Guest guest Posted September 8, 1999 Report Share Posted September 8, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear Nikolay, Argala is an intervention of outside influences on a house or significator. These are normally inanimate like a beneficial ketu argala on Jupiter can give assets like aeroplanes! (This is anextreme position and experience is the best teacher in handling argala). Graha's are animate or movable objects like men and Graha dristi indicates desire of individuals or the native himself. Rasi dristi are permanent aspects of the signs. Both Rasi and Graha dristi are to be applied simultaneously. Rasi dristi is a permanent aspect while Graha dristi only moulds the desire of the object. For example, Saturn's aspect brings sorrow. If saturn aspects the second, this could be with regard to family and so on. These are very qualitative as the sorrow always comes due to an incorrect perception or desire. Best Regards, Sanjay Rath Sri Jagannath Vedic Center 152B Pocket-C, Mayur Vihar Ph-2, Delhi, INDIA 110091. Tel:+91-11-2489531 Webpage:1. http://way.to/srath - Nikolai Agafonov <root <sjvc Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:42 PM [sjvc] Argala,graha dristi,rasi dristi > Hare Krishna! > > Dear Sanjai Ji! > I have a small question. > When, at the analysis of a horoscope, apply Argala, when graha dristi ,when rasi dristi? > Many thank. > > Best regards and Hari Bol. > --- > Nikolay Agafonov.Director > Private Enterprise " Kantimala " > Kaspersky Lab (AVP) Distributor > 294018,UKRAINE,Uzhgorod-18,P.O.Box 72 > Tel./fax:+380 (3122) 2-46-02 > root > www.kantimala.uzhgorod.ua > > > ------ > MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. > Start with up to 150 Points for joining! > http://clickhere./click/805 > > > eGroups.com home: sjvc > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 1999 Report Share Posted September 12, 1999 Dear Gurudev, Hare Krsihna! Jaya Jagannath! Another little point of confusion. You drow the differnce between the planets and rasis that the former manifest more like the persons and their desires/perceptions and the latter - like inanimate things/environment. Do we have to understand that we have some control over the planetary influences - by means of our spiritual consciousness and on the other hand the rashi- things are more or less the facts we (will) have live with and take them as Krishna's desire? Now while the Rashi-drishtis are permanet, the planets situated in the Rashis also aspect signs as per Rashi Drishti. Should we drow then that the planets have two types of drishties: 1) Those as per Rashi drishti - which are permanet and which we cannot influence much 2) Those as per Graha drishti - which are perceptional (though unfortunately almost unconquerable for the majority of people) and which can be dealt with by spiritual consciousness. your servant Yasomatinandana das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear YND, Parasara is clear when he says that the planets represents people. Whether we control people or they control us is another thing. Rasi's are inanimate things. Like a table or a bed and we can also control these things. Do not bring control into this understanding as it is a different issue. Best Wishes, Sanjay Rath - YND <vedant <varahamihira >; <sjvc > Cc: SJVC Astrology Class <varahamihira > Sunday, September 12, 1999 9:32 PM Re: [sjvc] Argala,graha dristi,rasi dristi > Dear Gurudev, > > Hare Krsihna! Jaya Jagannath! > > Another little point of confusion. You drow the differnce between the > planets and rasis that the former manifest more like the persons and their > desires/perceptions and the latter - like inanimate things/environment. > > Do we have to understand that we have some control over the planetary > influences - by means of our spiritual consciousness and on the other hand > the rashi- things are more or less the facts we (will) have live with and > take them as Krishna's desire? > > Now while the Rashi-drishtis are permanet, the planets situated in the > Rashis also aspect signs as per Rashi Drishti. Should we drow then that the > planets have two types of drishties: > > 1) Those as per Rashi drishti - which are permanet and which we cannot > influence much > 2) Those as per Graha drishti - which are perceptional (though unfortunately > almost unconquerable for the majority of people) and which can be dealt with > by spiritual consciousness. > > your servant > Yasomatinandana das > > > ------ > > eGroups.com home: varahamihira > - Simplifying group communications > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 1999 Report Share Posted September 15, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATHDear YND, Argala is a different thing altogether (Later Class, as we progress). The answer to Rasi dristi is below: - YND <vedant <varahamihira > Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:20 PM Argala,graha dristi,rasi dristi > Dear Gurudev,> Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath!> > >Rasi's are> >inanimate things. Like a table or a bed and we can also control these> >things.> > 1. Thank you. Now it is stated that the rashi drishties also convey> influence of the planets situated in them. How is that? Should we understand> that it is because the planets modify the surrounding signified by the sign> it owns - which further conveys to another sign by Rashi-drishti. And again> that respective sign or surrounding influences the planets which own it. RATH: Imagine two houses facing each other in the opposite sides of a street. Let us call one Aries and the other Scorpio as these houses aspect each other. Now, the planets stationed in these signs are like people staying in the houses. What happens if these people are friendly to each other, like a priest Jupiter in Aries, the Mantras he says in the morning is going to be beneficial for the house in front as well. as the house and its occupants also benefit from the association with their front door neighbour. What happens if someone tells you that a Criminal has come to live in the house opposite yours? You have not met the criminal, yet there is going to be an apprehension. This is the effect of Rasi Dristi. These are permanent aspects caused due to the signs. They decide your reaction to information and other inputs from the Nature. Application of Rasi Dristi is vital in Jyotish. For example, you will recall how I had explained the Sarpa Yoga and the war in Yogoslavia. It ended as expected when Jupiter entered Aries and broke the sarpa yoga. Now, when Mars moved into Scorpio, it has dristi in its own house and the reconstruction of the place has begun as Mars favours its sign. > 2. You gave very nice analogies. Could you please extend those analogies (or> give others) to explain the difference between Argala and Rashi-drishti.> > your sisya> Yasomatinandana dasRATH: Argala means intervention while Dristi means aspect. Argala may have dristi, while the vice-versa is not assured. Hare Rama Krishna, Sanjay Rath> ------> MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. > Start with up to 150 Points for joining!> http://clickhere./click/805> > > eGroups.com home: varahamihira> - Simplifying group communications> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 1999 Report Share Posted September 17, 1999 Jai Jai Shri Jagannath Om Ganeshaya Namah Dear YND, I will attempt the reply to rashi drishti. Imagine the two rasis as two opposite houses which look at each other and the planets disposited in these rasis as people living in the opposite house and yourself living in the other. Obviously, a good neigbour in the opposite house will be most welcome to you as will have good neighbourly relations and the vibrations of such a relationship will have a good effect. Eg., imagine Jupiter living in the opposite house. Obviously the pious qualities of the neighbour will spell good effects on you too. On the other hand, if a dacoit or Rahu were to live there, you will live fearing the worst constantly. But at the same time you cannot escape seeing or ignoring this house or the people living in it as it happens to be just opposite in the immediate neighbourhood. This is the effect of Rashi Drishti. Hope this explains. Regards, Yours, Sarat. > " YND " <vedant >varahamihira ><varahamihira > > Argala,graha dristi,rasi dristi >Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:50:40 +0400 > >Dear Gurudev, >Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! > > >Rasi's are > >inanimate things. Like a table or a bed and we can also control these > >things. > >1. Thank you. Now it is stated that the rashi drishties also convey >influence of the planets situated in them. How is that? Should we >understand >that it is because the planets modify the surrounding signified by the sign >it owns - which further conveys to another sign by Rashi-drishti. And again >that respective sign or surrounding influences the planets which own it. > >2. You gave very nice analogies. Could you please extend those analogies >(or >give others) to explain the difference between Argala and Rashi-drishti. > >your sisya >Yasomatinandana das > > >------ >MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. >Start