Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan, Namaskar. The way to remedy Rahu in ninth is through Yellow Sapphire, and if no other graha are placed there then this is the primary remedy. Planets yuti the lord of the ninth can also cause problems, i.e. Rahu yuti ninth lord also causes durbhagya and requires the same remedy. Thus if one can find a combined remedy for both Rahu and Saturn it would be most suitable. Still the Pushparaga is the primary remedy. I do know of one such situation where the native wore a Yellow Heliodore to remedy this problem of Shani-Rahu dosha on the ninth. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti , namaste ... First of all , thanks a lot for sharing all the invalueable info. but after reading this , a simple question again pops up!! 1.If a person has mesha lagna and rahu is placed in 9th house , normally a Yellow sapphire would be advised , as you mentioned in the article .. but what if jupiter is conj sat ? then also would a yellow sapphire be advised ? or based on conj , a blue sapphire would now be choice ? and no unlock rahu in 9th house , a different gemstone based on varachakra would be used ? pls help clear thus understanding , humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan, Namaskar. The concept of a graha being well placed implies that its well placed from Arudha Lagna also. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. after all the articles you mentioned about gemstones , would it also be required to finally check the graha's placement from AL ? consdiering the graha meets all the other requirements ? Or if all the other requirements are met , placement from AL can be ignored ? humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > Yes. > > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise > > then he would not have cancer. > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > Still the advise is the same. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> Dear Visti > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead > >> of diamond? > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >> 12:20 pm > >> calcutta > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> /* > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> */ > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/* wrote: > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal > >> charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >> > >> WOW! > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry Christmas > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> divisonal charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I > >> have learned and have to share. > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not literally > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ meaning a > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- rya > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ For the > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by most, > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be regarded > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la (Sapphire) /we must > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, whilst > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >> > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the rare > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- raka > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as /gunatmaka/, > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >> further below. > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Finger > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga (topaz) > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Translation > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> Mukta > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Vidruma > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Marakata > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> Vajra > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Indrani-la > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> Rahu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gomeda > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >> teacher. > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >> native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gold ring > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and > >> should not be worn. > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of > >> Yoga. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, but > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet > >> are still applied when timing events. > >> > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or 5^th > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Guna > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Satva > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajas > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Tamas > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if for > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha lording > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and will > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone should > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > >>> dear visti, > >>> namaste. > >>> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of > >>> Rahu > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! > >>> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or > >>> only do > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>> > >>> humble regards, > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but > >>> through his > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was > >>> not > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out > >>> clearly > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect > >>> advise... > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > >>> > remedial measure? > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>> > > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > > > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>> > > namaste ! > >>> > > > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also > >>> being > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually > >>> came > >>> came > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >>> associates > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >>> briefcase , > >>> in > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >>> > > > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >>> advised to > >>> worn > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , > >>> merc > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory > >>> behind > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website > >>> where > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of > >>> houses > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>> > > > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but > >>> actual > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>> > > > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon > >>> rasi and > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >>> concerend ? > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , > >>> somehow > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he > >>> should > >>> have > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>> > > > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again > >>> emerald. > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee > >>> bought > >>> > > it up !! > >>> > > > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------- ------------ > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising here. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti ahimsavm skrev: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > Yes. > > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise > > then he would not have cancer. > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > Still the advise is the same. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> Dear Visti > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead > >> of diamond? > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >> 12:20 pm > >> calcutta > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> /* > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> */ > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/* wrote: > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal > >> charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >> > >> WOW! > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> divisonal charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I > >> have learned and have to share. > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not literally > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ meaning a > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- rya > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ For the > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by most, > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be regarded > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la (Sapphire) /we must > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, whilst > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >> > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the rare > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- raka > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as /gunatmaka/, > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >> further below. > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Finger > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga (topaz) > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Translation > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> Mukta > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Vidruma > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Marakata > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> Vajra > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Indrani-la > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> Rahu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gomeda > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >> teacher. > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >> native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gold ring > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and > >> should not be worn. > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of > >> Yoga. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, but > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet > >> are still applied when timing events. > >> > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or 5^th > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Guna > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Satva > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajas > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Tamas > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if for > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha lording > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and will > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone should > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > >>> dear visti, > >>> namaste. > >>> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of > >>> Rahu > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! > >>> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or > >>> only do > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>> > >>> humble regards, > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but > >>> through his > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was > >>> not > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out > >>> clearly > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect > >>> advise... > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > >>> > remedial measure? > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>> > > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > > > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>> > > namaste ! > >>> > > > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also > >>> being > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually > >>> came > >>> came > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >>> associates > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >>> briefcase , > >>> in > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >>> > > > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >>> advised to > >>> worn > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , > >>> merc > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory > >>> behind > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website > >>> where > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of > >>> houses > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>> > > > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but > >>> actual > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>> > > > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon > >>> rasi and > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >>> concerend ? > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , > >>> somehow > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he > >>> should > >>> have > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>> > > > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again > >>> emerald. > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee > >>> bought > >>> > > it up !! > >>> > > > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- ------------ > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which is 9L so getting out of durbhagya. How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you perscribe 6L gem? Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. " How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? Or I have missed something? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising here. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ahimsavm skrev: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > Yes. > > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise > > then he would not have cancer. > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > Still the advise is the same. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> Dear Visti > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead > >> of diamond? > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >> 12:20 pm > >> calcutta > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> /* > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> */ > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/* wrote: > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal > >> charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >> > >> WOW! > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> divisonal charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I > >> have learned and have to share. > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not literally > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ meaning a > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- rya > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ For the > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by most, > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be regarded > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la (Sapphire) /we must > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, whilst > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >> > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the rare > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- raka > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as /gunatmaka/, > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >> further below. > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Finger > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga (topaz) > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Translation > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> Mukta > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Vidruma > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Marakata > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> Vajra > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Indrani-la > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> Rahu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gomeda > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >> teacher. > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >> native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gold ring > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and > >> should not be worn. > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of > >> Yoga. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, but > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet > >> are still applied when timing events. > >> > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or 5^th > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Guna > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Satva > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajas > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Tamas > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if for > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha lording > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and will > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone should > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > >>> dear visti, > >>> namaste. > >>> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of > >>> Rahu > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! > >>> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or > >>> only do > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>> > >>> humble regards, > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but > >>> through his > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was > >>> not > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out > >>> clearly > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect > >>> advise... > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > >>> > remedial measure? > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>> > > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > > > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>> > > namaste ! > >>> > > > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also > >>> being > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually > >>> came > >>> came > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >>> associates > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >>> briefcase , > >>> in > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >>> > > > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >>> advised to > >>> worn > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , > >>> merc > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory > >>> behind > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website > >>> where > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of > >>> houses > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>> > > > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but > >>> actual > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>> > > > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon > >>> rasi and > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >>> concerend ? > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , > >>> somehow > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he > >>> should > >>> have > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>> > > > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again > >>> emerald. > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee > >>> bought > >>> > > it up !! > >>> > > > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- ------------ > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you presented you will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the ninth house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with ninth lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya. That was related to the example you presented. Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by Guruji reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the strength of Parampara. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which is 9L so getting out of durbhagya. How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you perscribe 6L gem? Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. " How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? Or I have missed something? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising here. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ahimsavm skrev: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > Yes. > > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise > > then he would not have cancer. > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > Still the advise is the same. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> Dear Visti > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead > >> of diamond? > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >> 12:20 pm > >> calcutta > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> /* > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> */ > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/* wrote: > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal > >> charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >> > >> WOW! > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> divisonal charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I > >> have learned and have to share. > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not literally > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ meaning a > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- rya > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ For the > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by most, > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be regarded > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la (Sapphire) /we must > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, whilst > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >> > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the rare > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- raka > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as /gunatmaka/, > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >> further below. > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Finger > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga (topaz) > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Translation > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> Mukta > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Vidruma > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Marakata > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> Vajra > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Indrani-la > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> Rahu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gomeda > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >> teacher. > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >> native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gold ring > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and > >> should not be worn. > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of > >> Yoga. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, but > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet > >> are still applied when timing events. > >> > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or 5^th > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Guna > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Satva > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajas > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Tamas > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if for > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha lording > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and will > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone should > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > >>> dear visti, > >>> namaste. > >>> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of > >>> Rahu > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! > >>> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or > >>> only do > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>> > >>> humble regards, > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but > >>> through his > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was > >>> not > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out > >>> clearly > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect > >>> advise... > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > >>> > remedial measure? > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>> > > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > > > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>> > > namaste ! > >>> > > > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also > >>> being > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually > >>> came > >>> came > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >>> associates > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >>> briefcase , > >>> in > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >>> > > > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >>> advised to > >>> worn > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , > >>> merc > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory > >>> behind > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website > >>> where > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of > >>> houses > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>> > > > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but > >>> actual > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>> > > > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon > >>> rasi and > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >>> concerend ? > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , > >>> somehow > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he > >>> should > >>> have > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>> > > > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again > >>> emerald. > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee > >>> bought > >>> > > it up !! > >>> > > > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- ------------ > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Ok, you say yuti also, Zoran says Parivartana only so, what is the Upadesa from Parampara, here? If yuti also why Neelam would be bad for my example - it gives effects of 9L and gem based on 9L is best. Maybe to avoid ninth bhava confussion lets go to Meena Lagna Surya and Moon yuti - so we should perscribe Ruby right? Or if Moti how Coral could be good for Narasimha? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you presented you will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the ninth house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with ninth lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya. That was related to the example you presented. Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by Guruji reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the strength of Parampara. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which is 9L so getting out of durbhagya. How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you perscribe 6L gem? Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. " How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? Or I have missed something? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising here. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com ahimsavm skrev: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > Yes. > > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise > > then he would not have cancer. > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > Still the advise is the same. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> Dear Visti > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead > >> of diamond? > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >> 12:20 pm > >> calcutta > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >> > >> -Regards > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> /* > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> */ > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/* wrote: > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal > >> charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >> > >> WOW! > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>/* wrote: > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> divisonal charts ? > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I > >> have learned and have to share. > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not literally > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ meaning a > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- rya > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ For the > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by most, > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be regarded > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la (Sapphire) /we must > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, whilst > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >> > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the rare > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- raka > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as /gunatmaka/, > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >> further below. > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Finger > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga (topaz) > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> Translation > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> Mukta > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Vidruma > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Marakata > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> Vajra > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Indrani-la > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> Rahu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gomeda > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >> teacher. > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >> native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> Gold ring > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and > >> should not be worn. > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of > >> Yoga. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, but > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet > >> are still applied when timing events. > >> > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or 5^th > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> Guna > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> Satva > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajas > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> Tamas > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if for > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha lording > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and will > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone should > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > >>> dear visti, > >>> namaste. > >>> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of > >>> Rahu > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! > >>> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or > >>> only do > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>> > >>> humble regards, > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but > >>> through his > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was > >>> not > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out > >>> clearly > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect > >>> advise... > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > >>> > remedial measure? > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>> > > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > > > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>> > > namaste ! > >>> > > > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also > >>> being > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually > >>> came > >>> came > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >>> associates > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >>> briefcase , > >>> in > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >>> > > > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >>> advised to > >>> worn > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , > >>> merc > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory > >>> behind > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website > >>> where > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of > >>> houses > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>> > > > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but > >>> actual > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>> > > > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon > >>> rasi and > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >>> concerend ? > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , > >>> somehow > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he > >>> should > >>> have > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>> > > > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again > >>> emerald. > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee > >>> bought > >>> > > it up !! > >>> > > > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- ------------ > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This was further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which is > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you > perscribe 6L gem? > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > PARIVARTANA. " > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > Or I have missed something? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > rising here. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >> Dear Rafal, > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > >> Best wishes > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >> www.siva-edu.info > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > >> > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > > >> > Yes. > >> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam > >> to > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >> > ----------------------------- > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > >> > rafal@ > >> > > >> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > >> otherwise > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in > >> this > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life > >> and > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> > > ---------- > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > >> > > @: visti@ > >> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >> > >> > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > >> liver > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In > >> his > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj > >> instead > >> > >> of diamond? > >> > >> > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >> > >> > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >> > >> calcutta > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >> > >> > >> > >> -Regards > >> > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> > >> > >> /* > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> > >> */ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> divisonal > >> > >> charts ? > >> > >> > >> <%40> > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >> > >> > >> > >> WOW! > >> > >> > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry > >> Christmas > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >> > >> > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >> com>/* wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > >> I > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > >> time > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >> > >> > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > >> the > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >> making a > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > >> one. > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > >> there > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > >> body, > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > >> literally > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > >> meaning a > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >> > >> > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >> (diamond), > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > >> rya > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > >> For the > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > >> most, > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > >> state > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > >> regarded > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > >> as > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > >> whilst > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > >> learned > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > >> which > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > >> the > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > >> Mars, > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > >> rules over > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > >> rare > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > >> raka > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > >> gemstones. > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > >> is > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > >> judge > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > >> fame, > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > >> gemstones we > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > >> and is > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >> > >> further below. > >> > >> > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > >> Vedic > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > >> represent > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > >> index > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > >> The > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Finger > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > >> the > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >> characteristics > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > >> (topaz) > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > >> cancer > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > >> natural > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > >> gemstones and > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Translation > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mukta > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Vidruma > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Marakata > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Vajra > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Indrani-la > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Rahu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gomeda > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > >> advice and > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >> > >> teacher. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > >> house > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > >> and > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > >> lord > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > >> hands > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > >> gemstone > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > >> best > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >> > >> > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > >> such > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gold ring > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >> respectively and > >> > >> should not be worn. > >> > >> > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > >> account of > >> > >> Yoga. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >> > >> > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > >> goals > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > >> respectively. > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > >> other > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > >> Therefore, > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >> > >> > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > >> three of > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > >> depends on > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > >> adjacent > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > >> Sun > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > >> Navamsha, > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > >> and > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > >> effects of > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > >> but > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >> > >> > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > >> will > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > >> of > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > >> results, > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > >> whilst > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > >> apply > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >> > >> > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > >> only > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > >> graha, yet > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >> lords > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > >> causing > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > >> given the > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > >> sixth > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > >> the > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > >> The > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > >> as: > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > >> 5^th > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > >> graha in > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > >> the > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > >> tenth > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > >> if > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > >> house > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > >> this is > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Guna > >> > >> > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Satva > >> > >> > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajas > >> > >> > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Tamas > >> > >> > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > >> Varachakra. > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > >> unlock > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > >> caused > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > >> fourth > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > >> cancer. > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > >> along > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > >> system > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > >> issue > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > >> bijas. > >> > >> > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > >> of > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > >> for > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > >> will > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > >> application > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > >> locked > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > >> if Moon > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > >> Moon > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > >> in this > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >> > >> > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > >> lording > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > >> will > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > >> the > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > >> partner > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > >> also > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > >> should > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > >> and > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >> intelligently. > >> > >> > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >> > >> > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >> > >> > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >> > >>> > >> > >>> dear visti, > >> > >>> namaste. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > >> advent of > >> > >>> Rahu > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > >> answered .. is > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > >> real > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > >> exchange !! > >> > >>> > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > >> conjunction > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > >> or > >> > >>> only do > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >> > >>> > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > >> what does > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > >> same , then > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >> > >>> > >> > >>> humble regards, > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > >> but > >> > >>> through his > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >> untouched. It was > >> > >>> not > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > >> out > >> > >>> clearly > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > >> perfect > >> > >>> advise... > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > >> many can > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > >> following a > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > >> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > >> and also > >> > >>> being > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > >> eventually > >> > >>> came > >> > >>> came > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >> > >>> associates > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >> > >>> briefcase , > >> > >>> in > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >> > >>> advised to > >> > >>> worn > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > >> House , > >> > >>> merc > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > >> theory > >> > >>> behind > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > >> your website > >> > >>> where > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > >> exhange of > >> > >>> houses > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >> Dasas's ... but > >> > >>> actual > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > >> Rasi / > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > >> based upon > >> > >>> rasi and > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >> > >>> concerend ? > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > >> case , > >> > >>> somehow > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > >> that he > >> > >>> should > >> > >>> have > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > >> once again > >> > >>> emerald. > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > >> glad swee > >> > >>> bought > >> > >>> > > it up !! > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- > >> ------------ > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Visti, You are so correct. This is exactly what I thought. May the blessings of paramapara shower on you always... Best wishes Zoki , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you presented you > will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the ninth > house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with ninth > lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya. That was > related to the example you presented. > Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by Guruji > reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the strength of > Parampara. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > Rafal Gendarz skrev: > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, > > now Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha > > Shani will work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti > > graha which is 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > ----------------------------- > > Consultations and Pages: > > http://rohinaa.com > > rafal > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > >> How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give > >> durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > >> rising here. > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> ---------- > >> www: http://srigaruda.com > >> @: visti > >> > >> ahimsavm skrev: > >> > >>> Om Namah Shivaya, > >>> Dear Rafal, > >>> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > >>> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have > >>> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe > >>> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that > >>> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >>> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani > >>> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good > >>> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > >>> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > >>> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. > >>> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > >>> Best wishes > >>> Zoran Radosavljevic > >>> www.siva-edu.info > >>> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > >>> > >>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > >>> <starsuponme@> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >>> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >>> > > >>> > Yes. > >>> > > >>> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam > >>> to > >>> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >>> > > >>> > Regards, > >>> > Rafal Gendarz > >>> > ----------------------------- > >>> > Consultations and Pages: > >>> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > >>> > rafal@ > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >>> > > > >>> > > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >>> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > >>> otherwise > >>> > > then he would not have cancer. > >>> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in > >>> this > >>> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life > >>> and > >>> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >>> > > Still the advise is the same. > >>> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > > ---------- > >>> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > >>> > > @: visti@ > >>> > > > >>> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >>> > > > >>> > >> Dear Visti > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > >>> liver > >>> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In > >>> his > >>> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj > >>> instead > >>> > >> of diamond? > >>> > >> > >>> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >>> > >> 12:20 pm > >>> > >> calcutta > >>> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> -Regards > >>> > >> Rajarshi > >>> > >> > >>> > >> /* > >>> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >>> > >> */ > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > >>> wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > >>> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>> divisonal > >>> > >> charts ? > >>> > >> > >>> <%40> > >>> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >>> > >> > >>> > >> WOW! > >>> > >> > >>> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry > >>> Christmas > >>> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Warm Regards, > >>> > >> Maja Strbac > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >>> com>/* wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >>> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >>> > >> divisonal charts ? > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >>> > >> > >>> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >>> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >>> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >>> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > >>> I > >>> > >> have learned and have to share. > >>> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > >>> time > >>> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >>> > >> > >>> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >>> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > >>> the > >>> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >>> making a > >>> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > >>> one. > >>> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > >>> there > >>> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > >>> body, > >>> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >>> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > >>> literally > >>> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >>> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > >>> meaning a > >>> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >>> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >>> (diamond), > >>> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >>> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > >>> rya > >>> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > >>> For the > >>> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >>> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > >>> most, > >>> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > >>> state > >>> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > >>> regarded > >>> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >>> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >>> (Sapphire) /we must > >>> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > >>> as > >>> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > >>> whilst > >>> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >>> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >>> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > >>> learned > >>> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > >>> which > >>> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >>> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > >>> the > >>> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > >>> Mars, > >>> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > >>> rules over > >>> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >>> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > >>> rare > >>> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > >>> raka > >>> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >>> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > >>> gemstones. > >>> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > >>> is > >>> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > >>> judge > >>> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >>> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > >>> fame, > >>> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >>> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >>> as /gunatmaka/, > >>> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >>> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > >>> gemstones we > >>> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > >>> and is > >>> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >>> > >> further below. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > >>> Vedic > >>> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > >>> represent > >>> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >>> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > >>> index > >>> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > >>> The > >>> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ratna > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Finger > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ruby > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Pearl > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Coral > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Emerald > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Diamond > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Hessonite > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Cats eye > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > >>> the > >>> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >>> characteristics > >>> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >>> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > >>> (topaz) > >>> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > >>> cancer > >>> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > >>> natural > >>> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > >>> gemstones and > >>> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Graha > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ratna > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Translation > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Sun > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Padmara-ga > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ruby > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Moon > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mukta > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Pearl > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mars > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Vidruma > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Coral > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mercury > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Marakata > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Emerald > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Jupiter > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Pushpara-ga > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Yellow Topaz > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Venus > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Vajra > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Diamond > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Saturn > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Indrani-la > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Blue Sapphire > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Rahu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Gomeda > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Hessonite > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ketu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Vaidu-rya > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Cats eye > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > >>> advice and > >>> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >>> > >> teacher. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > >>> house > >>> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > >>> and > >>> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > >>> lord > >>> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > >>> hands > >>> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >>> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > >>> gemstone > >>> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >>> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > >>> best > >>> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > >>> such > >>> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Graha in 9^th > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Gemstone advised > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Saturn > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Rähu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ketu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Gold ring > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mars > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Pearl > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >>> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >>> respectively and > >>> > >> should not be worn. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > >>> account of > >>> > >> Yoga. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >>> > >> > >>> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > >>> goals > >>> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >>> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >>> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > >>> respectively. > >>> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > >>> other > >>> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > >>> Therefore, > >>> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >>> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > >>> three of > >>> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > >>> depends on > >>> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > >>> adjacent > >>> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > >>> Sun > >>> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >>> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >>> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > >>> Navamsha, > >>> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > >>> and > >>> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > >>> effects of > >>> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > >>> but > >>> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >>> > >> > >>> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > >>> will > >>> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > >>> of > >>> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >>> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > >>> results, > >>> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > >>> whilst > >>> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > >>> apply > >>> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >>> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > >>> only > >>> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > >>> graha, yet > >>> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Va-rachakra > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >>> > >> > >>> > >> # > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Graha > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 1 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Sun > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 2 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Moon > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 3 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mars > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 4 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mercury > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 5 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Jupiter > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 6 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Venus > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 7 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Saturn > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 8 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Rähu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 9 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ketu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >>> lords > >>> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >>> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > >>> causing > >>> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >>> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > >>> given the > >>> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > >>> sixth > >>> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > >>> the > >>> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > >>> The > >>> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > >>> as: > >>> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > >>> 5^th > >>> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > >>> graha in > >>> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > >>> the > >>> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > >>> tenth > >>> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >>> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > >>> if > >>> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > >>> house > >>> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > >>> this is > >>> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Gunachakra > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >>> > >> > >>> > >> # > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Graha > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Guna > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 1 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Sun > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Satva > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 2 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Moon > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 3 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Jupiter > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 4 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Rähu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 5 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mercury > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Rajas > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 6 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Venus > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 7 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Ketu > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 8 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Saturn > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Tamas > >>> > >> > >>> > >> 9 > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Mars > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > >>> Varachakra. > >>> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > >>> unlock > >>> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >>> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > >>> caused > >>> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >>> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > >>> fourth > >>> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > >>> cancer. > >>> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > >>> along > >>> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > >>> system > >>> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > >>> issue > >>> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > >>> bijas. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > >>> of > >>> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > >>> for > >>> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > >>> will > >>> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > >>> application > >>> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > >>> locked > >>> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > >>> if Moon > >>> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >>> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > >>> Moon > >>> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >>> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > >>> in this > >>> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >>> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >>> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > >>> lording > >>> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > >>> will > >>> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >>> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > >>> the > >>> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >>> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > >>> partner > >>> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > >>> also > >>> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >>> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > >>> should > >>> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > >>> and > >>> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >>> intelligently. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >>> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >>> > >> > >>> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> dear visti, > >>> > >>> namaste. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > >>> advent of > >>> > >>> Rahu > >>> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > >>> answered .. is > >>> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > >>> real > >>> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > >>> exchange !! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > >>> conjunction > >>> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > >>> or > >>> > >>> only do > >>> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > >>> what does > >>> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > >>> same , then > >>> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> humble regards, > >>> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >>> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >>> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >>> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > >>> but > >>> > >>> through his > >>> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >>> untouched. It was > >>> > >>> not > >>> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > >>> out > >>> > >>> clearly > >>> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > >>> perfect > >>> > >>> advise... > >>> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > >>> many can > >>> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > >>> following a > >>> > >>> > remedial measure? > >>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > >>> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >>> > >>> > @: visti@ > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >>> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >>> > >>> > > namaste ! > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > >>> and also > >>> > >>> being > >>> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > >>> eventually > >>> > >>> came > >>> > >>> came > >>> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >>> > >>> associates > >>> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >>> > >>> briefcase , > >>> > >>> in > >>> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >>> > >>> advised to > >>> > >>> worn > >>> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > >>> House , > >>> > >>> merc > >>> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > >>> theory > >>> > >>> behind > >>> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > >>> your website > >>> > >>> where > >>> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > >>> exhange of > >>> > >>> houses > >>> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >>> Dasas's ... but > >>> > >>> actual > >>> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > >>> Rasi / > >>> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > >>> based upon > >>> > >>> rasi and > >>> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >>> > >>> concerend ? > >>> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > >>> case , > >>> > >>> somehow > >>> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > >>> that he > >>> > >>> should > >>> > >>> have > >>> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > >>> once again > >>> > >>> emerald. > >>> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > >>> glad swee > >>> > >>> bought > >>> > >>> > > it up !! > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >>> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> ------------------------- > >>> ------------ > >>> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Zoranji , Namaskar Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does that clarify? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. June 28, 1921 Time: 12:49:00 Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight lord, so the question is the same : a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti we perscribe Ruby or b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal ahimsavm pisze: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This was further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which is > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you > perscribe 6L gem? > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY in > PARIVARTANA. " > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > Or I have missed something? > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > rising here. > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > ---------- > > www: http://srigaruda.com > > @: visti > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > >> Dear Rafal, > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck. > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > >> Best wishes > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > >> www.siva-edu.info > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > >> > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > >> > > >> > Yes. > >> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam > >> to > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Rafal Gendarz > >> > ----------------------------- > >> > Consultations and Pages: > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > >> > rafal@ > >> > > >> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > >> > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > >> otherwise > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in > >> this > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life > >> and > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> > > ---------- > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > >> > > @: visti@ > >> > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. > >> > >> > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > >> liver > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In > >> his > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj > >> instead > >> > >> of diamond? > >> > >> > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. > >> > >> > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > >> > >> 12:20 pm > >> > >> calcutta > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > >> > >> > >> > >> -Regards > >> > >> Rajarshi > >> > >> > >> > >> /* > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > >> > >> */ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> divisonal > >> > >> charts ? > >> > >> > >> <%40> > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > >> > >> > >> > >> WOW! > >> > >> > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > >> Christmas > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > >> > >> > >> > >> Warm Regards, > >> > >> Maja Strbac > >> > >> > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > >> com>/* wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > >> > >> > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > >> I > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > >> time > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > >> > >> > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > >> the > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > >> making a > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > >> one. > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > >> there > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > >> body, > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > >> literally > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > >> meaning a > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > >> > >> > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > >> (diamond), > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > >> rya > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > >> For the > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > >> most, > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > >> state > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > >> regarded > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > >> (Sapphire) /we must > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > >> as > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > >> whilst > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > >> learned > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > >> which > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > >> the > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > >> Mars, > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > >> rules over > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > >> rare > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > >> raka > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > >> gemstones. > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > >> is > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > >> judge > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > >> fame, > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > >> as /gunatmaka/, > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > >> gemstones we > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > >> and is > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained > >> > >> further below. > >> > >> > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > >> Vedic > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > >> represent > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > >> index > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > >> The > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Finger > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > >> > >> > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > >> the > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > >> characteristics > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > >> (topaz) > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > >> cancer > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > >> natural > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > >> gemstones and > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Translation > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Padmara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mukta > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Vidruma > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Coral > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Marakata > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Emerald > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Vajra > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Diamond > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Indrani-la > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > >> > >> > >> > >> Rahu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gomeda > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hessonite > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Cats eye > >> > >> > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > >> advice and > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my > >> > >> teacher. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > >> house > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > >> and > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > >> lord > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > >> hands > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > >> gemstone > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > >> best > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > >> > >> > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > >> such > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstone advised > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gold ring > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Pearl > >> > >> > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > >> respectively and > >> > >> should not be worn. > >> > >> > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > >> account of > >> > >> Yoga. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > >> > >> > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > >> goals > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > >> respectively. > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > >> other > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > >> Therefore, > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > >> > >> > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > >> three of > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > >> depends on > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > >> adjacent > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > >> Sun > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > >> Navamsha, > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > >> and > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > >> effects of > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > >> but > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > >> > >> > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > >> will > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > >> of > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > >> results, > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > >> whilst > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > >> apply > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > >> > >> > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > >> only > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > >> graha, yet > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Va-rachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > >> lords > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > >> causing > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > >> given the > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > >> sixth > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > >> the > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > >> The > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > >> as: > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > >> 5^th > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > >> graha in > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > >> the > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > >> tenth > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > >> if > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > >> house > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. > >> > >> > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > >> this is > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > >> > >> > >> > >> # > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Graha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Guna > >> > >> > >> > >> 1 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sun > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Satva > >> > >> > >> > >> 2 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Moon > >> > >> > >> > >> 3 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Jupiter > >> > >> > >> > >> 4 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rähu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 5 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mercury > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajas > >> > >> > >> > >> 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Venus > >> > >> > >> > >> 7 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ketu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 8 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Saturn > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Tamas > >> > >> > >> > >> 9 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mars > >> > >> > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > >> Varachakra. > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > >> unlock > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > >> caused > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > >> fourth > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > >> cancer. > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > >> along > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > >> system > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > >> issue > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > >> bijas. > >> > >> > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > >> of > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > >> for > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > >> will > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > >> application > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > >> locked > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > >> if Moon > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > >> Moon > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > >> in this > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > >> > >> > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > >> lording > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > >> will > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > >> the > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > >> partner > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > >> also > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > >> should > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > >> and > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > >> intelligently. > >> > >> > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > >> > >> > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > >> > >> > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > >> > >>> > >> > >>> dear visti, > >> > >>> namaste. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > >> advent of > >> > >>> Rahu > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > >> answered .. is > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > >> real > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > >> exchange !! > >> > >>> > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > >> conjunction > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > >> or > >> > >>> only do > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > >> > >>> > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > >> what does > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > >> same , then > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > >> > >>> > >> > >>> humble regards, > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > >> but > >> > >>> through his > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > >> untouched. It was > >> > >>> not > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > >> out > >> > >>> clearly > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > >> perfect > >> > >>> advise... > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > >> many can > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > >> following a > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > >> <http://srigaruda.com/>> > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > >> and also > >> > >>> being > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > >> eventually > >> > >>> came > >> > >>> came > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and > >> > >>> associates > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > >> > >>> briefcase , > >> > >>> in > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > >> > >>> advised to > >> > >>> worn > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > >> House , > >> > >>> merc > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > >> theory > >> > >>> behind > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > >> your website > >> > >>> where > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > >> exhange of > >> > >>> houses > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > >> Dasas's ... but > >> > >>> actual > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > >> Rasi / > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > >> based upon > >> > >>> rasi and > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > >> > >>> concerend ? > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > >> case , > >> > >>> somehow > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > >> that he > >> > >>> should > >> > >>> have > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > >> once again > >> > >>> emerald. > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > >> glad swee > >> > >>> bought > >> > >>> > > it up !! > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------- > >> ------------ > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Rafal, I am very surprised to see that you got the impression that I was trying to make you a fool, which is apsurd of course. Example chart of Pt. Narasimha Rao was many times discussed by Sanjaji in lectures, and one of the main points in this chart and the choice of the stone where conjunction was considered is Veepreta Raja Yoga with power transfer, where Mars played a crucial role being in digbala stana. I beleive that the whole explanation can be found in the file section with SJC lectures. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevic www.siva-edu.info www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com THe example with , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 " > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu.info > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ---------- > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu.info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ----------------------------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ---------- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ---------------------- --- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , rahu / shani placed in 9th or aspecting 9th house , makes it imperative to wear a yellow sapphire ! but what is to be done , when Jupiter itself is not well placed from AL ... lets says placed in 3rd from AL (MKS) ? I have this conditoon , but i wore the yellow sapphire with the jeeva nyasa , seems to be working fine ... just curious , what would you have done ? humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > The way to remedy Rahu in ninth is through Yellow Sapphire, and if no > other graha are placed there then this is the primary remedy. Planets > yuti the lord of the ninth can also cause problems, i.e. Rahu yuti ninth > lord also causes durbhagya and requires the same remedy. Thus if one can > find a combined remedy for both Rahu and Saturn it would be most > suitable. Still the Pushparaga is the primary remedy. I do know of one > such situation where the native wore a Yellow Heliodore to remedy this > problem of Shani-Rahu dosha on the ninth. > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > chandan486 skrev: > > > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear visti , > > namaste ... > > > > First of all , thanks a lot for sharing all the invalueable info. but > > after reading this , a simple question again pops up!! > > > > 1.If a person has mesha lagna and rahu is placed in 9th house , > > normally a Yellow sapphire would be advised , as you mentioned in the > > article .. > > > > but what if jupiter is conj sat ? then also would a yellow sapphire > > be advised ? or based on conj , a blue sapphire would now be choice ? > > and no unlock rahu in 9th house , a different gemstone based on > > varachakra would be used ? > > > > pls help clear thus understanding , > > > > humble regards, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 " > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu.info > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ---------- > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu.info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ----------------------------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ---------- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ----------------------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu.info > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ---------- > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu.info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ----------------------------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ---------- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <%40> > > > >> <%40> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ----------------------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar "Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kāma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery)". Now we know the interchange is based on: a. naisargika beneficiency b. temporal beneficiency c. avastha How to combine these three when more than 2 planets are in sign? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rā meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarāga (ruby), pushparāga (topaz), indranīla (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidūrya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. Pushparāga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparāga can be regarded as equal to the indranīla (sapphire) or padmarāga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranīla (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparāga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranīla the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. Ratnakāraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and Rāhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst Rāhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kāraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kāma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparāga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun Padmarāga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter Pushparāga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn Indranīla Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu Vaidūrya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kāma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kāma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. Vārachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nīcha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the Somanātha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a māraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1851 - Release 2008-12-16 08:53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Chandan, NamaskarSo far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharmais not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal maleficand it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandhaand placement from AL. So Coral is worst.More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here?ORwe accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comchandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya||Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,Namaste.I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral.1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged.This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha.Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha ...The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.I think i made a pretty neat assemement.Comments Please !!humble regards,Chandan S Sabarwal., Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was:> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.> > June 28, 1921> Time: 12:49:00> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same :> > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby> > or> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > ahimsavm pisze:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Rafal,> > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed,> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full> > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.> > Best wishes> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. info> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> > >> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti> > or> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for> > yuti, now> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with> > Shani> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani> > will> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha> > which is> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> > >> > >> > >> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can> > you> > > perscribe 6L gem?> > >> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY> > in> > > PARIVARTANA. "> > >> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?> > >> > > Or I have missed something?> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > ------------ --------- --------> > > Consultations and Pages:> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > >> > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would> > give> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is> > > > rising here.> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > @: visti@> > > >> > > > ahimsavm skrev:> > > >> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you> > have> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never> > prescribe> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In> > that> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the> > Shani> > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in> > good> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad> > luck.> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.> > > >> Best wishes> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> > > >> www.siva-edu. info> > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ >> > > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> > > >> >> > > >> > Yes.> > > >> >> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe> > Neelam> > > >> to> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards,> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > >> > rafal@> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done> > > >> otherwise> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by> > Jupiter in> > > >> this> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past> > life> > > >> and> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > >> > > @: visti@> > > >> > >> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Dear Visti> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful> > mail.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with> > > >> liver> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live.> > In> > > >> his> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a> > pokhraj> > > >> instead> > > >> > >> of diamond?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be> > great..> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> > > >> > >> calcutta> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> -Regards> > > >> > >> Rajarshi> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> /*> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*> > > >> > >> */> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> > > >> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > >> divisonal> > > >> > >> charts ?> > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> WOW!> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry> > > >> Christmas> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what> > > >> I> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with> > > >> time> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect> > > >> the> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be> > > >> making a> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right> > > >> one.> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,> > > >> there> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the> > > >> body,> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not> > > >> literally> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/> > > >> meaning a> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of> > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra> > > >> (diamond),> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-> > > >> rya> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). /> > > >> For the> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by> > > >> most,> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does> > > >> state> > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be> > > >> regarded> > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded> > > >> as> > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,> > > >> whilst> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the> > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be> > > >> learned> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna> > > >> which> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for> > > >> the> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon,> > > >> Mars,> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon> > > >> rules over> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the> > raw> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the> > > >> rare> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-> > > >> raka> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of> > > >> gemstones.> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this> > > >> is> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to> > > >> judge> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional> > chart> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant> > > >> fame,> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other> > > >> gemstones we> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes> > > >> and is> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be> > explained> > > >> > >> further below.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from> > > >> Vedic> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers> > > >> represent> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index,> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the> > > >> index> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara.> > > >> The> > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Finger> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Coral> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Emerald> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Diamond> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for> > > >> the> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)> > > >> characteristics> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be> > a> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga> > > >> (topaz)> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having> > > >> cancer> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These> > > >> natural> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the> > > >> gemstones and> > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Translation> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mukta> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vidruma> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Coral> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Marakata> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Emerald> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vajra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Diamond> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Indrani-la> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rahu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gomeda> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any> > > >> advice and> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from> > my> > > >> > >> teacher.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth> > > >> house> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones> > > >> and> > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first> > > >> lord> > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the> > > >> hands> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence> > the> > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the> > > >> gemstone> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the> > > >> best> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in> > > >> such> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rähu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gold ring> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss> > > >> respectively and> > > >> > >> should not be worn.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on> > > >> account of> > > >> > >> Yoga.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or> > > >> goals> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs> > > >> respectively.> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the> > > >> other> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.> > > >> Therefore,> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on> > > >> three of> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana> > > >> depends on> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs> > > >> adjacent> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then> > > >> Sun> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun> > be> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy> > > >> Navamsha,> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign> > > >> and> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the> > > >> effects of> > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well,> > > >> but> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects> > > >> will> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications> > > >> of> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then> > the> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange> > > >> results,> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results> > > >> whilst> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly> > > >> apply> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they> > > >> only> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a> > > >> graha, yet> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> #> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 1> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 2> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 3> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 4> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 5> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 6> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 7> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 8> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rähu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 9> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth> > > >> lords> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is> > > >> causing> > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its> > positive> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have> > > >> given the> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the> > > >> sixth> > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario> > > >> the> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles.> > > >> The> > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained> > > >> as:> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or> > > >> 5^th> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third> > > >> graha in> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays> > > >> the> > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the> > > >> tenth> > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly> > > >> if> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth> > > >> house> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be> > hampered.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and> > > >> this is> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gunachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> #> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Guna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 1> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Satva> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 2> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 3> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 4> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rähu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 5> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rajas> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 6> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 7> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 8> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Tamas> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 9> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the> > > >> Varachakra.> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or> > > >> unlock> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are> > > >> caused> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the> > > >> fourth> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of> > > >> cancer.> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised> > > >> along> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous> > > >> system> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this> > > >> issue> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya> > > >> bijas.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect> > > >> of> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if> > > >> for> > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native> > > >> will> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong> > > >> application> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as> > > >> locked> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly> > > >> if Moon> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the> > > >> Moon> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra> > > >> in this> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented> > with> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it> > is> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha> > > >> lording> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and> > > >> will> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore> > not> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is> > > >> the> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the> > > >> partner> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably> > > >> also> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone> > > >> should> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best> > > >> and> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice> > > >> intelligently.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> dear visti,> > > >> > >>> namaste.> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the> > > >> advent of> > > >> > >>> Rahu> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent> > > >> answered .. is> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it> > > >> real> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone> > > >> exchange !!> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that> > > >> conjunction> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ?> > > >> or> > > >> > >>> only do> > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then> > > >> what does> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the> > > >> same , then> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> humble regards,> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time,> > > >> but> > > >> > >>> through his> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was> > > >> untouched. It was> > > >> > >>> not> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing> > > >> out> > > >> > >>> clearly> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was> > > >> perfect> > > >> > >>> advise...> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How> > > >> many can> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once> > > >> following a> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>>> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail> > > >> and also> > > >> > >>> being> > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that> > > >> eventually> > > >> > >>> came> > > >> > >>> came> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members> > and> > > >> > >>> associates> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,> > > >> > >>> in> > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being> > > >> > >>> advised to> > > >> > >>> worn> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th> > > >> House ,> > > >> > >>> merc> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic> > > >> theory> > > >> > >>> behind> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on> > > >> your website> > > >> > >>> where> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual> > > >> exhange of> > > >> > >>> houses> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in> > > >> Dasas's ... but> > > >> > >>> actual> > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon> > > >> Rasi /> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just> > > >> based upon> > > >> > >>> rasi and> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is> > > >> > >>> concerend ?> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's> > > >> case ,> > > >> > >>> somehow> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald> > > >> that he> > > >> > >>> should> > > >> > >>> have> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so> > > >> once again> > > >> > >>> emerald.> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out ,> > > >> glad swee> > > >> > >>> bought> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,> > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----------> > > >> ------------> > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| dear rafal, namaste. Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*. So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones purely based on yuti. Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood. Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !! trust me , personal experience is the best ! so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect ! thoughts please! humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it > comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or > not, after all dharma > is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, > social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. > > When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention > Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is > definitely temporal malefic > and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only > parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral > is quite unfortunate decision. > > Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by > Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So > its badly placed by lordship, sambandha > and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > > More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 > (Sn). > > What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal > gives here? > > OR > > we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena > Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > > Namaste. > > > > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you > > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart > > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be > > correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > > > > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen > > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , > > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to > > it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and > > Pisces - Moksha. > > > > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it > > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - > > Moksha .. > > > > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is > > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader > > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already > > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to > > obstruct. > > > > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is > > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. > > > > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. > > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it > > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best > > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > > > > I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > > > > Comments Please !! > > > > humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > > > > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the > > answer was: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. > > Does > > > that clarify? > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > > > > > June 28, 1921 > > > Time: 12:49:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 " > > > > > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and > > eight > > > lord, so the question is the same : > > > > > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya > > yuti > > > we perscribe Ruby > > > > > > or > > > > > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it > > and > > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > > reversed, > > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute > > the > > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the > > change > > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > > recommended > > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This > > was > > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > www.siva-edu.info > > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on > > yuti > > > > or > > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > > > yuti, now > > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > > > Shani > > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha > > Shani > > > > will > > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > > > which is > > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How > > can > > > > you > > > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done > > ONLY > > > > in > > > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > > > give > > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki > > is > > > > > > rising here. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, > > this > > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > > > have > > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > > > prescribe > > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. > > In > > > > that > > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > > > Shani > > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be > > in > > > > good > > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal > > and > > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > > > luck. > > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the > > chart. > > > > > >> Best wishes > > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > > >> www.siva-edu.info > > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > >> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Yes. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > > > Neelam > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Regards, > > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > >> > ----------------------------- > > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>> > > > > > >> > rafal@ > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > > > >> otherwise > > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > > > Jupiter in > > > > > >> this > > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from > > past > > > > life > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > > ---------- > > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> <http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > > > mail. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected > > with > > > > > >> liver > > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to > > live. > > > > In > > > > > >> his > > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > > > pokhraj > > > > > >> instead > > > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > > > great.. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> /* > > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva > > Sutra* > > > > > >> > >> */ > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > > > >> divisonal > > > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > > > >> > >> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > >> <%40> > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry > > > > > >> Christmas > > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " . > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > > > >> I > > > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > > > >> time > > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > > > >> making a > > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > > > >> one. > > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > > > >> there > > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > > > >> body, > > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > > > >> literally > > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > > > >> meaning a > > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > > > >> (diamond), > > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani- la > > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > > > >> rya > > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > > > > > >> For the > > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > > > >> most, > > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > > > >> state > > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > > > >> regarded > > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara- ga > > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > > > >> as > > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani- la/ the > > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > > > >> learned > > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a > > ratna > > > > > >> which > > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has > > no > > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is > > for > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. > > Moon, > > > > > >> Mars, > > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > > > >> rules over > > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > > > raw > > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over > > the > > > > > >> rare > > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna > > ka- > > > > > >> raka > > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > > Somanatha > > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > > > >> gemstones. > > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and > > this > > > > > >> is > > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt > > to > > > > > >> judge > > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > > > chart > > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can > > grant > > > > > >> fame, > > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. > > Hence to > > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > > > >> gemstones we > > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > > > >> and is > > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > > > explained > > > > > >> > >> further below. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood > > from > > > > > >> Vedic > > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > > > >> represent > > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the > > index, > > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on > > the > > > > > >> index > > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing > > ahamkara. > > > > > >> The > > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Finger > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good > > for > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > > > >> characteristics > > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to > > be > > > > a > > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > > > >> (topaz) > > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > > > >> cancer > > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. > > These > > > > > >> natural > > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > > > >> gemstones and > > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Translation > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > > > >> advice and > > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered > > from > > > > my > > > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and > > ninth > > > > > >> house > > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best > > gemstones > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The > > first > > > > > >> lord > > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects > > the > > > > > >> hands > > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > > > the > > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > > > >> gemstone > > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the > > most > > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > > > >> best > > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, > > and in > > > > > >> such > > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords > > are > > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > > > >> respectively and > > > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > > > >> account of > > > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four > > ayana or > > > > > >> goals > > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and > > moksha > > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada > > of a > > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > > > >> respectively. > > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then > > the > > > > > >> other > > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > > > >> Therefore, > > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord > > the > > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > > > >> three of > > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > > > >> depends on > > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > > > >> adjacent > > > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus > > then > > > > > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should > > Sun > > > > be > > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give > > the > > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > > > >> Navamsha, > > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery > > sign > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > > > >> effects of > > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as > > well, > > > > > >> but > > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of > > effects > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > > indications > > > > > >> of > > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > > > the > > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > > > >> results, > > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. > > Similarly > > > > > >> apply > > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > > Parivartana > > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as > > they > > > > > >> only > > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > > > >> graha, yet > > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or > > twelfth > > > > > >> lords > > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > > excessive > > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha > > is > > > > > >> causing > > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > > > positive > > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > > > >> given the > > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in > > the > > > > > >> sixth > > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific > > scenario > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal > > battles. > > > > > >> The > > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > > explained > > > > > >> as: > > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , > > 1^st or > > > > > >> 5^th > > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > > > >> graha in > > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of > > weekdays > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in > > the > > > > > >> tenth > > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the > > house > > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > > Similarly > > > > > >> if > > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the > > fifth > > > > > >> house > > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > > > hampered. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > > > >> this is > > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Guna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Satva > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > > > >> Varachakra. > > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > > > >> unlock > > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > > > >> caused > > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > > > >> fourth > > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > > > >> cancer. > > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > > > >> along > > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > > > >> system > > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block > > this > > > > > >> issue > > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > > Mrtyunjaya > > > > > >> bijas. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one > > aspect > > > > > >> of > > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. > > if > > > > > >> for > > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the > > native > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > > > >> application > > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed > > as > > > > > >> locked > > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > > Similarly > > > > > >> if Moon > > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a > > Blue > > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from > > the > > > > > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > > Gunachakra > > > > > >> in this > > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > > > with > > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart > > it > > > > is > > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein > > graha > > > > > >> lording > > > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body > > and > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > > > not > > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this > > is > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to > > the > > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > > > >> partner > > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > > preferably > > > > > >> also > > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase > > the > > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > > > >> should > > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the > > best > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > > > >> intelligently. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > > > >> advent of > > > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > > > >> answered .. is > > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or > > is it > > > > > >> real > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > > > >> exchange !! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > > > >> conjunction > > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > > completely ? > > > > > >> or > > > > > >> > >>> only do > > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > > > >> what does > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > > > >> same , then > > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail > > time, > > > > > >> but > > > > > >> > >>> through his > > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > > > >> untouched. It was > > > > > >> > >>> not > > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence > > pointing > > > > > >> out > > > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa > > was > > > > > >> perfect > > > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! > > How > > > > > >> many can > > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > > > >> following a > > > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > > > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > > > >> and also > > > > > >> > >>> being > > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > > > >> eventually > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > > > and > > > > > >> > >>> associates > > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed > > the > > > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > > > >> > >>> in > > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is > > being > > > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > > > >> > >>> worn > > > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in > > 10th > > > > > >> House , > > > > > >> > >>> merc > > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the > > basic > > > > > >> theory > > > > > >> > >>> behind > > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > > > >> your website > > > > > >> > >>> where > > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > > > >> exhange of > > > > > >> > >>> houses > > > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > > > >> > >>> actual > > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based > > upon > > > > > >> Rasi / > > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > > > >> based upon > > > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career > > is > > > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > > Narasimha's > > > > > >> case , > > > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > > > >> that he > > > > > >> > >>> should > > > > > >> > >>> have > > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , > > so > > > > > >> once again > > > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with > > out , > > > > > >> glad swee > > > > > >> > >>> bought > > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> ------------------- ---- > > -- > > > > > >> ------------ > > > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar Regarding the explanation I am not questioning the validity of knowledge given here. I will repeat again: Why the worst gem based on principles given was given to Narasimha Rao and that is considered good? I get few answers which were contradicting themselves after other mails and then my request to make it clear was called request for 'repeating myself' and the topic was suddenly changed to eulogizing each others belief in Parampara, now where my question is clear and asked again there is silence. I will repeat: a) as I understood only parivartana has the power to make the choice to reverse the gem, not yuti b) we should not give the gem which is in 2H in D2 (Kn) c) we should not give the gem which is the temoral malefic for the lagna, especially if its enemy of the subha yoga in the chart Mars is naisargik and tatkalik enemy of Shuba-Bhadra-Karma-Dasama-Budha, its 3L and 8L, sitting in 2H in D3(Sn) lording 8L in D2! I still dont know which rule I have ommited that conquers all the negatives about this choice. Once the answer was that its due to yuti but then after while the prinicple was its only for parivartana. Do we have clear answer to my simple querry? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear rafal, namaste. Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*. So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones purely based on yuti. Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood. Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !! trust me , personal experience is the best ! so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect ! thoughts please! humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it > comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or > not, after all dharma > is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, > social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. > > When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention > Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is > definitely temporal malefic > and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only > parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral > is quite unfortunate decision. > > Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by > Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So > its badly placed by lordship, sambandha > and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > > More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 > (Sn). > > What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal > gives here? > > OR > > we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena > Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > > Namaste. > > > > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you > > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart > > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be > > correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > > > > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen > > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , > > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to > > it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and > > Pisces - Moksha. > > > > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it > > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - > > Moksha .. > > > > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is > > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader > > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already > > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to > > obstruct. > > > > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is > > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. > > > > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ... > > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it > > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best > > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > > > > I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > > > > Comments Please !! > > > > humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > > > > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the > > answer was: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. > > Does > > > that clarify? > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > > > > > June 28, 1921 > > > Time: 12:49:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > > > > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and > > eight > > > lord, so the question is the same : > > > > > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya > > yuti > > > we perscribe Ruby > > > > > > or > > > > > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it > > and > > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > > reversed, > > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute > > the > > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the > > change > > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > > recommended > > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This > > was > > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > www.siva-edu.info > > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on > > yuti > > > > or > > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > > > yuti, now > > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > > > Shani > > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha > > Shani > > > > will > > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > > > which is > > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How > > can > > > > you > > > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done > > ONLY > > > > in > > > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > > > give > > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki > > is > > > > > > rising here. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, > > this > > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > > > have > > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > > > prescribe > > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. > > In > > > > that > > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > > > Shani > > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be > > in > > > > good > > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal > > and > > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > > > luck. > > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the > > chart. > > > > > >> Best wishes > > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > > >> www.siva-edu.info > > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > >> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Yes. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > > > Neelam > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Regards, > > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > >> > ----------------------------- > > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>> > > > > > >> > rafal@ > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > > > >> otherwise > > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > > > Jupiter in > > > > > >> this > > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from > > past > > > > life > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > > ---------- > > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> <http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > > > mail. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected > > with > > > > > >> liver > > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to > > live. > > > > In > > > > > >> his > > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > > > pokhraj > > > > > >> instead > > > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > > > great.. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> /* > > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva > > Sutra* > > > > > >> > >> */ > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > > > >> divisonal > > > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > > > >> > >> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > >> <%40> > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > > > >> Christmas > > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > > > >> > >> @ . com > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > > > >> I > > > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > > > >> time > > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > > > >> making a > > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > > > >> one. > > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > > > >> there > > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > > > >> body, > > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > > > >> literally > > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > > > >> meaning a > > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > > > >> (diamond), > > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani- la > > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > > > >> rya > > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > > > > > >> For the > > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > > > >> most, > > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > > > >> state > > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > > > >> regarded > > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara- ga > > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > > > >> as > > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani- la/ the > > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > > > >> learned > > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a > > ratna > > > > > >> which > > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has > > no > > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is > > for > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. > > Moon, > > > > > >> Mars, > > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > > > >> rules over > > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > > > raw > > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over > > the > > > > > >> rare > > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna > > ka- > > > > > >> raka > > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > > Somanatha > > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > > > >> gemstones. > > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and > > this > > > > > >> is > > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt > > to > > > > > >> judge > > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > > > chart > > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can > > grant > > > > > >> fame, > > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. > > Hence to > > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > > > >> gemstones we > > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > > > >> and is > > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > > > explained > > > > > >> > >> further below. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood > > from > > > > > >> Vedic > > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > > > >> represent > > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the > > index, > > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on > > the > > > > > >> index > > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing > > ahamkara. > > > > > >> The > > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Finger > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good > > for > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > > > >> characteristics > > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to > > be > > > > a > > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > > > >> (topaz) > > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > > > >> cancer > > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. > > These > > > > > >> natural > > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > > > >> gemstones and > > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Translation > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > > > >> advice and > > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered > > from > > > > my > > > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and > > ninth > > > > > >> house > > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best > > gemstones > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The > > first > > > > > >> lord > > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects > > the > > > > > >> hands > > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > > > the > > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > > > >> gemstone > > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the > > most > > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > > > >> best > > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, > > and in > > > > > >> such > > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords > > are > > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > > > >> respectively and > > > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > > > >> account of > > > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four > > ayana or > > > > > >> goals > > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and > > moksha > > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada > > of a > > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > > > >> respectively. > > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then > > the > > > > > >> other > > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > > > >> Therefore, > > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord > > the > > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > > > >> three of > > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > > > >> depends on > > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > > > >> adjacent > > > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus > > then > > > > > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should > > Sun > > > > be > > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give > > the > > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > > > >> Navamsha, > > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery > > sign > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > > > >> effects of > > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as > > well, > > > > > >> but > > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of > > effects > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > > indications > > > > > >> of > > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > > > the > > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > > > >> results, > > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. > > Similarly > > > > > >> apply > > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > > Parivartana > > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as > > they > > > > > >> only > > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > > > >> graha, yet > > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or > > twelfth > > > > > >> lords > > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > > excessive > > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha > > is > > > > > >> causing > > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > > > positive > > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > > > >> given the > > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in > > the > > > > > >> sixth > > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific > > scenario > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal > > battles. > > > > > >> The > > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > > explained > > > > > >> as: > > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , > > 1^st or > > > > > >> 5^th > > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > > > >> graha in > > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of > > weekdays > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in > > the > > > > > >> tenth > > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the > > house > > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > > Similarly > > > > > >> if > > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the > > fifth > > > > > >> house > > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > > > hampered. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > > > >> this is > > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Guna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Satva > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > > > >> Varachakra. > > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > > > >> unlock > > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > > > >> caused > > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > > > >> fourth > > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > > > >> cancer. > > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > > > >> along > > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > > > >> system > > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block > > this > > > > > >> issue > > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > > Mrtyunjaya > > > > > >> bijas. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one > > aspect > > > > > >> of > > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. > > if > > > > > >> for > > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the > > native > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > > > >> application > > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed > > as > > > > > >> locked > > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > > Similarly > > > > > >> if Moon > > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a > > Blue > > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from > > the > > > > > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > > Gunachakra > > > > > >> in this > > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > > > with > > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart > > it > > > > is > > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein > > graha > > > > > >> lording > > > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body > > and > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > > > not > > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this > > is > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to > > the > > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > > > >> partner > > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > > preferably > > > > > >> also > > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase > > the > > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > > > >> should > > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the > > best > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > > > >> intelligently. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > > > >> advent of > > > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > > > >> answered .. is > > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or > > is it > > > > > >> real > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > > > >> exchange !! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > > > >> conjunction > > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > > completely ? > > > > > >> or > > > > > >> > >>> only do > > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > > > >> what does > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > > > >> same , then > > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> --- In > > > > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail > > time, > > > > > >> but > > > > > >> > >>> through his > > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > > > >> untouched. It was > > > > > >> > >>> not > > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence > > pointing > > > > > >> out > > > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa > > was > > > > > >> perfect > > > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! > > How > > > > > >> many can > > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > > > >> following a > > > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > > > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > > > >> and also > > > > > >> > >>> being > > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > > > >> eventually > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > > > and > > > > > >> > >>> associates > > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed > > the > > > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > > > >> > >>> in > > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is > > being > > > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > > > >> > >>> worn > > > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in > > 10th > > > > > >> House , > > > > > >> > >>> merc > > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the > > basic > > > > > >> theory > > > > > >> > >>> behind > > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > > > >> your website > > > > > >> > >>> where > > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > > > >> exhange of > > > > > >> > >>> houses > > > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > > > >> > >>> actual > > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based > > upon > > > > > >> Rasi / > > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > > > >> based upon > > > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career > > is > > > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > > Narasimha's > > > > > >> case , > > > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > > > >> that he > > > > > >> > >>> should > > > > > >> > >>> have > > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , > > so > > > > > >> once again > > > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with > > out , > > > > > >> glad swee > > > > > >> > >>> bought > > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> ------------------- ---- > > -- > > > > > >> ------------ > > > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Typo: Correct version: We should not give gem which karaka of sits in 2H in D3(Sn). Rafal Gendarz chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear rafal, namaste. Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*. So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones purely based on yuti. Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood. Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !! trust me , personal experience is the best ! so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect ! thoughts please! humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Chandan, Namaskar > > So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it > comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or > not, after all dharma > is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, > social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. > > When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention > Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is > definitely temporal malefic > and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only > parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral > is quite unfortunate decision. > > Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by > Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So > its badly placed by lordship, sambandha > and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. > > More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 > (Sn). > > What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal > gives here? > > OR > > we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena > Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ----------------------------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa.com > rafal > > > > > > chandan486 pisze: > > > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, > > Namaste. > > > > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you > > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. > > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart > > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be > > correct about the advise for a Red Coral. > > > > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen > > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. > > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , > > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to > > it , those ayanas will get exchanged. > > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and > > Pisces - Moksha. > > > > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it > > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - > > Moksha .. > > > > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is > > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader > > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . > > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. > > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already > > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to > > obstruct. > > > > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is > > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. > > > > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ... > > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it > > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best > > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. > > > > I think i made a pretty neat assemement. > > > > Comments Please !! > > > > humble regards, > > Chandan S Sabarwal. > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > > > > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the > > answer was: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. > > Does > > > that clarify? > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > > > > > June 28, 1921 > > > Time: 12:49:00 > > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > > > > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and > > eight > > > lord, so the question is the same : > > > > > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya > > yuti > > > we perscribe Ruby > > > > > > or > > > > > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it > > and > > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ----------------------------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are > > reversed, > > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute > > the > > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the > > change > > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji > > recommended > > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This > > was > > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > www.siva-edu.info > > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on > > yuti > > > > or > > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > > > yuti, now > > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > > > Shani > > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha > > Shani > > > > will > > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > > > which is > > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How > > can > > > > you > > > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done > > ONLY > > > > in > > > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > > > give > > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki > > is > > > > > > rising here. > > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, > > this > > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > > > have > > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > > > prescribe > > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. > > In > > > > that > > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > > > Shani > > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be > > in > > > > good > > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal > > and > > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > > > luck. > > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the > > chart. > > > > > >> Best wishes > > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > > > >> www.siva-edu.info > > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com > > > > > >> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Yes. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > > > Neelam > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Regards, > > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > >> > ----------------------------- > > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com > > <http://rohinaa.com>> > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>> > > > > > >> > rafal@ > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > > > >> otherwise > > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > > > Jupiter in > > > > > >> this > > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from > > past > > > > life > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > > ---------- > > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com> <http://srigaruda.com > > <http://srigaruda.com>>> > > > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > > > mail. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected > > with > > > > > >> liver > > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to > > live. > > > > In > > > > > >> his > > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > > > pokhraj > > > > > >> instead > > > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > > > great.. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> /* > > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva > > Sutra* > > > > > >> > >> */ > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S > > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/* > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > > > >> divisonal > > > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > > > >> > >> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > >> <%40> > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > > > >> Christmas > > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > > > >> > >> @ . com > > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > > > >> I > > > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > > > >> time > > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > > > >> making a > > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > > > >> one. > > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > > > >> there > > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > > > >> body, > > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > > > >> literally > > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > > > >> meaning a > > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > > > >> (diamond), > > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani- la > > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > > > >> rya > > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./ > > > > > >> For the > > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > > > >> most, > > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > > > >> state > > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > > > >> regarded > > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara- ga > > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > > > >> as > > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani- la/ the > > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > > > >> learned > > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a > > ratna > > > > > >> which > > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has > > no > > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is > > for > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. > > Moon, > > > > > >> Mars, > > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > > > >> rules over > > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > > > raw > > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over > > the > > > > > >> rare > > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna > > ka- > > > > > >> raka > > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and > > Somanatha > > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > > > >> gemstones. > > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and > > this > > > > > >> is > > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt > > to > > > > > >> judge > > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > > > chart > > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can > > grant > > > > > >> fame, > > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. > > Hence to > > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > > > >> gemstones we > > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > > > >> and is > > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > > > explained > > > > > >> > >> further below. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood > > from > > > > > >> Vedic > > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > > > >> represent > > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the > > index, > > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on > > the > > > > > >> index > > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing > > ahamkara. > > > > > >> The > > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Finger > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good > > for > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > > > >> characteristics > > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to > > be > > > > a > > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > > > >> (topaz) > > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > > > >> cancer > > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. > > These > > > > > >> natural > > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > > > >> gemstones and > > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Translation > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Coral > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > > > >> advice and > > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered > > from > > > > my > > > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and > > ninth > > > > > >> house > > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best > > gemstones > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The > > first > > > > > >> lord > > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects > > the > > > > > >> hands > > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > > > the > > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > > > >> gemstone > > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the > > most > > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > > > >> best > > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, > > and in > > > > > >> such > > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords > > are > > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > > > >> respectively and > > > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > > > >> account of > > > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four > > ayana or > > > > > >> goals > > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and > > moksha > > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada > > of a > > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > > > >> respectively. > > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then > > the > > > > > >> other > > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > > > >> Therefore, > > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord > > the > > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > > > >> three of > > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > > > >> depends on > > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > > > >> adjacent > > > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus > > then > > > > > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should > > Sun > > > > be > > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give > > the > > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > > > >> Navamsha, > > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery > > sign > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > > > >> effects of > > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as > > well, > > > > > >> but > > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of > > effects > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic > > indications > > > > > >> of > > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > > > the > > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > > > >> results, > > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > > > >> whilst > > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. > > Similarly > > > > > >> apply > > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and > > Parivartana > > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as > > they > > > > > >> only > > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > > > >> graha, yet > > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or > > twelfth > > > > > >> lords > > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing > > excessive > > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha > > is > > > > > >> causing > > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > > > positive > > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > > > >> given the > > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in > > the > > > > > >> sixth > > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific > > scenario > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal > > battles. > > > > > >> The > > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further > > explained > > > > > >> as: > > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , > > 1^st or > > > > > >> 5^th > > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > > > >> graha in > > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of > > weekdays > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in > > the > > > > > >> tenth > > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the > > house > > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. > > Similarly > > > > > >> if > > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the > > fifth > > > > > >> house > > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > > > hampered. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > > > >> this is > > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> # > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Graha > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Guna > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 1 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sun > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Satva > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 2 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 3 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 4 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 5 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 6 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Venus > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 7 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 8 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> 9 > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Mars > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > > > >> Varachakra. > > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > > > >> unlock > > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > > > >> caused > > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > > > >> fourth > > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > > > >> cancer. > > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > > > >> along > > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > > > >> system > > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block > > this > > > > > >> issue > > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the > > Mrtyunjaya > > > > > >> bijas. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one > > aspect > > > > > >> of > > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. > > if > > > > > >> for > > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the > > native > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > > > >> application > > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed > > as > > > > > >> locked > > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. > > Similarly > > > > > >> if Moon > > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a > > Blue > > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from > > the > > > > > >> Moon > > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the > > Gunachakra > > > > > >> in this > > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > > > with > > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart > > it > > > > is > > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein > > graha > > > > > >> lording > > > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body > > and > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > > > not > > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this > > is > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to > > the > > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > > > >> partner > > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should > > preferably > > > > > >> also > > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase > > the > > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > > > >> should > > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the > > best > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > > > >> intelligently. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > > > >> advent of > > > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > > > >> answered .. is > > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or > > is it > > > > > >> real > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > > > >> exchange !! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > > > >> conjunction > > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other > > completely ? > > > > > >> or > > > > > >> > >>> only do > > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > > > >> what does > > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > > > >> same , then > > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> --- In > > > > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail > > time, > > > > > >> but > > > > > >> > >>> through his > > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > > > >> untouched. It was > > > > > >> > >>> not > > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence > > pointing > > > > > >> out > > > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa > > was > > > > > >> perfect > > > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! > > How > > > > > >> many can > > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > > > >> following a > > > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/ > > <http://srigaruda.com/> > > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>> > > > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/> > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>> > > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > > > >> and also > > > > > >> > >>> being > > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > > > >> eventually > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > >> > >>> came > > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > > > and > > > > > >> > >>> associates > > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed > > the > > > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > > > >> > >>> in > > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is > > being > > > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > > > >> > >>> worn > > > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in > > 10th > > > > > >> House , > > > > > >> > >>> merc > > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the > > basic > > > > > >> theory > > > > > >> > >>> behind > > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > > > >> your website > > > > > >> > >>> where > > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > > > >> exhange of > > > > > >> > >>> houses > > > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > > > >> > >>> actual > > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based > > upon > > > > > >> Rasi / > > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > > > >> based upon > > > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career > > is > > > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in > > Narasimha's > > > > > >> case , > > > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > > > >> that he > > > > > >> > >>> should > > > > > >> > >>> have > > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , > > so > > > > > >> once again > > > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with > > out , > > > > > >> glad swee > > > > > >> > >>> bought > > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> ------------------- ---- > > -- > > > > > >> ------------ > > > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Chandan, Namaste At the end... are you wearing a Ruby? Or was it a Yellow Sapphire? Both? Maybe you could put Diamond again... why not, the more the merrier. Besides, it is Yoga Karaka for your D10. So your idea is to be an... Experimental pet to yourself and try all the gemstones one by one for the purposes of gaining some personal experience, right? Okie... You know, it would be nice to learn what there is about Gemstones first. (Oops, you are trying to suggest some personal experience in Jyotish to a Jyotish Guru? At least try checking the archive of this list and then think again was this suggestion necessary. I am not surprised to read something like that in an email written by someone who has Guru as AK. You probably imagine yourself as competent to advice him better than his own Guruji Visti Larsen, right? I see some contradiction in your writing. You wrote a whole neat novel (congratulations on patience) on exchange of effects for Grahas in Yuti (3/4 of Ayana), and then you are bringing up that wearing Ruby was perfect for you (which is contradiction to your emails from last week when Yellow sapphire was perfect for you from your "personal experience") as it gives results of 5th bhava... how come when it is giving 3/4 of Ayana for Sukra as you learned, which is Maraka for your chart, though there is a good side that Sukra is giving neecha banga to Surya in your chart. Do let me write your birth data again, a whole chart is a whole picture: 01st November 1982 17:44:39 PM (rectified by native) 88 E 22; 22 N 34 Time zone 05:30 hours East of GMT We have already determined that you have nothing against your Pravraja Yoga. So if you decide next week to wear a Yellow Sapphire as a "perfect choice" for you, do notice that this will give 3/4 of Ayana of Sani. Your idea was to solve Sani and Rahu Graha dristi on 9th bhava. What are we going to do with Grahas placed in 9th? Is Dristi stronger than this? Of course, all this makes sense if you have rectified your own chart correctly. Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Thu, 12/18/08, chandan486 <wavelogix wrote: chandan486 <wavelogix[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 9:56 PM ||aum namah shivaya||dear rafal,namaste.Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*.So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones purely based on yuti.Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood.Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !!trust me , personal experience is the best !so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect !thoughts please!humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Chandan, Namaskar> > So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it > comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or > not, after all dharma> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, > social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.> > When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention > Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is > definitely temporal malefic> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only > parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral > is quite unfortunate decision.> > Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by > Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So > its badly placed by lordship, sambandha> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.> > More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 > (Sn).> > What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal > gives here?> > OR> > we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena > Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > > > > chandan486 pisze:> >> > ||aum namah shivaya||> >> > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,> > Namaste.> >> > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you> > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.> > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart> > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be> > correct about the advise for a Red Coral.> >> > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen> > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.> > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,> > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to> > it , those ayanas will get exchanged.> > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and> > Pisces - Moksha.> >> > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it> > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -> > Moksha ..> >> > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is> > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader> > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .> > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.> > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already> > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to> > obstruct.> >> > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is> > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.> >> > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..> > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it> > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best> > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.> >> > I think i made a pretty neat assemement.> >> > Comments Please !!> >> > humble regards,> > Chandan S Sabarwal.> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> > >> > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the> > answer was:> > >> > >> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones.> > Does> > > that clarify?> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > >> > >> > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.> > >> > > June 28, 1921> > > Time: 12:49:00> > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> > >> > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and> > eight> > > lord, so the question is the same :> > >> > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya> > yuti> > > we perscribe Ruby> > >> > > or> > >> > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?> > >> > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it> > and> > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > ------------ --------- --------> > > Consultations and Pages:> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > ------------ --------- --------> > > Consultations and Pages:> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@> > >> > >> > > ahimsavm pisze:> > > >> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very> > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are> > reversed,> > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute> > the> > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their> > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,> > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full> > > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the> > change> > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and> > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.> > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji> > recommended> > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This> > was> > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.> > > > Best wishes> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > > > www.siva-edu. info> > > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > >> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> > > > >> > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on> > yuti> > > > or> > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for> > > > yuti, now> > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with> > > > Shani> > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha> > Shani> > > > will> > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha> > > > which is> > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How> > can> > > > you> > > > > perscribe 6L gem?> > > > >> > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done> > ONLY> > > > in> > > > > PARIVARTANA. "> > > > >> > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?> > > > >> > > > > Or I have missed something?> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > ------------ --------- --------> > > > > Consultations and Pages:> > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > > > rafal@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > > > >> > > > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would> > > > give> > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki> > is> > > > > > rising here.> > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > > > @: visti@> > > > > >> > > > > > ahimsavm skrev:> > > > > >> > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However,> > this> > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you> > > > have> > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never> > > > prescribe> > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house.> > In> > > > that> > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.> > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the> > > > Shani> > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be> > in> > > > good> > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti> > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal> > and> > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad> > > > luck.> > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the> > chart.> > > > > >> Best wishes> > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> > > > > >> www.siva-edu. info> > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > <starsuponme@ >> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Yes.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe> > > > Neelam> > > > > >> to> > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Regards,> > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> > > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>>>> > > > > >> > rafal@> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done> > > > > >> otherwise> > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by> > > > Jupiter in> > > > > >> this> > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from> > past> > > > life> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> <http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda. com>>>> > > > > >> > > @: visti@> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful> > > > mail.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected> > with> > > > > >> liver> > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to> > live.> > > > In> > > > > >> his> > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a> > > > pokhraj> > > > > >> instead> > > > > >> > >> of diamond?> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be> > > > great..> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> > > > > >> > >> calcutta> > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> -Regards> > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> /*> > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva> > Sutra*> > > > > >> > >> */> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S> > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > > > >> divisonal> > > > > >> > >> charts ?> > > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> WOW!> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry> > > > > >> Christmas> > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > > > >> com>/* wrote:> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> > > > > >> > >> @ . com> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I> > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what> > > > > >> I> > > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with> > > > > >> time> > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the> > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be> > > > > >> making a> > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right> > > > > >> one.> > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,> > > > > >> there> > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the> > > > > >> body,> > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not> > > > > >> literally> > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,> > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/> > > > > >> meaning a> > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of> > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra> > > > > >> (diamond),> > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la> > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-> > > > > >> rya> > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). /> > > > > >> For the> > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic> > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by> > > > > >> most,> > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does> > > > > >> state> > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be> > > > > >> regarded> > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga> > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la> > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded> > > > > >> as> > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,> > > > > >> whilst> > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the> > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the> > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be> > > > > >> learned> > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a> > ratna> > > > > >> which> > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has> > no> > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is> > for> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.> > Moon,> > > > > >> Mars,> > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon> > > > > >> rules over> > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the> > > > raw> > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over> > the> > > > > >> rare> > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna> > ka-> > > > > >> raka> > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and> > Somanatha> > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of> > > > > >> gemstones.> > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and> > this> > > > > >> is> > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt> > to> > > > > >> judge> > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional> > > > chart> > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can> > grant> > > > > >> fame,> > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones> > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known> > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes.> > Hence to> > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other> > > > > >> gemstones we> > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes> > > > > >> and is> > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be> > > > explained> > > > > >> > >> further below.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood> > from> > > > > >> Vedic> > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers> > > > > >> represent> > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the> > index,> > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on> > the> > > > > >> index> > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing> > ahamkara.> > > > > >> The> > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Finger> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ruby> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Coral> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Emerald> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Diamond> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good> > for> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)> > > > > >> characteristics> > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to> > be> > > > a> > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga> > > > > >> (topaz)> > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having> > > > > >> cancer> > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.> > These> > > > > >> natural> > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the> > > > > >> gemstones and> > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Translation> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ruby> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mukta> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Vidruma> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Coral> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Marakata> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Emerald> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Vajra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Diamond> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Rahu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gomeda> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any> > > > > >> advice and> > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered> > from> > > > my> > > > > >> > >> teacher.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and> > ninth> > > > > >> house> > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best> > gemstones> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The> > first> > > > > >> lord> > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects> > the> > > > > >> hands> > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence> > > > the> > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the> > > > > >> gemstone> > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the> > most> > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the> > > > > >> best> > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune,> > and in> > > > > >> such> > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Rähu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gold ring> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords> > are> > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss> > > > > >> respectively and> > > > > >> > >> should not be worn.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on> > > > > >> account of> > > > > >> > >> Yoga.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four> > ayana or> > > > > >> goals> > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and> > moksha> > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada> > of a> > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs> > > > > >> respectively.> > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then> > the> > > > > >> other> > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.> > > > > >> Therefore,> > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord> > the> > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on> > > > > >> three of> > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana> > > > > >> depends on> > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs> > > > > >> adjacent> > > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus> > then> > > > > >> Sun> > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should> > Sun> > > > be> > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give> > the> > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy> > > > > >> Navamsha,> > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery> > sign> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the> > > > > >> effects of> > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as> > well,> > > > > >> but> > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of> > effects> > > > > >> will> > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic> > indications> > > > > >> of> > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then> > > > the> > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange> > > > > >> results,> > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results> > > > > >> whilst> > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.> > Similarly> > > > > >> apply> > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and> > Parivartana> > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as> > they> > > > > >> only> > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a> > > > > >> graha, yet> > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> #> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 1> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 2> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 3> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 4> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 5> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 6> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 7> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 8> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Rähu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 9> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or> > twelfth> > > > > >> lords> > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing> > excessive> > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha> > is> > > > > >> causing> > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its> > > > positive> > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have> > > > > >> given the> > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in> > the> > > > > >> sixth> > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific> > scenario> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal> > battles.> > > > > >> The> > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further> > explained> > > > > >> as:> > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,> > 1^st or> > > > > >> 5^th> > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third> > > > > >> graha in> > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of> > weekdays> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in> > the> > > > > >> tenth> > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the> > house> > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.> > Similarly> > > > > >> if> > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the> > fifth> > > > > >> house> > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be> > > > hampered.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and> > > > > >> this is> > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> #> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Guna> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 1> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Satva> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 2> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 3> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 4> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Rähu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 5> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Rajas> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 6> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 7> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 8> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Tamas> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 9> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the> > > > > >> Varachakra.> > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or> > > > > >> unlock> > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the> > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are> > > > > >> caused> > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is> > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the> > > > > >> fourth> > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of> > > > > >> cancer.> > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised> > > > > >> along> > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous> > > > > >> system> > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block> > this> > > > > >> issue> > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the> > Mrtyunjaya> > > > > >> bijas.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one> > aspect> > > > > >> of> > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e.> > if> > > > > >> for> > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the> > native> > > > > >> will> > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong> > > > > >> application> > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed> > as> > > > > >> locked> > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.> > Similarly> > > > > >> if Moon> > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a> > Blue> > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from> > the> > > > > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.> > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the> > Gunachakra> > > > > >> in this> > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented> > > > with> > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart> > it> > > > is> > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein> > graha> > > > > >> lording> > > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body> > and> > > > > >> will> > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore> > > > not> > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this> > is> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to> > the> > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the> > > > > >> partner> > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should> > preferably> > > > > >> also> > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase> > the> > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone> > > > > >> should> > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the> > best> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice> > > > > >> intelligently.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com> > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> dear visti,> > > > > >> > >>> namaste.> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the> > > > > >> advent of> > > > > >> > >>> Rahu> > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent> > > > > >> answered .. is> > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or> > is it> > > > > >> real> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone> > > > > >> exchange !!> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that> > > > > >> conjunction> > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other> > completely ?> > > > > >> or> > > > > >> > >>> only do> > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then> > > > > >> what does> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the> > > > > >> same , then> > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> humble regards,> > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail> > time,> > > > > >> but> > > > > >> > >>> through his> > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was> > > > > >> untouched. It was> > > > > >> > >>> not> > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence> > pointing> > > > > >> out> > > > > >> > >>> clearly> > > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa> > was> > > > > >> perfect> > > > > >> > >>> advise...> > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it!> > How> > > > > >> many can> > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once> > > > > >> following a> > > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail> > > > > >> and also> > > > > >> > >>> being> > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that> > > > > >> eventually> > > > > >> > >>> came> > > > > >> > >>> came> > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members> > > > and> > > > > >> > >>> associates> > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed> > the> > > > > >> > >>> briefcase ,> > > > > >> > >>> in> > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is> > being> > > > > >> > >>> advised to> > > > > >> > >>> worn> > > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in> > 10th> > > > > >> House ,> > > > > >> > >>> merc> > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the> > basic> > > > > >> theory> > > > > >> > >>> behind> > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on> > > > > >> your website> > > > > >> > >>> where> > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual> > > > > >> exhange of> > > > > >> > >>> houses> > > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in> > > > > >> Dasas's ... but> > > > > >> > >>> actual> > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based> > upon> > > > > >> Rasi /> > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just> > > > > >> based upon> > > > > >> > >>> rasi and> > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career> > is> > > > > >> > >>> concerend ?> > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in> > Narasimha's> > > > > >> case ,> > > > > >> > >>> somehow> > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald> > > > > >> that he> > > > > >> > >>> should> > > > > >> > >>> have> > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun ,> > so> > > > > >> once again> > > > > >> > >>> emerald.> > > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with> > out ,> > > > > >> glad swee> > > > > >> > >>> bought> > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !!> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,> > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------> > --> > > > > >> ------------> > > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined two malefics by lordships and natural significance. So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first and tenth will also benefit longevity. Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all looked to Narasimha as a leader. It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in the tenth. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. One addition. Make sure you never advise the gemstone of the sixth lord if you want the persons mantra to be strong. Just don't advise it even if well placed and well conjoined. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji , Namaskar 1. For VRA in Kendra planets must be strong. Gemini Rasi is similar to Cancer Rasi for Mangal avastha. 2. If 8L is weak then enemy is weak and it gives rajayoga, strenghting the Lagnesh should be the case as Sanjayji did in VRA example (see my previous case), not the 8L - enemy. You can say that there are exchanging the power due to yuti but its not the case with gems as Sanjayji example is indicating. 3. To strenghted the native in battle gems of Lagna lord is advised that is the rule of Sanjayji based on Saravali or Phaldeepika. No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. 4. If planet is afflicted or weak then the gem should make it stronger - its good yoga. Lagnesh in Tenth, so we should not strength the affliction but the native! No yuti rule for gems per your teachings. Mars is in 2H in D3 and in 1/7 axis from AL! Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. In the chart of Narasimha a Vipareet Rajayoga is occuring in the tenth house but is conjoined the lagna lord showing that when the Rajayoga happens he also may fall. Therefore his Bhadra yoga becomes useless and risks jailtime by strengthening it as it is conjoined two malefics by lordships and natural significance. So to strengthen his Bhadra Yoga and lessen the malificence of the VRY he was advised a Red Coral as Mercury and Mars are the most benefic and most malefic grahas respectively and will exchange results. Why not emerald? Because of Mercury's severe affliction and curse which would end up giving the results of the Vipareet yoga on himself. And it almost did as a bunch of lawsuits were launched on him. So finally its because they do exchange results, point is that this exchange of results would not be good if in a malefic house. I.e. imagine VRY in the eighth house. Here the principle is that the lordships of the most benefic grahas will sufer, so if Mercury, Mars and Sun were in the eighth house in this chart he personally would suffer a lot by wearing a Coral. So finally the house placement must also be good. Specifically first and tenth will also benefit longevity. Notably when VRY occurs in a Kendra house a friend falls. Lagnesh there threatens ones own fall also (hence the remedy). And so it happened in a bomb blast (Mars+Sun+Rahu) through which his colleague Rajiv Gandhi could not continue anymore in politics, and they all looked to Narasimha as a leader. It happened after his retirement because of Mars (also Varesha) in the tenth. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika. Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As the more mails the things are more complicated. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly. Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna, there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement. Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth, eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the health. Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be excellent and also increase longevity. If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the other grahas gemstone. So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a gemstone. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but still the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was good for Narasimha Rao as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous teachings and examples. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com rajarshi nandy pisze: Dear Rafal I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said: So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord? -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Chandan, Namaskar So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharma is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal malefic and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha and placement from AL. So Coral is worst. More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here? OR we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it. Regards, Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- -------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com chandan486 pisze: ||aum namah shivaya|| Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti, Namaste. I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details. Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral. 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged. Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged. This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha. Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha .. The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana . So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised. Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails. 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa. I think i made a pretty neat assemement. Comments Please !! humble regards, Chandan S Sabarwal. , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was: > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana. > > June 28, 1921 > Time: 12:49:00 > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same : > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby > > or > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao? > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > ------------ --------- -------- > Consultations and Pages: > http://rohinaa. com > rafal > > > ahimsavm pisze: > > > > Om Namah Shivaya, > > Dear Rafal, > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed, > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So, > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra. > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well. > > Best wishes > > Zoran Radosavljevic > > www.siva-edu. info > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar > > > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti > > or > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for > > yuti, now > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with > > Shani > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani > > will > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha > > which is > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya. > > > > > > > > > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can > > you > > > perscribe 6L gem? > > > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY > > in > > > PARIVARTANA. " > > > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao? > > > > > > Or I have missed something? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > ------------ --------- -------- > > > Consultations and Pages: > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > > > > > > ??? ??? ????? > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar. > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would > > give > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is > > > > rising here. > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > > > @: visti@ > > > > > > > > ahimsavm skrev: > > > > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya, > > > >> Dear Rafal, > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you > > have > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never > > prescribe > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In > > that > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health. > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the > > Shani > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in > > good > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad > > luck. > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart. > > > >> Best wishes > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic > > > >> www.siva-edu. info > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar > > > >> > > > > >> > Yes. > > > >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe > > Neelam > > > >> to > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz > > > >> > ------------ --------- -------- > > > >> > Consultations and Pages: > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > >> > rafal@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done > > > >> otherwise > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer. > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by > > Jupiter in > > > >> this > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past > > life > > > >> and > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same. > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > >> > > @: visti@ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev: > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful > > mail. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with > > > >> liver > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. > > In > > > >> his > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a > > pokhraj > > > >> instead > > > >> > >> of diamond? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be > > great.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977 > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm > > > >> > >> calcutta > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> -Regards > > > >> > >> Rajarshi > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> /* > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra* > > > >> > >> */ > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/* > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> divisonal > > > >> > >> charts ? > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> WOW! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry > > > >> Christmas > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance". > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Warm Regards, > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ? > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar. > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what > > > >> I > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share. > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with > > > >> time > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference): > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect > > > >> the > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be > > > >> making a > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right > > > >> one. > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, > > > >> there > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the > > > >> body, > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely. > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not > > > >> literally > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/ > > > >> meaning a > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra > > > >> (diamond), > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu- > > > >> rya > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). / > > > >> For the > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by > > > >> most, > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does > > > >> state > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be > > > >> regarded > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded > > > >> as > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence, > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be > > > >> learned > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna > > > >> which > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, > > > >> Mars, > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon > > > >> rules over > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the > > raw > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the > > > >> rare > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka- > > > >> raka > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of > > > >> gemstones. > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this > > > >> is > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to > > > >> judge > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional > > chart > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant > > > >> fame, > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known > > > >> as /gunatmaka/, > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other > > > >> gemstones we > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes > > > >> and is > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be > > explained > > > >> > >> further below. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from > > > >> Vedic > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers > > > >> represent > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index, > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the > > > >> index > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Finger > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for > > > >> the > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika) > > > >> characteristics > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be > > a > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga > > > >> (topaz) > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having > > > >> cancer > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These > > > >> natural > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the > > > >> gemstones and > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Translation > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mukta > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vidruma > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Coral > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Marakata > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Emerald > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vajra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Diamond > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Indrani-la > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rahu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gomeda > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hessonite > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Cats eye > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any > > > >> advice and > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from > > my > > > >> > >> teacher. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones > > > >> and > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first > > > >> lord > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the > > > >> hands > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence > > the > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the > > > >> gemstone > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the > > > >> best > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in > > > >> such > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gold ring > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Pearl > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss > > > >> respectively and > > > >> > >> should not be worn. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on > > > >> account of > > > >> > >> Yoga. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or > > > >> goals > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs > > > >> respectively. > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. > > > >> Therefore, > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on > > > >> three of > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana > > > >> depends on > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs > > > >> adjacent > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then > > > >> Sun > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun > > be > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy > > > >> Navamsha, > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign > > > >> and > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the > > > >> effects of > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well, > > > >> but > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery). > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications > > > >> of > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then > > the > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange > > > >> results, > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results > > > >> whilst > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly > > > >> apply > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they > > > >> only > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a > > > >> graha, yet > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth > > > >> lords > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is > > > >> causing > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its > > positive > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have > > > >> given the > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the > > > >> sixth > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario > > > >> the > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. > > > >> The > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained > > > >> as: > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or > > > >> 5^th > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third > > > >> graha in > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays > > > >> the > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the > > > >> tenth > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly > > > >> if > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth > > > >> house > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be > > hampered. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and > > > >> this is > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> # > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Graha > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Guna > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Sun > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Satva > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Moon > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Jupiter > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rähu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mercury > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Rajas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 6 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Venus > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 7 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Ketu > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 8 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Saturn > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tamas > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> 9 > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Mars > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the > > > >> Varachakra. > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or > > > >> unlock > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are > > > >> caused > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the > > > >> fourth > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of > > > >> cancer. > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised > > > >> along > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous > > > >> system > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this > > > >> issue > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya > > > >> bijas. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect > > > >> of > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if > > > >> for > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native > > > >> will > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong > > > >> application > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as > > > >> locked > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly > > > >> if Moon > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the > > > >> Moon > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra > > > >> in this > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented > > with > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it > > is > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha > > > >> lording > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and > > > >> will > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore > > not > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is > > > >> the > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the > > > >> partner > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably > > > >> also > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best > > > >> and > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice > > > >> intelligently. > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight. > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> dear visti, > > > >> > >>> namaste. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the > > > >> advent of > > > >> > >>> Rahu > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent > > > >> answered .. is > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it > > > >> real > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone > > > >> exchange !! > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that > > > >> conjunction > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> only do > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then > > > >> what does > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the > > > >> same , then > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> humble regards, > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> @ . com > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ????? > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, > > > >> but > > > >> > >>> through his > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was > > > >> untouched. It was > > > >> > >>> not > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing > > > >> out > > > >> > >>> clearly > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was > > > >> perfect > > > >> > >>> advise... > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How > > > >> many can > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once > > > >> following a > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure? > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/> > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@ > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti, > > > >> > >>> > > namaste ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail > > > >> and also > > > >> > >>> being > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that > > > >> eventually > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> came > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members > > and > > > >> > >>> associates > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the > > > >> > >>> briefcase , > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being > > > >> > >>> advised to > > > >> > >>> worn > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th > > > >> House , > > > >> > >>> merc > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic > > > >> theory > > > >> > >>> behind > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on > > > >> your website > > > >> > >>> where > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual > > > >> exhange of > > > >> > >>> houses > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj.... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in > > > >> Dasas's ... but > > > >> > >>> actual > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon > > > >> Rasi / > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa ! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just > > > >> based upon > > > >> > >>> rasi and > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is > > > >> > >>> concerend ? > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's > > > >> case , > > > >> > >>> somehow > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald > > > >> that he > > > >> > >>> should > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so > > > >> once again > > > >> > >>> emerald. > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , > > > >> glad swee > > > >> > >>> bought > > > >> > >>> > > it up !! > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours, > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- -- > > > >> ------------ > > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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