problem of the girl being manglik or not - i

did

not

get any reply hence we consulted two

top rated astrologers in Malaysia who infact -

say

that being manglik least of importance,

and say that the girl's chart doesnt allow

marriage

at all!!!!

 

She has no such blessing to get married, and

if

my

cousin should marry her, he will get severely sick and could even lead

to his death!

 

I am stunned by the sudden revelation of this,

since

the girl's mother (who is a relative of my cousin's) has cleared of the

Kundli from a few pandits in pune.

 

The marriage set in November (with invitation

cards

all out) is at the verge of being called off.

 

Is there any remedy the girl or boy could do

at

this

point? to ever make this happen?

 

I really feel sorry for the girl, you guys

know

how

it is! she is from a small town in Pune

and most of the folks there are already being

informed about the marriage, and her

life could be probably be ruined for years to

come.

 

Please lend your expertise and see if we can

save

this!

 

Her Details

 

Deepti Naidu

October 12th 1990 12:06 PM

Born in Bombay, India

 

His Detail

 

Theeban Vicrama Surya

August 26 1982 13:26 PM

Born in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia (please use

GMT

8)

 

 

According to my research the boy has Kaal-Sarp

Dosha, there is a guy in Kalahaasti Shiva Temple who helped many break

the curse however - i am very much a novice and cant figure out

anything with the girls chart!

 

I Sincerely Thank all of you!

Please suggest any remedy to any extent..

 

Thank you.

 

Be a better friend, newshound, and

know-it-all with Mobile. Try

it now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aditya

Hrudayam punyam Sarva satru Vinasanam

 Jayavaham

Japet Nityam Akshyayyam paramam sivam ||

 

Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find

your favourite

Group.

 

 

 

 

Be a better friend, newshound, and

know-it-all

with Mobile. Try

it now.

 

 

 

 

 

Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find

your favourite Group.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this

and

more on

Best of .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading

messenger.

Click here

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Explore your hobbies and interests. Click

here to begin.