RE: To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Guys,

Namaskar

Relax. As

Swee has confirmed, this list comes from the Delhi

conference; however, already in 2004, New

York, Sanjayji was teaching this scheme. The confusion

comes after reading his book Vedic Remedies in Astrology where he has exchanged

the Jyotirlingas of Leo and Scorpio.

Now, just

as you are questioning this now, so also did Freedom spot and question this

exchange back in 2004. Point is that the two: vaidyanatha and ghrshanesha

symbolize healing and disease/transformation respectively. Now, of what good is

it to be a doctor/healer if no sick people are coming to you? Similarly, what

good is there in being sick if you cannot recover and be healthy?

Due to this

predicament the Jyotirlingas of Scorpio (natural 8th) and Leo

(natural 5th) were initially exchanged.

But their

actual forms are as per the scheme that i gave on the list recently, i.e.

Grshanesha in Scorpio and Vaidyanatha in Leo.

I hope this

clarifies everything.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Swee Chan

09 March 2006 08:45

 

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam

prapadye. "

" Namo

gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarbani,

Namaste

 

I have it as Ghushmesha (8th

Sign – Scorpio) in my notes from the Delhi conference. The 5th is

Vaidyanaathaa.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sarbani

Sarkar

Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:07 AM

 

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru

Smarami

 

Dear Sourav,

 

Yes, it is

Ghrshneshwar. The table used by Visti is the one presented by Sanjayji at

the Delhi Conference (I think).

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sourav

[souravc108]

Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:32 PM

 

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

|| Hare Rama Krishna

||

Dear Sarasalai-ji and Twinkle-ji,

namaskar. Yes, there is confusion and let us wait for Visti-ji's

response. Looks like the 5th and the 8th rasis are switched between

these two tables ( by Visti-ji and Freedom-ji). However let me point out

that in Freedom-ji's table " Dhusanesha " is given corresponding

to the Leo rasi. However I couldn't find this name in the list elsewhere. I

suppose it should be Ghrishneshwara or Ghurmeshwara or Ghushmeshwara. The

related stories are given here: http://www.badarikedar.org/12_jyotirlings.htm

Best

wishes,

Sourav

===========================================================================

, " sarasalai_siva "

<sarasalai_siva wrote:

>

> , Twinkle Vijaywargiya

> mrs_vijaywargiya@ wrote:

> >

> > dear friend!

> > i had the same confusion and vistiji has replied me ....the

> > vaidyanath jyotirlingam is like a remedy for 5th house that is and

> > ghreshnaesh for 8th house.... i dont know how much i am able to

> > express the actual meaning but hope it helps...

> > best regards

> > twinkle

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- sarasalai_siva sarasalai_siva@ wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > || Jaya Jagannatha ||

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Pranams Guru Visti ji,

> > >

> > > Following para is taken from Shri Freedom Vidya's site where he

> > > says

> > > the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is " Aum Namah Shivaya

Namo

> > > Vaidyanathaya . "

> > >

> > > " Vaidyanath is Shiva as the devine physician. Vaidya is

the

> > > sanskrit word for doctor which litterally means one who has the

> > > knowledge, and nath means lord. From the vedas, Rudra was called

> > > the

> > > first physician. Shiva is the modern day form of Rudra.

> Vaidyanath

> > > has an eight house connection being associated with Scorpio, the

 

> > > natural ruller of the eight house. It is healing that has to do

> > > with

> > > holistic modalities working on the spritual and pschological as

> > > well

> > > as physical level of healing . "

> > >

> > > So The the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is based on

Vaidyanath.

> > >

> > > But you have given this Jyotirlinga mantra for Leo Rasi.

> > >

> > > Could you clear my doubt/confusion ?

> > >

> > > Guruji needless to say how keenly I am studying your lessions.

> > > My purpose is to get more knowledge on this subject.

> > >

> > >

> > > sarasalai_siva

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Visti,

 

Just to supplement, Guruji taught us in class way back in 2002, that Scorpio was related to Vaidyanath and Ghrishneshwar to Leo. Unfortunately, as I mentioned to you separately one of 2002 notebooks, my Puri Parasara class notebook and all 2003-2004 notebooks have been stolen. By divine grace, my Mantra and Spirituality notebook is kept elsewhere, namely my bedroom which is under lock and key in my absence.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen [visti] Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:10 PM ; sohamsa Subject: RE: To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

 

 

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Guys, Namaskar

Relax. As Swee has confirmed, this list comes from the Delhi conference; however, already in 2004, New York, Sanjayji was teaching this scheme. The confusion comes after reading his book Vedic Remedies in Astrology where he has exchanged the Jyotirlingas of Leo and Scorpio.

