Correction - [ Natural / Temporal siginifications]]

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Aum Gurudevayah Namah

 

Dear Sarat,

 

Thank you for giving the house lords associated with the different karakas. I

shall look forward on a discussion of how to interpret the chart taking so

many types of significators into consideration.

 

Regards

 

Sarajit

 

 

" J. Sarat Chander " <jsarat wrote:

Jai Jai Shri Jagannath Om Ganeshaya Namah

 

Dear Sarajit,

 

There is an error in my reply to the Gnatikaraka part, which I regret deeply

and wish to correct. The Lord for Gnatikaraka is the Lord of the 6th.

Gnatis are our relatives. They are the one's who stand up along side to

fight the enemy when we are confronted with one. Take the example in

Mahabharat. Shakuni was the Mama of Kauravas and Sri Krishna was the Mama

of the Pandavas. The entire war, I would say, was between the Gnatis (the

Mamas or uncles) of the Kauravas and Pandavas. The war itself was for

establishment of Dharma. To defeat the enemies the Gnatikaraka should be

strong enough while a weak Gnatikaraka would lead to personal defeat. I

hope this elaborates.

 

I am sorry for the wrong post earlier - a lapse on my part.

 

Regards,

Yours, Sarat.

 

 

> " J. Sarat Chander " <jsarat

>varahamihira

>varahamihira

> Re: [ Natural / Temporal siginifications]

>Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:40:29 PDT

>

>Jai Jai Shri Jagannath Om Ganeshaya Namah

>

>Dear Sarajit,

>

>Amatyakaraka is the 2nd Lord. The 2nd Lord is Vishnu and he is the

>PALANKARTA - the who takes care. He is the sustainer of the Lagna and it

>is

>he who provides food for the Lagna i.e., the air we breathe, the water we

>drink etc., - the five tattwas which we need to be alive. It is he who

>provides them and the day he takes away even one of these, the Lagna cannot

>sustain itself.

>

>Gnatikaraka - The 4th lord who is seen for Mother is also seen for

>Gnatikaraka. The fundamental, I think, is our first relationship comes

>from

>Mother from whom the subsequent relationships follow. I don't know whether

>I am right. Sanjayji, please correct me if I am wrong and also elaborate

>if

>need be.

>

>Regards,

>Yours,

>Sarat.

>

>

>>Sarajit Poddar <sarajit

>>varahamihira

>>varahamihira

>> Re: [ Natural / Temporal siginifications]

>>17 Sep 99 12:27:57 MDT

>>

>>Aum Gurudevayah Namah

>>Namaskar all of you

>>

>>I am putting forward another perspective to this issue! This is according

>>to

>>the lord ship of the planets of different houses in the rasi chart. They

>>are

>>

>>Atmakaraka - 1st lord

>>Amatyakaraka -

>>Bhatrukaraka - 3rd lord

>>Matrukaraka - 4th lord

>>Pitrukaraka - 9th lord

>>Putrakaraka - 5th lord

>>Gyantikaraka -

>>Darakaraka - 7th lord

>>

>>Please give your views and fill up the left lords as I can't recollect it

>>now.

>>The effect on the significations are also to be studied from the above

>>lords

>>along with the naisargika and charakarakas.

>>

>>Regards

>>

>>Sarajit

>>

>> " J. Sarat Chander " <jsarat wrote:

>>Jai Jai Shri Jagannath Om Ganeshaya Namah

>>

>>Dear Saanjayji and YND,

>>

>>I am sorry I couldn't reply for long due to pre-occupations and pressures

>>of

>>work. I find that Shri Sarajit has already attempted the reply to this

>>mail. However, here's what I need to add.

>>

>>Natural Significators - According to standard texts each planet has been

>>given a karakatwa meaning what it primarily represents or signifies. The

>>standard sanskrit words are " Naisargika Karaka " where " Naisargika " means

>>natural and " Karaka " means significator or what it symbolizes. In the

>>natural zodiac of the Kalapurusha these planets hold these natural

>>siginification. However, when individual horoscopes are made the

>>karakatwa

>>of the planets change in accordance with their respective longitudes.

>>This

>>does not alter their basic natural (Naisargik) qualities though. They

>>become relative to a certain karakatwa in different individual charts and

>>this is called 'Temporary significators' or Chara Karaka in sanskrit.

>>

>>Most people adopt a seven planet karakatwa pattern i.e., from Sun to

>>Saturn

>>excluding Rahu. However, the most effective karakatwa scheme recommended

>>by

>>Maharishi Parasara and Jaimini and that followed by Sanjayji himself and

>>as

>>taught to us, is to follow the 8 planet karakatwa scheme which includes

>>Rahu

>>too. The 8 karakatwas and their natural significators (Naisargik Karakas)

>>are:-

>>

>>(1) Atmakarak (Sun)

>>(2) Amatyakarak (Moon as it is Vishnu who takes care of us and it is the

>>mother who takes care of child till it becomes strong enough)

>>(3) Bhratrukarak (Mars) (Bhratrukarak is also known as Gurukarak) (4)

>>Matrikarak (Moon)

>>(5) Pitrikarak (Saturn)

>>(6) Putrakarak (Jupiter)

>>(7) Gnatikarak (Mercury), and

>>(8) Darakarak (Venus) for spouse.

>>

>>The temporal signification or the chara karakatwa in the individual natal

>>charts change according to the degrees attained by each of the planets -

>>beginning with the planet obtaining the highest degree becoming the

>>Atmakarak and going downwards to Darakarak.

>>

>>The effects of these charakarakas are to be studied from their respective

>>placements in the chart as also in relation to their placement from the

>>natural significators. For example: Moon represents the mother and

>>generally speaking, the placement of Moon itself will reveal a lot of

>>things

>>about mother. However, the effects/results get modified also in terms

>>with

>>the placement of the chara matrikaraka in the chart, both in terms of the

>>placement of the chara matrikaraka in the chart as also with its placement

>>relationship with the naisargik matrikarak.

>>

>>For the time being this would suffice. Any further questions, please do

>>not

>>hesitate to come back.

>>

>>Regards,

>>Yours,

>>Sarat.

>>

>> > " Sanjay Rath " <varahamihira

>> >varahamihira

>> > " Sarajit Poddar " <sarajit_poddar,

>> ><varahamihira >

>> > Re: Natural / Temporal siginifications

>> >Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:40:37 +0530

>> >

>> >JAYA JAGANNATH

>> >Dear YND,

>> > I cannot answer so many questions daily. Gauranga, Sarat, Mani,

>>Dinath

>> >Prabhu, please attempt a few and give your views. I find that Sarajit

>>is

>> >also very quiet. Can we hear your views on this please?

>> >Hare Rama Krishna

>> >Sanjay Rath

>> >-

>> >YND

>> >Varahamihira

>> >Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:27 PM

>> > Natural / Temporal siginifications

>> >

>> >

>> >Dear Gurudev,

>> >Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath!

>> >

>> >By your grace the difference between rashis and grahas became clear. Now

>> >another ABC question comes for me: how to understand the difference

>>between

>> >natural and temporal significations. Sometimes natural significators

>> >indicate good results but the temporal give bad ones - what to infer

>>from

>> >this? It would be very helpful if you again can give some analogy.

>> >

>> >I don't have clear picture here and feel that cannot progress much in my

>> >understanding without it.

>> >

>> >Your sisya

>> >Yasomatinandana das

>> >

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