Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Gaurav, Namaste Deva Keralam Bk 3pg 46:2630 vikramaayavyayeshaanaa.n sphuTayoga.n gate phaNau | bhraatR^ihaani.n mahaaroga.n nirdeshodripuviikShite | kujamandaphaNiinaa.n ca sphuTayoga.n gate phaNau ||3.2630|| meaning: add longitudes of lords of 3rd, 11th and 12th. When Rahu transits into this result with the aspect of a planet that is inimical to him, the person incurs loss of a sibling and mahaaroga (great disease). Deva Keralam Bk 3 pg 47:2636 trayaaNaa.n bhaagyanaathaanaa.n guroH candraacca lagnataH | sphuTayoga.n gate raahau bhaagyahaati.n vinirdisot || 3.2636|| meaning: TRANSIT Rahu in the 9th of the longitudinal sums of lord of the 9th with reference to these three: Jupiter, natal Moon and natal ascendant, predict decline in one’s fortune. There maybe other references that is uniquely applied to Rahu’s traversal and only to his traversal, but my understanding is that the reading of a chart is the amalgamation of several planets – one makes the hermit, two a pair and three is the beginning of a party like in curses and blessings. Hence a planet cannot singly give results. My other understanding of which I use frequently (perhaps from an off-shoot of the western application) is to look at the paryaya of slower moving planets – The three, Saturn, Rahu and Jupiter can describe a lot more and can give you a snap view of one’s chart. Because Rahu can “imitate” Guru’s ways, paryayas are important. The changes come in biorhythmic waves – Saturn – Age 1-+/- 30, then +/ 60 and so on Rahu Age 1- +/-18 years, then 36/37 and the third cycle at around 55/56 and so on. Jupiter Age 1 –12; 24, 36, 48, 60 ( you are currently in your 2nd cycle – when I return from my hols, I will detail the cycles for you ) Note that the cycle of Saturn is at its third and Jupiter will be at its 5th in the 60 year cycle – the half way mark of the vimsottari dasa. As for the luminaries, I used to base it on 1degree=1 year for Sun and for the Moon, the Moon Signs book by Sasha gives a rather convoluted method of calculation – but the end result is pretty awesome. As for Rahu in the Arudha Pada, there is some hope for those who have sleepless nights over in your concern: as Deva Keralam Bk 3.2666 pg 49 aarUDhe raahudeSheNa baalye.alpasukhabuddhimaan | kaalaantare campakaa.nshe ravabuddhayaayuktitamaan guNii ||3.2666|| meaning: Rahu in the AL causes limited happiness and intelligence in childhood but with the passing of time, be will become more intelligent and expedient and he will also be virtuous. The other two verses maybe related as it protracts into the persona. verse 2760 details Rahu in the AL will give mental distress in the 5th dasa (alluding to the the paryaya as above) while verse 2751 says that during the last drekkana, there will be increase of enemies, his loved ones wil be in grief and his posperity will be chequered (during the 5th dasa) Of course, timing for these slow moving planets are based on its entry into the sign and the exact timing is the sum of the longitudes as suggested above. In the analysis of transits, other planets have to be involved (graha dishti/conjunction/placement in/from AL) or else there will not be much to say with empty houses is there? .....need to go through all those three books and highlight the relevant. Do you have this collection? Would be a good investment love, Swee In a message dated 3/24/2007 7:52:24 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan writes: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste I think I may have found the dictum we’ve been searching for, consider Rahu to be a natural malefic: JUS 1:3.34 – Sanjay Rath daridro vipariite If malefics are in the 2nd, 4th, 5th 8th or 9th houses as benefics are in the 3rd and 6th, poverty is indicated. In his notes: Pg 89 ii) similarly, financial downturns can be predicted during the period of benefics in 3rd and 6th and malefics in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th and 9th from the Arudha Lagna. In srimantah yoga, results are to be studied from the AL as well as the AK. I wonder if this can be extended to apply for other yogas? I would presume so as this statement covers all possible aspects. Jupiter in the 12th from AL gives expenses. From your brief, I would think it is your children’s sufferings, health concerns or their safety. If you father is still alive, then his health concerns. Love, Swee Sharat <gidoc <sohamsa > Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:29:27 -0700 <sohamsa > Re: Question of Rahu  ||Hare Ram Krishna|| Dear Swee and Visti, It is indeed interesting to note this discussion. So how will Rahu in these positions effect the native! You can see my example: Rahu is in Lagna(Libra) aspecting 5H and AL(9H, no planets). Further, transit Rahu is in 5H(Aquarius, which also tenants Su-Me-Ve). Saviour is Ju( but vakra) from 12H aspecting AL. Can you guess what has been going on? Regards Sharat ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan <sweechan Sohamsa <sohamsa > Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:11 PM Re: Question of Rahu Jaya Jagannatha Dear Zoran (and Visti), Namaste Still searching and back to my thoughts based on Sanjay ji’s principal: Let me first assume that wealth is through progeny – 5th The account of Indra and Diti in the Bhagavata Purana etc., gives an indication that crystallises the principle. The next example is in the same story of the status of the foetus that turned into Maruts. Because Diti’s penance was so severe, the chopped up foetuses were given the status of “Indrahood” In the Mahabharata of the Adi Parva, Bhima was that of Marut (and Arjuna was that of the celestial King, Indra) as below: I reckon that one who has Rahu in the 5th from AL is to perform the Pumsavanna Rites as suggested in Bhagavata. Any thoughts on this? Love, Swee Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa <sohamsa > Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:49:23 +0100 <sohamsa > Re: Question of Rahu  Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Swee, If you keep serching for references in the classical texts for every statement, then what is the use of Parampara? Everything would be there in the books, so students could easily learn jyotish from the books and classical texts, which is not the case. And another question. How many jyotish texts are available, all? So far, the words of my Guru are classical dictum to me:)) THe statement about the transit is found in many references and texts by Pt. Sanjay Rath, Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevic Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan <sweechan Sohamsa <sohamsa > Friday, March 23, 2007 5:02 PM Re: Question of Rahu Jaya Jagannatha Dear Zoran, Finally what is correct? Visti has already said it: There is NO reference so far. So I DO STRONGLY object to your statement that whatever has been applied is FINALLY CORRECT. In fact, I find it distasteful that you apply something that cannot be referenced and shove it down my throat and tell me that IT IS correct. Love, Swee Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa <sohamsa > Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:17:20 +0100 <sohamsa > Re: Question of Rahu  Om Namah Shivaya, Finally . That is correct.Thanks VIsti, Gaurav, I hope that is clear now, not to mix transit and placements. Zoran Radosavljevic Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> ----- Original Message ----- Visti Larsen <visti sohamsa Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:50 AM Re: Question of Rahu हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Zoran and Gaurav, Namaskar Rahu gives material gains in the trines to arudha DURING TRANSIT. Similarly Ketu in his transit enhances the spiritual pursuits when in trines to Arudha lagna. So this principle is used in transit, whereas i find in natal chart that Rahu in trines to AL will give bad reputation and as Zoran says - machinations by enemies. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> yobrevol wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Aum Durgaye Namah Namaste Zoran ji, Thank you for your post. My mind also says that logically, a dire malefic like Rahu should harm the Arudha, being in trine since it will always aspect it via Graha Dristi. it should put a dent on the image, and not allow the arudha to rise, but as I was reading thru some earlier posts on this list, someone mentioned that parampara teaches rahu in trines to Arudha pada gives material gains... On another note, ppl with natal Jupiter in Arudha pada ( or trines by extension) , since jupiter brings forth the satya about the Arudhapada when in trines to it in transit, by logic should have an " image " that is " real " or their true self (lagna)...? Namaste; Gaurav In a message dated 3/22/2007 8:05:13 A.M. India Standard Time, ahimsa writes: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Gaurav, I am not sure who said so, but what I know is that Rahu in trines to AL gives machinations of enemies and bad fortune. It also causes extra-marital affairs if other factors confirm. I guess you heard that it may give material inclinations which I would say is more correct, rather than material gains. In 5th from Al, It is rather ketu which gives gain, while in 9th from AL it is protector, though it will first snatch away everything and cause a lot of problems with Guru and elders during the Guru transit over its point. Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevic Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com/> ----- Original Message ----- yobrevol vedic astrology ; sohamsa ; Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:22 AM Question of Rahu Hare Rama Krsna Namaste Durgaye Namah Namaste learned, I have a question, why is Rahu in trines to Arudha lagna said to give material gains? Kindly educate. Gaurav AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> . AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Gaurav, Namaste Deva Keralam Bk 3pg 46:2630 vikramaayavyayeshaanaa.n sphuTayoga.n gate phaNau | bhraatR^ihaani.n mahaaroga.n nirdeshodripuviikShite | kujamandaphaNiinaa.n ca sphuTayoga.n gate phaNau ||3.2630|| meaning: add longitudes of lords of 3rd, 11th and 12th. When Rahu transits into this result with the aspect of a planet that is inimical to him, the person incurs loss of a sibling and mahaaroga (great disease). Deva Keralam Bk 3 pg 47:2636 trayaaNaa.n bhaagyanaathaanaa.n guroH candraacca lagnataH | sphuTayoga.n gate raahau bhaagyahaati.n vinirdisot || 3.2636|| meaning: TRANSIT Rahu in the 9th of the longitudinal sums of lord of the 9th with reference to these three: Jupiter, natal Moon and natal ascendant, predict decline in one’s fortune. There maybe other references that is uniquely applied to Rahu’s traversal and only to his traversal, but my understanding is that the reading of a chart is the amalgamation of several planets – one makes the hermit, two a pair and three is the beginning of a party like in curses and blessings. Hence a planet cannot singly give results. My other understanding of which I use frequently (perhaps from an off-shoot of the western application) is to look at the paryaya of slower moving planets – The three, Saturn, Rahu and Jupiter can describe a lot more and can give you a snap view of one’s chart. Because Rahu can “imitate” Guru’s ways, paryayas are important. The changes come in biorhythmic waves – Saturn – Age 1-+/- 30, then +/ 60 and so on Rahu Age 1- +/-18 years, then 36/37 and the third cycle at around 55/56 and so on. Jupiter Age 1 –12; 24, 36, 48, 60 ( you are currently in your 2nd cycle – when I return from my hols, I will detail the cycles for you ) Note that the cycle of Saturn is at its third and Jupiter will be at its 5th in the 60 year cycle – the half way mark of the vimsottari dasa. As for the luminaries, I used to base it on 1degree=1 year for Sun and for the Moon, the Moon Signs book by Sasha gives a rather convoluted method of calculation – but the end result is pretty awesome. As for Rahu in the Arudha Pada, there is some hope for those who have sleepless nights over in your concern: as Deva Keralam Bk 3.2666 pg 49 aarUDhe raahudeSheNa baalye.alpasukhabuddhimaan | kaalaantare campakaa.nshe ravabuddhayaayuktitamaan guNii ||3.2666|| meaning: Rahu in the AL causes limited happiness and intelligence in childhood but with the passing of time, be will become more intelligent and expedient and he will also be virtuous. The other two verses maybe related as it protracts into the persona. verse 2760 details Rahu in the AL will give mental distress in the 5th dasa (alluding to the the paryaya as above) while verse 2751 says that during the last drekkana, there will be increase of enemies, his loved ones wil be in grief and his posperity will be chequered (during the 5th dasa) Of course, timing for these slow moving planets are based on its entry into the sign and the exact timing is the sum of the longitudes as suggested above. In the analysis of transits, other planets have to be involved (graha dishti/conjunction/placement in/from AL) or else there will not be much to say with empty houses is there? .....need to go through all those three books and highlight the relevant. Do you have this collection? Would be a good investment love, Swee In a message dated 3/24/2007 7:52:24 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan writes: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sharat, Namaste