Now, just as you are questioning this now, so also did Freedom spot and question this exchange back in 2004. Point is that the two: vaidyanatha and ghrshanesha symbolize healing and disease/transformation respectively. Now, of what good is it to be a doctor/healer if no sick people are coming to you? Similarly, what good is there in being sick if you cannot recover and be healthy?

Due to this predicament the Jyotirlingas of Scorpio (natural 8th) and Leo (natural 5th) were initially exchanged.

But their actual forms are as per the scheme that i gave on the list recently, i.e. Grshanesha in Scorpio and Vaidyanatha in Leo.

I hope this clarifies everything.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Swee Chan09 March 2006 08:45 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

 

"Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam

prapadye."

"Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam"

 

 

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarbani,

Namaste

 

I have it as Ghushmesha (8th Sign – Scorpio) in my notes from the Delhi conference. The 5th is Vaidyanaathaa.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarThursday, March 09, 2006 5:07 AM Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Sourav,

 

Yes, it is Ghrshneshwar. The table used by Visti is the one presented by Sanjayji at the Delhi Conference (I think).

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sourav [souravc108] Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Sarasalai-ji and Twinkle-ji,

namaskar. Yes, there is confusion and let us wait for Visti-ji's response. Looks like the 5th and the 8th rasis are switched between these two tables ( by Visti-ji and Freedom-ji). However let me point out that in Freedom-ji's table "Dhusanesha" is given corresponding to the Leo rasi. However I couldn't find this name in the list elsewhere. I suppose it should be Ghrishneshwara or Ghurmeshwara or Ghushmeshwara. The related stories are given here: http://www.badarikedar.org/12_jyotirlings.htm

Best wishes,

Sourav

=========================================================================== , "sarasalai_siva" <sarasalai_siva wrote:>> , Twinkle Vijaywargiya > mrs_vijaywargiya@ wrote:> >> > dear friend!> > i had the same confusion and vistiji has replied me ....the> > vaidyanath jyotirlingam is like a remedy for 5th house that is and> > ghreshnaesh for 8th house.... i dont know how much i am able to> > express the actual meaning but hope it helps...> > best regards> > twinkle> > > > > > > > > > --- sarasalai_siva sarasalai_siva@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannatha ||> > > > > > > > > > > > Pranams Guru Visti ji,> > > > > > Following para is taken from Shri Freedom Vidya's site where he> > > says > > > the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is " Aum Namah Shivaya Namo > > > Vaidyanathaya . "> > > > > > " Vaidyanath is Shiva as the devine physician. Vaidya is the > > > sanskrit word for doctor which litterally means one who has the > > > knowledge, and nath means lord. From the vedas, Rudra was called> > > the > > > first physician. Shiva is the modern day form of Rudra. > Vaidyanath > > > has an eight house connection being associated with Scorpio, the > > > natural ruller of the eight house. It is healing that has to do> > > with > > > holistic modalities working on the spritual and pschological as> > > well > > > as physical level of healing ."> > > > > > So The the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is based on Vaidyanath.> > > > > > But you have given this Jyotirlinga mantra for Leo Rasi.> > > > > > Could you clear my doubt/confusion ?> > > > > > Guruji needless to say how keenly I am studying your lessions.> > > My purpose is to get more knowledge on this subject.> > > > > > > > > sarasalai_siva> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hari Rama Krsna

 

Sarasalai Siva, confusion is good sometimes and helps us to do more research

and meditation. The Vedas give multiple creation stories, and then say ‘Who

really knows’. In Vedic teachings there are often different views on the

same thing, sometimes similar and sometimes contradictory; a view from the bottom

of the mountain or a view from the top of the mountain.