with up to 150 Points for joining! >http://clickhere./click/805 > > >eGroups.com home: varahamihira > - Simplifying group communications > > > > ____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 1999 Report Share Posted September 22, 1999 JAYA JAGANNATH Dear YND & Gauranga, I have mentioned this thing about desires earlier. This applies to the second part of the quote i.e. about the pada's of dristi while the first part applies to the ability to see things or " have knowledge of " . Thus all planets aspect the seventh or they have the knowledge of the happenings of the house in the seventh from their station. To what extent they desire these things in the seventh house is seen from the " Dristi Pada " . Maharshi Jaimini has also expressed a similar opinion when he assigns the seventh from Lagna and the Moon for Hridaya (Not physical heart, but emotional desires). Let us say you have saturn in the ninth house. So, saturn aspects the 11th (income), third and sixth houses. Since saturn can give very strong desires due to depriving the person from the items it aspects, these houses will also show the strong desires the person will have and that these desires will be the cause of sorrow (Saturn's aspect). the aspect on the 3rd house is full in the sence that saturn knows all that happens out there and that it can fully influence the third house, but this is not the priority of saturn. Its aspect on the sixth gives rise to enemies and desires to win in conflicts (10th aspect-Upachaya aspect is top priority with Saturn the Labourer). Its aspect on the gains (third aspect -another Upachaya and desire to show Parakrama is next priority with saturn) reduces gains and brings misfortunes...etc. Thus, in the ninth Sani is bad both by placement and graha dristi as well. Hare Rama Krishna Sanjay Rath - YND <vedant <varahamihira > Sunday, September 19, 1999 6:32 PM Re: Argala,graha dristi,rasi dristi > Dear Gauranga Prabhu, > PAMHO AGTSP > > You were discussing about 7th graha aspects with Sanjay Prabhu. Recently > while rereading BPHS bumped against a seeming contradiction. At the end of > the Rashi Dristi chapter Parasara does discuss the 1, 2, and 3 pada 7th > aspects for Mars, Jupiter and Saturn respectively. But in the beginning of > the Graha Dristi chapter Parasara says that it is a well-known fact that all > planets have full 7th aspect. Can you help understand in which cirmumstances > are those statements should be applied to avoid seeming contradigion. > > Your servant > Yasomatinandana das > -----éÓÈÏÄÎÏÅ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ----- > ïÔ: J. Sarat Chander <jsarat > ëÏÍÕ: varahamihira <varahamihira > > äÁÔÁ: 17 ÓÅÎÔÑÂÒÑ 1999 Ç. 13:55 > ôÅÍÁ: Re: Argala,graha dristi,rasi dristi > > > >Jai Jai Shri Jagannath Om Ganeshaya Namah > > > >Dear YND, > > > >I will attempt the reply to rashi drishti. Imagine the two rasis as two > >opposite houses which look at each other and the planets disposited in > these > >rasis as people living in the opposite house and yourself living in the > >other. Obviously, a good neigbour in the opposite house will be most > >welcome to you as will have good neighbourly relations and the vibrations > of > >such a relationship will have a good effect. Eg., imagine Jupiter living > in > >the opposite house. Obviously the pious qualities of the neighbour will > >spell good effects on you too. On the other hand, if a dacoit or Rahu were > >to live there, you will live fearing the worst constantly. But at the same > >time you cannot escape seeing or ignoring this house or the people living > in > >it as it happens to be just opposite in the immediate neighbourhood. This > >is the effect of Rashi Drishti. Hope this explains. > > > >Regards, > >Yours, > >Sarat. > > > > > >> " YND " <vedant > >>varahamihira > >><varahamihira > > >> Argala,graha dristi,rasi dristi > >>Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:50:40 +0400 > >> > >>Dear Gurudev, > >>Hare Krishna. Jaya Jagannath! > >> > >> >Rasi's are > >> >inanimate things. Like a table or a bed and we can also control these > >> >things. > >> > >>1. Thank you. Now it is stated that the rashi drishties also convey > >>influence of the planets situated in them. How is that? Should we > >>understand > >>that it is because the planets modify the surrounding signified by the > sign > >>it owns - which further conveys to another sign by Rashi-drishti. And > again > >>that respective sign or surrounding influences the planets which own it. > >> > >>2. 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