Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji , Namaskar Thank you, I know this. I think everyone is confused due to this jumping between yuti and parivartana. Why not to make it clear? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. One addition. Make sure you never advise the gemstone of the sixth lord if you want the persons mantra to be strong. Just don't advise it even if well placed and well conjoined. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. You can give the gemstone for conjunction but its not always a good idea. That should be clear for the third time now. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji , Namaskar Thank you, I know this. I think everyone is confused due to this jumping between yuti and parivartana. Why not to make it clear? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. One addition. Make sure you never advise the gemstone of the sixth lord if you want the persons mantra to be strong. Just don't advise it even if well placed and well conjoined. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar In which cases we should perscribe based on conjunctions? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. You can give the gemstone for conjunction but its not always a good idea. That should be clear for the third time now. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji , Namaskar Thank you, I know this. I think everyone is confused due to this jumping between yuti and parivartana. Why not to make it clear? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. One addition. Make sure you never advise the gemstone of the sixth lord if you want the persons mantra to be strong. Just don't advise it even if well placed and well conjoined. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no yuti-exchange? If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its only parivartana as that is not clear? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be intelligently applied. Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its gemstone by any chance. Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji , Namaskar 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - enemy. You can say that there are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems as Sanjayji example is indicating. 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised that is the rule of Sanjayji based on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined two malefics by lordships and natural significance. So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first and tenth will also benefit longevity. Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all looked to Narasimha as a leader. It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in the tenth. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 dear sir could i trouble you please. i too have rahu in ninth but with venus in libra. could i use yeow sapphire please?thank you.om tat sat devamanohariVisti Larsen <vistiTo: Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:46:17 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Chandan, Namaskar. The way to remedy Rahu in ninth is through Yellow Sapphire, and if no other graha are placed there then this is the primary remedy. Planets yuti the lord of the ninth can also cause problems, i.e. Rahu yuti ninth lord also causes durbhagya and requires the same remedy. Thus if one can find a combined remedy for both Rahu and Saturn it would be most suitable. Still the Pushparaga is the primary remedy. I do know of one such situation where the native wore a Yellow Heliodore to remedy this problem of Shani-Rahu dosha on the ninth. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti , namaste ... First of all , thanks a lot for sharing all the invalueable info. but after reading this , a simple question again pops up!! 1.If a person has mesha lagna and rahu is placed in 9th house , normally a Yellow sapphire would be advised , as you mentioned in the article .. but what if jupiter is conj sat ? then also would a yellow sapphire be advised ? or based on conj , a blue sapphire would now be choice ? and no unlock rahu in 9th house , a different gemstone based on varachakra would be used ? pls help clear thus understanding , humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| dear maja, namaste. All of the above makes complete sense , as someone really powerful from the jyotisa circle has re-validated the rectification of my chart yesterday and it indeed is mesha lagna. Moreover , as far as my knowledge on the subject is concerned , i have no doubt about what i know and what i dont ! so maybe u should leave that unto me ! As far as giving suggestions is concenred , have i committed a crime ? You should not forget that the so called guruji's of yours are human mortals with limited intellect and intelligence! So anything and everything cannot be accpeted blindly expect that comes from the BHPS / Jaimini Sutras and other such texts. And for your kind information , rectifying ones own chart (also takes some skill for that btw ), is no offence and that did not require those in bracket comments with my birth details.!! Thanks once again for those nice words which were really undue and not so welcome ! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah >  > Dear Chandan, Namaste >  > At the end... are you wearing a Ruby? Or was it a Yellow Sapphire? Both? Maybe you could put Diamond again... why not, the more the merrier. Besides, it is Yoga Karaka for your D10. >  > So your idea is to be an... Experimental pet to yourself and try all the gemstones one by one for the purposes of gaining some personal experience, right? Okie... You know, it would be nice to learn what there is about Gemstones first. >  > (Oops, you are trying to suggest some personal experience in Jyotish to a Jyotish Guru? At least try checking the archive of this list and then think again was this suggestion necessary. I am not surprised to read something like that in an email written by someone who has Guru as AK. You probably imagine yourself as competent to advice him better than his own Guruji Visti Larsen, right? >  > I see some contradiction in your writing. You wrote a whole neat novel (congratulations on patience) on exchange of effects for Grahas in Yuti (3/4 of Ayana), and then you are bringing up that wearing Ruby was perfect for you (which is contradiction to your emails from last week when Yellow sapphire was perfect for you from your " personal experience " ) as it gives results of 5th bhava... how come when it is giving 3/4 of Ayana for Sukra as you learned, which is Maraka for your chart, though there is a good side that Sukra is giving neecha banga to Surya in your chart. Do let me write your birth data again, a whole chart is a whole picture: >  > 01st November 1982 > 17:44:39 PM (rectified by native) > 88 E 22; 22 N 34 > Time zone 05:30 hours East of GMT >  > We have already determined that you have nothing against your Pravraja Yoga. So if you decide next week to wear a Yellow Sapphire as a " perfect choice " for you, do notice that this will give 3/4 of Ayana of Sani. Your idea was to solve Sani and Rahu Graha dristi on 9th bhava. What are we going to do with Grahas placed in 9th? Is Dristi stronger than this? >  > Of course, all this makes sense if you have rectified your own chart correctly. >  > Warm Regards, > Maja Strbac >  > Hari Om Tat Sat > > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, chandan486 <wavelogix wrote: > > > chandan486 <wavelogix > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? > > Thursday, December 18, 2008, 9:56 PM ||aum namah shivaya|| > > dear rafal, > namaste. > > Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's > article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt > something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical > texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*. > > So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i > too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of > us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones > purely based on yuti. > > Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are > still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of > Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood. > > Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun > ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase > i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there > always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !! > > trust me , personal experience is the best ! > so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for > me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect ! > > thoughts please! > > humble regards, > Chandan S sabarwal. > > , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > wrote: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > > > So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when > it > > comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is > spiritual or > > not, after all dharma > > is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > progeny, > > social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. > > > > When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > attention > > Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal > is > > definitely temporal malefic > > and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only > > parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising > Coral > > is quite unfortunate decision. > > > > Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated > by > > Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha > here. So > > its badly placed by lordship, sambandha > > and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > > > > More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H > in D3 > > (Sn). > > > > What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which > Mangal > > gives here? > > > > OR > > > > we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for > Meena > > Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ------------ --------- -------- > > Consultations and Pages: > > http://rohinaa. com > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > > > Namaste. > > > > > > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you > > > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > > > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart > > > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to > be > > > correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > > > > > > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be > seen > > > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > > > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , > > > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to > > > it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > > > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama > and > > > Pisces - Moksha. > > > > > > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to > it > > > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - > > > Moksha .. > > > > > > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is > > > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political > leader > > > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > > > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > > > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran > already > > > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to > > > obstruct. > > > > > > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways > is > > > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. > > > > > > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. > > > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , > as it > > > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best > > > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > > > > > > I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > > > > > > Comments Please !! > > > > > > humble regards, > > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > > > > > > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the > > > answer was: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > gemstones. > > > Does > > > > that clarify? > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > > > > > > > June 28, 1921 > > > > Time: 12:49:00 > > > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 " > > > > > > > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and > > > eight > > > > lord, so the question is the same : > > > > > > > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and > Surya > > > yuti > > > > we perscribe Ruby > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha > Rao? > > > > > > > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it > > > and > > > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > > > reversed, > > > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > subsitute > > > the > > > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. > So, > > > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > > > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the > > > change > > > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house > and > > > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and > Shukra. > > > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > > > recommended > > > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > specifically. This > > > was > > > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > > www.siva-edu. info > > > > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based > on > > > yuti > > > > > or > > > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also > for > > > > > yuti, now > > > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is > with > > > > > Shani > > > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha > > > Shani > > > > > will > > > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti > graha > > > > > which is > > > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? > How > > > can > > > > > you > > > > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done > > > ONLY > > > > > in > > > > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That > would > > > > > give > > > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that > Zoki > > > is > > > > > > > rising here. > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > However, > > > this > > > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If > you > > > > > have > > > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > > > > prescribe > > > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th > house. > > > In > > > > > that > > > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would > block the > > > > > Shani > > > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should > be > > > in > > > > > good > > > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is > MOti > > > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for > Mangal > > > and > > > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of > bad > > > > > luck. > > > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the > > > chart. > > > > > > >> Best wishes > > > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > <starsuponme@ > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Yes. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should > perscribe > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > >> to > > > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Regards, > > > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > <http://rohinaa. com > > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > > > > > >> > rafal@ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana > done > > > > > > >> otherwise > > > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > > > > Jupiter in > > > > > > >> this > > > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother > from > > > past > > > > > life > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > <http://srigaruda. com > > > <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really > wonderful > > > > > mail. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > detected > > > with > > > > > > >> liver > > > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to > > > live. > > > > > In > > > > > > >> his > > > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear > a > > > > > pokhraj > > > > > > >> instead > > > > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > woiuld be > > > > > great.. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> /* > > > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva > > > Sutra* > > > > > > >> > >> */ > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > > > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > gemstone on > > > > > > >> divisonal > > > > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > > > > >> > >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is > a " Marry > > > > > > >> Christmas > > > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti > Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > gemstone on > > > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last > mail, I > > > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is > what > > > > > > >> I > > > > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones > with > > > > > > >> time > > > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > reference): > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to > the > > > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > protect > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > > > > >> making a > > > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the > right > > > > > > >> one. > > > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the > body, > > > > > > >> there > > > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > > > > >> body, > > > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > > > > >> literally > > > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, > jewel, > > > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > > > > >> meaning a > > > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types > of > > > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > > > > >> (diamond), > > > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani- > la > > > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), > vaidu- > > > > > > >> rya > > > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > > > > >> For the > > > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in > vedic > > > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as > Topaz by > > > > > > >> most, > > > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > > > > >> state > > > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > > > > >> regarded > > > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara- > ga > > > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be > regarded > > > > > > >> as > > > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani- > la/ the > > > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates > the > > > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > > > > >> learned > > > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a > > > ratna > > > > > > >> which > > > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and > has > > > no > > > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna > is > > > for > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting > you. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. > > > Moon, > > > > > > >> Mars, > > > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them > Moon > > > > > > >> rules over > > > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn > over the > > > > > raw > > > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules > over > > > the > > > > > > >> rare > > > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is > Ratna > > > ka- > > > > > > >> raka > > > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > > > Somanatha > > > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect > of > > > > > > >> gemstones. > > > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma > and > > > this > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is > apt > > > to > > > > > > >> judge > > > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > divisional > > > > > chart > > > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can > > > grant > > > > > > >> fame, > > > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see > ones > > > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is > used. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. > > > Hence to > > > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > > > > >> gemstones we > > > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other > purposes > > > > > > >> and is > > > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > > > > explained > > > > > > >> > >> further below. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > understood > > > from > > > > > > >> Vedic > > > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four > fingers > > > > > > >> represent > > > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the > > > index, > > > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised > on > > > the > > > > > > >> index > > > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing > > > ahamkara. > > > > > > >> The > > > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same > work. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Finger > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great > good > > > for > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > > > > >> characteristics > > > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > wishing to > > > be > > > > > a > > > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > pushpara-ga > > > > > > >> (topaz) > > > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person > having > > > > > > >> cancer > > > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. > > > These > > > > > > >> natural > > > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > > > > >> gemstones and > > > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Translation > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying > any > > > > > > >> advice and > > > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered > > > from > > > > > my > > > > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth > and > > > ninth > > > > > > >> house > > > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best > > > gemstones > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. > The > > > first > > > > > > >> lord > > > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > protects > > > the > > > > > > >> hands > > > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and > hence > > > > > the > > > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if > the > > > > > > >> gemstone > > > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is > the > > > most > > > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > advise the > > > > > > >> best > > > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the > body. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, > > > and in > > > > > > >> such > > > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house > lords > > > are > > > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > > > > >> respectively and > > > > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur > on > > > > > > >> account of > > > > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four > > > ayana or > > > > > > >> goals > > > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and > > > moksha > > > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth > pada > > > of a > > > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > > > > >> respectively. > > > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, > then > > > the > > > > > > >> other > > > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former > graha. > > > > > > >> Therefore, > > > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth > lord > > > the > > > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it > takes on > > > > > > >> three of > > > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three > ayana > > > > > > >> depends on > > > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two > signs > > > > > > >> adjacent > > > > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined > Venus > > > then > > > > > > >> Sun > > > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case > should > > > Sun > > > > > be > > > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would > give > > > the > > > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an > earthy > > > > > > >> Navamsha, > > > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a > fiery > > > sign > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give > the > > > > > > >> effects of > > > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) > as > > > well, > > > > > > >> but > > > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of > > > effects > > > > > > >> will > > > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > > > indications > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join > then > > > > > the > > > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > > > > >> results, > > > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange > results > > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. > > > Similarly > > > > > > >> apply > > > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > > > Parivartana > > > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose > as > > > they > > > > > > >> only > > > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana > of a > > > > > > >> graha, yet > > > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or > > > twelfth > > > > > > >> lords > > > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > > > excessive > > > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another > graha > > > is > > > > > > >> causing > > > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > > > > positive > > > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to > have > > > > > > >> given the > > > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun > was in > > > the > > > > > > >> sixth > > > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific > > > scenario > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal > > > battles. > > > > > > >> The > > > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > > > explained > > > > > > >> as: > > > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , > > > 1^st or > > > > > > >> 5^th > > > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the > third > > > > > > >> graha in > > > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of > > > weekdays > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu > is in > > > the > > > > > > >> tenth > > > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of > the > > > house > > > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > > > Similarly > > > > > > >> if > > > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the > > > fifth > > > > > > >> house > > > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > > > > hampered. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, > and > > > > > > >> this is > > > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu > Sutras. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Guna > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Satva > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > > > > >> Varachakra. > > > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to > lock or > > > > > > >> unlock > > > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha > in the > > > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > tumours are > > > > > > >> caused > > > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body > and is > > > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > Gunachakra the > > > > > > >> fourth > > > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > spread of > > > > > > >> cancer. > > > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is > advised > > > > > > >> along > > > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause > nervous > > > > > > >> system > > > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to > block > > > this > > > > > > >> issue > > > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > > > Mrtyunjaya > > > > > > >> bijas. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one > > > aspect > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. > I.e. > > > if > > > > > > >> for > > > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the > > > native > > > > > > >> will > > > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > > > > >> application > > > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be > deemed > > > as > > > > > > >> locked > > > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > > > Similarly > > > > > > >> if Moon > > > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a > > > Blue > > > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha > from > > > the > > > > > > >> Moon > > > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > > > Gunachakra > > > > > > >> in this > > > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > presented > > > > > with > > > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi > chart > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein > > > graha > > > > > > >> lording > > > > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the > body > > > and > > > > > > >> will > > > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is > therefore > > > > > not > > > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as > this > > > is > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy > to > > > the > > > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > affect the > > > > > > >> partner > > > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > > > preferably > > > > > > >> also > > > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > increase > > > the > > > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this > gemstone > > > > > > >> should > > > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is > the > > > best > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > > > > >> intelligently. > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with > the > > > > > > >> advent of > > > > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > > > > >> answered .. is > > > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? > or > > > is it > > > > > > >> real > > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > > > > >> exchange !! > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > > > > >> conjunction > > > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > > > completely ? > > > > > > >> or > > > > > > >> > >>> only do > > > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? > then > > > > > > >> what does > > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not > the > > > > > > >> same , then > > > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti > Larsen > > > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and > jail > > > time, > > > > > > >> but > > > > > > >> > >>> through his > > > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > > > > >> untouched. It was > > > > > > >> > >>> not > > > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence > > > pointing > > > > > > >> out > > > > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > mahadasa > > > was > > > > > > >> perfect > > > > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing > it! > > > How > > > > > > >> many can > > > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that > once > > > > > > >> following a > > > > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com > <http://srigaruda. com/ > > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > > > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to > jail > > > > > > >> and also > > > > > > >> > >>> being > > > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , > that > > > > > > >> eventually > > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party > members > > > > > and > > > > > > >> > >>> associates > > > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even > showed > > > the > > > > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > > > > >> > >>> in > > > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > million . > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral > is > > > being > > > > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > > > > >> > >>> worn > > > > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury > in > > > 10th > > > > > > >> House , > > > > > > >> > >>> merc > > > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the > > > basic > > > > > > >> theory > > > > > > >> > >>> behind > > > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > somehwere on > > > > > > >> your website > > > > > > >> > >>> where > > > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is > actual > > > > > > >> exhange of > > > > > > >> > >>> houses > > > > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > > > > >> > >>> actual > > > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is > based > > > upon > > > > > > >> Rasi / > > > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone > just > > > > > > >> based upon > > > > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when > career > > > is > > > > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > > > Narasimha's > > > > > > >> case , > > > > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the > Emerald > > > > > > >> that he > > > > > > >> > >>> should > > > > > > >> > >>> have > > > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the > Sun , > > > so > > > > > > >> once again > > > > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with > > > out , > > > > > > >> glad swee > > > > > > >> > >>> bought > > > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ------- -- ---- > ---- > > > -- > > > > > > >> ------------ > > > > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 " > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a " Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered .. is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's ... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yes one final statement would be very nice. I eagerly following this exchange because this yuti is a very common thing in charts.. so final resolution would be very nice.. Just a thought. Also another point that struck me was that Narasimha Rao had a lot of tantrik rituals and pujas done for him by people, one of them at least was quite powerful in his hey days. Maybe that too had an effect on either his becoming the PM or his ending in jail eventually. The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Fri, 19/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Friday, 19 December, 2008, 10:43 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Guruji , NamaskarThank you, I know this.I think everyone is confused due to this jumping between yuti and parivartana.Why not to make it clear?Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comVisti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rafal, Namaskar.One addition. Make sure you never advise the gemstone of the sixth lord if you want the persons mantra to be strong. Just don't advise it even if well placed and well conjoined.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Guruji, NamaskarWhy in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comVisti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly.Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health.Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity.If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone.So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Rajarishi , NamaskarPage 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but stillthe choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Raoas it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comrajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Chandan, NamaskarSo far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharmais not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal maleficand it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandhaand placement from AL. So Coral is worst.More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here?ORwe accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comchandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya||Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,Namaste.I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral.1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged.This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha.Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha ...The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.I think i made a pretty neat assemement.Comments Please !!humble regards,Chandan S Sabarwal., Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was:> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.> > June 28, 1921> Time: 12:49:00> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same :> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby> > or> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > ahimsavm pisze:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Rafal,> > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed,> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full> > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.> > Best wishes> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. info> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> > >> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti> > or> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for> > yuti, now> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with> > Shani> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani> > will> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha> > which is> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> > >> > >> > >> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can> > you> > > perscribe 6L gem?> > >> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY> > in> > > PARIVARTANA. "> > >> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?> > >> > > Or I have missed something?> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > ------------ --------- --------> > > Consultations and Pages:> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > >> > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would> > give> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is> > > > rising here.> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > @: visti@> > > >> > > > ahimsavm skrev:> > > >> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you> > have> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never> > prescribe> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In> > that> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the> > Shani> > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in> > good> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad> > luck.> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.> > > >> Best wishes> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> > > >> www.siva-edu. info> > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ >> > > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> > > >> >> > > >> > Yes.> > > >> >> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe> > Neelam> > > >> to> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards,> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > >> > rafal@> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done> > > >> otherwise> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by> > Jupiter in> > > >> this> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past> > life> > > >> and> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > >> > > @: visti@> > > >> > >> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Dear Visti> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful> > mail.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with> > > >> liver> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live.> > In> > > >> his> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a> > pokhraj> > > >> instead> > > >> > >> of diamond?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be> > great..> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> > > >> > >> calcutta> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> -Regards> > > >> > >> Rajarshi> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> /*> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*> > > >> > >> */> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> > > >> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > >> divisonal> > > >> > >> charts ?> > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> WOW!> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry> > > >> Christmas> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what> > > >> I> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with> > > >> time> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect> > > >> the> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be> > > >> making a> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right> > > >> one.> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,> > > >> there> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the> > > >> body,> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not> > > >> literally> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/> > > >> meaning a> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of> > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra> > > >> (diamond),> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-> > > >> rya> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). /> > > >> For the> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by> > > >> most,> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does> > > >> state> > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be> > > >> regarded> > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded> > > >> as> > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,> > > >> whilst> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the> > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be> > > >> learned> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna> > > >> which> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for> > > >> the> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon,> > > >> Mars,> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon> > > >> rules over> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the> > raw> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the> > > >> rare> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-> > > >> raka> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of> > > >> gemstones.> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this> > > >> is> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to> > > >> judge> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional> > chart> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant> > > >> fame,> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other> > > >> gemstones we> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes> > > >> and is> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be> > explained> > > >> > >> further below.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from> > > >> Vedic> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers> > > >> represent> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index,> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the> > > >> index> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara.> > > >> The> > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Finger> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Coral> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Emerald> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Diamond> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for> > > >> the> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)> > > >> characteristics> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be> > a> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga> > > >> (topaz)> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having> > > >> cancer> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These> > > >> natural> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the> > > >> gemstones and> > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Translation> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mukta> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vidruma> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Coral> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Marakata> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Emerald> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vajra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Diamond> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Indrani-la> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rahu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gomeda> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any> > > >> advice and> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from> > my> > > >> > >> teacher.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth> > > >> house> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones> > > >> and> > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first> > > >> lord> > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the> > > >> hands> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence> > the> > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the> > > >> gemstone> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the> > > >> best> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in> > > >> such> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rähu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gold ring> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss> > > >> respectively and> > > >> > >> should not be worn.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on> > > >> account of> > > >> > >> Yoga.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or> > > >> goals> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs> > > >> respectively.> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the> > > >> other> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.> > > >> Therefore,> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on> > > >> three of> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana> > > >> depends on> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs> > > >> adjacent> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then> > > >> Sun> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun> > be> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy> > > >> Navamsha,> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign> > > >> and> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the> > > >> effects of> > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well,> > > >> but> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects> > > >> will> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications> > > >> of> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then> > the> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange> > > >> results,> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results> > > >> whilst> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly> > > >> apply> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they> > > >> only> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a> > > >> graha, yet> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> #> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 1> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 2> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 3> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 4> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 5> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 6> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 7> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 8> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rähu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 9> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth> > > >> lords> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is> > > >> causing> > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its> > positive> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have> > > >> given the> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the> > > >> sixth> > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario> > > >> the> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles.> > > >> The> > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained> > > >> as:> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or> > > >> 5^th> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third> > > >> graha in> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays> > > >> the> > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the> > > >> tenth> > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly> > > >> if> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth> > > >> house> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be> > hampered.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and> > > >> this is> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gunachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> #> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Guna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 1> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Satva> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 2> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 3> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 4> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rähu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 5> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rajas> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 6> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 7> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 8> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Tamas> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 9> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the> > > >> Varachakra.> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or> > > >> unlock> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are> > > >> caused> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the> > > >> fourth> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of> > > >> cancer.> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised> > > >> along> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous> > > >> system> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this> > > >> issue> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya> > > >> bijas.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect> > > >> of> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if> > > >> for> > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native> > > >> will> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong> > > >> application> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as> > > >> locked> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly> > > >> if Moon> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the> > > >> Moon> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra> > > >> in this> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented> > with> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it> > is> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha> > > >> lording> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and> > > >> will> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore> > not> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is> > > >> the> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the> > > >> partner> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably> > > >> also> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone> > > >> should> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best> > > >> and> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice> > > >> intelligently.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> dear visti,> > > >> > >>> namaste.> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the> > > >> advent of> > > >> > >>> Rahu> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent> > > >> answered .. is> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it> > > >> real> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone> > > >> exchange !!> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that> > > >> conjunction> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ?> > > >> or> > > >> > >>> only do> > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then> > > >> what does> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the> > > >> same , then> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> humble regards,> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time,> > > >> but> > > >> > >>> through his> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was> > > >> untouched. It was> > > >> > >>> not> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing> > > >> out> > > >> > >>> clearly> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was> > > >> perfect> > > >> > >>> advise...> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How> > > >> many can> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once> > > >> following a> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>>> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail> > > >> and also> > > >> > >>> being> > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that> > > >> eventually> > > >> > >>> came> > > >> > >>> came> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members> > and> > > >> > >>> associates> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,> > > >> > >>> in> > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being> > > >> > >>> advised to> > > >> > >>> worn> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th> > > >> House ,> > > >> > >>> merc> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic> > > >> theory> > > >> > >>> behind> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on> > > >> your website> > > >> > >>> where> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual> > > >> exhange of> > > >> > >>> houses> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in> > > >> Dasas's ... but> > > >> > >>> actual> > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon> > > >> Rasi /> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just> > > >> based upon> > > >> > >>> rasi and> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is> > > >> > >>> concerend ?> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's> > > >> case ,> > > >> > >>> somehow> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald> > > >> that he> > > >> > >>> should> > > >> > >>> have> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so> > > >> once again> > > >> > >>> emerald.> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out ,> > > >> glad swee> > > >> > >>> bought> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,> > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----------> > > >> ------------> > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Chandan,NamasteThanks for making my laugh for the day ) Mistakes/misunderstandings are my own................Your analysis is absolutely correct and the reason why there are 12 signs, each with our own ascendant lords to contend and problems are compounded the 6th, 8th and 12th and their lords to "work" on so as to better ourselves. The deities who "own" those houses especially the 8th are obviously not happy with us. This is especially so if there is rasi drishti. Annulment or buoyancy and appeasement of the deity is possible if those planets in the navamsa are not detrimental.Coming to the various anecdotes in the various khandas of the Padma Purana about Indra versus Bala asura, I will attempt my own analysis:Bhumikhanda : Bala asura offered his daily meditation close to the sea - Sign is Pisces. Bala asura who was oblivious to Indra's presence, was immediately killed with Indra's vajra. Analogy: The annulment of the malfeasance of a malefic in the 12th house or in the sign Pisces, can be annulled by the presence of a benefic (Indra-Brihaspati ie Jupiter, since it is stated that Brihaspati was a plenary portion of Indra.) Uttarakhanda: The subsequent anecdote on the war between suras and asuras, Varuna, the overlord and deity over gemstones came into the picture. According to Mahabharata, Varuna fathered Bala asura. Being one of the Adityas, he is the naisargika karaka for the 4th/Karka and Indra is the lord of the 5th/Simha. The 5th from the 4th is Vrischikha (in male progeny) where Bala asura's penances and transformations took place and different parts of his body turned into gem seeds which were "taken" by different entities - good and bad. According to Garuda Purana, only some of these gems have intrinsic virtues and it goes on to list 10 major ones - Navagraha + Lagna. The transformation of Bala asura's body parts are different from the ones given in Garuda Purana.In another chapter, we also read about the instant death of Bala asura. Never once do we see his revival. The fact that bala asura's wife turned into a river (nadi) after merging with Bala asura and gems "flowed" through her waters for the benefit of mankind.SUMMARYSince BOTH Padma Purana (Lagna/Mesha/Mangal/Narasimha) and Garuda Purana (5th/Simha/Surya/Aditya) agree that the reason people who can afford to adorn/own beautiful gems is due to their past religious merit, we are to simply understand that this implies the strength of the 9th house, its sign and the strength in Navamsa. We can hence say that the idiot proof method is that the deities lording the 6th, 8th and 12th is "angry" with us. The duplication of the story being that when Sukra eulogised (5th lord/ 5th house/Indra) Lord Siva, Lord Siva recalled Sukra's installation of the Ruby linga in Sukra's previous life, to Lord Siva.That the ignoble becomes a nobility due to past religious merit is indicated according to Sanjay Guru's analysis on PVN Rao's chart. - Sanjay ji, this requires your confirmation.That the 5th and 9th lords will shower their blessings naturally if in strength and attention is to be paid to those ignoble entities where gemstones are concerned.ie., Provided that the dusthana lords are well placed and have digbala, we can recommend the gemstone that pertains to them as this indicates the non displeasure of the the deity/entity lording that gem.That a natural and "functional" benefic if badly placed, can be helped with the wearing of a gemstone.Dear Visti,NamasteNatural Yellow Topaz is non existent and should be Yellow Sapphire. Even the Papadradscha is described in the same chapter of the Garuda Purana besides others. Hessonite is not the gemstone for Rahu. It might be the last of the gemstone I shall endeavour as I continue to write my articles regarding gemstones.PVN Rao's chart:We seem to have ignored the fact that Sun also has digbala that is, directional strength in the South/10th house. That retrograde Mercury is in vargottama, well placed in 11th and that Mars is in MARANA sthana in navamsa, the A12 with Jupiter in marana and afflicted by Rahu and Candra is unhappily displaced in Tula. May my mind be finally rest in peace and resolve to the fact that gems can be used for ALL Lords of the Zodiac.Vara cakra: We are taught to use the deities weapons. Can you please elaborate more on its use wrt gems, since we were taught to use gems in kalacakra??Have a good weekend. It's parties galore but instead I am sifting through the Vedas and their healing arts.love,SweeOn 20 Dec 2008, at 08:41, chandan486 wrote:||aum namah shivaya||Dear Visti,Namaste.Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life !So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!humble regards,Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, NamaskarOk, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no yuti-exchange?If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its only parivartana as that is not clear?Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where this example is also cited yet from a different perspective.Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be intelligently applied.Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its gemstone by any chance.Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji , Namaskar1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, strenghting the Lagnesh should be the caseas Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - enemy. You can say that thereare exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems as Sanjayji example is indicating.3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised that is the rule of Sanjayji basedon Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule for gems per your teachings.Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined two malefics by lordships and natural significance. So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first and tenth will also benefit longevity.Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all looked to Narasimha as a leader.It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in the tenth.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, NamaskarWhy in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated.Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly.Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health.Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity.If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone.So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Rajarishi , NamaskarPage 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but stillthe choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Raoas it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples.Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalrajarshi nandy pisze: Dear RafalI have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said:// /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords/Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord?-Regards Rajarshi/**The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra**/--- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Zoranji , NamaskarPlease dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does that clarify?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. June 28, 1921Time: 12:49:00Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight lord, so the question is the same :a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti we perscribe Rubyorb) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@Regards,Rafal'>http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@ahimsavm'>http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@ahimsavm pisze: Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. infowww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com <%40> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, Zoranji, NamaskarThe whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which is 9L so getting out of durbhagya.How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you perscribe 6L gem?Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. "How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?Or I have missed something?Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> rafal@Visti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising here.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> @: visti@ahimsavm skrev: Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. infowww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com <%40> <srijagannat h%40. com> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji , NamaskarYes.Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> rafal@Visti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ?????Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise then he would not have cancer.Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.Still the advise is the same.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> @: visti@rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear VistiThank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead of diamond?If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. 23rd march 197712:20 pmcalcuttamithun lagna, mesh rasi..-RegardsRajarshi/**The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* */--- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* wrote: Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? <%40> <srijagannat h%40. com> <srijagannat h%40. com> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PMOm Gurave NamahDear Visti Ji, NamasteWOW!As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance".Thank you so much for shearing it with us! Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM??? ??? ?????Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / For the same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the /pushpara- ga /can be regarded as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la (Sapphire) /we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard.The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. Ratnaka-rakaRatna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- raka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as /gunatmaka/, i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below.Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)RatnaFingerRubyRing (3^rd from index)PearlRing or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) CoralMiddle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) EmeraldMiddle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow SapphireRing (3^rd from index)DiamondRing (3^rd from index)Blue SapphireMiddle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) HessoniteMiddle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) Cats eyeMiddle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana.Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) GrahaRatnaTranslationSunPadmara-gaRubyMoonMuktaPearlMarsVidrumaCoralMercuryMarakataEmeraldJupiterPushpara-gaYellow TopazVenusVajraDiamondSaturnIndrani-laBlue SapphireRahuGomedaHessoniteKetuVaidu-ryaCats eyeTradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher.Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised.Graha in 9^thGemstone advisedSaturnRuby (pink ruby for ladies)RähuYellow Sapphire or Yellow TopazKetuGold ringMarsPearlGemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn.To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga.Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery).If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas.The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events.Va-rachakraTable 4: Varachakra#Graha1Sun2Moon3Mars4Mercury5Jupiter6Venus7Saturn8Rähu9KetuIn some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or 5^th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. GunachakraTable 1: Gunachakra#GrahaGuna1SunSatva2Moon3Jupiter4Rähu5MercuryRajas6Venus7Ketu8SaturnTamas9MarsGunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share.Somanatha DrekkanaHaving ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of RahuDasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only dothey give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal.<srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: ??? ??? ?????Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- ---- www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> @: visti@Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear swee and visti,namaste !swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually camecame upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase ,in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised toworn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj....conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he shouldhave worn and not the red coral ...also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !!humbly yours,chandan s sabarwal. ------------ --------- --------- -------- - --------- -------- -- ------------ Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > >>>>>>>> Narasimha's > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> somehow > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been > >>>>>>>> the Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with > >>>>>>>> the Sun , > >>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> emerald. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this > >>>>>>>> thing with > >>>>>>>> out , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> bought > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! > >>>>>>>> Invite > >>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>> > > > >> now. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> om/invite/> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: > >>>>>>>> 270.9.18/1851 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> > > Date: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 2008-12-16 08:53 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- - > >>>>>>>> > > ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> Date: > >>>>>>>> > > 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- - > >>>>>>>> ------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release Date: > >>>>>>>> 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ---------------------- ----------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------- ------------ > >>>>>>> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Swee, Namaskar. Thanks for the clarification reg. Topaz. I did read one of your old mails reg. the same recently. Please publish your emails reg. the gemstones somewhere so that we can make references to them in future publications as had I referred to your email in my write-up it would amount to pure hearsay as its difficult to refer to emails with some credibility. Reg. PV's chart, do see my recent email to Rafal and Chandan. Both Mars and Sun have Digbala in his chart btw. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Swee Chan skrev: Jaya Jagannatha Dear Chandan, Namaste Thanks for making my laugh for the day ) Mistakes/misunderstandings are my own................ Your analysis is absolutely correct and the reason why there are 12 signs, each with our own ascendant lords to contend and problems are compounded the 6th, 8th and 12th and their lords to "work" on so as to better ourselves. The deities who "own" those houses especially the 8th are obviously not happy with us. This is especially so if there is rasi drishti. Annulment or buoyancy and appeasement of the deity is possible if those planets in the navamsa are not detrimental. Coming to the various anecdotes in the various khandas of the Padma Purana about Indra versus Bala asura, I will attempt my own analysis: Bhumikhanda : Bala asura offered his daily meditation close to the sea - Sign is Pisces. Bala asura who was oblivious to Indra's presence, was immediately killed with Indra's vajra. Analogy: The annulment of the malfeasance of a malefic in the 12th house or in the sign Pisces, can be annulled by the presence of a benefic (Indra-Brihaspati ie Jupiter, since it is stated that Brihaspati was a plenary portion of Indra.) Uttarakhanda: The subsequent anecdote on the war between suras and asuras, Varuna, the overlord and deity over gemstones came into the picture. According to Mahabharata, Varuna fathered Bala asura. Being one of the Adityas, he is the naisargika karaka for the 4th/Karka and Indra is the lord of the 5th/Simha. The 5th from the 4th is Vrischikha (in male progeny) where Bala asura's penances and transformations took place and different parts of his body turned into gem seeds which were "taken" by different entities - good and bad. According to Garuda Purana, only some of these gems have intrinsic virtues and it goes on to list 10 major ones - Navagraha + Lagna. The transformation of Bala asura's body parts are different from the ones given in Garuda Purana. In another chapter, we also read about the instant death of Bala asura. Never once do we see his revival. The fact that bala asura's wife turned into a river (nadi) after merging with Bala asura and gems "flowed" through her waters for the benefit of mankind. SUMMARY Since BOTH Padma Purana (Lagna/Mesha/Mangal/Narasimha) and Garuda Purana (5th/Simha/Surya/Aditya) agree that the reason people who can afford to adorn/own beautiful gems is due to their past religious merit, we are to simply understand that this implies the strength of the 9th house, its sign and the strength in Navamsa. We can hence say that the idiot proof method is that the deities lording the 6th, 8th and 12th is "angry" with us. The duplication of the story being that when Sukra eulogised (5th lord/ 5th house/Indra) Lord Siva, Lord Siva recalled Sukra's installation of the Ruby linga in Sukra's previous life, to Lord Siva. That the ignoble becomes a nobility due to past religious merit is indicated according to Sanjay Guru's analysis on PVN Rao's chart. - Sanjay ji, this requires your confirmation. That the 5th and 9th lords will shower their blessings naturally if in strength and attention is to be paid to those ignoble entities where gemstones are concerned. ie., Provided that the dusthana lords are well placed and have digbala, we can recommend the gemstone that pertains to them as this indicates the non displeasure of the the deity/entity lording that gem. That a natural and "functional" benefic if badly placed, can be helped with the wearing of a gemstone. Dear Visti, Namaste Natural Yellow Topaz is non existent and should be Yellow Sapphire. Even the Papadradscha is described in the same chapter of the Garuda Purana besides others. Hessonite is not the gemstone for Rahu. It might be the last of the gemstone I shall endeavour as I continue to write my articles regarding gemstones. PVN Rao's chart: We seem to have ignored the fact that Sun also has digbala that is, directional strength in the South/10th house. That retrograde Mercury is in vargottama, well placed in 11th and that Mars is in MARANA sthana in navamsa, the A12 with Jupiter in marana and afflicted by Rahu and Candra is unhappily displaced in Tula. May my mind be finally rest in peace and resolve to the fact that gems can be used for ALL Lords of the Zodiac. Vara cakra: We are taught to use the deities weapons. Can you please elaborate more on its use wrt gems, since we were taught to use gems in kalacakra?? Have a good weekend. It's parties galore but instead I am sifting through the Vedas and their healing arts. love, Swee On 20 Dec 2008, at 08:41, chandan486 wrote: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Guruji, Namaskar Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no yuti-exchange? If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its only parivartana as that is not clear? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ????? Dear Rafal, Namaskar. I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be intelligently applied. Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its gemstone by any chance. Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Guruji , Namaskar 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - enemy. You can say that there are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems as Sanjayji example is indicating. 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised that is the rule of Sanjayji based on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ????? Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined two malefics by lordships and natural significance. So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first and tenth will also benefit longevity. Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all looked to Narasimha as a leader. It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in the tenth. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ????? Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: // /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords/ Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi /* *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* */ --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? To: Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha ... The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ... Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. --- In <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Zoranji , Namaskar Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does that clarify? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. June 28, 1921 Time: 12:49:00 Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight lord, so the question is the same : a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti we perscribe Ruby or b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> rafal@ Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> rafal@ ahimsavm pisze: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu. info www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com <%40> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which is 9L so getting out of durbhagya. How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you perscribe 6L gem? Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. " How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? Or I have missed something? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> rafal@ Visti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ????? Dear Rafal, Namaskar. How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising here. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> @: visti@ ahimsavm skrev: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu. info www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com @ . com <%40> <srijagannat h%40. com> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* Dear Guruji , Namaskar Yes. Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> rafal@ Visti Larsen pisze: ??? ??? ????? Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise then he would not have cancer. Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. Still the advise is the same. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> @: visti@ rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead of diamond? If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. 23rd march 1977 12:20 pm calcutta mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. -Regards Rajarshi /* *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* */ --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* wrote: Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? @ . com <%40> <srijagannat h%40. com> <srijagannat h%40. com> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste WOW! As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance". Thank you so much for shearing it with us! Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? @ . com Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM ??? ??? ????? Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / For the same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the /pushpara- ga /can be regarded as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la (Sapphire) /we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. Ratnaka-raka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- raka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as /gunatmaka/, i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3^rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3^rd from index) Diamond Ring (3^rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun Padmara-ga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter Pushpara-ga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn Indrani-la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu Vaidu-rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9^th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. Va-rachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or 5^th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. @ . com <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen <visti@> wrote: ??? ??? ????? Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- ---- www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> @: visti@ Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .. Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. ------------ --------- --------- -------- - --------- -------- -- ------------ Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,Namaste.........and I guess Mars is the only graha who is absolved of his "technicoloured spectacles" being combust. So WHO gets the first position in digbala? Sun, being the King or combust Mars the commander in digbala?love,SweeOn 20 Dec 2008, at 12:20, Visti Larsen wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Thanks for the clarification reg. Topaz. I did read one of your old mails reg. the same recently.Please publish your emails reg. the gemstones somewhere so that we can make references to them in future publications as had I referred to your email in my write-up it would amount to pure hearsay as its difficult to refer to emails with some credibility.Reg. PV's chart, do see my recent email to Rafal and Chandan. Both Mars and Sun have Digbala in his chart btw.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti Swee Chan skrev:Jaya JagannathaDear Chandan,NamasteThanks for making my laugh for the day ) Mistakes/misunderstandings are my own................Your analysis is absolutely correct and the reason why there are 12 signs, each with our own ascendant lords to contend and problems are compounded the 6th, 8th and 12th and their lords to "work" on so as to better ourselves. The deities who "own" those houses especially the 8th are obviously not happy with us. This is especially so if there is rasi drishti. Annulment or buoyancy and appeasement of the deity is possible if those planets in the navamsa are not detrimental.Coming to the various anecdotes in the various khandas of the Padma Purana about Indra versus Bala asura, I will attempt my own analysis:Bhumikhanda : Bala asura offered his daily meditation close to the sea - Sign is Pisces. Bala asura who was oblivious to Indra's presence, was immediately killed with Indra's vajra. Analogy: The annulment of the malfeasance of a malefic in the 12th house or in the sign Pisces, can be annulled by the presence of a benefic (Indra-Brihaspati ie Jupiter, since it is stated that Brihaspati was a plenary portion of Indra.) Uttarakhanda: The subsequent anecdote on the war between suras and asuras, Varuna, the overlord and deity over gemstones came into the picture. According to Mahabharata, Varuna fathered Bala asura. Being one of the Adityas, he is the naisargika karaka for the 4th/Karka and Indra is the lord of the 5th/Simha. The 5th from the 4th is Vrischikha (in male progeny) where Bala asura's penances and transformations took place and different parts of his body turned into gem seeds which were "taken" by different entities - good and bad. According to Garuda Purana, only some of these gems have intrinsic virtues and it goes on to list 10 major ones - Navagraha + Lagna. The transformation of Bala asura's body parts are different from the ones given in Garuda Purana.In another chapter, we also read about the instant death of Bala asura. Never once do we see his revival. The fact that bala asura's wife turned into a river (nadi) after merging with Bala asura and gems "flowed" through her waters for the benefit of mankind.SUMMARYSince BOTH Padma Purana (Lagna/Mesha/Mangal/Narasimha) and Garuda Purana (5th/Simha/Surya/Aditya) agree that the reason people who can afford to adorn/own beautiful gems is due to their past religious merit, we are to simply understand that this implies the strength of the 9th house, its sign and the strength in Navamsa. We can hence say that the idiot proof method is that the deities lording the 6th, 8th and 12th is "angry" with us. The duplication of the story being that when Sukra eulogised (5th lord/ 5th house/Indra) Lord Siva, Lord Siva recalled Sukra's installation of the Ruby linga in Sukra's previous life, to Lord Siva.That the ignoble becomes a nobility due to past religious merit is indicated according to Sanjay Guru's analysis on PVN Rao's chart. - Sanjay ji, this requires your confirmation.That the 5th and 9th lords will shower their blessings naturally if in strength and attention is to be paid to those ignoble entities where gemstones are concerned.ie., Provided that the dusthana lords are well placed and have digbala, we can recommend the gemstone that pertains to them as this indicates the non displeasure of the the deity/entity lording that gem.That a natural and "functional" benefic if badly placed, can be helped with the wearing of a gemstone.Dear Visti,NamasteNatural Yellow Topaz is non existent and should be Yellow Sapphire. Even the Papadradscha is described in the same chapter of the Garuda Purana besides others. Hessonite is not the gemstone for Rahu. It might be the last of the gemstone I shall endeavour as I continue to write my articles regarding gemstones.PVN Rao's chart:We seem to have ignored the fact that Sun also has digbala that is, directional strength in the South/10th house. That retrograde Mercury is in vargottama, well placed in 11th and that Mars is in MARANA sthana in navamsa, the A12 with Jupiter in marana and afflicted by Rahu and Candra is unhappily displaced in Tula. May my mind be finally rest in peace and resolve to the fact that gems can be used for ALL Lords of the Zodiac.Vara cakra: We are taught to use the deities weapons. Can you please elaborate more on its use wrt gems, since we were taught to use gems in kalacakra??Have a good weekend. It's parties galore but instead I am sifting through the Vedas and their healing arts.love,SweeOn 20 Dec 2008, at 08:41, chandan486 wrote:||aum namah shivaya||Dear Visti,Namaste.Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life !So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!humble regards,Chandan s sabarwal.--- In , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, NamaskarOk, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no yuti-exchange?If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its only parivartana as that is not clear?Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where this example is also cited yet from a different perspective.Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be intelligently applied.Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its gemstone by any chance.Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji  , Namaskar1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, strenghting the Lagnesh should be the caseas Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - enemy. You can say that thereare exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems as Sanjayji example is indicating.3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised that is the rule of Sanjayji basedon Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings.4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule for gems per your teachings.Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined two malefics by lordships and natural significance.So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results.Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him.So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first and tenth will also benefit longevity.Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all looked to Narasimha as a leader.It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in the tenth.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, NamaskarWhy in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated.Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalVisti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly.Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health.Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity.If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone.So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: vistiRafal Gendarz skrev:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Rajarishi   , NamaskarPage 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but stillthe choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Raoas it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples.Regards,Rafal Gendarz-----------------------------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa.comrafalrajarshi nandy pisze:Dear RafalI have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said:// /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords/Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord?-Regards Rajarshi/**The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra**/--- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote:   Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme   Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on   divisonal charts ?   To:    Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM   *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*   Dear Chandan, Namaskar   So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on   yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen   if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma   is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage,   progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for   materialists.   When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much   attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal   malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic   and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we   use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this   principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision.   Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its   dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and   tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship,   sambandha   and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.   More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits   in 2H in D3 (Sn).   What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad   which Mangal gives here?   OR   we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon   for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.   Regards,   Rafal Gendarz   ------------ --------- --------   Consultations and Pages:   http://rohinaa. com   rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com   chandan486 pisze:   ||aum namah shivaya||   Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,   Namaste.   I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal   and you   two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.   Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal   chart   analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i   seem to be   correct about the advise for a Red Coral.   1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which   can be seen   from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.   Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have   conjoined ,   Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones   adjacent to   it , those ayanas will get exchanged.   This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius -   Kama and   Pisces - Moksha.   Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones   adjacent to it   get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and   Cancer -   Moksha ..   The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to   yuti is   Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a   political leader   and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .   So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.   Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which   Zoran already   mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with   nothing to   obstruct.   Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which   anyways is   more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala   prevails.   2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is   Varki ..   Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good   idea , as it   only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is   best   choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.   I think i made a pretty neat assemement.   Comments Please !!   humble regards,   Chandan S Sabarwal.      <%40>, Rafal Gendarz   <starsuponme@ ...>   wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Zoranji , NamaskarPlease dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral   then the   answer was:Dear Rafal, Namaskar.Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do   gemstones.   Doesthat clarify?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.June 28, 1921Time: 12:49:00Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is   third and   eightlord, so the question is the same :a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon   and Surya   yutiwe perscribe Rubyorb) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for   Narasimha Rao?If there is no answer to this simple question then just   admit it   andplease dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>rafal@ahimsavm pisze:Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has   veryprecisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are   reversed,so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we   subsitute   thegem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing   theirsignification, since one pada of dharma remains   uninfluenced. So,parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in   Fullreversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji   recommending the   changeof a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th   house andShukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani   and Shukra.Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji   recommendedNeelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra   specifically. This   wasfurther very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. infowww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com   <%40><srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz   <starsuponme@ >wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji, Zoranji, NamaskarThe whole disussion is about if we use the other gem   based on   yutiorparivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its   also foryuti, nowZoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth   lord is withShaniits durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the   yuti graha   Shaniwillwork, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the   yuti grahawhich is9L so getting out of durbhagya.How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha   sign ? How   canyouperscribe 6L gem?Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can   be done   ONLYinPARIVARTANA. "How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?Or I have missed something?Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>   <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>rafal@Visti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rafal, Namaskar.How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord?   That wouldgivedurbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points   that Zoki   isrising here.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> '>http://srigaruda.com/>   <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>@:'>http://srigaruda.com/>>@: visti@ahimsavm skrev:Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct.   However,   thissubstitution of gems can be done ONLY in   PARIVARTANA. If youhavelet us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I   would neverprescribeNeelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in   8th house.   Inthatcase I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.The better way out is to take Ruby because it   would block theShaniand improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja   should be   ingoodrealtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another   possibility is MOti(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good   for Mangal   andalso Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the   rise of badluck.Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement   in the   chart.Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. infowww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com   <%40><srijagannat h%40. com><srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal   Gendarz<starsuponme@ >wrote:*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*Dear Guruji , NamaskarYes.Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I   should perscribeNeelamtogive effect of bhagyesh Mangal?Regards,Rafal Gendarz------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>   <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>   <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/><http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>>rafal@Visti Larsen pisze:??? ??? ?????Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.The final effect is the same, as had the   parivartana doneotherwisethen he would not have cancer.Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely   caused byJupiter inthiscase as we see Rahu involved in a curse of   mother from   pastlifeandinvolving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.Still the advise is the same.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com   <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com   <http://srigaruda.com/>><http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> '>http://srigaruda.com/>   <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>>@: visti@rajarshi nandy skrev:Dear VistiThank you for sharing that information.   Really wonderfulmail.I was seeing a chart of a person who has been   detected   withlivercancer and doctors have given him six months   time to   live.Inhischart jup is in exchance with venus. Should   he wear apokhrajinsteadof diamond?If you could kindly take a look and advice it   woiuld begreat..23rd march 197712:20 pmcalcuttamithun lagna, mesh rasi..-RegardsRajarshi/**The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava -   Shiva   Sutra**/--- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S   (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*wrote:Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing   gemstone ondivisonalcharts ?   <%40><srijagannat h%40. com><srijagannat h%40. com>Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PMOm Gurave NamahDear Visti Ji, NamasteWOW!As far as I am concerned, your email bellow   is a "MarryChristmasand a Happy New Year in advance".Thank you so much for shearing it with us!Warm Regards,Maja StrbacHari Om Tat Sat--- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen   /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote:Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing   gemstone ondivisonal charts ?Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM??? ??? ?????Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my   last mail, Irealise no one learns if no one shares, so   here is whatIhave learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg.   gemstones withtime(this will be republished on my website for   reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones   belongs to theconcept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to   protectthebody. This is best to advise when a person may bemaking awrong decision and you want them to stick to   the rightone.Just as one can advise gemstones to protect   the body,thereare gemstones which can remove the protection   of thebody,hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but   does notliterallymean gemstone, but can also refer to   treasure, jewel,precious stone, and is derived from the word   /ra-/meaning agift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine   types oftreasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra(diamond),/padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz),   indrani-la(clear/stainless sapphire), marakata   (emerald), vaidu-rya(cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda   (hessonite). /For thesame reason the word /ratna/ also means nine   in vedicnumerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated   as Topaz bymost,however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p.   174) doesstatethat different colours of the /pushpara-ga   /can beregardedas equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or   /padmara-ga(ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la(Sapphire) /we mustinfer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can   be regardedasgiving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz).   Hence,whilstall sapphires fall in the same group of   /indrani-la/ thecolour of them being different also   differentiates theeffects of wearing them greatly. Details   should belearnedfrom the Garuda Purana in this regard.The Deva are supposed to reside in the   particle of a   ratnawhichis clear, bright, without cracks or lines in   it and has   nounusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a   ratna is   forthesake of keeping a Deva next to you and   protecting you.Ratnaka-rakaRatna comes under the various metals known as   Dhatu.   Moon,Mars,Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among   them Moonrules overRatna, whilst Mars rules over the earth,   Saturn over therawminerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu   rules over   theraremetals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon   is Ratna   ka-rakaand divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and   SomanathaNavamsha are the most important to judge the   effect ofgemstones.As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones   karma and   thisissignified by ones hands, the Somanatha   drekkana is apt   tojudgethe effects of gemstones. Specifically this   divisionalchartshows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong   ojas can   grantfame,and hence this divisional chart can be used   to see onespopularity as well as sexuality where ones   ojas is used.The Moon signifying all gemstones is also knownas /gunatmaka/,i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or   attributes.   Hence tounderstand the effects of a gemstone   vis-a-vis othergemstones weuse the gunachakra. This is also used for   other purposesand isan integral part of Vedic numerology. This   will beexplainedfurther below.Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be   understood   fromVedicRemedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The   four fingersrepresentmoksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively   for the   index,middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is   advised on   theindexfinger as it risks blocking moksha and   increasing   ahamkara.Thefollowing table has been culled out of the   same work.Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)RatnaFingerRubyRing (3^rd from index)PearlRing or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)CoralMiddle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)EmeraldMiddle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from   index)Yellow Topaz/Yellow SapphireRing (3^rd from index)DiamondRing (3^rd from index)Blue SapphireMiddle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)HessoniteMiddle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)Cats eyeMiddle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do   great good   forthehuman race and they have natural (Naisargika)characteristicswhich will benefit everyone. Example: a lady   wishing to   beamother would benefit greatly from wearing a   pushpara-ga(topaz)or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a   person havingcancershould wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya   mantra.   Thesenaturalindications of gemstones can be applied to   all thegemstones andthe effects are given in Garuda Purana.Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p.   1.55)GrahaRatnaTranslationSunPadmara-gaRubyMoonMuktaPearlMarsVidrumaCoralMercuryMarakataEmeraldJupiterPushpara-gaYellow TopazVenusVajraDiamondSaturnIndrani-laBlue SapphireRahuGomedaHessoniteKetuVaidu-ryaCats eyeTradition is everything when it comes to   applying anyadvice andhereunder is some of the advice that I have   gathered   frommyteacher.Ratna should be advised based on the first,   fifth and   ninthhouselords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the   best   gemstonesandwill support the native in their purpose of   life. The   firstlordprotects the head and intelligence, the fifth   protects   thehandsand torso, whilst the ninth protects the   legs, and hencethenative will always select the best path in   life if thegemstoneof the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth   lord is the   mostauspicious gemstone. This can also be used to   advise thebestgemstone for disease in particular parts of   the body.Malefics placed in the ninth house cause   misfortune,   and insuchcases reversal gems are advised.Graha in 9^thGemstone advisedSaturnRuby (pink ruby for ladies)RähuYellow Sapphire or Yellow TopazKetuGold ringMarsPearlGemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth   house lords   areinauspicious and cause strife, disease and lossrespectively andshould not be worn.To both the above there are exceptions which   occur onaccount ofYoga.Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)The graha give their effects by affecting the   four   ayana orgoalsof the person's life namely dharma, artha,   ka-ma and   mokshasymbolised by the first, second, third or   fourth pada   of anakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery   signsrespectively.When a graha is in parivartana yoga with   another, then   theothergraha will affect all four ayana of the   former graha.Therefore,if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the   sixth lord   thegemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha   it takes onthree ofthe four ayanas of the other graha. Which   three ayanadepends oni) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii)   the two signsadjacentthat particular sign. Example: If Sun is   joined Venus   thenSunwill give the effects of Venus. In such a   case should   Sunbeplaced in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it   would give   theeffects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in   an earthyNavamsha,and further as the Navamsha before is that of   a fiery   signandthat after being an airy sign, the Sun would   give theeffects ofVenus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana   (airy) as   well,butnot the moksha-ayana (watery).If three or more graha join then the   interchange of   effectswillbe decided based on the natural benefic/malefic   indicationsofthe graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and   Mercury join thenthehighest malefic and highest benefic will   interchangeresults,thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to   interchange resultswhilstMercury will give not give the results of   anyone.   Similarlyapplythis to conjunction of more grahas.The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and   Parivartanadristi are not taken into account for this   purpose as   theyonlyaffect two or one ayana among the full four   ayana of agraha, yetare still applied when timing events.Va-rachakraTable 4: Varachakra#Graha1Sun2Moon3Mars4Mercury5Jupiter6Venus7Saturn8Rähu9KetuIn some cases the gemstones of the sixth,   eighth or   twelfthlordsneeds to be given to as those graha are causing   excessiveproblems to the native. This occurs when   another graha   iscausingan eclipse on that graha and thus denying it   of itspositiveeffects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was   recalled to havegiven theadvice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as   Sun was in   thesixthand Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that   specific   scenariothenative was suffering on account of repeated   legal   battles.Thereason being on account of Rähu. This is further   explainedas:when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas   (10^th ,   1^st or5^thin that order) that graha causes an eclipse   on the thirdgraha inthe order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the   order of   weekdaysthethird graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when   Rähu is in   thetenthhouse the native will have problems on   account of the   houseplacement and lordship of the Sun in their life.   Similarlyifamong the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed   in the   fifthhousethen the placement and lordship of Jupiter   will behampered.The Varachakra has many uses in matters of   Jyotish, andthis isthe logic behind many principles in the   Brighu Sutras.GunachakraTable 1: Gunachakra#GrahaGuna1SunSatva2Moon3Jupiter4Rähu5MercuryRajas6Venus7Ketu8SaturnTamas9MarsGunachakra is applied somewhat differently   than theVarachakra.If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose   to lock orunlockits indications using the fourth or seventh   graha in thegunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and   tumours arecausedby a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the   body and issignified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the   Gunachakra thefourthgraha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the   spread ofcancer.Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond   is advisedalongwith Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can   cause nervoussystemissues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and   to block   thisissuea gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the   Mrtyunjayabijas.Should a graha already be blocking the native   in one   aspectoflife, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is   required. I.e.   ifforTaurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in   Libra, the   nativewillbe bothered by constant disease on account of   wrongapplicationof intelligence. Therefore the intellect can   be deemed   aslockedand wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.   Similarlyif Moonis very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga   then a   BlueSapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh   graha from   theMoonin weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the   Gunachakrain thisregard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been   presentedwiththem, this is what I have to share.Somanatha DrekkanaHaving ascertained the gemstone as per the   Rashi chart   itisworthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana.   Herein   grahalordingthe second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in   the body   andwillcurtail health and sexuality. This gemstone   is thereforenotadvised, and neither is the lord of the   twelfth as this   isthesixth lord from the seventh house causing   celibacy to   thepartner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords   affect thepartnerin a similar fashion and those gemstones should   preferablyalsobe avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can   increase   theperson's libido significantly and advising   this gemstoneshouldbe done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna   lord is the   bestandensures good health and fame. Apply this adviceintelligently.Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda./>'>http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev:||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into   troubles with theadvent ofRahuDasa , makes more sense now , but still you   haventanswered .. ismere conj enough to wear each other's   gemstones ? or   is itrealparivartana that fulfils the condition for   gemtsoneexchange !!however , first we need to really understand   , thatconjunctionactually makes planets behave like each other   completely ?oronly dothey give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each   other ? thenwhat doesparivartana do ? does it also do the same ?   if not thesame , thenwhats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal.<srijagannat h%40. com>,   Visti Larsen<visti@> wrote:??? ??? ?????Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues   and jail   time,butthrough histhird and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he wasuntouched. It wasnotuntil Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems,   hence   pointingoutclearlythat the wearing of the Coral during Mars   mahadasa   wasperfectadvise...Afterall he became Prime Minister after   wearing it!   Howmany canastrologers can boast of a client   attaining that oncefollowing aremedial measure?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- ---------   ----www: http://srigaruda.   <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/   <http://srigaruda.com/><http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>><http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> '>http://srigaruda.com/>   <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>@: visti@Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:||aum namah shivaya||dear swee and visti,namaste !swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha   going to jailand alsobeingheld up in litigation (6th house   effects) , thateventuallycamecameupon unto him , after some of his own   party membersandassociates(mercury), accused him of bribery and   even showed   thebriefcase ,inwhich he was actually deliveered INR 10   million .Visti - when you mentioned , that a red   coral is   beingadvised towornsimply based upon the conj of Mars and   Mercury in   10thHouse ,mercbeing lagnesha , i cannt somehow   comprehend the   basictheorybehindthis ... and i still remember reading   somehwere onyour websitewhereyou mentioned , only complete   parivartana is actualexhange ofhousesand not simply conj....conj simply gives results of each others inDasas's ... butactualpotency and maleficience / benificience   is based   uponRasi /Dasamasa !how could some one possibly advise a   gemstone justbased uponrasi andnot even consider damasa , especially   when career   isconcerend ?moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in   Narasimha'scase ,somehowmakes me believe , it should have been   the Emeraldthat heshouldhaveworn and not the red coral ...also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with   the Sun ,   soonce againemerald.i had always wanted to pick up this   thing with   out ,glad sweeboughtit up !!humbly yours,chandan s sabarwal.------------ --------- --------- ---------   --------- --------   --------------Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy!   Invite   themnow.   <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:   //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>   <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:   //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>   <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:   //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>   <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http:   //messenger. .c<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>om/invite/>------------ --------- --------- ---------   --------- ---------   --------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com   <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com   <http://www.avg.com/>><http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>   <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database:   270.9.18/1851 -   ReleaseDate:2008-12-16 08:53------------ --------- --------- ---------   --------- --------- --------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com   <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com   <http://www.avg.com/>>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 -   Release   Date:2008-12-17 08:31------------ --------- --------- --------- ---------   --------- -   ------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 -   Release Date:   2008-12-17 08:31   ------      Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com    Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release 2008-12-17 08:31------From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click here. <http://in.rd./tagline_groups_10/*http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/> ------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release 2008-12-18 20:06------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release 2008-12-18 20:06------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release 2008-12-18 20:06------Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1857 - Release Date: 2008-12-19 10:09---~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > >>>>>>>> Narasimha's > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> somehow > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been > >>>>>>>> the Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with > >>>>>>>> the Sun , > >>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> emerald. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this > >>>>>>>> thing with > >>>>>>>> out , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> bought > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! > >>>>>>>> Invite > >>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>> > > > >> now. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> om/invite/> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: > >>>>>>>> 270.9.18/1851 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> > > Date: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 2008-12-16 08:53 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- - > >>>>>>>> > > ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> Date: > >>>>>>>> > > 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- - > >>>>>>>> ------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release Date: > >>>>>>>> 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ---------------------- ----------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------- ------------ > >>>>>>> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > >>>>>>>> Narasimha's > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> somehow > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been > >>>>>>>> the Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with > >>>>>>>> the Sun , > >>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> emerald. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this > >>>>>>>> thing with > >>>>>>>> out , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> bought > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! > >>>>>>>> Invite > >>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>> > > > >> now. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> om/invite/> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: > >>>>>>>> 270.9.18/1851 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> > > Date: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 2008-12-16 08:53 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- - > >>>>>>>> > > ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> Date: > >>>>>>>> > > 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- - > >>>>>>>> ------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release Date: > >>>>>>>> 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ---------------------- ----------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------- ------------ > >>>>>>> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas. Why VRY should have special case here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to be given away to someone else. If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the secretary of the Prime Minister. Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated. Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next explanation. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas. Why VRY should have special case here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > >>>>>>>> Narasimha's > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> somehow > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been > >>>>>>>> the Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with > >>>>>>>> the Sun , > >>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> emerald. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this > >>>>>>>> thing with > >>>>>>>> out , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> bought > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! > >>>>>>>> Invite > >>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>> > > > >> now. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> om/invite/> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: > >>>>>>>> 270.9.18/1851 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> > > Date: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 2008-12-16 08:53 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- - > >>>>>>>> > > ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> Date: > >>>>>>>> > > 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- - > >>>>>>>> ------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release Date: > >>>>>>>> 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ---------------------- ----------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------- ------------ > >>>>>>> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Dear Guruji, My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel. Regards Rafal Gendarz Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to be given away to someone else. If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the secretary of the Prime Minister. Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated. Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next explanation. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas. Why VRY should have special case here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? 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Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. I think I'm mixing some Danish words into my vocabulary. The English mantel is a fire place, so just forget that word. I mean to say that the actual title or responsibility is given to the person only through the Lagna/Lagnesha and Argala is not enough. Similarly Lagna (or Lagnesha) is important for the Yogadas to happens, i.e. when GL and HL associate with a graha, and argala is not enough in such cases. Does that make sense to you? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: Dear Guruji, My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel. Regards Rafal Gendarz Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to be given away to someone else. If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the secretary of the Prime Minister. Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated. Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next explanation. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas. Why VRY should have special case here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > >>>>>>>> Narasimha's > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> somehow > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been > >>>>>>>> the Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with > >>>>>>>> the Sun , > >>>>>>>> so > >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> emerald. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this > >>>>>>>> thing with > >>>>>>>> out , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> bought > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! > >>>>>>>> Invite > >>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>> > > > >> now. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge r_6/*http: > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> om/invite/> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: > >>>>>>>> 270.9.18/1851 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> > > Date: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 2008-12-16 08:53 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- - > >>>>>>>> > > ------- > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/> <http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release > >>>>>>>> Date: > >>>>>>>> > > 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -------- - > >>>>>>>> --------- - > >>>>>>>> ------ > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - > >>>>>>>> Release Date: > >>>>>>>> 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ---------------------- ----------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com > >>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release 2008-12-17 08:31 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------- ------------ > >>>>>>> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Dear Guruji,Yes, but that should also be in the cases of other yogas where the title/responsibility is also given like 2L in 10H? Or you mean its for all yogas ? Why this is not important for dusthana type of VRY? There is also 'title' to get from the struggle.RegardsRafal GendarzElementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. I think I'm mixing some Danish words into my vocabulary. The English mantel is a fire place, so just forget that word. I mean to say that the actual title or responsibility is given to the person only through the Lagna/Lagnesha and Argala is not enough. Similarly Lagna (or Lagnesha) is important for the Yogadas to happens, i.e. when GL and HL associate with a graha, and argala is not enough in such cases. Does that make sense to you? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: Dear Guruji, My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel. Regards Rafal Gendarz Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to be given away to someone else. If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the secretary of the Prime Minister. Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated. Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next explanation. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas. Why VRY should have special case here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In case of a VRY in a Dusthana its enemies destroying each other. This is good whether or not you are picking up the pieces after them. But, in Kendra when a VRY occurs then a title or position is vacant in your own support group and therefore the Lana is important in such a case. Theres a difference between Raja Yoga and Raja Sambandha yoga. In the former you are the leader and in the latter you associate with the leader or work for the leader. Some people will consider both as being quite good, but Raja Sambandha yoga does not guarantee leadership in itself. Having said that you must now appreciate why the VRY in a Kendra must be strong, and not weak like the VRY in a Dusthana. The reason being that if the dusthana lords are not strong in Kendra then they will cause rajbhanga yoga, as you have also written in your article. Thus, if they are weak in Kendra then the person them self will also fall especially if the Lagna is associated, as in that case you are also the target of the event which causes the fall, i.e. PV Narasimha was the main target of many accusations of corruption and the likes. Therefore, strengthening one of the Dusthana lords would save his Lagnesh from falling as then the VRY would be strong in Kendra! Is there anything in the last three paragraphs of what I have written that doesn't make sense? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji, Yes, but that should also be in the cases of other yogas where the title/responsibility is also given like 2L in 10H? Or you mean its for all yogas ? Why this is not important for dusthana type of VRY? There is also 'title' to get from the struggle. Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. I think I'm mixing some Danish words into my vocabulary. The English mantel is a fire place, so just forget that word. I mean to say that the actual title or responsibility is given to the person only through the Lagna/Lagnesha and Argala is not enough. Similarly Lagna (or Lagnesha) is important for the Yogadas to happens, i.e. when GL and HL associate with a graha, and argala is not enough in such cases. Does that make sense to you? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: Dear Guruji, My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel. Regards Rafal Gendarz Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to be given away to someone else. If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the secretary of the Prime Minister. Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated. Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next explanation. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas. Why VRY should have special case here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? 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Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Dear Guruji,Generally when dushtana lords are joined then there is destruction of enemies whether its in kendra or dusthana. Bhava where the VRY is happening shows who can be hit at the end, therefore Kendra placement shows that supporter may fall, or supporting energy/area as often this yoga exists and there is no such thing as gaining position from someone's fall but instead from other inauspicious scenario. So VRY always shows bad event is happening, now in the process of destruction there can be sideeffects just like in the case badhakesh in 12 joining some other lordship. The sideeffects can be deducted by analysing the yuti grahas. Even if benefic is dusthana lord in tenth bhava it afflicts the planet and bhava in tenth - this is the example from Brhat Nakshatra where the dusthana lord was Budha. So VRY is there in our example but the 8L in 10H with Lagnesh is duryoga also, I dont see any reason to avoid adding this yoga in the analysis. If we could find remedy to strenghten this yoga and avoiding to increase the other duryoga then its fine but gem perscription is quite mechanical and will activate all the yogas connected to the karaka of the gem chosen both good and bad. So Coral here is of choice but the sideeffects are to strong as it hits Arudha, Ojas/Health, Finances (8L in D2) and Lagnesh.So concluding I dont agree that strenghting dushtana lord is good for Lagnesh when its joined as it can be good for the other dusthana lord. Dusthana lord is like weapon so the stronger weapon the stronger destruction both for enemy (12L-Surya) and for native (LL-Budha). We should analyse all the sub-yogas also thats my point, otherwise with the gems we are risking too much as with the gems we should be especially precaucious. We cant prove by any reason that this gem was good for him, what to say about giving him rajayoga.RegardsRafal GendarzElementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In case of a VRY in a Dusthana its enemies destroying each other. This is good whether or not you are picking up the pieces after them. But, in Kendra when a VRY occurs then a title or position is vacant in your own support group and therefore the Lana is important in such a case. Theres a difference between Raja Yoga and Raja Sambandha yoga. In the former you are the leader and in the latter you associate with the leader or work for the leader. Some people will consider both as being quite good, but Raja Sambandha yoga does not guarantee leadership in itself. Having said that you must now appreciate why the VRY in a Kendra must be strong, and not weak like the VRY in a Dusthana. The reason being that if the dusthana lords are not strong in Kendra then they will cause rajbhanga yoga, as you have also written in your article. Thus, if they are weak in Kendra then the person them self will also fall especially if the Lagna is associated, as in that case you are also the target of the event which causes the fall, i.e. PV Narasimha was the main target of many accusations of corruption and the likes. Therefore, strengthening one of the Dusthana lords would save his Lagnesh from falling as then the VRY would be strong in Kendra! Is there anything in the last three paragraphs of what I have written that doesn't make sense? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji, Yes, but that should also be in the cases of other yogas where the title/responsibility is also given like 2L in 10H? Or you mean its for all yogas ? Why this is not important for dusthana type of VRY? There is also 'title' to get from the struggle. Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. I think I'm mixing some Danish words into my vocabulary. The English mantel is a fire place, so just forget that word. I mean to say that the actual title or responsibility is given to the person only through the Lagna/Lagnesha and Argala is not enough. Similarly Lagna (or Lagnesha) is important for the Yogadas to happens, i.e. when GL and HL associate with a graha, and argala is not enough in such cases. Does that make sense to you? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: Dear Guruji, My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel. Regards Rafal Gendarz Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to be given away to someone else. If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the secretary of the Prime Minister. Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated. Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next explanation. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas. Why VRY should have special case here? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email. Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets get over this hurdle first. Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the native to enjoy it? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore native rises, its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana lord as then the Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for destroying 12L, but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H in D3..you said its also related to health issues. When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Answers to each of your points. a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access then talk to Sarajit. Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with? Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall. Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga. b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not really the rest of his life. The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a separate issue. Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat Nakshatra). c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I know I have written about the second house in Somanath Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that would clarify in more detail what the second house does. d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary war or the likes. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by emerald not by strenghting the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native. its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here. Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya. b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown. Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known by art and Shukra is in AL c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the essence of life per C.Samhita. d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about strenghting Mangal..I am confused. My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong with the logic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar. 2 points need to be raised. I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange. II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak. Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated with the Lagnesh. Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi would suffer. Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY. Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last his tenure as Prime Minister. So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv. I hope this clarifies once again. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaste. Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As far as im aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be advised , as VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the native to gain.. So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to like killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non- sattwic is that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all these gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in the next life ! So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY is a good idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage caused to some body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !! I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao became PM ,but if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon ! Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody made his negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !! humble regards, Chandan s sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives problem to > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so there is no > yuti-exchange? > > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it and where its > only parivartana as that is not clear? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri classes and > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the Varahamihira list > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is lesson 5, where > > this example is also cited yet from a different perspective. > > > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when Narasimha > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very sexually > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in S3? Hence I wrote > > in the end of my write up that these principles for the S3 need to be > > intelligently applied. > > > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join in a Kendra > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the chart was that Mars > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree. Hence another > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars. > > > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic aspecting/joining > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do not wear its > > gemstone by any chance. > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. > >> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - > >> enemy. You can say that there > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating. > >> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule > >> for gems per your teachings. > >> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! > >> > >> Regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> ----------------------------- > >> Consultations and Pages: > >> http://rohinaa.com > >> rafal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > >>> ??? ??? ????? > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance. > >>> > >> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse > >>> which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. > >>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. > >>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity. > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader. > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in > >>> the tenth. > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> ---------- > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>> @: visti > >>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar > >>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. > >>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>> ----------------------------- > >>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>> rafal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so > >>>>> blindly. > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health. > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity. > >>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone. > >>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a > >>>>> gemstone. > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>> ---------- > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com > >>>>> @: visti > >>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev: > >>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous > >>>>>> teachings and examples. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>> ----------------------------- > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com > >>>>>> rafal > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said: > >>>>>>> // > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards > >>>>>>> Rajarshi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /* > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>>>>>> */ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for > >>>>>>> materialists. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, > >>>>>>> sambandha > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze: > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > >>>>>>>> Namaste. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal > >>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal > >>>>>>>> chart > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i > >>>>>>>> seem to be > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which > >>>>>>>> can be seen > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have > >>>>>>>> conjoined , > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - > >>>>>>>> Kama and > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and > >>>>>>>> Cancer - > >>>>>>>> Moksha .. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to > >>>>>>>> yuti is > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a > >>>>>>>> political leader > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which > >>>>>>>> Zoran already > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with > >>>>>>>> nothing to > >>>>>>>> obstruct. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which > >>>>>>>> anyways is > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala > >>>>>>>> prevails. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is > >>>>>>>> Varki .. > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good > >>>>>>>> idea , as it > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral > >>>>>>>> then the > >>>>>>>> answer was: > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do > >>>>>>>> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> Does > >>>>>>>> > that clarify? > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921 > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00 > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is > >>>>>>>> third and > >>>>>>>> eight > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same : > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon > >>>>>>>> and Surya > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > or > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just > >>>>>>>> admit it > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has > >>>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > >>>>>>>> reversed, > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we > >>>>>>>> subsitute > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing > >>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So, > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in > >>>>>>>> Full > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommending the > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th > >>>>>>>> house and > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani > >>>>>>>> and Shukra. > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > >>>>>>>> recommended > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra > >>>>>>>> specifically. This > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > @ . com > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem > >>>>>>>> based on > >>>>>>>> yuti > >>>>>>>> > > or > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its > >>>>>>>> also for > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is with > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> Shani > >>>>>>>> > > will > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the > >>>>>>>> yuti graha > >>>>>>>> > > which is > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha > >>>>>>>> sign ? How > >>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>> > > you > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can > >>>>>>>> be done > >>>>>>>> ONLY > >>>>>>>> > > in > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something? > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? > >>>>>>>> That would > >>>>>>>> > > give > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points > >>>>>>>> that Zoki > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here. > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. > >>>>>>>> However, > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you > >>>>>>>> > > have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I > >>>>>>>> would never > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in > >>>>>>>> 8th house. > >>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>> > > that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it > >>>>>>>> would block the > >>>>>>>> > > Shani > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> > > good > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good > >>>>>>>> for Mangal > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the > >>>>>>>> rise of bad > >>>>>>>> > > luck. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> chart. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> --- In > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal > >>>>>>>> Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I > >>>>>>>> should perscribe > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the > >>>>>>>> parivartana done > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely > >>>>>>>> caused by > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of > >>>>>>>> mother from > >>>>>>>> past > >>>>>>>> > > life > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> <http://srigaruda. com > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful > >>>>>>>> > > mail. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been > >>>>>>>> detected > >>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months > >>>>>>>> time to > >>>>>>>> live. > >>>>>>>> > > In > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should > >>>>>>>> he wear a > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it > >>>>>>>> woiuld be > >>>>>>>> > > great.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - > >>>>>>>> Shiva > >>>>>>>> Sutra* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> <%40> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing > >>>>>>>> gemstone on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my > >>>>>>>> last mail, I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so > >>>>>>>> here is what > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. > >>>>>>>> gemstones with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for > >>>>>>>> reference): > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones > >>>>>>>> belongs to the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to > >>>>>>>> protect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to > >>>>>>>> the right > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect > >>>>>>>> the body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection > >>>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but > >>>>>>>> does not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word > >>>>>>>> /ra-/ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier- Williams) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine > >>>>>>>> types of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond), > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), > >>>>>>>> indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine > >>>>>>>> in vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. > >>>>>>>> 174) does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara- ga > >>>>>>>> /can be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can > >>>>>>>> be regarded > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga / (topaz). > >>>>>>>> Hence, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also > >>>>>>>> differentiates the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details > >>>>>>>> should be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the > >>>>>>>> particle of a > >>>>>>>> ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in > >>>>>>>> it and has > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a > >>>>>>>> ratna is > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and > >>>>>>>> protecting you. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as > >>>>>>>> Dhatu. > >>>>>>>> Moon, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among > >>>>>>>> them Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the > >>>>>>>> > > raw > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra- hu > >>>>>>>> rules over > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon > >>>>>>>> is Ratna > >>>>>>>> ka- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > >>>>>>>> Somanatha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the > >>>>>>>> effect of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones > >>>>>>>> karma and > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this > >>>>>>>> divisional > >>>>>>>> > > chart > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong > >>>>>>>> ojas can > >>>>>>>> grant > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used > >>>>>>>> to see ones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones > >>>>>>>> ojas is used. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or > >>>>>>>> attributes. > >>>>>>>> Hence to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for > >>>>>>>> other purposes > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be > >>>>>>>> understood > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The > >>>>>>>> four fingers > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively > >>>>>>>> for the > >>>>>>>> index, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is > >>>>>>>> advised on > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and > >>>>>>>> increasing > >>>>>>>> ahamkara. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the > >>>>>>>> same work. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from > >>>>>>>> index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do > >>>>>>>> great good > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady > >>>>>>>> wishing to > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> > > a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a > >>>>>>>> person having > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> mantra. > >>>>>>>> These > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to > >>>>>>>> all the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. > >>>>>>>> 1.55) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to > >>>>>>>> applying any > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have > >>>>>>>> gathered > >>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>> > > my > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, > >>>>>>>> fifth and > >>>>>>>> ninth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> gemstones > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of > >>>>>>>> life. The > >>>>>>>> first > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth > >>>>>>>> protects > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in > >>>>>>>> life if the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> most > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to > >>>>>>>> advise the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of > >>>>>>>> the body. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause > >>>>>>>> misfortune, > >>>>>>>> and in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>>>>>>> house lords > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which > >>>>>>>> occur on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the > >>>>>>>> four > >>>>>>>> ayana or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and > >>>>>>>> moksha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or > >>>>>>>> fourth pada > >>>>>>>> of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery > >>>>>>>> signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with > >>>>>>>> another, then > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the > >>>>>>>> former graha. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the > >>>>>>>> sixth lord > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha > >>>>>>>> it takes on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which > >>>>>>>> three ayana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) > >>>>>>>> the two signs > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is > >>>>>>>> joined Venus > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a > >>>>>>>> case should > >>>>>>>> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > be > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it > >>>>>>>> would give > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in > >>>>>>>> an earthy > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of > >>>>>>>> a fiery > >>>>>>>> sign > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would > >>>>>>>> give the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma- ayana > >>>>>>>> (airy) as > >>>>>>>> well, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the > >>>>>>>> interchange of > >>>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > >>>>>>>> indications > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then > >>>>>>>> > > the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will > >>>>>>>> interchange > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to > >>>>>>>> interchange results > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of > >>>>>>>> anyone. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > >>>>>>>> Parivartana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this > >>>>>>>> purpose as > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four > >>>>>>>> ayana of a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, > >>>>>>>> eighth or > >>>>>>>> twelfth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > >>>>>>>> excessive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when > >>>>>>>> another graha > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it > >>>>>>>> of its > >>>>>>>> > > positive > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was > >>>>>>>> recalled to have > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as > >>>>>>>> Sun was in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that > >>>>>>>> specific > >>>>>>>> scenario > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated > >>>>>>>> legal > >>>>>>>> battles. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > >>>>>>>> explained > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas > >>>>>>>> (10^th , > >>>>>>>> 1^st or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse > >>>>>>>> on the third > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the > >>>>>>>> order of > >>>>>>>> weekdays > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on > >>>>>>>> account of the > >>>>>>>> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed > >>>>>>>> in the > >>>>>>>> fifth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter > >>>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>>> > > hampered. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> # > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9 > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently > >>>>>>>> than the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose > >>>>>>>> to lock or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh > >>>>>>>> graha in the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and > >>>>>>>> tumours are > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the > >>>>>>>> body and is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the > >>>>>>>> spread of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond > >>>>>>>> is advised > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can > >>>>>>>> cause nervous > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and > >>>>>>>> to block > >>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native > >>>>>>>> in one > >>>>>>>> aspect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is > >>>>>>>> required. I.e. > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in > >>>>>>>> Libra, the > >>>>>>>> native > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can > >>>>>>>> be deemed > >>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > >>>>>>>> Similarly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga > >>>>>>>> then a > >>>>>>>> Blue > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh > >>>>>>>> graha from > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been > >>>>>>>> presented > >>>>>>>> > > with > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> > > is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. > >>>>>>>> Herein > >>>>>>>> graha > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in > >>>>>>>> the body > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone > >>>>>>>> is therefore > >>>>>>>> > > not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing > >>>>>>>> celibacy to > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords > >>>>>>>> affect the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > >>>>>>>> preferably > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can > >>>>>>>> increase > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising > >>>>>>>> this gemstone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna > >>>>>>>> lord is the > >>>>>>>> best > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- -------- - ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda./> com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into > >>>>>>>> troubles with the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you > >>>>>>>> havent > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered ... is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or > >>>>>>>> is it > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for > >>>>>>>> gemtsone > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand > >>>>>>>> , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > >>>>>>>> completely ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each > >>>>>>>> other ? then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? > >>>>>>>> if not the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues > >>>>>>>> and jail > >>>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, > >>>>>>>> hence > >>>>>>>> pointing > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars > >>>>>>>> mahadasa > >>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after > >>>>>>>> wearing it! > >>>>>>>> How > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client > >>>>>>>> attaining that once > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- ----- ---- > >>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./> com <http://srigaruda. com/ > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha > >>>>>>>> going to jail > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house > >>>>>>>> effects) , that > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own > >>>>>>>> party members > >>>>>>>> > > and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and > >>>>>>>> even showed > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 > >>>>>>>> million . > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red > >>>>>>>> coral is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and > >>>>>>>> Mercury in > >>>>>>>> 10th > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House , > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow > >>>>>>>> comprehend the > >>>>>>>> basic > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading > >>>>>>>> somehwere on > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's .... but > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience > >>>>>>>> is based > >>>>>>>> upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi / > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a > >>>>>>>> gemstone just > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially > >>>>>>>> when career > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ? 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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Dear Visti, Namaskar. Cancer Asc. 12L & 3L Mer in Aries. Mer is AK. Can he be adviced to wear emerald to strengthen Mer? Mer being AK, will not the native be destroyed himself by strengthening Mercury? Details are: DOB-17.05.1973 TOB-11:30 AM Place-Mumbai (India) Regards Jk On Behalf Of Visti LarsenMonday, December 22, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? हरे राम कृष्णDear Rafal, Namaskar.In case of a VRY in a Dusthana its enemies destroying each other. This is good whether or not you are picking up the pieces after them.But, in Kendra when a VRY occurs then a title or position is vacant in your own support group and therefore the Lana is important in such a case.Theres a difference between Raja Yoga and Raja Sambandha yoga. In the former you are the leader and in the latter you associate with the leader or work for the leader. Some people will consider both as being quite good, but Raja Sambandha yoga does not guarantee leadership in itself.Having said that you must now appreciate why the VRY in a Kendra must be strong, and not weak like the VRY in a Dusthana. The reason being that if the dusthana lords are not strong in Kendra then they will cause rajbhanga yoga, as you have also written in your article.Thus, if they are weak in Kendra then the person them self will also fall especially if the Lagna is associated, as in that case you are also the target of the event which causes the fall, i.e. PV Narasimha was the main target of many accusations of corruption and the likes.Therefore, strengthening one of the Dusthana lords would save his Lagnesh from falling as then the VRY would be strong in Kendra!Is there anything in the last three paragraphs of what I have written that doesn't make sense?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 |Om Shreem Vishnave Namah| Dear Visti & Rafal, Namaskar. This VRY in Kendra is an interesting Yoga and occurs in one's chart in the 10th House. (11th June, 1972; 10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India). It causes the downfall of an ally, perhaps a seeming ally with improvements in one's own situation. Here neither Shani nor Chandra have Digbal but the Lagnesh and AK Surya does. Of course the VRY is also Shani-Chandra Yoga in 10th House. After the end of the string of Moola Dashas (Lagna, Sun, Moon computation), involved in the Curse, life began to change in accord with the Yoga (VRY and Shani-Chandra). Here there is no need for Ratna as Surya is not impacted by the Yuti. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> In case of a VRY in a Dusthana its enemies destroying each other. This > is good whether or not you are picking up the pieces after them.> But, in Kendra when a VRY occurs then a title or position is vacant in > your own support group and therefore the Lana is important in such a case.> Theres a difference between Raja Yoga and Raja Sambandha yoga. In the > former you are the leader and in the latter you associate with the > leader or work for the leader. Some people will consider both as being > quite good, but Raja Sambandha yoga does not guarantee leadership in itself.> > Having said that you must now appreciate why the VRY in a Kendra must be > strong, and not weak like the VRY in a Dusthana. The reason being that > if the dusthana lords are not strong in Kendra then they will cause > rajbhanga yoga, as you have also written in your article.> > Thus, if they are weak in Kendra then the person them self will also > fall especially if the Lagna is associated, as in that case you are also > the target of the event which causes the fall, i.e. PV Narasimha was the > main target of many accusations of corruption and the likes.> > Therefore, strengthening one of the Dusthana lords would save his > Lagnesh from falling as then the VRY would be strong in Kendra!> > Is there anything in the last three paragraphs of what I have written > that doesn't make sense?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti > Rafal G skrev:> >> > Dear Guruji,> > Yes, but that should also be in the cases of other yogas where the > > title/responsibility is also given like 2L in 10H? Or you mean its for > > all yogas ? Why this is not important for dusthana type of VRY? There > > is also 'title' to get from the struggle.> > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> >> >> > Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane.> > ??? ??? ?????> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > I think I'm mixing some Danish words into my vocabulary.> > The English mantel is a fire place, so just forget that word.> > I mean to say that the actual title or responsibility is given to> > the person only through the Lagna/Lagnesha and Argala is not> > enough. Similarly Lagna (or Lagnesha) is important for the Yogadas> > to happens, i.e. when GL and HL associate with a graha, and argala> > is not enough in such cases.> > Does that make sense to you?> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > ----------> > www: http://srigaruda.com> > @: visti >> > Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >> Dear Guruji,> >>> >> My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel.> >>> >> Regards> >> Rafal Gendarz> >>> >>> >> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>> ??? ??? ?????> >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>> Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in> >>> Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to> >>> be given away to someone else. > >>>> >>> If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and> >>> the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL> >>> will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime> >>> Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the> >>> secretary of the Prime Minister.> >>> Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated.> >>>> >>> Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next> >>> explanation.> >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> ----------> >>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>> @: visti >>>> >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>> >>>> Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L> >>>> (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas.> >>>> Why VRY should have special case here?> >>>>> >>>> Regards,> >>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>> -----------------------------> >>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>> rafal >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>> Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email.> >>>>>> >>>>> Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets> >>>>> get over this hurdle first.> >>>>>> >>>>> Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra> >>>>> then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the> >>>>> native to enjoy it?> >>>>>> >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>> ----------> >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>> @: visti >>>>>> >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>> >>>>>> VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad> >>>>>> event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our> >>>>>> support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore> >>>>>> native rises,> >>>>>> its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if> >>>>>> Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then> >>>>>> its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant> >>>>>> understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets> >>>>>> hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet> >>>>>> - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana> >>>>>> lord as then the> >>>>>> Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti> >>>>>> avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it> >>>>>> helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for> >>>>>> destroying 12L,> >>>>>> but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from> >>>>>> destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H> >>>>>> in D3..you said its also related to health issues.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems?> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>>>> rafal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>> Answers to each of your points.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access> >>>>>>> then talk to Sarajit.> >>>>>>> Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for> >>>>>>> Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to> >>>>>>> the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the> >>>>>>> Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra> >>>>>>> associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST> >>>>>>> be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with?> >>>>>>> Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural> >>>>>>> significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in> >>>>>>> case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall.> >>>>>>> Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to> >>>>>>> the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life> >>>>>>> and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one> >>>>>>> creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not> >>>>>>> really the rest of his life.> >>>>>>> The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones> >>>>>>> actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give> >>>>>>> fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to> >>>>>>> grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a> >>>>>>> separate issue.> >>>>>>> Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is> >>>>>>> that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat> >>>>>>> Nakshatra).> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I> >>>>>>> know I have written about the second house in Somanath> >>>>>>> Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the> >>>>>>> Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly> >>>>>>> was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that> >>>>>>> would clarify in more detail what the second house does.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then> >>>>>>> Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or> >>>>>>> in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if> >>>>>>> he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his> >>>>>>> Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a> >>>>>>> debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make> >>>>>>> Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary> >>>>>>> war or the likes.