 

Visti, there is more to the switch that

guruji has not taught fully yet. The deeper significance will be seen with some

longevity research. The switch of the 5th and 8th Jyotirlinga has to do with whether you have a body or not. Notice

when guruji taught Tithi Jyotirlingas that Vaidyanath was associated with the 8th house, this is for an unembodied

soul getting ready to take birth. But when you worship the Jyotir Linga of the Sun, AK, MKS planet, etc., it is for the

embodied being that we are referring to, and Vaidyanath

then relates to the 5th house. What is being healed or transforming

when you have no body versus when you have a body? Why is the third from the

third becoming more important than the third itself (eighth from the eighth).

 

Sarbani, my 2004 notebook (my favorite) has

disappeared as well, interesting karma, and a real test to the memory. It disappeared

directly after the 2005 west coast conference.

 

If someone could forward any such mails

involving my notes/web-writing to my personal mail when they come on the list I

would appreciate it. Generally I only read titles that sound interesting because

of time constraints. Thank You.

 

Namah Sivaya

 

 

 

 

 

Sarbani Sarkar

[sarbani]

Thursday, March 09, 2006

1:31 AM

sohamsa

RE: RE: To

Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru

Smarami

 

Dear Visti,

 

Just to supplement,

Guruji taught us in class way back in 2002, that Scorpio was related to

Vaidyanath and Ghrishneshwar to Leo. Unfortunately, as I mentioned to you

separately one of 2002 notebooks, my Puri Parasara class notebook and all

2003-2004 notebooks have been stolen. By divine grace, my Mantra and

Spirituality notebook is kept elsewhere, namely my bedroom which is under lock

and key in my absence.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen [visti]

Thursday, March 09, 2006

2:10 PM

;

sohamsa

RE: To Visti Ji

: Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Guys,

Namaskar

Relax. As

Swee has confirmed, this list comes from the Delhi

conference; however, already in 2004, New

York, Sanjayji was teaching this scheme. The

confusion comes after reading his book Vedic Remedies in Astrology where he has

exchanged the Jyotirlingas of Leo and Scorpio.

Now, just

as you are questioning this now, so also did Freedom spot and question this

exchange back in 2004. Point is that the two: vaidyanatha and ghrshanesha

symbolize healing and disease/transformation respectively. Now, of what good is

it to be a doctor/healer if no sick people are coming to you? Similarly, what

good is there in being sick if you cannot recover and be healthy?

Due to this

predicament the Jyotirlingas of Scorpio (natural 8th) and Leo

(natural 5th) were initially exchanged.

But their

actual forms are as per the scheme that i gave on the list recently, i.e. Grshanesha

in Scorpio and Vaidyanatha in Leo.

I hope this

clarifies everything.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti

Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com

***

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Swee Chan

09 March 2006 08:45

 

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

 

 

" Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam

prapadye. "

" Namo

gopijana-vallabhabhyam "

 

 

 

 

 

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sarbani,

Namaste

 

I have it as Ghushmesha (8th

Sign – Scorpio) in my notes from the Delhi conference. The 5th is

Vaidyanaathaa.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sarbani

Sarkar

Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:07 AM

 

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

 

 

Shri Brahmadaru

Smarami

 

Dear Sourav,

 

Yes, it is

Ghrshneshwar. The table used by Visti is the one presented by Sanjayji at

the Delhi Conference (I think).

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sourav

[souravc108]

Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:32 PM

 

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra

|| Hare Rama Krishna

||

Dear Sarasalai-ji and Twinkle-ji,

namaskar. Yes, there is confusion and let us wait for Visti-ji's

response. Looks like the 5th and the 8th rasis are switched between

these two tables ( by Visti-ji and Freedom-ji). However let me point out

that in Freedom-ji's table " Dhusanesha " is given corresponding

to the Leo rasi. However I couldn't find this name in the list elsewhere. I

suppose it should be Ghrishneshwara or Ghurmeshwara or Ghushmeshwara. The

related stories are given here: http://www.badarikedar.org/12_jyotirlings.htm

Best

wishes,

Sourav

===========================================================================

,

" sarasalai_siva " <sarasalai_siva wrote:

>

> ,

Twinkle Vijaywargiya

> mrs_vijaywargiya@ wrote:

> >

> > dear friend!

> > i had the same confusion and vistiji has replied me ....the

> > vaidyanath jyotirlingam is like a remedy for 5th house that is and

> > ghreshnaesh for 8th house.... i dont know how much i am able to

> > express the actual meaning but hope it helps...