I think I may have found the dictum we’ve been searching for, consider Rahu to be a natural malefic: JUS 1:3.34 – Sanjay Rath daridro vipariite If malefics are in the 2nd, 4th, 5th 8th or 9th houses as benefics are in the 3rd and 6th, poverty is indicated. In his notes: Pg 89 ii) similarly, financial downturns can be predicted during the period of benefics in 3rd and 6th and malefics in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th and 9th from the Arudha Lagna. In srimantah yoga, results are to be studied from the AL as well as the AK. I wonder if this can be extended to apply for other yogas? I would presume so as this statement covers all possible aspects. Jupiter in the 12th from AL gives expenses. From your brief, I would think it is your children’s sufferings, health concerns or their safety. If you father is still alive, then his health concerns. Love, Swee Sharat <gidoc <sohamsa > Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:29:27 -0700 <sohamsa > Re: Question of Rahu  ||Hare Ram Krishna|| Dear Swee and Visti, It is indeed interesting to note this discussion. So how will Rahu in these positions effect the native! You can see my example: Rahu is in Lagna(Libra) aspecting 5H and AL(9H, no planets). Further, transit Rahu is in 5H(Aquarius, which also tenants Su-Me-Ve). Saviour is Ju( but vakra) from 12H aspecting AL. Can you guess what has been going on? Regards Sharat ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan <sweechan Sohamsa <sohamsa > Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:11 PM Re: Question of Rahu Jaya Jagannatha Dear Zoran (and Visti), Namaste Still searching and back to my thoughts based on Sanjay ji’s principal: Let me first assume that wealth is through progeny – 5th The account of Indra and Diti in the Bhagavata Purana etc., gives an indication that crystallises the principle. The next example is in the same story of the status of the foetus that turned into Maruts. Because Diti’s penance was so severe, the chopped up foetuses were given the status of “Indrahood” In the Mahabharata of the Adi Parva, Bhima was that of Marut (and Arjuna was that of the celestial King, Indra) as below: I reckon that one who has Rahu in the 5th from AL is to perform the Pumsavanna Rites as suggested in Bhagavata. Any thoughts on this? Love, Swee Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa <sohamsa > Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:49:23 +0100 <sohamsa > Re: Question of Rahu  Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Swee, If you keep serching for references in the classical texts for every statement, then what is the use of Parampara? Everything would be there in the books, so students could easily learn jyotish from the books and classical texts, which is not the case. And another question. How many jyotish texts are available, all? So far, the words of my Guru are classical dictum to me:)) THe statement about the transit is found in many references and texts by Pt. Sanjay Rath, Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevic Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> ----- Original Message ----- Swee Chan <sweechan Sohamsa <sohamsa > Friday, March 23, 2007 5:02 PM Re: Question of Rahu Jaya Jagannatha Dear Zoran, Finally what is correct? Visti has already said it: There is NO reference so far. So I DO STRONGLY object to your statement that whatever has been applied is FINALLY CORRECT. In fact, I find it distasteful that you apply something that cannot be referenced and shove it down my throat and tell me that IT IS correct. Love, Swee Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa <sohamsa > Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:17:20 +0100 <sohamsa > Re: Question of Rahu  Om Namah Shivaya, Finally . That is correct.Thanks VIsti, Gaurav, I hope that is clear now, not to mix transit and placements. Zoran Radosavljevic Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> <http://www.siva-edu.com/> ----- Original Message ----- Visti Larsen <visti sohamsa Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:50 AM Re: Question of Rahu हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Zoran and Gaurav, Namaskar Rahu gives material gains in the trines to arudha DURING TRANSIT. Similarly Ketu in his transit enhances the spiritual pursuits when in trines to Arudha lagna. So this principle is used in transit, whereas i find in natal chart that Rahu in trines to AL will give bad reputation and as Zoran says - machinations by enemies. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda.com/> yobrevol wrote: Hare Rama Krsna Aum Durgaye Namah Namaste Zoran ji, Thank you for your post. My mind also says that logically, a dire malefic like Rahu should harm the Arudha, being in trine since it will always aspect it via Graha Dristi. it should put a dent on the image, and not allow the arudha to rise, but as I was reading thru some earlier posts on this list, someone mentioned that parampara teaches rahu in trines to Arudha pada gives material gains... On another note, ppl with natal Jupiter in Arudha pada ( or trines by extension) , since jupiter brings forth the satya about the Arudhapada when in trines to it in transit, by logic should have an " image " that is " real " or their true self (lagna)...? Namaste; Gaurav In a message dated 3/22/2007 8:05:13 A.M. India Standard Time, ahimsa writes: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Gaurav, I am not sure who said so, but what I know is that Rahu in trines to AL gives machinations of enemies and bad fortune. It also causes extra-marital affairs if other factors confirm. I guess you heard that it may give material inclinations which I would say is more correct, rather than material gains. In 5th from Al, It is rather ketu which gives gain, while in 9th from AL it is protector, though it will first snatch away everything and cause a lot of problems with Guru and elders during the Guru transit over its point. Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevic Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com/> ----- Original Message ----- yobrevol vedic astrology ; sohamsa ; Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:22 AM Question of Rahu Hare Rama Krsna Namaste Durgaye Namah Namaste learned, I have a question, why is Rahu in trines to Arudha lagna said to give material gains? Kindly educate. Gaurav AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> . AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dear Swee, It is nice to see you quoting liberally from Deva Keralam. Love, Chandrashekhar. Swee Chan wrote: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Gaurav, Namaste Deva Keralam Bk 3pg 46:2630 vikramaayavyayeshaanaa.n sphuTayoga.n gate phaNau | bhraatR^ihaani.n mahaaroga.n nirdeshodripuviikShite | kujamandaphaNiinaa.n ca sphuTayoga.n gate phaNau ||3.2630|| meaning: add longitudes of lords of 3rd, 11th and 12th. When Rahu transits into this result with the aspect of a planet that is inimical to him, the person incurs loss of  a sibling and mahaaroga (great disease). Deva Keralam Bk 3 pg 47:2636 trayaaNaa.n bhaagyanaathaanaa.n guroH candraacca lagnataH | sphuTayoga.n gate raahau bhaagyahaati.n vinirdisot || 3.2636|| meaning: TRANSIT Rahu in the 9th of the longitudinal sums of lord of the 9th with reference to these three: Jupiter, natal Moon and natal ascendant, predict decline in one’s fortune.     There maybe other references that is uniquely applied to Rahu’s traversal and only to his traversal, but my understanding is that the reading of a chart is the amalgamation of several planets – one makes the hermit, two a pair and three is the beginning of a party like in curses and blessings. Hence a planet cannot singly give results.     My other understanding of which I use frequently (perhaps from an off-shoot of the western application) is to look at the paryaya of slower moving planets – The three, Saturn, Rahu and Jupiter can describe a lot more and can give you a snap view of one’s chart. Because Rahu can “imitate†Guru’s ways, paryayas are important. The changes come in biorhythmic waves – Saturn – Age 1-+/- 30, then +/ 60 and so on Rahu Age 1- +/-18 years, then 36/37 and the third cycle at around 55/56 and so on. Jupiter Age 1 –12; 24, 36, 48, 60 ( you are currently in your 2nd cycle – when I return from my hols, I will detail the cycles for you ) Note that the cycle of Saturn is at its third and Jupiter will be at its 5th in the 60 year cycle – the half way mark of the vimsottari dasa. As for the luminaries, I used to base it on 1degree=1 year for Sun and for the Moon, the Moon Signs book by Sasha gives a rather convoluted method of calculation – but the end result is pretty awesome. As for Rahu in the Arudha Pada, there is some hope for those who have sleepless nights over in your concern: as Deva Keralam Bk 3.2666 pg 49  aarUDhe raahudeSheNa baalye.alpasukhabuddhimaan | kaalaantare campakaa.nshe ravabuddhayaayuktitamaan guNii ||3.2666|| meaning: Rahu in the AL causes limited happiness and intelligence in childhood but with the passing of time, be will become more intelligent and expedient and he will also be virtuous. The other two verses maybe related as it protracts into the persona. verse 2760 details Rahu in the AL will give mental distress in the 5th dasa (alluding to the the paryaya as above) while verse 2751 says that during the last drekkana, there will be increase of enemies, his loved ones wil be in grief and his posperity will be chequered (during the 5th dasa) Of course, timing for these slow moving planets are based on its entry into the sign and the exact timing is the sum of the longitudes as suggested above. In the analysis of transits, other planets have to be involved (graha dishti/conjunction/placement in/from AL) or else there will not be much to say with empty houses is there? .....need to go through all those three books and highlight the relevant. Do you have this collection? Would be a good investment love, Swee  In a  message dated 3/24/2007 7:52:24 P.M. India Standard Time, sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com  writes:  Jaya Jagannatha Dear   Sharat, Namaste I think I may have found the dictum we’ve  been  searching for, consider Rahu to be a natural malefic: JUS  1:3.34 – Sanjay  Rath daridro vipariite If malefics are  in the 2nd, 4th, 5th 8th  or 9th houses as benefics are in the 3rd and  6th, poverty is  indicated. In his notes: Pg 89 ii)  similarly, financial  downturns can be predicted during the period  of benefics in 3rd and 6th  and malefics in 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th and  9th from the Arudha Lagna. In  srimantah yoga, results are to be  studied from the AL as well as the AK. I  wonder if this can be  extended to apply for other yogas? I would presume so as  this  statement covers all possible aspects. Jupiter in the 12th from AL   gives expenses. From your brief, I would think it is your children’s   sufferings, health concerns or their safety. If you father is still  alive,  then his health  concerns. Love, Swee   Sharat <gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org>   <sohamsa > Sat, 24 Mar 2007  06:29:27  -0700  <sohamsa > Re:   Question of Rahu       ||Hare Ram  Krishna|| Dear  Swee and Visti, It is indeed  interesting to note this  discussion. So how will Rahu in these  positions effect the native! You can  see my example: Rahu is in  Lagna(Libra) aspecting 5H and AL(9H, no  planets). Further, transit  Rahu is in 5H(Aquarius, which also tenants  Su-Me-Ve). Saviour is  Ju( but vakra) from 12H aspecting  AL. Can you guess  what has been going on? Regards Sharat   -----   Original Message -----   Swee Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com>     Sohamsa <sohamsa >     Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:11    PM  Re: Question of    Rahu    Jaya    Jagannatha Dear Zoran (and  Visti), Namaste Still  searching  and back to my  thoughts based on Sanjay ji’s  principal: Let me first   assume that wealth is through progeny –  5th The account of  Indra and Diti  in the Bhagavata Purana etc.,  gives an  indication that crystallises the  principle. The next   example is in the same story of the status of the  foetus that  turned  into Maruts. Because Diti’s penance was so severe, the   chopped up  foetuses were given the status of “Indrahood†In  the Mahabharata  of  the Adi Parva, Bhima was that of Marut (and  Arjuna was that of the   celestial King, Indra) as  below: I reckon that one who  has  Rahu in the 5th  from AL is to perform the Pumsavanna Rites as  suggested in   Bhagavata. Any thoughts on   this? Love, Swee    Zoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa.yu>    <sohamsa > Sat, 24  Mar 2007   03:49:23 +0100    <sohamsa > Re:    Question of  Rahu        Om Namah  Shivaya, Dear   Swee, If you keep serching for references in the classical   texts  for every statement, then what is the use of  Parampara? Everything   would be there in the books, so  students could easily learn jyotish  from the  books and  classical texts, which is not the case. And  another question. How   many jyotish texts are available, all? So far,  the words of my  Guru are  classical dictum to me:)) THe statement  about the  transit is found in many  references and texts by Pt. Sanjay   Rath, Best wishes Zoran Zoran   Radosavljevic Administrator  at SIVA  INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com> <http://www.siva-edu.com/>  <http://www.siva-edu.com/>       -----    Original Message -----   Swee  Chan <sweechan (AT) mac (DOT) com>      Sohamsa <sohamsa >      Friday, March 23, 2007 5:02    PM  Re: Question of     Rahu    Jaya     Jagannatha Dear Zoran, Finally what is  correct?  