> >>>>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>> ----------> >>>>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>>>> @: visti >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for> >>>>>>>> inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh> >>>>>>>> is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by> >>>>>>>> emerald not by strenghting> >>>>>>>> the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native.> >>>>>>>> its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here.> >>>>>>>> Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through> >>>>>>>> strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and> >>>>>>>> bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and> >>>>>>>> help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and> >>>>>>>> temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown.> >>>>>>>> Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known> >>>>>>>> by art and Shukra is in AL> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving> >>>>>>>> the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance> >>>>>>>> coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the> >>>>>>>> essence of life per C.Samhita.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about> >>>>>>>> strenghting Mangal..I am confused.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong> >>>>>>>> with the logic.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>>>>>> rafal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>> Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>> 2 points need to be raised.> >>>>>>>>> I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange.> >>>>>>>>> II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or> >>>>>>>>> its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna> >>>>>>>>> lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini> >>>>>>>>> (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very> >>>>>>>>> daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You> >>>>>>>>> cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak.> >>>>>>>>> Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to> >>>>>>>>> work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated> >>>>>>>>> with the Lagnesh.> >>>>>>>>> Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is> >>>>>>>>> indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and> >>>>>>>>> Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the> >>>>>>>>> Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be> >>>>>>>>> pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi> >>>>>>>>> would suffer.> >>>>>>>>> Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral> >>>>>>>>> his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars> >>>>>>>>> needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY.> >>>>>>>>> Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a> >>>>>>>>> lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last> >>>>>>>>> his tenure as Prime Minister.> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The> >>>>>>>>> Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant> >>>>>>>>> indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy> >>>>>>>>> of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his> >>>>>>>>> perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his> >>>>>>>>> predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows> >>>>>>>>> what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv.> >>>>>>>>> I hope this clarifies once again.> >>>>>>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>> ----------> >>>>>>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>>>>>> @: visti >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> chandan486 skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti,> >>>>>>>>>> Namaste.> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As> >>>>>>>>>> far as im> >>>>>>>>>> aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be> >>>>>>>>>> advised , as> >>>>>>>>>> VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the> >>>>>>>>>> native to> >>>>>>>>>> gain..> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to> >>>>>>>>>> like> >>>>>>>>>> killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non-> >>>>>>>>>> sattwic is> >>>>>>>>>> that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all> >>>>>>>>>> these> >>>>>>>>>> gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in> >>>>>>>>>> the next> >>>>>>>>>> life !> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY> >>>>>>>>>> is a good> >>>>>>>>>> idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage> >>>>>>>>>> caused to some> >>>>>>>>>> body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our> >>>>>>>>>> responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao> >>>>>>>>>> became PM ,but> >>>>>>>>>> if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could> >>>>>>>>>> flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody> >>>>>>>>>> made his> >>>>>>>>>> negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> Chandan s sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> starsuponme@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives> >>>>>>>>>> problem to> >>>>>>>>>> > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so> >>>>>>>>>> there is no> >>>>>>>>>> > yuti-exchange?> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it> >>>>>>>>>> and where> >>>>>>>>>> its> >>>>>>>>>> > only parivartana as that is not clear?> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri> >>>>>>>>>> classes and> >>>>>>>>>> > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the> >>>>>>>>>> Varahamihira> >>>>>>>>>> list> >>>>>>>>>> > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is> >>>>>>>>>> lesson 5,> >>>>>>>>>> where> >>>>>>>>>> > > this example is also cited yet from a different> >>>>>>>>>> perspective.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very> >>>>>>>>>> sexually> >>>>>>>>>> > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in> >>>>>>>>>> S3? Hence I> >>>>>>>>>> wrote> >>>>>>>>>> > > in the end of my write up that these principles for> >>>>>>>>>> the S3 need> >>>>>>>>>> to be> >>>>>>>>>> > > intelligently applied.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join> >>>>>>>>>> in a> >>>>>>>>>> Kendra> >>>>>>>>>> > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the> >>>>>>>>>> chart was that> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree.> >>>>>>>>>> Hence> >>>>>>>>>> another> >>>>>>>>>> > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic> >>>>>>>>>> aspecting/joining> >>>>>>>>>> > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do> >>>>>>>>>> not wear its> >>>>>>>>>> > > gemstone by any chance.> >>>>>>>>>> > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > > ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini> >>>>>>>>>> Rasi is> >>>>>>>>>> similar> >>>>>>>>>> > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives> >>>>>>>>>> rajayoga,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case> >>>>>>>>>> > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous> >>>>>>>>>> case), not the> >>>>>>>>>> 8L -> >>>>>>>>>> > >> enemy. You can say that there> >>>>>>>>>> > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the> >>>>>>>>>> case with> >>>>>>>>>> gems> >>>>>>>>>> > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna> >>>>>>>>>> lord is> >>>>>>>>>> advised> >>>>>>>>>> > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based> >>>>>>>>>> > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per> >>>>>>>>>> your> >>>>>>>>>> teachings.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should> >>>>>>>>>> make it> >>>>>>>>>> > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the> >>>>>>>>>> native! No yuti> >>>>>>>>>> rule> >>>>>>>>>> > >> for gems per your teachings.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is> >>>>>>>>>> occuring in> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing> >>>>>>>>>> that when> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his> >>>>>>>>>> Bhadra yoga> >>>>>>>>>> becomes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is> >>>>>>>>>> conjoined> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the> >>>>>>>>>> malificence of> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars> >>>>>>>>>> are the most> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and> >>>>>>>>>> will exchange> >>>>>>>>>> results.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe> >>>>>>>>>> affliction and> >>>>>>>>>> curse> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> which would end up giving the results of the> >>>>>>>>>> Vipareet yoga on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits> >>>>>>>>>> were launched> >>>>>>>>>> on him.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results,> >>>>>>>>>> point is that> >>>>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a> >>>>>>>>>> malefic house.> >>>>>>>>>> I.e.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle> >>>>>>>>>> is that the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so> >>>>>>>>>> if Mercury,> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he> >>>>>>>>>> personally> >>>>>>>>>> would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good.> >>>>>>>>>> Specifically> >>>>>>>>>> first> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend> >>>>>>>>>> falls.> >>>>>>>>>> Lagnesh> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the> >>>>>>>>>> remedy). And so> >>>>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through> >>>>>>>>>> which his> >>>>>>>>>> colleague> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics,> >>>>>>>>>> and they> >>>>>>>>>> all> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars> >>>>>>>>>> (also Varesha)> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> the tenth.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still> >>>>>>>>>> dusthana lord> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good> >>>>>>>>>> to give the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and> >>>>>>>>>> we cannot do> >>>>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> blindly.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun> >>>>>>>>>> joined for> >>>>>>>>>> Pisces> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in> >>>>>>>>>> such a> >>>>>>>>>> combination> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems> >>>>>>>>>> depending> >>>>>>>>>> on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if> >>>>>>>>>> the two were> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then> >>>>>>>>>> wearing a> >>>>>>>>>> Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on> >>>>>>>>>> a Monday> >>>>>>>>>> or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it> >>>>>>>>>> would prove> >>>>>>>>>> to be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no> >>>>>>>>>> doubt, i.e.> >>>>>>>>>> don't> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a> >>>>>>>>>> trikona by> >>>>>>>>>> wearing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as> >>>>>>>>>> if such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be> >>>>>>>>>> devastating to wear> >>>>>>>>>> such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> gemstone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle> >>>>>>>>>> Sanjyaji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra> >>>>>>>>>> Lagnadhipati is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is> >>>>>>>>>> 6L). Based> >>>>>>>>>> on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore> >>>>>>>>>> we cant say> >>>>>>>>>> that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is> >>>>>>>>>> opposite to> >>>>>>>>>> previous> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> teachings and examples.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of> >>>>>>>>>> mails and> >>>>>>>>>> getting> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> //> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem> >>>>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between> >>>>>>>>>> trikona lord and> >>>>>>>>>> any> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rajarshi> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava -> >>>>>>>>>> Shiva Sutra*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> */> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> /starsuponme@/*> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> >>>>>>>>>> gemstone on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem> >>>>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also> >>>>>>>>>> hard to> >>>>>>>>>> seen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to> >>>>>>>>>> marriage,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> materialists.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we> >>>>>>>>>> know how> >>>>>>>>>> much> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal> >>>>>>>>>> malefic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth> >>>>>>>>>> bhava. If> >>>>>>>>>> we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely> >>>>>>>>>> on this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate> >>>>>>>>>> decision.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it> >>>>>>>>>> as its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in> >>>>>>>>>> naisargika and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by> >>>>>>>>>> lordship,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> sambandha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving> >>>>>>>>>> poverty and> >>>>>>>>>> sits> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn).> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers> >>>>>>>>>> all the> >>>>>>>>>> bad> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for> >>>>>>>>>> Sun+Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> did it.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Namaste.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions> >>>>>>>>>> between> >>>>>>>>>> rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> Rao's> >>>>>>>>>> details.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my> >>>>>>>>>> personal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> chart> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain> >>>>>>>>>> what i> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> seem to be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas ,> >>>>>>>>>> which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> can be seen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have> >>>>>>>>>> exchanged.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and> >>>>>>>>>> Merc. have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> conjoined ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on> >>>>>>>>>> the ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> adjacent to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha ,> >>>>>>>>>> Aquarius -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kama and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the> >>>>>>>>>> ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini -> >>>>>>>>>> Kaama and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cancer -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moksha ..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get> >>>>>>>>>> exchanged due> >>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> political leader> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this> >>>>>>>>>> ayana .> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig> >>>>>>>>>> bala which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Zoran already> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on> >>>>>>>>>> GL , with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> nothing to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> obstruct.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on> >>>>>>>>>> GL,which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> anyways is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal> >>>>>>>>>> argala> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> prevails.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha> >>>>>>>>>> Merc is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Varki ..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is> >>>>>>>>>> not a> >>>>>>>>>> good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> idea , as it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence> >>>>>>>>>> coral is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked> >>>>>>>>>> why> >>>>>>>>>> Coral> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> answer was:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined> >>>>>>>>>> Grahas> >>>>>>>>>> so do> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > that clarify?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and> >>>>>>>>>> Mangal> >>>>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> third and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> eight> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same :> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena> >>>>>>>>>> Lagna> >>>>>>>>>> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and Surya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why> >>>>>>>>>> Coral for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question> >>>>>>>>>> then> >>>>>>>>>> just> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> admit it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating> >>>>>>>>>> myself.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same.> >>>>>>>>>> Visti has> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> very> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada> >>>>>>>>>> effects are> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> reversed,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained> >>>>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,> >>>>>>>>>> if we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> subsitute> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully> >>>>>>>>>> reversing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> their> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for> >>>>>>>>>> ekapada.> >>>>>>>>>> Only in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Full> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recommending the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> change> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with> >>>>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> in 5th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> house and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana of> >>>>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and Shukra.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second> >>>>>>>>>> house,> >>>>>>>>>> Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recommended> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> specifically. This> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules> >>>>>>>>>> lagna> >>>>>>>>>> as well.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>,> >>>>>>>>>> Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use> >>>>>>>>>> the other> >>>>>>>>>> gem> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then> >>>>>>>>>> you say> >>>>>>>>>> its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> also for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only> >>>>>>>>>> again. If> >>>>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lord is with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as> >>>>>>>>>> then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will> >>>>>>>>>> strenghten> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > which is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord> >>>>>>>>>> neecha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sign ? How> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution> >>>>>>>>>> of gems> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be done> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ONLY> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. "> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti> >>>>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> lord?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > give> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the> >>>>>>>>>> main> >>>>>>>>>> points> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> that Zoki> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------- ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is> >>>>>>>>>> correct.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> However,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for> >>>>>>>>>> Meena, I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would never> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is> >>>>>>>>>> placed> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 8th house.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue> >>>>>>>>>> Sapphire for> >>>>>>>>>> health.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> because it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would block the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a> >>>>>>>>>> case> >>>>>>>>>> Surja> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> should be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta> >>>>>>>>>> is very> >>>>>>>>>> good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for Mangal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may> >>>>>>>>>> risk> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> rise of bad> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > luck.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal> >>>>>>>>>> placement> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> chart.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40.> >>>>>>>>>> com>,> >>>>>>>>>> Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti> >>>>>>>>>> Mangal - I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> should perscribe> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/ <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as> >>>>>>>>>> had the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> parivartana done> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer> >>>>>>>>>> was solely> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> caused by> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a> >>>>>>>>>> curse of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mother from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> past> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > life> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> ---------> >>>>>>>>>> ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that> >>>>>>>>>> information.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > mail.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person> >>>>>>>>>> who has> >>>>>>>>>> been> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> detected> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him> >>>>>>>>>> six> >>>>>>>>>> months> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> time to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> live.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > In> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus.> >>>>>>>>>> Should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> he wear a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and> >>>>>>>>>> advice it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> woiuld be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > great..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is> >>>>>>>>>> Bhairava -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shiva> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sutra*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac> >>>>>>>>>> <majastrbacastro@ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:> >>>>>>>>>> Choosing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstone on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008,> >>>>>>>>>> 8:47 PM> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email> >>>>>>>>>> bellow> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it> >>>>>>>>>> with> >>>>>>>>>> us!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:> >>>>>>>>>> Choosing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstone on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008,> >>>>>>>>>> 7:09 AM> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in> >>>>>>>>>> full in my> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> last mail, I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one> >>>>>>>>>> shares,> >>>>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> here is what> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following> >>>>>>>>>> rules reg.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my> >>>>>>>>>> website> >>>>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> reference):> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or> >>>>>>>>>> gemstones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> belongs to the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi> >>>>>>>>>> meaning to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> protect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a> >>>>>>>>>> person may be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to> >>>>>>>>>> stick to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the right> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to> >>>>>>>>>> protect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the body,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the> >>>>>>>>>> protection> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is> >>>>>>>>>> r/atna/ but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> does not> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived> >>>>>>>>>> from the> >>>>>>>>>> word> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /ra-/> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches.> >>>>>>>>>> (Monier-> >>>>>>>>>> Williams)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically> >>>>>>>>>> refers to> >>>>>>>>>> nine> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> types of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta> >>>>>>>>>> (pearl),> >>>>>>>>>> vajra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond),> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> (topaz),> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu-> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and> >>>>>>>>>> gomeda> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). /> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also> >>>>>>>>>> means> >>>>>>>>>> nine> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in vedic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been> >>>>>>>>>> translated> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta,> >>>>>>>>>> 2007, p.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 174) does> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the> >>>>>>>>>> /pushpara-> >>>>>>>>>> ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /can be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> (sapphire) /or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the> >>>>>>>>>> /indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e.> >>>>>>>>>> yellow)> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be regarded> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /> >>>>>>>>>> (topaz).> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hence,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same> >>>>>>>>>> group of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> differentiates the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly.> >>>>>>>>>> Details> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> should be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this> >>>>>>>>>> regard.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside> >>>>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> particle of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or> >>>>>>>>>> lines in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it and has> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> no> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the> >>>>>>>>>> wearing> >>>>>>>>>> of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ratna is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to> >>>>>>>>>> you and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> protecting you.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals> >>>>>>>>>> known as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dhatu.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moon,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the> >>>>>>>>>> Dhatu and> >>>>>>>>>> among> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> them Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the> >>>>>>>>>> earth,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > raw> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons> >>>>>>>>>> whilst Ra-> >>>>>>>>>> hu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> rules over> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum.> >>>>>>>>>> Hence,> >>>>>>>>>> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is Ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ka-> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha> >>>>>>>>>> Drekkana and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Somanatha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important> >>>>>>>>>> to judge> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> effect of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana> >>>>>>>>>> refers to> >>>>>>>>>> ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> karma and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the> >>>>>>>>>> Somanatha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones.> >>>>>>>>>> Specifically> >>>>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> divisional> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > chart> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it.> >>>>>>>>>> Strong> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ojas can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> grant> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart> >>>>>>>>>> can be> >>>>>>>>>> used> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to see ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality> >>>>>>>>>> where> >>>>>>>>>> ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ojas is used.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is> >>>>>>>>>> also known> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of> >>>>>>>>>> /guna/ or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attributes.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hence to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also> >>>>>>>>>> used for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> other purposes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic> >>>>>>>>>> numerology.> >>>>>>>>>> This> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> will be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > explained> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> on can> >>>>>>>>>> be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> understood> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay> >>>>>>>>>> Rath.> >>>>>>>>>> The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> four fingers> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma> >>>>>>>>>> respectively> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> index,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers.> >>>>>>>>>> No gem> >>>>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> advised on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking> >>>>>>>>>> moksha and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> increasing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ahamkara.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled> >>>>>>>>>> out of> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> same work.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th from> >>>>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 3^rd from> >>>>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th> >>>>>>>>>> from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th> >>>>>>>>>> from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th> >>>>>>>>>> from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 3^rd from> >>>>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that> >>>>>>>>>> gemstones can> >>>>>>>>>> do> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> great good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural> >>>>>>>>>> (Naisargika)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone.> >>>>>>>>>> Example: a> >>>>>>>>>> lady> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wishing to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from> >>>>>>>>>> wearing a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire).> >>>>>>>>>> Similarly a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> person having> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite> >>>>>>>>>> mrtyunjaya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mantra.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> These> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be> >>>>>>>>>> applied> >>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> all the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda> >>>>>>>>>> Purana.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita,> >>>>>>>>>> 1992, p.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.55)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it> >>>>>>>>>> comes to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> applying any> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice> >>>>>>>>>> that I> >>>>>>>>>> have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gathered> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > my> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the> >>>>>>>>>> first,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> fifth and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart.> >>>>>>>>>> These are> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their> >>>>>>>>>> purpose> >>>>>>>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> life. The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> first> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and> >>>>>>>>>> intelligence, the> >>>>>>>>>> fifth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> protects> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth> >>>>>>>>>> protects the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the> >>>>>>>>>> best path> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> life if the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus> >>>>>>>>>> the ninth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lord is the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> most> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can> >>>>>>>>>> also be> >>>>>>>>>> used to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> advise the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in> >>>>>>>>>> particular parts> >>>>>>>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the body.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth> >>>>>>>>>> house cause> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> misfortune,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or> >>>>>>>>>> twelfth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> house lords> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> are> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife,> >>>>>>>>>> disease> >>>>>>>>>> and loss> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are> >>>>>>>>>> exceptions> >>>>>>>>>> which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> occur on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri> >>>>>>>>>> Classes)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by> >>>>>>>>>> affecting the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> four> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ayana or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma,> >>>>>>>>>> artha,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> moksha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second,> >>>>>>>>>> third or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> fourth pada> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> watery> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> signs> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana> >>>>>>>>>> yoga with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> another, then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana> >>>>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> former graha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana with> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sixth lord> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be> >>>>>>>>>> advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti> >>>>>>>>>> another> >>>>>>>>>> graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it takes on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other> >>>>>>>>>> graha. Which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> three ayana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha> >>>>>>>>>> sign> >>>>>>>>>> ii)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the two signs> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If> >>>>>>>>>> Sun is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> joined Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus.> >>>>>>>>>> In such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> case should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of> >>>>>>>>>> Capricorn then> >>>>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would give> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to> >>>>>>>>>> being in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> an earthy> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha> >>>>>>>>>> before is> >>>>>>>>>> that of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> a fiery> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sign> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign,> >>>>>>>>>> the Sun> >>>>>>>>>> would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> give the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and> >>>>>>>>>> ka-ma-> >>>>>>>>>> ayana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (airy) as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> well,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> interchange of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> effects> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural> >>>>>>>>>> benefic/malefic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> indications> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter,> >>>>>>>>>> Saturn and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest> >>>>>>>>>> benefic will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> interchange> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> interchange results> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the> >>>>>>>>>> results of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz.> >>>>>>>>>> Samdristi and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Parivartana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account> >>>>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> purpose as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> they> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the> >>>>>>>>>> full> >>>>>>>>>> four> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ayana of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> #> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of> >>>>>>>>>> the sixth,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> eighth or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> twelfth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those> >>>>>>>>>> graha are> >>>>>>>>>> causing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> excessive> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This> >>>>>>>>>> occurs when> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> another graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus> >>>>>>>>>> denying it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> of its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > positive> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recalled to have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces> >>>>>>>>>> Lagna, as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sun was in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth.> >>>>>>>>>> In that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> specific> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> scenario> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of> >>>>>>>>>> repeated> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> legal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> battles.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu.> >>>>>>>>>> This is> >>>>>>>>>> further> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> explained> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana> >>>>>>>>>> bhavas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (10^th ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1^st or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an> >>>>>>>>>> eclipse> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> on the third> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz.> >>>>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> order of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> weekdays> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun,> >>>>>>>>>> hence> >>>>>>>>>> when> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have> >>>>>>>>>> problems on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> account of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in> >>>>>>>>>> their life.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only> >>>>>>>>>> Mars is> >>>>>>>>>> placed> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> fifth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of> >>>>>>>>>> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> will be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > hampered.