> > best regards

> > twinkle

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- sarasalai_siva sarasalai_siva@ wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > || Jaya Jagannatha ||

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Pranams Guru Visti ji,

> > >

> > > Following para is taken from Shri Freedom Vidya's site where he

> > > says

> > > the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is " Aum Namah Shivaya

Namo

> > > Vaidyanathaya . "

> > >

> > > " Vaidyanath is Shiva as the devine physician. Vaidya is

the

> > > sanskrit word for doctor which litterally means one who has the

> > > knowledge, and nath means lord. From the vedas, Rudra was called

> > > the

> > > first physician. Shiva is the modern day form of Rudra.

> Vaidyanath

> > > has an eight house connection being associated with Scorpio, the

 

> > > natural ruller of the eight house. It is healing that has to do

> > > with

> > > holistic modalities working on the spritual and pschological as

> > > well

> > > as physical level of healing . "

> > >

> > > So The the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is based on

Vaidyanath.

> > >

> > > But you have given this Jyotirlinga mantra for Leo Rasi.

> > >

> > > Could you clear my doubt/confusion ?

> > >

> > > Guruji needless to say how keenly I am studying your lessions.

> > > My purpose is to get more knowledge on this subject.

> > >

> > >

> > > sarasalai_siva

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear FRIENDS, Kindly remember 5th house is 10th house from 8th house,thus the remedy prescrived for 5th house will improve the indications in 8th house. G.K.GOEL , freedom <freedom wrote: Hari Rama Krsna Sarasalai Siva, confusion is good sometimes and helps us to do more research and meditation. The Vedas give multiple creation stories, and then say ‘Who really knows’. In Vedic teachings there are often different views on the same thing, sometimes similar and sometimes contradictory; a view from the bottom of the mountain or a view from the top of the mountain. Visti, there is more to the switch that guruji has not taught fully yet. The deeper significance will be seen with some longevity research. The switch of the 5th and 8th Jyotirlinga has to do with whether you have a body or not. Notice when guruji taught Tithi Jyotirlingas that Vaidyanath was associated with the 8th house, this is for an unembodied soul getting ready to take birth. But when you worship the Jyotir Linga of the Sun, AK, MKS planet, etc., it is for the embodied being that we are referring to, and Vaidyanath then relates to the 5th house. What is being healed or transforming when you have no body versus when

you have a body? Why is the third from the third becoming more important than the third itself (eighth from the eighth). Sarbani, my 2004 notebook (my favorite) has disappeared as well, interesting karma, and a real test to the memory. It disappeared directly after the 2005 west coast conference. If someone could forward any such

mails involving my notes/web-writing to my personal mail when they come on the list I would appreciate it. Generally I only read titles that sound interesting because of time constraints. Thank You. Namah Sivaya Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani] Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:31 AM sohamsa RE: RE: To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, Just to supplement, Guruji taught us in class way back in 2002, that Scorpio was related to Vaidyanath and Ghrishneshwar to Leo. Unfortunately, as I mentioned to you separately one of 2002 notebooks, my Puri Parasara class notebook and all 2003-2004 notebooks have been stolen. By divine grace, my Mantra and Spirituality

notebook is kept elsewhere, namely my bedroom which is under lock and key in my absence. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti] Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:10 PM ; sohamsa RE: To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guys, Namaskar Relax. As Swee has confirmed, this list comes from the Delhi conference; however, already in 2004, New York, Sanjayji was teaching this scheme. The confusion comes after reading his book Vedic Remedies in Astrology where he has exchanged the Jyotirlingas of Leo and Scorpio. Now, just as you are questioning this now, so also did Freedom spot and question this exchange back in 2004. Point is that the two: vaidyanatha and ghrshanesha symbolize healing and disease/transformation respectively. Now, of what good is it to be a doctor/healer if no sick people are coming to you? Similarly, what good is there in being sick if

you cannot recover and be healthy? Due to this predicament the Jyotirlingas of Scorpio (natural 8th) and Leo (natural 5th) were initially exchanged. But their actual forms are as per the scheme that i gave on the list recently, i.e. Grshanesha in Scorpio and Vaidyanatha in Leo. I hope this clarifies everything. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and

articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Swee Chan 09 March 2006 08:45 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji :

Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra "Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam prapadye.Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam" Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste I have it as Ghushmesha (8th Sign – Scorpio) in my notes from the Delhi conference. The 5th is Vaidyanaathaa. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:07 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Sourav, Yes, it is Ghrshneshwar. The table used by Visti is the one presented by Sanjayji at the Delhi Conference (I think). Best Regards, Sarbani Sourav [souravc108] Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:32 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Sarasalai-ji and Twinkle-ji, namaskar. Yes, there is confusion and let us wait for Visti-ji's response. Looks like the 5th and the 8th rasis are switched between these two tables ( by Visti-ji and Freedom-ji). However let me point out that in Freedom-ji's table "Dhusanesha" is given corresponding to the Leo rasi. However I couldn't find this name in the list elsewhere. I suppose it should be Ghrishneshwara or Ghurmeshwara or Ghushmeshwara. The related stories are given here: http://www.badarikedar.org/12_jyotirlings.htm Best wishes, Sourav =========================================================================== , "sarasalai_siva" <sarasalai_siva wrote: > > , Twinkle Vijaywargiya > mrs_vijaywargiya@ wrote: > > > > dear friend! > > i had the same confusion and vistiji has replied me ....the > > vaidyanath jyotirlingam is like a remedy for

5th house that is and > > ghreshnaesh for 8th house.... i dont know how much i am able to > > express the actual meaning but hope it helps... > > best regards > > twinkle > > > > > > > > > > --- sarasalai_siva sarasalai_siva@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannatha || > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranams Guru Visti ji, > > > > > > Following para is taken from Shri Freedom Vidya's site where he > > > says > > > the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is " Aum Namah Shivaya Namo > > > Vaidyanathaya . " > > > > > > " Vaidyanath is Shiva as the devine physician. Vaidya is the > > > sanskrit word for doctor which litterally means one who has the >

> > knowledge, and nath means lord. From the vedas, Rudra was called > > > the > > > first physician. Shiva is the modern day form of Rudra. > Vaidyanath > > > has an eight house connection being associated with Scorpio, the > > > natural ruller of the eight house. It is healing that has to do > > > with > > > holistic modalities working on the spritual and pschological as > > > well > > > as physical level of healing ." > > > > > > So The the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is based on Vaidyanath. > > > > > > But you have given this Jyotirlinga mantra for Leo Rasi. > > > > > > Could you clear my doubt/confusion ? > > > > > > Guruji needless to say how keenly I am studying your lessions. > > > My purpose is to get more

knowledge on this subject. > > > > > > > > > sarasalai_siva > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear FRIENDS,Kindly remember 5th house is 10th house from 8th house,thus the remedy prescrived for 5th house will improve the indications in 8th house.G.K.GOEL,freedom <freedom wrote: Hari Rama Krsna Sarasalai

Siva, confusion is good sometimes and helps us to do more research and meditation. The Vedas give multiple creation stories, and then say ‘Who really knows’. In Vedic teachings there are often different views on the same thing, sometimes similar and sometimes contradictory; a view from the bottom of the mountain or a view from the top of the mountain. Visti, there is more to the switch that guruji has not taught fully yet. The deeper significance will be seen with some longevity research. The switch of the 5th and 8th Jyotirlinga has to do with whether you have a body or not. Notice when guruji taught Tithi Jyotirlingas that Vaidyanath was associated with the 8th house, this is for an unembodied soul getting ready to take birth. But when you worship the Jyotir Linga of the Sun, AK, MKS planet, etc., it is for the embodied being that we are referring to, and Vaidyanath then relates to the 5th house. What is being healed or transforming when you have no body versus when you have a body? Why is the third from the third becoming more important than the third itself (eighth from the eighth). Sarbani, my 2004 notebook

