Mantras for doing Mantras to dear Vistiji plsclarify

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Dear Vistiji,

 

Kindly guide me with your knowledge as there seems to be a difference

of opinions regarding this. Should I start doing mantra of Surya or

mantra of my Ishta Daveta. I am also not sure how to initiate Gayatri

or take a diksha. I would greatly appreciate if you kindly provide

you valuable suggestion.

 

Warm regards,

M Kumar

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

> Hare Ram Krishna

> Dear Zoran,

>

> I am blessed and happy to see your mail addressed to me on this

thread.

>

> I am sorry for responding late as, I was working on " Cosmograce "

website

>

> That is under re-construction to accommodate study schedule and

materials.

>

> I did not share data of prashna; which I did before posting my

advice.

>

> Since I did prasna I got some idea about, karma so far done by

native in this life.

>

> I assumed AL instead of arudh from number , it being a web

question. Sparstyanga rasi was not considered important for prasna

was done to asses necessity of finding Mantra. I considered necessary

what type of Karmaphala is under fructification currently , that is

giving urge to do mantra and japa .

>

> If you look at my mail, I have clearly stated that what native has

in his mind based on my finding.

>

> After stating, I had advised Him Gayatri and advised deeksha , for

the reasons , you have also seen and stated from his Natal chart.

>

> Yes His time is yet to come to enter into spiritual pursuit. Prasna

kriya told me the current state of Native. He has great potential

but his dharma sthan needs focus.

>

> Now about technical pointers.

>

>

>

> After reading your mail I realized, I have taken wrong birth place.

>

> 1. " At the same time Shani is atmakaraka and is placed alone in

Karakamsa which indicate that you are very spiritual person. "

>

> This was alarming statement for me.

>

> Are we both working on same data? Saturn is 3 Degree 27Minutes in

virgo.You are banking on Aquarius Navamsa I suppose?

>

>

>

> 2.Why do you take Amatya karaka for meditation. To my knowledge

> it has to do only with Atmakaraka and Ishtadevata. Here, you are

> taking Dharmadevata, which has a role to teach you truth in the

> world, not in the mind.

>

> Your reasoning is right. I wanted to hint at problem.

Sun is universal soul you know already. For Native as dharmesh in

Navamsa chart in debilitated causes obstructions to atma in this

life ( exchange of Venus AK and Sun AmK in D9 )

>

> 1.. He has Guru in 12th from KARAKA LAGAN,

> so he will see God through 12th house. He has to go somewhere in

the

> Ashram, not necessary to improve the lagan. (Remember the lesson

in

> JAimini with Shri Aurobindo's chart)

>

>

> Is it really so? Analogy of Shri Aurobindos does apply to this

chart? I will relisten audio and check up my notes. To my mind both

gurus and shisyasa are together in dharma bhava hence Initiation of

Gyatri is to open gates of path of spirituality to him.

>

> Native might have wavering mind problem since childhood and must

have affected his studies his social environment also.

>

> He is hardly ready for doing any mantra. In fact He must have been

advised mantra by others also. He would have not started, or if

started must have failed.

>

> Why?

>

> Ketu is very powerful in V house in rasi and very powerful in

navamsa also.

>

> Which other mantra will work than those of SUN and or Gyatri.

>

> By the way chart shows Native will have interest in astrology also

sooner or later.

> 4. Why do you take Amatya karaka for meditation?

>

>

>

> Yes meditation has no connection with AmK. But I focused on what

native wanted and why instead of What He Deserves to have.

>

> But dear Zoran his AK is Venus and not Saturn.

>

> 2.. Which Navamsa you got for the native?

>

>

> Lastly , I feel obliged , that posting caught valued attention of

gurus and gave an opportunity to learn further and enabled

contemplation.

>

> With regards.

>

>

> OM TATSAT

> ------------------------

> Swami_RCSrivastava Astrologer

> Teaching & Consultations

> http:\\www.kaalvastu.com

> -----------------------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who has

> created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> --

>

> -

> ahimsavm

>

> Sunday, January 04, 2009 10:00 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Mantras for doing Mantras

>

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Srivastava,

> > In navamsa Sun ( Amatya karka) is debilitated in IX and

> spiritual interests are not yet activated , but you can also do

> japa of ÿaE rvye nm> hrau ravaye namaù

>

> ZORAN: Why do you take Amatya karaka for meditation. To my

knowledge

> it has to do only with Atmakaraka and Ishtadevata. Here, you are

> taking Dharmadevata, which has a role to teach you truth in the

> world, not in the mind.

>

> >

> > To achieve objectives stated by you. This is jyotirmantra for

> you, taking your Ascendant rising into account. It will impel

your

> intelligence, if you do regular japa at Sunrise.

> ZORAN: I Agree that this mantra is superb, yet as you stated, it

has

> to improve the intelligence. He has Guru in 12th from KARAKA

LAGNA,

> so he will see God through 12th house. He has to go somewhere in

the

> Ashrama, not necessary to improve the lagna. (Remember the lesson

in

> JAimini with Shri Aurobindo's chart)

> The mantra you have given is very good for Lagna, and for

Jyotisha

> as sadhana,and his Lagnesha is in 4th house with digbala

disposited

> by Atmakaraka which indicates that he indeed is spiritual

> soul.Further, Surja is subhapati as Amatyakaraka,so the perfect

> stage is set for Karma Yogi.But in that case, Bhagavate mantra of

> Shri Ram should be done.This further implies that he should take

a

> diskha (Surya is in 3rd house).

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.info

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

> > This mantra has a bija in it, therefore needs initiation. In

case

> you do not choose initiation of Gyatri and are in search of

> alternative, please get it from someone {competent guru} or you

> may contact any jyotish guru in case you decide to do japa of

this

> mantra.

> >

> > Please be sure mantra could appear small but deserve purity and

> sincerity. The time of Japa of this mantra is sharp at Sunrise.

> >

> > With best wishes.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > OM TATSAT

> > ------------------------

> > Swami_RCSrivastava Astrologer

> > Teaching & Consultations

> > http:\\www.kaalvastu.com

> > -----------------------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has

> > created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > -------------------------

> -

> >

> > -

> > jhon

> >

> > Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:29 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Mantras for doing Mantras

> >

> >

> > Namaskar to all learned people.

> >

> > I am for some quite some time having this great urge to do

> Mantras and

> > meditation for some strange reason. But whenever I sit down to

> do

> > mantras

> > my mind start to wander and waver. I feel quiet annoyed by

this.

> Could

> > anyone kindly proscribe any specific Mantras to rectify this. I

> really

> > want to improve my concentration, clarity of thoughts and

> intelligence

> > as I lack all of these. If someone could tell me which mantras

> are best

> > suited for me, I would greatly appreciate. My details are

> > 07/01/80, 1.58 am, Ahmadabad.

> >

> > Thank you very much for your kindness.

> >

> > M Kumar.

> >

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