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in> >>>>>>>>>> matters> >>>>>>>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles> >>>>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> #> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat> >>>>>>>>>> differently> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> than the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then> >>>>>>>>>> we can> >>>>>>>>>> choose> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to lock or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or> >>>>>>>>>> seventh> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> graha in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example:> >>>>>>>>>> cancer> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> tumours are> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of> >>>>>>>>>> cancer-cells in> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> body and is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted> >>>>>>>>>> Jupiter. In the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can> >>>>>>>>>> block the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> spread of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease> >>>>>>>>>> wearing> >>>>>>>>>> diamond> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is advised> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> cause nervous> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the> >>>>>>>>>> likes,> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to block> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised> >>>>>>>>>> along> >>>>>>>>>> with the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be> >>>>>>>>>> blocking the> >>>>>>>>>> native> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in one> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> aspect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th> >>>>>>>>>> graha) is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> required. I.e.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> if> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is> >>>>>>>>>> placed in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Libra, the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> native> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on> >>>>>>>>>> account of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrong> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the> >>>>>>>>>> intellect> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be deemed> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow> >>>>>>>>>> Topaz/Sapphire is> >>>>>>>>>> advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no> >>>>>>>>>> ni-cha> >>>>>>>>>> bhanga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> then a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Blue> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the> >>>>>>>>>> seventh> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> graha from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock> >>>>>>>>>> these> >>>>>>>>>> negatives.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more> >>>>>>>>>> applications> >>>>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until> >>>>>>>>>> I have> >>>>>>>>>> been> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> presented> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> as per> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha> >>>>>>>>>> Drekkana.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Herein> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the> >>>>>>>>>> ojas in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the body> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This> >>>>>>>>>> gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is therefore> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > not> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord> >>>>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house> >>>>>>>>>> causing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> celibacy to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and> >>>>>>>>>> eighth> >>>>>>>>>> lords> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> affect the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those> >>>>>>>>>> gemstones> >>>>>>>>>> should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> preferably> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third> >>>>>>>>>> lord's> >>>>>>>>>> gem can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> increase> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and> >>>>>>>>>> advising> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the> >>>>>>>>>> lagna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lord is the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame.> >>>>>>>>>> Apply this> >>>>>>>>>> advice> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------> >>>>>>>>>> - ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda.> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./ <http://srigaruda./>> com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> troubles with the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now ,> >>>>>>>>>> but still> >>>>>>>>>> you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> havent> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered .. is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each> >>>>>>>>>> other's> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the> >>>>>>>>>> condition> >>>>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemtsone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really> >>>>>>>>>> understand> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave> >>>>>>>>>> like each> >>>>>>>>>> other> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> completely ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> dasha ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave> >>>>>>>>>> like> >>>>>>>>>> each> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> other ? then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> same ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> if not the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana then> >>>>>>>>>> a conj ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> @> >>>>>>>>>> . com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat> >>>>>>>>>> h%40.> >>>>>>>>>> com>,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the> >>>>>>>>>> legal> >>>>>>>>>> issues> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and jail> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> time,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha> >>>>>>>>>> Dasa of> >>>>>>>>>> Mars he was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw> >>>>>>>>>> problems,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hence> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pointing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral> >>>>>>>>>> during> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mahadasa> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise...> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister> >>>>>>>>>> after> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wearing it!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attaining that once> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------- -----> >>>>>>>>>> ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./ <http://srigaruda./>> com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> going to jail> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> effects) , that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some> >>>>>>>>>> of his> >>>>>>>>>> own> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> party members> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of> >>>>>>>>>> bribery> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> even showed> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually> >>>>>>>>>> deliveered> >>>>>>>>>> INR 10> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> million .> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned ,> >>>>>>>>>> that a> >>>>>>>>>> red> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> coral is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> being> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj> >>>>>>>>>> of Mars> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mercury in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 10th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> comprehend the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> basic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember> >>>>>>>>>> reading> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> somehwere on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of> >>>>>>>>>> each> >>>>>>>>>> others in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's ... but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience /> >>>>>>>>>> benificience> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is based> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> upon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi /> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly> >>>>>>>>>> advise a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstone just> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa ,> >>>>>>>>>> especially> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> when career> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana> >>>>>>>>>> Yoga in> >>>>>>>>>> Lagna in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Narasimha's> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> somehow> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should> >>>>>>>>>> have> >>>>>>>>>> been> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the Emerald> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a> >>>>>>>>>> Nipuna Yoga> >>>>>>>>>> with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the Sun ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> emerald.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick> >>>>>>>>>> up this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> thing with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> out ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> bought> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > it up !!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 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Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Dear Anurag, In this chart, Langa lord and AK Sun is conjoined the VRY. So definitely the power is being transfered to the native. His Moon dasa has aleardy passed, but Sat dasa is going to start in sept, 2013. In my view, his VRY should get activated then. Moon is already exaulted and very strong and Sat is also in friend's house. I did post another chart few days back. DOB-17.05.1973 TOB-11:30 AM Place-Mumbai (India) No body has commented on this chart. Cancer Asc. 12L & 3L Mer in Aries. Mer is AK also. Though Mer has rashi dristi on lagna lord Moon, but Mer being AK, will not the native be destroyed himself by the VRY? His Mer dasa is on and he is already in a bit trouble and confused due to death of his business partner in an accident, and thinking of closing the business. What is the advice here? Should his Mer be strenghtened or the debilated Moon be strenghtened or it should left as it is, because strenghtening Mer will further worsen the situation. Regards Jk On Behalf Of Anurag SharmaTuesday, December 30, 2008 8:34 PM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? |Om Shreem Vishnave Namah| Dear Visti & Rafal, Namaskar. This VRY in Kendra is an interesting Yoga and occurs in one's chart in the 10th House. (11th June, 1972; 10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India). It causes the downfall of an ally, perhaps a seeming ally with improvements in one's own situation. Here neither Shani nor Chandra have Digbal but the Lagnesh and AK Surya does. Of course the VRY is also Shani-Chandra Yoga in 10th House. After the end of the string of Moola Dashas (Lagna, Sun, Moon computation), involved in the Curse, life began to change in accord with the Yoga (VRY and Shani-Chandra). Here there is no need for Ratna as Surya is not impacted by the Yuti. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> In case of a VRY in a Dusthana its enemies destroying each other. This > is good whether or not you are picking up the pieces after them.> But, in Kendra when a VRY occurs then a title or position is vacant in > your own support group and therefore the Lana is important in such a case.> Theres a difference between Raja Yoga and Raja Sambandha yoga. In the > former you are the leader and in the latter you associate with the > leader or work for the leader. Some people will consider both as being > quite good, but Raja Sambandha yoga does not guarantee leadership in itself.> > Having said that you must now appreciate why the VRY in a Kendra must be > strong, and not weak like the VRY in a Dusthana. The reason being that > if the dusthana lords are not strong in Kendra then they will cause > rajbhanga yoga, as you have also written in your article.> > Thus, if they are weak in Kendra then the person them self will also > fall especially if the Lagna is associated, as in that case you are also > the target of the event which causes the fall, i.e. PV Narasimha was the > main target of many accusations of corruption and the likes.> > Therefore, strengthening one of the Dusthana lords would save his > Lagnesh from falling as then the VRY would be strong in Kendra!> > Is there anything in the last three paragraphs of what I have written > that doesn't make sense?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti > Rafal G skrev:> >> > Dear Guruji,> > Yes, but that should also be in the cases of other yogas where the > > title/responsibility is also given like 2L in 10H? Or you mean its for > > all yogas ? Why this is not important for dusthana type of VRY? There > > is also 'title' to get from the struggle.> > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> >> >> > Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane.> > ??? ??? ?????> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > I think I'm mixing some Danish words into my vocabulary.> > The English mantel is a fire place, so just forget that word.> > I mean to say that the actual title or responsibility is given to> > the person only through the Lagna/Lagnesha and Argala is not> > enough. Similarly Lagna (or Lagnesha) is important for the Yogadas> > to happens, i.e. when GL and HL associate with a graha, and argala> > is not enough in such cases.> > Does that make sense to you?> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > ----------> > www: http://srigaruda.com> > @: visti >> > Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >> Dear Guruji,> >>> >> My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel.> >>> >> Regards> >> Rafal Gendarz> >>> >>> >> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>> ??? ??? ?????> >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>> Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in> >>> Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to> >>> be given away to someone else. > >>>> >>> If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and> >>> the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL> >>> will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime> >>> Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the> >>> secretary of the Prime Minister.> >>> Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated.> >>>> >>> Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next> >>> explanation.> >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> ----------> >>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>> @: visti >>>> >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>> >>>> Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L> >>>> (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas.> >>>> Why VRY should have special case here?> >>>>> >>>> Regards,> >>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>> -----------------------------> >>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>> rafal >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>> Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email.> >>>>>> >>>>> Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets> >>>>> get over this hurdle first.> >>>>>> >>>>> Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra> >>>>> then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the> >>>>> native to enjoy it?> >>>>>> >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>> ----------> >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>> @: visti >>>>>> >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>> >>>>>> VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad> >>>>>> event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our> >>>>>> support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore> >>>>>> native rises,> >>>>>> its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if> >>>>>> Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then> >>>>>> its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant> >>>>>> understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets> >>>>>> hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet> >>>>>> - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana> >>>>>> lord as then the> >>>>>> Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti> >>>>>> avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it> >>>>>> helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for> >>>>>> destroying 12L,> >>>>>> but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from> >>>>>> destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H> >>>>>> in D3..you said its also related to health issues.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems?> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>>>> rafal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>> Answers to each of your points.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access> >>>>>>> then talk to Sarajit.> >>>>>>> Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for> >>>>>>> Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to> >>>>>>> the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the> >>>>>>> Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra> >>>>>>> associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST> >>>>>>> be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with?> >>>>>>> Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural> >>>>>>> significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in> >>>>>>> case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall.> >>>>>>> Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to> >>>>>>> the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life> >>>>>>> and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one> >>>>>>> creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not> >>>>>>> really the rest of his life.> >>>>>>> The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones> >>>>>>> actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give> >>>>>>> fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to> >>>>>>> grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a> >>>>>>> separate issue.> >>>>>>> Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is> >>>>>>> that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat> >>>>>>> Nakshatra).> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I> >>>>>>> know I have written about the second house in Somanath> >>>>>>> Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the> >>>>>>> Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly> >>>>>>> was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that> >>>>>>> would clarify in more detail what the second house does.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then> >>>>>>> Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or> >>>>>>> in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if> >>>>>>> he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his> >>>>>>> Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a> >>>>>>> debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make> >>>>>>> Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary> >>>>>>> war or the likes.> >>>>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>> ----------> >>>>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>>>> @: visti >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for> >>>>>>>> inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh> >>>>>>>> is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by> >>>>>>>> emerald not by strenghting> >>>>>>>> the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native.> >>>>>>>> its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here.> >>>>>>>> Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through> >>>>>>>> strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and> >>>>>>>> bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and> >>>>>>>> help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and> >>>>>>>> temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown.> >>>>>>>> Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known> >>>>>>>> by art and Shukra is in AL> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving> >>>>>>>> the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance> >>>>>>>> coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the> >>>>>>>> essence of life per C.Samhita.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about> >>>>>>>> strenghting Mangal..I am confused.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong> >>>>>>>> with the logic.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>>>>>> rafal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>> Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>> 2 points need to be raised.> >>>>>>>>> I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange.> >>>>>>>>> II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or> >>>>>>>>> its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna> >>>>>>>>> lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini> >>>>>>>>> (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very> >>>>>>>>> daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You> >>>>>>>>> cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak.> >>>>>>>>> Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to> >>>>>>>>> work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated> >>>>>>>>> with the Lagnesh.> >>>>>>>>> Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is> >>>>>>>>> indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and> >>>>>>>>> Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the> >>>>>>>>> Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be> >>>>>>>>> pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi> >>>>>>>>> would suffer.> >>>>>>>>> Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral> >>>>>>>>> his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars> >>>>>>>>> needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY.> >>>>>>>>> Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a> >>>>>>>>> lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last> >>>>>>>>> his tenure as Prime Minister.> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The> >>>>>>>>> Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant> >>>>>>>>> indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy> >>>>>>>>> of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his> >>>>>>>>> perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his> >>>>>>>>> predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows> >>>>>>>>> what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv.> >>>>>>>>> I hope this clarifies once again.> >>>>>>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>> ----------> >>>>>>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>>>>>> @: visti >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> chandan486 skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti,> >>>>>>>>>> Namaste.> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As> >>>>>>>>>> far as im> >>>>>>>>>> aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be> >>>>>>>>>> advised , as> >>>>>>>>>> VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the> >>>>>>>>>> native to> >>>>>>>>>> gain..> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to> >>>>>>>>>> like> >>>>>>>>>> killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non-> >>>>>>>>>> sattwic is> >>>>>>>>>> that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all> >>>>>>>>>> these> >>>>>>>>>> gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in> >>>>>>>>>> the next> >>>>>>>>>> life !> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY> >>>>>>>>>> is a good> >>>>>>>>>> idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage> >>>>>>>>>> caused to some> >>>>>>>>>> body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our> >>>>>>>>>> responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao> >>>>>>>>>> became PM ,but> >>>>>>>>>> if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could> >>>>>>>>>> flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody> >>>>>>>>>> made his> >>>>>>>>>> negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> Chandan s sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> starsuponme@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives> >>>>>>>>>> problem to> >>>>>>>>>> > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so> >>>>>>>>>> there is no> >>>>>>>>>> > yuti-exchange?> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it> >>>>>>>>>> and where> >>>>>>>>>> its> >>>>>>>>>> > only parivartana as that is not clear?> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri> >>>>>>>>>> classes and> >>>>>>>>>> > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the> >>>>>>>>>> Varahamihira> >>>>>>>>>> list> >>>>>>>>>> > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is> >>>>>>>>>> lesson 5,> >>>>>>>>>> where> >>>>>>>>>> > > this example is also cited yet from a different> >>>>>>>>>> perspective.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very> >>>>>>>>>> sexually> >>>>>>>>>> > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in> >>>>>>>>>> S3? Hence I> >>>>>>>>>> wrote> >>>>>>>>>> > > in the end of my write up that these principles for> >>>>>>>>>> the S3 need> >>>>>>>>>> to be> >>>>>>>>>> > > intelligently applied.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join> >>>>>>>>>> in a> >>>>>>>>>> Kendra> >>>>>>>>>> > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the> >>>>>>>>>> chart was that> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree.> >>>>>>>>>> Hence> >>>>>>>>>> another> >>>>>>>>>> > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic> >>>>>>>>>> aspecting/joining> >>>>>>>>>> > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do> >>>>>>>>>> not wear its> >>>>>>>>>> > > gemstone by any chance.> >>>>>>>>>> > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > > ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini> >>>>>>>>>> Rasi is> >>>>>>>>>> similar> >>>>>>>>>> > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives> >>>>>>>>>> rajayoga,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case> >>>>>>>>>> > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous> >>>>>>>>>> case), not the> >>>>>>>>>> 8L -> >>>>>>>>>> > >> enemy. You can say that there> >>>>>>>>>> > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the> >>>>>>>>>> case with> >>>>>>>>>> gems> >>>>>>>>>> > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna> >>>>>>>>>> lord is> >>>>>>>>>> advised> >>>>>>>>>> > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based> >>>>>>>>>> > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per> >>>>>>>>>> your> >>>>>>>>>> teachings.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should> >>>>>>>>>> make it> >>>>>>>>>> > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the> >>>>>>>>>> native! No yuti> >>>>>>>>>> rule> >>>>>>>>>> > >> for gems per your teachings.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is> >>>>>>>>>> occuring in> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing> >>>>>>>>>> that when> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his> >>>>>>>>>> Bhadra yoga> >>>>>>>>>> becomes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is> >>>>>>>>>> conjoined> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the> >>>>>>>>>> malificence of> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars> >>>>>>>>>> are the most> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and> >>>>>>>>>> will exchange> >>>>>>>>>> results.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe> >>>>>>>>>> affliction and> >>>>>>>>>> curse> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> which would end up giving the results of the> >>>>>>>>>> Vipareet yoga on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits> >>>>>>>>>> were launched> >>>>>>>>>> on him.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results,> >>>>>>>>>> point is that> >>>>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a> >>>>>>>>>> malefic house.> >>>>>>>>>> I.e.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle> >>>>>>>>>> is that the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so> >>>>>>>>>> if Mercury,> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he> >>>>>>>>>> personally> >>>>>>>>>> would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good.> >>>>>>>>>> Specifically> >>>>>>>>>> first> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend> >>>>>>>>>> falls.> >>>>>>>>>> Lagnesh> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the> >>>>>>>>>> remedy). And so> >>>>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through> >>>>>>>>>> which his> >>>>>>>>>> colleague> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics,> >>>>>>>>>> and they> >>>>>>>>>> all> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars> >>>>>>>>>> (also Varesha)> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> the tenth.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still> >>>>>>>>>> dusthana lord> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good> >>>>>>>>>> to give the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and> >>>>>>>>>> we cannot do> >>>>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> blindly.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun> >>>>>>>>>> joined for> >>>>>>>>>> Pisces> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in> >>>>>>>>>> such a> >>>>>>>>>> combination> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems> >>>>>>>>>> depending> >>>>>>>>>> on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if> >>>>>>>>>> the two were> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then> >>>>>>>>>> wearing a> >>>>>>>>>> Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on> >>>>>>>>>> a Monday> >>>>>>>>>> or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it> >>>>>>>>>> would prove> >>>>>>>>>> to be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no> >>>>>>>>>> doubt, i.e.> >>>>>>>>>> don't> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a> >>>>>>>>>> trikona by> >>>>>>>>>> wearing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as> >>>>>>>>>> if such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be> >>>>>>>>>> devastating to wear> >>>>>>>>>> such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> gemstone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle> >>>>>>>>>> Sanjyaji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra> >>>>>>>>>> Lagnadhipati is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is> >>>>>>>>>> 6L). Based> >>>>>>>>>> on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore> >>>>>>>>>> we cant say> >>>>>>>>>> that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is> >>>>>>>>>> opposite to> >>>>>>>>>> previous> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> teachings and examples.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of> >>>>>>>>>> mails and> >>>>>>>>>> getting> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> //> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem> >>>>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between> >>>>>>>>>> trikona lord and> >>>>>>>>>> any> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rajarshi> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava -> >>>>>>>>>> Shiva Sutra*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> */> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> /starsuponme@/*> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> >>>>>>>>>> gemstone on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem> >>>>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also> >>>>>>>>>> hard to> >>>>>>>>>> seen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to> >>>>>>>>>> marriage,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> materialists.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we> >>>>>>>>>> know how> >>>>>>>>>> much> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal> >>>>>>>>>> malefic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth> >>>>>>>>>> bhava. If> >>>>>>>>>> we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely> >>>>>>>>>> on this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate> >>>>>>>>>> decision.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it> >>>>>>>>>> as its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in> >>>>>>>>>> naisargika and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by> >>>>>>>>>> lordship,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> sambandha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving> >>>>>>>>>> poverty and> >>>>>>>>>> sits> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn).> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers> >>>>>>>>>> all the> >>>>>>>>>> bad> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for> >>>>>>>>>> Sun+Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> did it.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Namaste.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions> >>>>>>>>>> between> >>>>>>>>>> rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> Rao's> >>>>>>>>>> details.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my> >>>>>>>>>> personal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> chart> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain> >>>>>>>>>> what i> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> seem to be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas ,> >>>>>>>>>> which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> can be seen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have> >>>>>>>>>> exchanged.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and> >>>>>>>>>> Merc. have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> conjoined ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on> >>>>>>>>>> the ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> adjacent to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha ,> >>>>>>>>>> Aquarius -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kama and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the> >>>>>>>>>> ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini -> >>>>>>>>>> Kaama and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cancer -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moksha ..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get> >>>>>>>>>> exchanged due> >>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> political leader> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this> >>>>>>>>>> ayana .> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig> >>>>>>>>>> bala which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Zoran already> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on> >>>>>>>>>> GL , with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> nothing to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> obstruct.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on> >>>>>>>>>> GL,which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> anyways is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal> >>>>>>>>>> argala> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> prevails.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha> >>>>>>>>>> Merc is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Varki ..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is> >>>>>>>>>> not a> >>>>>>>>>> good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> idea , as it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence> >>>>>>>>>> coral is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked> >>>>>>>>>> why> >>>>>>>>>> Coral> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> answer was:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined> >>>>>>>>>> Grahas> >>>>>>>>>> so do> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > that clarify?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and> >>>>>>>>>> Mangal> >>>>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> third and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> eight> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same :> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena> >>>>>>>>>> Lagna> >>>>>>>>>> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and Surya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why> >>>>>>>>>> Coral for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question> >>>>>>>>>> then> >>>>>>>>>> just> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> admit it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating> >>>>>>>>>> myself.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same.> >>>>>>>>>> Visti has> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> very> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada> >>>>>>>>>> effects are> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> reversed,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained> >>>>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,> >>>>>>>>>> if we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> subsitute> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully> >>>>>>>>>> reversing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> their> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for> >>>>>>>>>> ekapada.> >>>>>>>>>> Only in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Full> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recommending the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> change> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with> >>>>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> in 5th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> house and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana of> >>>>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and Shukra.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second> >>>>>>>>>> house,> >>>>>>>>>> Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recommended> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> specifically. This> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules> >>>>>>>>>> lagna> >>>>>>>>>> as well.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>,> >>>>>>>>>> Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use> >>>>>>>>>> the other> >>>>>>>>>> gem> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then> >>>>>>>>>> you say> >>>>>>>>>> its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> also for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only> >>>>>>>>>> again. If> >>>>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lord is with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as> >>>>>>>>>> then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will> >>>>>>>>>> strenghten> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > which is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord> >>>>>>>>>> neecha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sign ? How> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution> >>>>>>>>>> of gems> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be done> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ONLY> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. "> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti> >>>>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> lord?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > give> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the> >>>>>>>>>> main> >>>>>>>>>> points> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> that Zoki> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------- ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is> >>>>>>>>>> correct.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> However,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for> >>>>>>>>>> Meena, I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would never> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is> >>>>>>>>>> placed> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 8th house.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue> >>>>>>>>>> Sapphire for> >>>>>>>>>> health.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> because it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would block the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a> >>>>>>>>>> case> >>>>>>>>>> Surja> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> should be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> possibility is MOti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta> >>>>>>>>>> is very> >>>>>>>>>> good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for Mangal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may> >>>>>>>>>> risk> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> rise of bad> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > luck.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal> >>>>>>>>>> placement> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> chart.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Best wishes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.siva-edu. info> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40.> >>>>>>>>>> com>,> >>>>>>>>>> Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <starsuponme@ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Yes.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti> >>>>>>>>>> Mangal - I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> should perscribe> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/ <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as> >>>>>>>>>> had the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> parivartana done> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> otherwise> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer> >>>>>>>>>> was solely> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> caused by> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Jupiter in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a> >>>>>>>>>> curse of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mother from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> past> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > life> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> ---------> >>>>>>>>>> ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that> >>>>>>>>>> information.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Really wonderful> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > mail.