(my favorite) has disappeared as well, interesting karma, and a real test to the memory. It disappeared directly after the 2005 west coast conference. If someone could forward any such mails involving my notes/web-writing to my personal mail when they come on the list I would appreciate it. Generally I only read titles that sound interesting because of time constraints. Thank You. Namah Sivaya Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani] Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:31 AMsohamsa Subject: RE: RE: To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, Just to supplement, Guruji taught us in class way back in 2002, that Scorpio was related to Vaidyanath and Ghrishneshwar to Leo. Unfortunately, as I mentioned to you separately one of 2002 notebooks, my Puri Parasara class notebook and all 2003-2004 notebooks have been stolen. By divine grace, my Mantra and Spirituality notebook is kept elsewhere, namely my bedroom which is under lock and key in my absence. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti] Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:10 PM ; sohamsa Subject: RE: To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guys, Namaskar Relax. As Swee has confirmed, this list comes from the Delhi conference; however, already in 2004, New York, Sanjayji was teaching this scheme. The confusion comes after reading his book Vedic Remedies in Astrology where he has exchanged the Jyotirlingas of Leo and Scorpio. Now, just as you are questioning this now, so also did Freedom spot and question this exchange back in 2004. Point is that the two: vaidyanatha and ghrshanesha symbolize healing and disease/transformation

respectively. Now, of what good is it to be a doctor/healer if no sick people are coming to you? Similarly, what good is there in being sick if you cannot recover and be healthy? Due to this predicament the Jyotirlingas of Scorpio (natural 8th) and Leo (natural 5th) were initially exchanged. But their actual forms are as per the scheme that i gave on the list recently, i.e. Grshanesha in Scorpio and Vaidyanatha in Leo. I hope this

clarifies everything. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and

articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Swee Chan09 March 2006 08:45 Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra "Gopijana-vallabha-caranau sharanam prapadye.Namo gopijana-vallabhabhyam"

Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sarbani, Namaste I have it as Ghushmesha (8th Sign – Scorpio) in my notes from the Delhi conference. The 5th is Vaidyanaathaa. Love, Swee On Behalf Of Sarbani SarkarThursday, March 09, 2006 5:07

AM Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Sourav, Yes, it is Ghrshneshwar. The table used by Visti is the one presented by Sanjayji at the Delhi Conference (I think). Best Regards, Sarbani Sourav [souravc108] Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] To Visti Ji : Confusion on Jyothirlinga Mantra || Hare Rama Krishna || Dear Sarasalai-ji and

Twinkle-ji, namaskar. Yes, there is confusion and let us wait for Visti-ji's response. Looks like the 5th and the 8th rasis are switched between these two tables ( by Visti-ji and Freedom-ji). However let me point out that in Freedom-ji's table "Dhusanesha" is given corresponding to the Leo rasi. However I couldn't find this name in the list elsewhere. I suppose it should be Ghrishneshwara or Ghurmeshwara or Ghushmeshwara. The related stories are given here: http://www.badarikedar.org/12_jyotirlings.htm Best wishes, Sourav =========================================================================== , "sarasalai_siva" <sarasalai_siva wrote:>> , Twinkle Vijaywargiya > mrs_vijaywargiya@ wrote:> >> > dear friend!> > i had the same confusion and vistiji has replied me ....the> > vaidyanath jyotirlingam is like a remedy for 5th house that is and> >

ghreshnaesh for 8th house.... i dont know how much i am able to> > express the actual meaning but hope it helps...> > best regards> > twinkle> > > > > > > > > > --- sarasalai_siva sarasalai_siva@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannatha ||> > > > > > > > > > > > Pranams Guru Visti ji,> > > > > > Following para is taken from Shri Freedom Vidya's site where he> > > says > > > the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is " Aum Namah Shivaya Namo > > > Vaidyanathaya . "> > > > > > " Vaidyanath is Shiva as the devine physician. Vaidya is the > > > sanskrit word for doctor which litterally means one who has the > > > knowledge, and nath means lord. From the vedas, Rudra was called> >

> the > > > first physician. Shiva is the modern day form of Rudra. > Vaidyanath > > > has an eight house connection being associated with Scorpio, the > > > natural ruller of the eight house. It is healing that has to do> > > with > > > holistic modalities working on the spritual and pschological as> > > well > > > as physical level of healing ."> > > > > > So The the Jyotirlinga mantra for Scorpio is based on Vaidyanath.> > > > > > But you have given this Jyotirlinga mantra for Leo Rasi.> > > > > > Could you clear my doubt/confusion ?> > > > > > Guruji needless to say how keenly I am studying your lessions.> > > My purpose is to get more knowledge on this subject.> > > > > > > > > sarasalai_siva> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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