Visti  has  already said it: There is NO  reference so far. So I  DO STRONGLY  object to your   statement that whatever has been  applied is FINALLY   CORRECT. In fact, I  find it distasteful  that you  apply something  that cannot be referenced and  shove  it  down my throat and tell me that  IT IS    correct. Love, Swee     Zoran Radosavljevic    <ahimsa.yu>     <sohamsa >  Thu, 22  Mar  2007  11:17:20 +0100     <sohamsa >  Re:    Question of   Rahu         Om Namah   Shivaya, Finally  . That  is correct.Thanks VIsti,  Gaurav, I hope that is  clear  now, not to mix  transit  and placements. Zoran   Radosavljevic Administrator at   SIVA  INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com> <http://www.siva-edu.com/>  <http://www.siva-edu.com/>         -----     Original Message -----     Visti   Larsen  <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>        sohamsa      Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:50      AM  Re:  Question  of     Rahu    हरे   राम   कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥  Dear Zoran and Gaurav,   Namaskar Rahu  gives  material gains in the trines   to  arudha DURING TRANSIT.  Similarly Ketu  in  his transit  enhances the spiritual  pursuits  when in  trines to   Arudha lagna. So this principle is used in    transit,  whereas i find  in natal chart that  Rahu in trines to  AL will  give bad  reputation and   as Zoran says - machinations   by  enemies.  Yours sincerely,  --   Visti  Larsen - SJC  Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark   email:   visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For   consultations,  free mp3's and  articles  visit:  http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com/>  <http://srigaruda.com/>    <http://srigaruda.com> <http://srigaruda.com/>  <http://srigaruda.com/>      yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:            Hare Rama  Krsna Aum  Durgaye    Namah   Namaste Zoran  ji,   Thank you for your post. My mind also  says that logically,  a    dire malefic like  Rahu should harm the Arudha,  being in  trine since   it will  always aspect it via  Graha Dristi. it   should put a dent on  the image, and   not  allow the arudha to  rise, but as I was reading    thru some earlier posts  on this  list,  someone  mentioned that  parampara teaches rahu in trines  to    Arudha pada gives material    gains...   On another note, ppl with natal  Jupiter in Arudha pada ( or     trines by  extension) , since jupiter brings forth   the  satya   about the Arudhapada when in trines to it  in transit, by   logic   should have an "image" that is  "real"  or their true  self     (lagna)...?   Namaste; Gaurav   In a    message   dated 3/22/2007 8:05:13 A.M. India  Standard  Time,   ahimsa.yu  writes:     Om Namah      Shivaya, Dear    Gaurav, I am not sure who said so,  but  what I know    is that Rahu in trines to AL gives  machinations  of   enemies and bad  fortune. It also causes    extra-marital affairs if  other factors confirm.  I   guess  you heard that it may give material    inclinations which I would  say  is more  correct,  rather than  material gains. In 5th  from  Al, It is rather   ketu which gives  gain, while in  9th  from AL it is  protector, though it  will  first  snatch away   everything and cause a lot of  problems with Guru  and    elders during the  Guru transit over its point.    Best   wishes Zoran Zoran   Radosavljevic Administrator at   SIVA    INSTITUTE www.siva-edu.com <http://www.siva-edu.com/>         ----- Original Message    -----    yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com       vedic astrology  ;    sohamsa ;      Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:22     AM   Question of     Rahu  Hare   Rama   Krsna  Namaste Durgaye     Namah    Namaste     learned,    I  have a  question,  why is  Rahu in trines to  Arudha lagna said  to  give  material    gains?    Kindly     educate.    Gaurav       AOL now offers free email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free  from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339>   .  AOL now offers free email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> .. 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