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person> >>>>>>>>>> who has> >>>>>>>>>> been> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> detected> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> liver> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him> >>>>>>>>>> six> >>>>>>>>>> months> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> time to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> live.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > In> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> his> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus.> >>>>>>>>>> Should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> he wear a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > pokhraj> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> instead> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of diamond?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and> >>>>>>>>>> advice it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> woiuld be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > great..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> calcutta> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> -Regards> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajarshi> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is> >>>>>>>>>> Bhairava -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shiva> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sutra*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> */> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac> >>>>>>>>>> <majastrbacastro@ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:> >>>>>>>>>> Choosing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstone on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> divisonal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> charts ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008,> >>>>>>>>>> 8:47 PM> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> WOW!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email> >>>>>>>>>> bellow> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is a "Marry> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Christmas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it> >>>>>>>>>> with> >>>>>>>>>> us!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> com>/* wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:> >>>>>>>>>> Choosing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstone on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008,> >>>>>>>>>> 7:09 AM> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in> >>>>>>>>>> full in my> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> last mail, I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one> >>>>>>>>>> shares,> >>>>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> here is what> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following> >>>>>>>>>> rules reg.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> time> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my> >>>>>>>>>> website> >>>>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> reference):> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or> >>>>>>>>>> gemstones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> belongs to the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi> >>>>>>>>>> meaning to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> protect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a> >>>>>>>>>> person may be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> making a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to> >>>>>>>>>> stick to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the right> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> one.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to> >>>>>>>>>> protect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the body,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> there> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the> >>>>>>>>>> protection> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> body,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is> >>>>>>>>>> r/atna/ but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> does not> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> literally> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> treasure, jewel,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived> >>>>>>>>>> from the> >>>>>>>>>> word> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /ra-/> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> meaning a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches.> >>>>>>>>>> (Monier-> >>>>>>>>>> Williams)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically> >>>>>>>>>> refers to> >>>>>>>>>> nine> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> types of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta> >>>>>>>>>> (pearl),> >>>>>>>>>> vajra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (diamond),> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> (topaz),> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (emerald), vaidu-> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and> >>>>>>>>>> gomeda> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (hessonite). /> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> For the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also> >>>>>>>>>> means> >>>>>>>>>> nine> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in vedic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been> >>>>>>>>>> translated> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> as Topaz by> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> most,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta,> >>>>>>>>>> 2007, p.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 174) does> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> state> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that different colours of the> >>>>>>>>>> /pushpara-> >>>>>>>>>> ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /can be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> regarded> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> (sapphire) /or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /padmara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the> >>>>>>>>>> /indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e.> >>>>>>>>>> yellow)> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be regarded> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /> >>>>>>>>>> (topaz).> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hence,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same> >>>>>>>>>> group of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> /indrani-la/ the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> differentiates the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly.> >>>>>>>>>> Details> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> should be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> learned> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this> >>>>>>>>>> regard.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside> >>>>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> particle of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or> >>>>>>>>>> lines in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it and has> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> no> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the> >>>>>>>>>> wearing> >>>>>>>>>> of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ratna is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to> >>>>>>>>>> you and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> protecting you.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals> >>>>>>>>>> known as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dhatu.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moon,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Mars,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the> >>>>>>>>>> Dhatu and> >>>>>>>>>> among> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> them Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rules over> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the> >>>>>>>>>> earth,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Saturn over the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > raw> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons> >>>>>>>>>> whilst Ra-> >>>>>>>>>> hu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> rules over> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> rare> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum.> >>>>>>>>>> Hence,> >>>>>>>>>> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is Ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ka-> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> raka> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha> >>>>>>>>>> Drekkana and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Somanatha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important> >>>>>>>>>> to judge> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> effect of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana> >>>>>>>>>> refers to> >>>>>>>>>> ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> karma and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the> >>>>>>>>>> Somanatha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> drekkana is apt> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> judge> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones.> >>>>>>>>>> Specifically> >>>>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> divisional> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > chart> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it.> >>>>>>>>>> Strong> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ojas can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> grant> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fame,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart> >>>>>>>>>> can be> >>>>>>>>>> used> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to see ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality> >>>>>>>>>> where> >>>>>>>>>> ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ojas is used.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is> >>>>>>>>>> also known> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of> >>>>>>>>>> /guna/ or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attributes.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hence to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> vis-a-vis other> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also> >>>>>>>>>> used for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> other purposes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic> >>>>>>>>>> numerology.> >>>>>>>>>> This> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> will be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > explained> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> further below.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> on can> >>>>>>>>>> be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> understood> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Vedic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay> >>>>>>>>>> Rath.> >>>>>>>>>> The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> four fingers> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> represent> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma> >>>>>>>>>> respectively> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> index,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers.> >>>>>>>>>> No gem> >>>>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> advised on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> index> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking> >>>>>>>>>> moksha and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> increasing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ahamkara.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> following table has been culled> >>>>>>>>>> out of> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> same work.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Finger> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th from> >>>>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 3^rd from> >>>>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th> >>>>>>>>>> from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th> >>>>>>>>>> from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 4^th> >>>>>>>>>> from index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or> >>>>>>>>>> 3^rd from> >>>>>>>>>> index)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that> >>>>>>>>>> gemstones can> >>>>>>>>>> do> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> great good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural> >>>>>>>>>> (Naisargika)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> characteristics> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone.> >>>>>>>>>> Example: a> >>>>>>>>>> lady> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wishing to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from> >>>>>>>>>> wearing a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pushpara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> (topaz)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire).> >>>>>>>>>> Similarly a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> person having> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite> >>>>>>>>>> mrtyunjaya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mantra.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> These> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> natural> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be> >>>>>>>>>> applied> >>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> all the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstones and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda> >>>>>>>>>> Purana.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita,> >>>>>>>>>> 1992, p.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.55)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Translation> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mukta> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vidruma> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Coral> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Marakata> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Emerald> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vajra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Diamond> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rahu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gomeda> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hessonite> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Cats eye> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it> >>>>>>>>>> comes to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> applying any> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advice and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice> >>>>>>>>>> that I> >>>>>>>>>> have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gathered> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > my> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> teacher.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the> >>>>>>>>>> first,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> fifth and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart.> >>>>>>>>>> These are> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will support the native in their> >>>>>>>>>> purpose> >>>>>>>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> life. The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> first> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lord> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> protects the head and> >>>>>>>>>> intelligence, the> >>>>>>>>>> fifth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> protects> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> hands> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth> >>>>>>>>>> protects the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> legs, and hence> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native will always select the> >>>>>>>>>> best path> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> life if the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus> >>>>>>>>>> the ninth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lord is the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> most> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can> >>>>>>>>>> also be> >>>>>>>>>> used to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> advise the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in> >>>>>>>>>> particular parts> >>>>>>>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the body.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth> >>>>>>>>>> house cause> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> misfortune,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> such> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gold ring> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Pearl> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or> >>>>>>>>>> twelfth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> house lords> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> are> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife,> >>>>>>>>>> disease> >>>>>>>>>> and loss> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> should not be worn.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are> >>>>>>>>>> exceptions> >>>>>>>>>> which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> occur on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> account of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri> >>>>>>>>>> Classes)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by> >>>>>>>>>> affecting the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> four> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ayana or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> goals> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma,> >>>>>>>>>> artha,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ka-ma and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> moksha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second,> >>>>>>>>>> third or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> fourth pada> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> watery> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> signs> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> respectively.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana> >>>>>>>>>> yoga with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> another, then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> other> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana> >>>>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> former graha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Therefore,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana with> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sixth lord> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be> >>>>>>>>>> advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti> >>>>>>>>>> another> >>>>>>>>>> graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it takes on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> three of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other> >>>>>>>>>> graha. Which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> three ayana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> depends on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha> >>>>>>>>>> sign> >>>>>>>>>> ii)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the two signs> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> adjacent> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If> >>>>>>>>>> Sun is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> joined Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus.> >>>>>>>>>> In such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> case should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of> >>>>>>>>>> Capricorn then> >>>>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would give> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to> >>>>>>>>>> being in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> an earthy> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Navamsha,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha> >>>>>>>>>> before is> >>>>>>>>>> that of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> a fiery> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sign> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign,> >>>>>>>>>> the Sun> >>>>>>>>>> would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> give the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> effects of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and> >>>>>>>>>> ka-ma-> >>>>>>>>>> ayana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (airy) as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> well,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> interchange of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> effects> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural> >>>>>>>>>> benefic/malefic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> indications> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter,> >>>>>>>>>> Saturn and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mercury join then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest> >>>>>>>>>> benefic will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> interchange> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> results,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> interchange results> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> whilst> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the> >>>>>>>>>> results of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> anyone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> apply> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz.> >>>>>>>>>> Samdristi and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Parivartana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account> >>>>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> purpose as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> they> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> only> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the> >>>>>>>>>> full> >>>>>>>>>> four> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ayana of a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha, yet> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> #> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of> >>>>>>>>>> the sixth,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> eighth or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> twelfth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lords> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those> >>>>>>>>>> graha are> >>>>>>>>>> causing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> excessive> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This> >>>>>>>>>> occurs when> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> another graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> causing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus> >>>>>>>>>> denying it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> of its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > positive> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recalled to have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> given the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces> >>>>>>>>>> Lagna, as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sun was in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> sixth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth.> >>>>>>>>>> In that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> specific> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> scenario> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of> >>>>>>>>>> repeated> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> legal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> battles.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu.> >>>>>>>>>> This is> >>>>>>>>>> further> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> explained> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> as:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana> >>>>>>>>>> bhavas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> (10^th ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1^st or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 5^th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an> >>>>>>>>>> eclipse> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> on the third> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> graha in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz.> >>>>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> order of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> weekdays> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun,> >>>>>>>>>> hence> >>>>>>>>>> when> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Rähu is in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> tenth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> house the native will have> >>>>>>>>>> problems on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> account of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in> >>>>>>>>>> their life.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only> >>>>>>>>>> Mars is> >>>>>>>>>> placed> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> fifth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of> >>>>>>>>>> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> will be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > hampered.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in> >>>>>>>>>> matters> >>>>>>>>>> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Jyotish, and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> this is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles> >>>>>>>>>> in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Brighu Sutras.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> #> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Guna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 1> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sun> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Satva> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 2> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 3> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Jupiter> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 4> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rähu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 5> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mercury> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Rajas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 6> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Venus> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 7> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Ketu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 8> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Saturn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Tamas> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> 9> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat> >>>>>>>>>> differently> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> than the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Varachakra.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then> >>>>>>>>>> we can> >>>>>>>>>> choose> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to lock or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> unlock> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or> >>>>>>>>>> seventh> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> graha in the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example:> >>>>>>>>>> cancer> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> tumours are> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> caused> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of> >>>>>>>>>> cancer-cells in> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> body and is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted> >>>>>>>>>> Jupiter. In the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> fourth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can> >>>>>>>>>> block the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> spread of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> cancer.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease> >>>>>>>>>> wearing> >>>>>>>>>> diamond> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is advised> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> along> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> cause nervous> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> system> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the> >>>>>>>>>> likes,> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> to block> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> issue> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised> >>>>>>>>>> along> >>>>>>>>>> with the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mrtyunjaya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> bijas.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be> >>>>>>>>>> blocking the> >>>>>>>>>> native> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> in one> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> aspect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th> >>>>>>>>>> graha) is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> required. I.e.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> if> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is> >>>>>>>>>> placed in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Libra, the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> native> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on> >>>>>>>>>> account of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrong> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> application> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the> >>>>>>>>>> intellect> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be deemed> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> as> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> locked> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow> >>>>>>>>>> Topaz/Sapphire is> >>>>>>>>>> advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> if Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no> >>>>>>>>>> ni-cha> >>>>>>>>>> bhanga> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> then a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Blue> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the> >>>>>>>>>> seventh> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> graha from> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock> >>>>>>>>>> these> >>>>>>>>>> negatives.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more> >>>>>>>>>> applications> >>>>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gunachakra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> in this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until> >>>>>>>>>> I have> >>>>>>>>>> been> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> presented> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> as per> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Rashi chart> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha> >>>>>>>>>> Drekkana.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Herein> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> lording> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the> >>>>>>>>>> ojas in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the body> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This> >>>>>>>>>> gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is therefore> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > not> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord> >>>>>>>>>> of the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> twelfth as this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house> >>>>>>>>>> causing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> celibacy to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and> >>>>>>>>>> eighth> >>>>>>>>>> lords> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> affect the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> partner> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those> >>>>>>>>>> gemstones> >>>>>>>>>> should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> preferably> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> also> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third> >>>>>>>>>> lord's> >>>>>>>>>> gem can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> increase> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and> >>>>>>>>>> advising> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this gemstone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the> >>>>>>>>>> lagna> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lord is the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame.> >>>>>>>>>> Apply this> >>>>>>>>>> advice> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> intelligently.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------> >>>>>>>>>> - ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda.> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./ <http://srigaruda./>> com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> namaste.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> troubles with the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> advent of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Rahu> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now ,> >>>>>>>>>> but still> >>>>>>>>>> you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> havent> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> answered .. is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each> >>>>>>>>>> other's> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones ? or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> real> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the> >>>>>>>>>> condition> >>>>>>>>>> for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemtsone> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exchange !!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really> >>>>>>>>>> understand> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> , that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> conjunction> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave> >>>>>>>>>> like each> >>>>>>>>>> other> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> completely ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> only do> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> dasha ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave> >>>>>>>>>> like> >>>>>>>>>> each> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> other ? then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> what does> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> same ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> if not the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> same , then> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana then> >>>>>>>>>> a conj ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> @> >>>>>>>>>> . com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat> >>>>>>>>>> h%40.> >>>>>>>>>> com>,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the> >>>>>>>>>> legal> >>>>>>>>>> issues> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and jail> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> time,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> through his> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha> >>>>>>>>>> Dasa of> >>>>>>>>>> Mars he was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> untouched. It was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> not> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw> >>>>>>>>>> problems,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> hence> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pointing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> out> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> clearly> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral> >>>>>>>>>> during> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mahadasa> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> perfect> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advise...> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister> >>>>>>>>>> after> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wearing it!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> How> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> many can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> attaining that once> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> following a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > ------------ ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------- -----> >>>>>>>>>> ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda./ <http://srigaruda./>> com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://srigaruda. com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> going to jail> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> and also> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> being> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> effects) , that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> eventually> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> came> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some> >>>>>>>>>> of his> >>>>>>>>>> own> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> party members> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> associates> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of> >>>>>>>>>> bribery> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> even showed> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> briefcase ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually> >>>>>>>>>> deliveered> >>>>>>>>>> INR 10> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> million .> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned ,> >>>>>>>>>> that a> >>>>>>>>>> red> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> coral is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> being> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> advised to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> worn> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj> >>>>>>>>>> of Mars> >>>>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mercury in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 10th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> House ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> merc> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> comprehend the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> basic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> theory> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> behind> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember> >>>>>>>>>> reading> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> somehwere on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> your website> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> where> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> parivartana is actual> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> exhange of> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> houses> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of> >>>>>>>>>> each> >>>>>>>>>> others in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dasas's ... but> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> actual> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience /> >>>>>>>>>> benificience> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is based> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> upon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Rasi /> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly> >>>>>>>>>> advise a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstone just> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> based upon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> rasi and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa ,> >>>>>>>>>> especially> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> when career> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> concerend ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana> >>>>>>>>>> Yoga in> >>>>>>>>>> Lagna in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Narasimha's> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> somehow> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should> >>>>>>>>>> have> >>>>>>>>>> been> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the Emerald> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> that he> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> should> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a> >>>>>>>>>> Nipuna Yoga> >>>>>>>>>> with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the Sun ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> once again> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> emerald.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick> >>>>>>>>>> up this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> thing with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> out ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> glad swee> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> bought> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > it up !!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------> >>>>>>>>>> -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your> >>>>>>>>>> messenger and> >>>>>>>>>> enjoy!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Invite> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> them> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> now.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge> >>>>>>>>>> r_6/*http:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge> >>>>>>>>>> r_6/*http:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge> >>>>>>>>>> r_6/*http:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://in.rd. / tagline_messenge> >>>>>>>>>> r_6/*http:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> //messenger. .c> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c> >>>>>>>>>> <http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> om/invite/>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> ---------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> -------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > No virus found in this incoming> >>>>>>>>>> message.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/ <http://www.avg.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/ <http://www.avg.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 270.9.18/1851 -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Release> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Date:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> 2008-12-16 08:53> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------- --------- -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > -------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/ <http://www.avg.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.avg. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/ <http://www.avg.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database:> >>>>>>>>>> 270.9.19/1853 -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Release> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Date:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > 2008-12-17 08:31> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------> >>>>>>>>>> -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------- -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.avg.com/ <http://www.avg.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database:> >>>>>>>>>> 270.9.19/1853 -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Release Date:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2008-12-17 08:31> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----------------------> >>>>>>>>>> -----------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 -> >>>>>>>>>> Release 2008-12-17 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Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Thanks for presenting case.. Few things need to be consider before giving remedy The budha is dara pada (A7) lord who's dasa is going on 7th from budha shows the business partner that is shukra shukra is marka to the dara pada in curse in the badhka sthana along with the 11th lord from AL this all happening in the third from AL (will black action for creation).. venus will block the business … Rajya pada is in Kendra from AL but in the 6th house from lagna the lord of rajya pada (which AL langna lord also) guru in is in neecha second from the rajaya pada (A10).. in over all this is not showing good carrier at all .. As sustains is also weak.. as in panchanga the chander is karna lord neecha 5th from lagna and 9th from AL .. adi shkati pooja Now for remedy the chander is breaking kalamirta yoga which is lagna lord and placed in 9th from AL and this neech getting neecha bhanga in full ..( I doubt for budha AK in navansh lagna) any way in all cases chander need up-liftment ….joytir linga mantra for budha being paak pakesha amsha lord… which is second from AL… gving neecha bhanga to guru also..as i mentioned above moon is karna lord Regard 2008/12/31 jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta Dear Anurag, In this chart, Langa lord and AK Sun is conjoined the VRY. So definitely the power is being transfered to the native. His Moon dasa has aleardy passed, but Sat dasa is going to start in sept, 2013. In my view, his VRY should get activated then. Moon is already exaulted and very strong and Sat is also in friend's house. I did post another chart few days back. DOB-17.05.1973 TOB-11:30 AM Place-Mumbai (India) No body has commented on this chart. Cancer Asc. 12L & 3L Mer in Aries. Mer is AK also. Though Mer has rashi dristi on lagna lord Moon, but Mer being AK, will not the native be destroyed himself by the VRY? His Mer dasa is on and he is already in a bit trouble and confused due to death of his business partner in an accident, and thinking of closing the business. What is the advice here? Should his Mer be strenghtened or the debilated Moon be strenghtened or it should left as it is, because strenghtening Mer will further worsen the situation. Regards Jk On Behalf Of Anurag SharmaTuesday, December 30, 2008 8:34 PM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? |Om Shreem Vishnave Namah| Dear Visti & Rafal, Namaskar. This VRY in Kendra is an interesting Yoga and occurs in one's chart in the 10th House. (11th June, 1972; 10:17:56 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India). It causes the downfall of an ally, perhaps a seeming ally with improvements in one's own situation. Here neither Shani nor Chandra have Digbal but the Lagnesh and AK Surya does. Of course the VRY is also Shani-Chandra Yoga in 10th House. After the end of the string of Moola Dashas (Lagna, Sun, Moon computation), involved in the Curse, life began to change in accord with the Yoga (VRY and Shani-Chandra). Here there is no need for Ratna as Surya is not impacted by the Yuti. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> In case of a VRY in a Dusthana its enemies destroying each other. This > is good whether or not you are picking up the pieces after them.> But, in Kendra when a VRY occurs then a title or position is vacant in > your own support group and therefore the Lana is important in such a case.> Theres a difference between Raja Yoga and Raja Sambandha yoga. In the > former you are the leader and in the latter you associate with the > leader or work for the leader. Some people will consider both as being > quite good, but Raja Sambandha yoga does not guarantee leadership in itself.> > Having said that you must now appreciate why the VRY in a Kendra must be > strong, and not weak like the VRY in a Dusthana. The reason being that > if the dusthana lords are not strong in Kendra then they will cause > rajbhanga yoga, as you have also written in your article.> > Thus, if they are weak in Kendra then the person them self will also > fall especially if the Lagna is associated, as in that case you are also > the target of the event which causes the fall, i.e. PV Narasimha was the > main target of many accusations of corruption and the likes.> > Therefore, strengthening one of the Dusthana lords would save his > Lagnesh from falling as then the VRY would be strong in Kendra!> > Is there anything in the last three paragraphs of what I have written > that doesn't make sense?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ----------> www: http://srigaruda.com> @: visti > Rafal G skrev:> >> > Dear Guruji,> > Yes, but that should also be in the cases of other yogas where the > > title/responsibility is also given like 2L in 10H? Or you mean its for > > all yogas ? Why this is not important for dusthana type of VRY? There > > is also 'title' to get from the struggle.> > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> >> >> > Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane.> > ??? ??? ?????> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > I think I'm mixing some Danish words into my vocabulary.> > The English mantel is a fire place, so just forget that word.> > I mean to say that the actual title or responsibility is given to> > the person only through the Lagna/Lagnesha and Argala is not> > enough. Similarly Lagna (or Lagnesha) is important for the Yogadas> > to happens, i.e. when GL and HL associate with a graha, and argala> > is not enough in such cases.> > Does that make sense to you?> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > ----------> > www: http://srigaruda.com> > @: visti >> > Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >> Dear Guruji,> >>> >> My dictionary didnt found this word Mantel.> >>> >> Regards> >> Rafal Gendarz> >>> >>> >> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>> ??? ??? ?????> >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>> Your application of Argala is right, but when there is VRY in> >>> Kendra to Lagna then the friend has fallen and the MANTEL has to> >>> be given away to someone else. > >>>> >>> If we rely solely on Argala then the VRY will be experienced and> >>> the native will also have fame in the situation but the MANTEL> >>> will not be given to the native. I.e. instead of being Prime> >>> Minister he could be the husband of the Prime Minister or the> >>> secretary of the Prime Minister.> >>> Thats why in case of VRY in Kendra the Lagna must be associated.> >>>> >>> Satisfied with this explanation? If so I can go on to the next> >>> explanation.> >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>> ----------> >>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>> @: visti >>>> >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>> >>>> Regarding the enjoyment of yoga it should have argala on AL,L> >>>> (Lagnesh),AK - so seems same for all yogas.> >>>> Why VRY should have special case here?> >>>>> >>>> Regards,> >>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>> -----------------------------> >>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>> rafal >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>> Regarding the Somanath Drekkana please check your personal email.> >>>>>> >>>>> Right now I'm explaining a case of Yuti for gemstones, so lets> >>>>> get over this hurdle first.> >>>>>> >>>>> Firstly, do you understand that when VRY occurs in a Kendra> >>>>> then it has to be associated with Lagna/Lagnesha for the> >>>>> native to enjoy it?> >>>>>> >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>> ----------> >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>> @: visti >>>>>> >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>> >>>>>> VRY shows that from bad event native is raising. This bad> >>>>>> event is related to friends in Kendra as it shows our> >>>>>> support. One enemy is hitting the other enemy therefore> >>>>>> native rises,> >>>>>> its similar to dusthana lord being weak in Navamsa. Now if> >>>>>> Lagnesh and 6L (for example Scorpio) is weak in Navamsa then> >>>>>> its good for sixth lord but bad for Lagnesh. Based on that I cant> >>>>>> understand why you said its only Lagnesh karakatwa gets> >>>>>> hit..not the lordship - native. Regarding debilitated planet> >>>>>> - it would not be good idea to strengthed it if its dusthana> >>>>>> lord as then the> >>>>>> Lagnesh is associated with strong enemy. Even if the yuti> >>>>>> avastha hits the Lagnesh we should do it in the way that it> >>>>>> helps the Lagnesh, here strenghting Coral could be good for> >>>>>> destroying 12L,> >>>>>> but I dont see any reason why the Lagnesh is spared from> >>>>>> destruction. I can only depend on your teachings regarding 2H> >>>>>> in D3..you said its also related to health issues.> >>>>>>> >>>>>> When we use yuti and when parivartana for the gems?> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>>>> rafal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>> Answers to each of your points.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> a. Get Lesson 5 from Varahamihira. If you don't have access> >>>>>>> then talk to Sarajit.> >>>>>>> Your logic is fine for VRY in a DUSTHANA... not so for> >>>>>>> Kendra as in Kendra the VRY has to transfer its energy to> >>>>>>> the Lagna somehow otherwise the native will not enjoy the> >>>>>>> Rajayoga. Therefore how can we say that VRY in a Kendra> >>>>>>> associated with the Lagna will destroy the Lagna if it MUST> >>>>>>> be associated with Lagna to give the Rajayoga to begin with?> >>>>>>> Right the logic is flawed and thats because the natural> >>>>>>> significance of the Lagnesh will instead be hit, i.e. in> >>>>>>> case of Mercury a friend or colleague will fall.> >>>>>>> Does my earlier mail make more sense now? Compare this to> >>>>>>> the article you wrote on Rajbhanga Yoga.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> b. Thats right. Arudha shows ones fame just for this life> >>>>>>> and that fame dies with ones body, or the objects one> >>>>>>> creates i.e. like Van Gogh being known for his art but not> >>>>>>> really the rest of his life.> >>>>>>> The Lagna gives LASTING fame even beyond death for ones> >>>>>>> actions so therefore both Lagna and Arudha Lagna do give> >>>>>>> fame and the strong Moon in Kendra to either is supposed to> >>>>>>> grant fame in some way. The extent of this fame is a> >>>>>>> separate issue.> >>>>>>> Therefore again for a Vishnu Avatara a basic requirement is> >>>>>>> that the Moon is on the Lagna (in same Tara- refer Brhat> >>>>>>> Nakshatra).> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> c. 'Afflict' is not the right word for second house in S3. I> >>>>>>> know I have written about the second house in Somanath> >>>>>>> Drekkana and shown its usage with charts of the> >>>>>>> Shankaracharyas of Kamakoti Math as well as others. Possibly> >>>>>>> was it in my book or somewhere else? Do find it as that> >>>>>>> would clarify in more detail what the second house does.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> d. See a. Point is that if he didn't strengthen Mars then> >>>>>>> Mercury would fall as a result of Mars not being exalted or> >>>>>>> in any high dignity, i.e. there would be Rajbhanga yoga if> >>>>>>> he didn't strengthen Mars, and this would be felt in his> >>>>>>> Lagnesh. In essence its like Lagnesh being joined a> >>>>>>> debilitated planet so we strengthen the weak planet to make> >>>>>>> Lagnesh happy. This is not the same as being in planetary> >>>>>>> war or the likes.> >>>>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>> ----------> >>>>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>>>> @: visti >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a. VRA destroys the planets its yuti..Venus for> >>>>>>>> inlaws..Guru for own family [cova]. Based on that Lagnesh> >>>>>>>> is afflicted and its sustanence should be rescued by> >>>>>>>> emerald not by strenghting> >>>>>>>> the enmity graha..as it will hit the Budha-Lagnesh-Native.> >>>>>>>> its ok for rajayoga but native is also destroyed here.> >>>>>>>> Instead if there is Rajayoga we can help through> >>>>>>>> strenghting the dispositor - here it would help native and> >>>>>>>> bring the rajayoga. Or strenghting otherwise rajayoga and> >>>>>>>> help the Budha for being spoilt by the naisargika and> >>>>>>>> temporal malefic for Budha and for Kanya.> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> b. I thought Arudha shows for what native is wellknown.> >>>>>>>> Jananivasa case...Lagnesh with Rahu/Sun/Mars..he is known> >>>>>>>> by art and Shukra is in AL> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> c. Ojas is related to health not only sexuality. So giving> >>>>>>>> the gem of 2H in D3 afflicts the ojas..final substance> >>>>>>>> coming out from Dhatus placed in heart and being the> >>>>>>>> essence of life per C.Samhita.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> d. Once you give the arguments about yuti and then about> >>>>>>>> strenghting Mangal..I am confused.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My logic says it was very bad choice..where I went wrong> >>>>>>>> with the logic.> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>> http://rohinaa.com> >>>>>>>> rafal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>> Dear Rafal and Chandan, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>> 2 points need to be raised.> >>>>>>>>> I) I haven't changed my statement reg. the yuti-exchange.> >>>>>>>>> II) What you will be known for is seen from your lagna or> >>>>>>>>> its lord. So in the case of PV Narasimha Rao the Lagna> >>>>>>>>> lord is Mercury in Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga in Gemini> >>>>>>>>> (trade and contracts) and he will be known for some very> >>>>>>>>> daring reforms in the business and finance sector. You> >>>>>>>>> cannot be known for your achievements if the Lagnesh is weak.> >>>>>>>>> Further, for a Vipareet Raja Yoga in Kendra to Lagna to> >>>>>>>>> work the Grahas involved must be strong and associated> >>>>>>>>> with the Lagnesh.> >>>>>>>>> Combine these factors and see in his case that the VRY is> >>>>>>>>> indeed joined the Lagnesh, but since the grahas (Mars and> >>>>>>>>> Sun) are not particularly strong in Gemini then once the> >>>>>>>>> Vipareet Raja Yoga works then his Lagnesh ALSO will be> >>>>>>>>> pulled down and suffer. I.e. both he and Rajiv Gandhi> >>>>>>>>> would suffer.> >>>>>>>>> Hence, had he not strengthen Mars by wearing that Coral> >>>>>>>>> his Lagnesh Mercury would have suffered very badly as Mars> >>>>>>>>> needed to be made strong to make him survive the VRY.> >>>>>>>>> Therefore he was also during his tenure going through a> >>>>>>>>> lot of tribulations and people didn't think he would last> >>>>>>>>> his tenure as Prime Minister.> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So the Coral actually saved him during his tenure. The> >>>>>>>>> Jyotisha who advised him this gemstone was brilliant> >>>>>>>>> indeed. In fact if I'm not wrong he continued the legacy> >>>>>>>>> of Rajiv Gandhi regarding the financial reforms, hence his> >>>>>>>>> perseverance in politics ended up in favour of his> >>>>>>>>> predecessor. In fact had he not continued then who knows> >>>>>>>>> what would have happened to all that implemented by Rajiv.> >>>>>>>>> I hope this clarifies once again.> >>>>>>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>> ----------> >>>>>>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com> >>>>>>>>> @: visti >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> chandan486 skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Visti,> >>>>>>>>>> Namaste.> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Should we really advise gems of grahas causing VRY ? As> >>>>>>>>>> far as im> >>>>>>>>>> aware of , gems of grahas causing VRY should never be> >>>>>>>>>> advised , as> >>>>>>>>>> VRY itself indicates fall / loss of somebody else for the> >>>>>>>>>> native to> >>>>>>>>>> gain..> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So wearing the gemstone of a graha causing VRY is akin to> >>>>>>>>>> like> >>>>>>>>>> killing somebody for your own good ! How Rajasic and non-> >>>>>>>>>> sattwic is> >>>>>>>>>> that!! ? We can get what we want in this life through all> >>>>>>>>>> these> >>>>>>>>>> gems , but we are definately asnwerable for our karma in> >>>>>>>>>> the next> >>>>>>>>>> life !> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So i dont think wearing a gemstone of a graha causing VRY> >>>>>>>>>> is a good> >>>>>>>>>> idea since youre indirectly strengthening the damage> >>>>>>>>>> caused to some> >>>>>>>>>> body else !! How sane is it ? and as jyotisa's , its our> >>>>>>>>>> responsibility to show people the right sattwic way !!> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am really clear about this ! Maybe PV Narasimha rao> >>>>>>>>>> became PM ,but> >>>>>>>>>> if that coral caused somebody to die , so that his VRY could> >>>>>>>>>> flourish , how sane and dharmic is that ? cmon !> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Instead of fixing flaws flaws in his chart , somebody> >>>>>>>>>> made his> >>>>>>>>>> negative yogas all the more stronger , not fair !!> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> Chandan s sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> starsuponme@> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Ok, so Coral is strenghting vipareet rajayoga but gives> >>>>>>>>>> problem to> >>>>>>>>>> > Arudha and Bhadra (naisargika and tatkalika enemy), so> >>>>>>>>>> there is no> >>>>>>>>>> > yuti-exchange?> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > If there is yuti-exchange when/where we should apply it> >>>>>>>>>> and where> >>>>>>>>>> its> >>>>>>>>>> > only parivartana as that is not clear?> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > > I am citing Guruji on all these matters based on Atri> >>>>>>>>>> classes and> >>>>>>>>>> > > previous lessons. For those who have access to the> >>>>>>>>>> Varahamihira> >>>>>>>>>> list> >>>>>>>>>> > > there is a lesson called Vipareet Raja Yoga which is> >>>>>>>>>> lesson 5,> >>>>>>>>>> where> >>>>>>>>>> > > this example is also cited yet from a different> >>>>>>>>>> perspective.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Apply the Somanath Drekkana rules wisely. At the age when> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> > > was taking his seat as PM he cannot be said to be very> >>>>>>>>>> sexually> >>>>>>>>>> > > active, hence of what concern is the second house in> >>>>>>>>>> S3? Hence I> >>>>>>>>>> wrote> >>>>>>>>>> > > in the end of my write up that these principles for> >>>>>>>>>> the S3 need> >>>>>>>>>> to be> >>>>>>>>>> > > intelligently applied.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Regarding Vipareet Raja Yoga, when Dusthana lords join> >>>>>>>>>> in a> >>>>>>>>>> Kendra> >>>>>>>>>> > > they need to be strong, and a vital problem in the> >>>>>>>>>> chart was that> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > > is combust by the Sun in this chart within one degree.> >>>>>>>>>> Hence> >>>>>>>>>> another> >>>>>>>>>> > > reason that he was advised the Coral to strengthen Mars.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Now, when a Graha is causing durbhagya (malefic> >>>>>>>>>> aspecting/joining> >>>>>>>>>> > > ninth house), duryoga or lord of the sixth house do> >>>>>>>>>> not wear its> >>>>>>>>>> > > gemstone by any chance.> >>>>>>>>>> > > Instead when its causing Rajayoga it can be worn.> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > > ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Dear Guruji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini> >>>>>>>>>> Rasi is> >>>>>>>>>> similar> >>>>>>>>>> > >> to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives> >>>>>>>>>> rajayoga,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case> >>>>>>>>>> > >> as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous> >>>>>>>>>> case), not the> >>>>>>>>>> 8L -> >>>>>>>>>> > >> enemy. You can say that there> >>>>>>>>>> > >> are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the> >>>>>>>>>> case with> >>>>>>>>>> gems> >>>>>>>>>> > >> as Sanjayji example is indicating.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna> >>>>>>>>>> lord is> >>>>>>>>>> advised> >>>>>>>>>> > >> that is the rule of Sanjayji based> >>>>>>>>>> > >> on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per> >>>>>>>>>> your> >>>>>>>>>> teachings.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should> >>>>>>>>>> make it> >>>>>>>>>> > >> stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> so we should not strength the affliction but the> >>>>>>>>>> native! No yuti> >>>>>>>>>> rule> >>>>>>>>>> > >> for gems per your teachings.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is> >>>>>>>>>> occuring in> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing> >>>>>>>>>> that when> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his> >>>>>>>>>> Bhadra yoga> >>>>>>>>>> becomes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is> >>>>>>>>>> conjoined> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> two malefics by lordships and natural significance.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the> >>>>>>>>>> malificence of> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars> >>>>>>>>>> are the most> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and> >>>>>>>>>> will exchange> >>>>>>>>>> results.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe> >>>>>>>>>> affliction and> >>>>>>>>>> curse> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> which would end up giving the results of the> >>>>>>>>>> Vipareet yoga on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits> >>>>>>>>>> were launched> >>>>>>>>>> on him.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So finally its because they do exchange results,> >>>>>>>>>> point is that> >>>>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> exchange of results would not be good if in a> >>>>>>>>>> malefic house.> >>>>>>>>>> I.e.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle> >>>>>>>>>> is that the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so> >>>>>>>>>> if Mercury,> >>>>>>>>>> Mars> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he> >>>>>>>>>> personally> >>>>>>>>>> would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> suffer a lot by wearing a Coral.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> So finally the house placement must also be good.> >>>>>>>>>> Specifically> >>>>>>>>>> first> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> and tenth will also benefit longevity.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend> >>>>>>>>>> falls.> >>>>>>>>>> Lagnesh> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> there threatens ones own fall also (hence the> >>>>>>>>>> remedy). And so> >>>>>>>>>> it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through> >>>>>>>>>> which his> >>>>>>>>>> colleague> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics,> >>>>>>>>>> and they> >>>>>>>>>> all> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> looked to Narasimha as a leader.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> It happened after his retirement because of Mars> >>>>>>>>>> (also Varesha)> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> the tenth.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Dear Guruji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still> >>>>>>>>>> dusthana lord> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> As the more mails the things are more complicated.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Now your getting it. See that its not always good> >>>>>>>>>> to give the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and> >>>>>>>>>> we cannot do> >>>>>>>>>> so> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> blindly.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun> >>>>>>>>>> joined for> >>>>>>>>>> Pisces> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in> >>>>>>>>>> such a> >>>>>>>>>> combination> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> can increase enmity and such sixth house problems> >>>>>>>>>> depending> >>>>>>>>>> on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> placement. Therefore in the example you gave if> >>>>>>>>>> the two were> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then> >>>>>>>>>> wearing a> >>>>>>>>>> Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on> >>>>>>>>>> a Monday> >>>>>>>>>> or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Sunday it would horrible for the health.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it> >>>>>>>>>> would prove> >>>>>>>>>> to be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> excellent and also increase longevity.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> If the two are in planetary war then there is no> >>>>>>>>>> doubt, i.e.> >>>>>>>>>> don't> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a> >>>>>>>>>> trikona by> >>>>>>>>>> wearing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> the other grahas gemstone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as> >>>>>>>>>> if such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> combination is badly placed it would be> >>>>>>>>>> devastating to wear> >>>>>>>>>> such a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> gemstone.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> ----------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Rafal Gendarz skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle> >>>>>>>>>> Sanjyaji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra> >>>>>>>>>> Lagnadhipati is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> conjoined Budha, but still> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is> >>>>>>>>>> 6L). Based> >>>>>>>>>> on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore> >>>>>>>>>> we cant say> >>>>>>>>>> that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Coral was good for Narasimha Rao> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is> >>>>>>>>>> opposite to> >>>>>>>>>> previous> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> teachings and examples.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> -----------------------------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> rajarshi nandy pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been trying to follow this excahnge of> >>>>>>>>>> mails and> >>>>>>>>>> getting> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> a little confused. You said:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> //> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem> >>>>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> when it comes to trikona lords/> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between> >>>>>>>>>> trikona lord and> >>>>>>>>>> any> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Regards> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rajarshi> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> /*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava -> >>>>>>>>>> Shiva Sutra*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> */> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- On *Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> /starsuponme@/*> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> >>>>>>>>>> gemstone on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> divisonal charts ?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem> >>>>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also> >>>>>>>>>> hard to> >>>>>>>>>> seen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> is not only connected to spirituality but also to> >>>>>>>>>> marriage,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> materialists.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we> >>>>>>>>>> know how> >>>>>>>>>> much> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal> >>>>>>>>>> malefic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth> >>>>>>>>>> bhava. If> >>>>>>>>>> we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> use only parivartana for gems then based solely> >>>>>>>>>> on this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate> >>>>>>>>>> decision.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it> >>>>>>>>>> as its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in> >>>>>>>>>> naisargika and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by> >>>>>>>>>> lordship,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> sambandha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving> >>>>>>>>>> poverty and> >>>>>>>>>> sits> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> in 2H in D3 (Sn).> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What special rule I have omitted which conquers> >>>>>>>>>> all the> >>>>>>>>>> bad> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> which Mangal gives here?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> OR> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for> >>>>>>>>>> Sun+Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> did it.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://rohinaa. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> chandan486 pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ||aum namah shivaya||> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Namaste.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been reading the constant discussions> >>>>>>>>>> between> >>>>>>>>>> rafal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha> >>>>>>>>>> Rao's> >>>>>>>>>> details.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my> >>>>>>>>>> personal> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> chart> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain> >>>>>>>>>> what i> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> seem to be> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> correct about the advise for a Red Coral.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas ,> >>>>>>>>>> which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> can be seen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have> >>>>>>>>>> exchanged.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Now in this particular case , as Mangal and> >>>>>>>>>> Merc. have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> conjoined ,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on> >>>>>>>>>> the ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> adjacent to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it , those ayanas will get exchanged.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha ,> >>>>>>>>>> Aquarius -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Kama and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Pisces - Moksha.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the> >>>>>>>>>> ones> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> adjacent to it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini -> >>>>>>>>>> Kaama and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cancer -> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moksha ..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The only Pada / ayana that does not get> >>>>>>>>>> exchanged due> >>>>>>>>>> to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> political leader> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this> >>>>>>>>>> ayana .> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig> >>>>>>>>>> bala which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Zoran already> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on> >>>>>>>>>> GL , with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> nothing to> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> obstruct.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on> >>>>>>>>>> GL,which> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> anyways is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal> >>>>>>>>>> argala> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> prevails.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha> >>>>>>>>>> Merc is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Varki ..> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is> >>>>>>>>>> not a> >>>>>>>>>> good> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> idea , as it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> only increases the power of retrogression , hence> >>>>>>>>>> coral is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> best> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I think i made a pretty neat assemement.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Comments Please !!> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> humble regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Chandan S Sabarwal.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>, Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ ...>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked> >>>>>>>>>> why> >>>>>>>>>> Coral> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> answer was:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined> >>>>>>>>>> Grahas> >>>>>>>>>> so do> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> gemstones.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > that clarify?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Now you are stating again that it is only for> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > June 28, 1921> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Time: 12:49:00> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and> >>>>>>>>>> Mangal> >>>>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> third and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> eight> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > lord, so the question is the same :> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena> >>>>>>>>>> Lagna> >>>>>>>>>> Moon> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and Surya> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > we perscribe Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > b) its only for parivartana and then why> >>>>>>>>>> Coral for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > If there is no answer to this simple question> >>>>>>>>>> then> >>>>>>>>>> just> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> admit it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating> >>>>>>>>>> myself.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ahimsavm pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Dear Rafal,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same.> >>>>>>>>>> Visti has> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> very> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada> >>>>>>>>>> effects are> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> reversed,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > so one pada or leg is remained> >>>>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,> >>>>>>>>>> if we> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> subsitute> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully> >>>>>>>>>> reversing> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> their> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> uninfluenced. So,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for> >>>>>>>>>> ekapada.> >>>>>>>>>> Only in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Full> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recommending the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> change> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with> >>>>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> in 5th> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> house and> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was> >>>>>>>>>> parivartana of> >>>>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and Shukra.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second> >>>>>>>>>> house,> >>>>>>>>>> Sanjayji> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> recommended> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> specifically. This> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> was> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > further very wise choice since Shani rules> >>>>>>>>>> lagna> >>>>>>>>>> as well.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Best wishes> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > www.siva-edu. info> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <%40>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>,> >>>>>>>>>> Rafal> >>>>>>>>>> Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <starsuponme@ >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > wrote:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > The whole disussion is about if we use> >>>>>>>>>> the other> >>>>>>>>>> gem> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> based on> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > or> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then> >>>>>>>>>> you say> >>>>>>>>>> its> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> also for> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > yuti, now> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only> >>>>>>>>>> again. If> >>>>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> lord is with> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as> >>>>>>>>>> then the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Shani> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > will> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > work, based on that using Neelam will> >>>>>>>>>> strenghten> >>>>>>>>>> the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> yuti graha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > which is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord> >>>>>>>>>> neecha> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sign ? How> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > perscribe 6L gem?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution> >>>>>>>>>> of gems> >>>>>>>>>> can> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> be done> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ONLY> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > PARIVARTANA. " > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > How then Coral could be good for> >>>>>>>>>> Narasimha Rao?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Or I have missed something?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Regards,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Rafal Gendarz> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > ------------ --------- --------> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Consultations and Pages:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://rohinaa.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > rafal@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > Visti Larsen pisze:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ??? ??? ?????> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti> >>>>>>>>>> ninth> >>>>>>>>>> lord?> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> That would> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > give> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the> >>>>>>>>>> main> >>>>>>>>>> points> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> that Zoki> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> is> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > rising here.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> >>>>>>>>>> --------- ----> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> >>>>>>>>>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > @: visti@> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > ahimsavm skrev:> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Dear Rafal,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is> >>>>>>>>>> correct.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> However,> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> this> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> PARIVARTANA. If you> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > have> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for> >>>>>>>>>> Meena, I> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would never> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > prescribe> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is> >>>>>>>>>> placed> >>>>>>>>>> in> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 8th house.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > that> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue> >>>>>>>>>> Sapphire for> >>>>>>>>>> health.> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby> >>>>>>>>>> because it> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> would block the> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >...[Message clipped] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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